Mia Love: I probably would have voted for that lame budget deal

posted at 7:21 pm on December 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

A nice catch by the Right Scoop and a useful complement to yesterday’s post about Jim Matheson’s retirement. The budget deal by itself is too penny-ante to imperil her standing among grassroots righties, I think, but between this, her criticism of Mike Lee’s “defund” tactics, and the fact that she recently refused to call herself a tea partier for fear of being “labeled,” I wonder if she won’t end up with a contested primary after all. The litmus test may be the next debt-ceiling standoff: If she ends up supporting a small ask or quick compromise on that too, maybe some opportunistic Utah conservative will see an opening and jump in.

“But wait,” you say. “Why would a candidate running in a deep red state, which ushered in the tea-party era by replacing Bob Bennett with Mike Lee, take a more moderate line this time?” Two reasons. One: She’s running in a district that, while Republican on balance, was blue enough to send Matheson to Congress for seven terms. The further right she goes now, the greater the risk that she gets a credible Democratic challenger. She’d probably win anyway, but having lost to Matheson despite having Mitt Romney at the top of the ballot and a high national profile by House standards, she naturally figures she should take fewer chances this time. Two: I linked this Utah poll from October yesterday but go look at it now if you haven’t yet. Mike Lee’s approval rating took a hit back home during the shutdown, with 57 percent of Utahns saying they wanted him to compromise on a budget even if it meant funding ObamaCare. A poll of Utah “insiders” taken later the same month showed a majority skeptical that Lee would ever fully shed the baggage of the “defund” episode. The lesson Love’s taken from all that, presumably, is to avoid shutdowns at all costs, and to even avoid too close of an association with a tea-party movement that’s more willing to tolerate a shutdown in the name of its achieving its goals than, say, John McCain is.

This really is the smart play politically, though. Conservatives respect her, rightly so, for risking endless left-wing nastiness by embracing a party that black women especially aren’t supposed to belong to. She can afford to burn a little of that political capital in the name of better positioning herself for the general election. Besides, she knows the national party would love her to have this seat and will do what it can to help her. Why alienate them by dumping on Boehner/Ryan?



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Well thats a shame.

ctmom on December 18, 2013 at 7:24 PM

She’d probably win anyway, but having lost to Matheson despite having after having to carry the anchor around her neck known as Mitt Romney at the top of the ballot

FIFY.

Stoic Patriot on December 18, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Points to the first mouth-breather who starts grousing about “diversity hires” in the GOP.

KingGold on December 18, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Good Lord, Mia you just broke my heart. There’s really no point sending you to Congress if you’re probably going to keep sharting all over the budget like Boner and Progressive Ryan.

Western_Civ on December 18, 2013 at 7:25 PM

She’d probably win anyway, but having lost to Matheson despite having after having to carry the anchor around her neck known as Mitt Romney at the top of the ballot

FIFY.

Stoic Patriot on December 18, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Romney won the 4th Congressional District by 38 points. Mia Love lost it. I’m not sure your description applies in this case.

GOPRanknFile on December 18, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Another careerist. Swell.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Points to the first mouth-breather who starts grousing about “diversity hires” in the GOP.

KingGold on December 18, 2013 at 7:25 PM

You just won.

How many points do you get?

portlandon on December 18, 2013 at 7:33 PM

“However, does it go far enough to address our problems? Absolutely not.”

Hell, we went backward from where we were with CR/sequester in place.

Bitter Clinger on December 18, 2013 at 7:35 PM

This really is the smart play politically, though. Conservatives respect her, rightly so, for risking endless left-wing nastiness by embracing a party that black women especially aren’t supposed to belong to.

SO absolutely wrong. Sarah Palin gets a hundred times more business from the left and she’s WHITE.
Like Santa.

AllahsNippleHair on December 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Black Morman in Utah…… Yeah, a little positioning toward the center isn’t a bad thing at this point. Fact of the matter is most Republicans did vote for that crappy sell out by Paul Ryan so that illegals get “free money” and disabled vets are harmed. But nevermind that now- enough Senate Republicans agreed that disabled vets and their children don’t matter as much illegal aliens and their children. Makes you wonder why anybody would volunteer for military service.

Happy Nomad on December 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM

So now they’re not even waiting til they’re elected before selling out their principles(and BTW, I’m giving Mia Love the benefit of the doubt that she is a bonafide fiscal conservative)?

Doughboy on December 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM

This is how the party system works.

Smiles on December 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Makes you wonder why anybody would volunteer for military service.

Happy Nomad on December 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM

A major step down the path to no one believing the promises the government makes to the military … even when it’s by contract.

If the U.S. government won’t honor it’s contract with those who serve it should come as no surprise when no one wants to volunteer to work for them anymore.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2013 at 7:42 PM

She’d probably win anyway, but having lost to Matheson despite BECAUSE of having Mitt Romney at the top of the ballot

Fify.
Not much help with the base.
I hope they apologize and fight hard on amnesty and the debt ceiling or she will lose again.
That, and yapping establishment talking points.

AllahsNippleHair on December 18, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Mia Love: I probably would have voted for that lame budget deal

That’s it. She’s a RINO. If she’s elected, purge her.

rukiddingme on December 18, 2013 at 7:46 PM

I hate to say it, but I told you so..:)

idesign on December 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

I said yesterday we’ll see another Pigford settlement in the future if she’s elected. But I’m sure she’ll have much support from the people that carry the chip on their shoulders…

Mr. Arrogant on December 18, 2013 at 7:52 PM

I hate to say it, but I told you so..:)

idesign on December 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

You also told us lots of things that weren’t so :)

The ‘independent’ which was a leftist prop, lost it for her.

Meh on the RINO squishes…

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

…I just fell…out of Love!

KOOLAID2 on December 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

I hate to say it, but I told you so..:)

idesign on December 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

You did.

AllahsNippleHair on December 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Little tired of conservatives eating there own for failing some purity test. Politics means compromised when you have a split government. I don’t like it either but that’s the reality folks.

steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

You also told us lots of things that weren’t so :)

The ‘independent’ which was a leftist prop, lost it for her.

Meh on the RINO squishes…

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

You talking about McShame?

idesign on December 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Little tired of conservatives eating there own for failing some purity test. Politics means compromised when you have a split government. I don’t like it either but that’s the reality folks.

steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Compromised is right.
Not being fiscally conservative is a pretty big plank to offend.

AllahsNippleHair on December 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

The reason she’s getting this extra attention is because of her skin color.

This is wrong. We should not engage in the same skin color obsession/affirmative action that the Democrat party engages in.

A person’s skin color or race should be irrelevant to who they are.

bluegill on December 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Little tired of conservatives eating there own for failing some purity test. Politics means compromised when you have a split government. I don’t like it either but that’s the reality folks.

steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Hear that, everyone? Mitch McConnell posts here under the handle “steel guy.” What a hoot!

Who’d a thunk that ol’ Mitch didn’t know the difference between there, their, and they’re?

Kafir on December 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Nothing is going to change within the existing parties. Electing more Republicans like her is not going to solve a thing which is why I don’t even worry about it anymore. The coming fiscal collapse will impose the solutions on us, politicians won’t do it.

echosyst on December 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

It seems as though some want to give her a pass because of her skin color. Some are treating her differently because of her race. Why not judge each candidate by their record, competence, principles and character. Not skin color.

bluegill on December 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

She didn’t lose because of Romney. This is Utah after all. She is smart enough to be practical in politics. What’s wrong with most Libertarians is that they think that if they hold to their principles everybody will see that as noble and statesmanlike. That may work for Dennis Kucinich, but not for Republicans.

flataffect on December 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Brown, Christy, Ryan, Rubio etc….now Love. We all cheered them on once now they’ve failed the purity test and they are hated RINO’s. Give me a break, no wonder the dems kick our butts.

steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM

It seems like whenever there is a new, even slightly charismatic nonwhite (or not fully white) politician in either party, they are immediately tagged as an upcoming “superstar.” It happened with Barack Obama, Cory Booker and others.

bluegill on December 18, 2013 at 8:19 PM

…I just fell…out of Love!

KOOLAID2 on December 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

the persuaders- It’s A Thin Line Between Love And Hate

kcewa on December 18, 2013 at 8:19 PM

So do Republicans actually want to win in the 2014 midterms? Because everything they are doing from bashing the base to supporting crappy budgets lead me to believe that they don’t want to win. Or they think they can kick us in the face as much as they want and expect us to show up and vote for them anyway. Pathetic. And unless something changes, not only will Reid continue to be in charge of the Senate, but Pelosi will be taking the gavel back in the house.

Jack_Burton on December 18, 2013 at 8:19 PM

OMG, she said that she might do something less than perfect!

I say we vote for her in November and then get right to work on primarying her!!

thebrokenrattle on December 18, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Mitch McConnell, yeah that’s me, you caught me.

steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Brown, Christy, Ryan, Rubio etc….now Love. We all cheered them on once now they’ve failed the purity test and they are hated RINO’s. Give me a break, no wonder the dems kick our butts.

steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM

Chris Christie-gun control, amnesty, agrees 98% with Cuomo.
Ryan-Budget Boondoggle, amnesty.
Rubio-Amnesty, McCain Jr.
There are reasons, pretty big ones, for not trusting these guys.

AllahsNippleHair on December 18, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Cutting vet benefits alone should kill this deal for any conservative, considering all the other junk the government continues to fund. This is disappointing. She seems to be another Republican who starts negotiating from the middle. I guess she figures that’s the only way she can get elected.

Dongemaharu on December 18, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Someday you may find that perfect candidate who agrees with you 100 percent of the time and never disappoint you ever. The first ever true republican. Good luck.

steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Someday you may find that perfect candidate who agrees with you 100 percent of the time and never disappoint you ever. The first ever true republican. Good luck.
steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Low standards give the expected results. Thanks for getting us to where we are. Some of us want to actually move the dialogue to the right.

Dongemaharu on December 18, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Primary her Utah, you can do better than Susan Collins!

astonerii on December 18, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Primary her Utah, you can do better than Susan CollinsMia Love!

astonerii on December 18, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Damn, my bad…

astonerii on December 18, 2013 at 8:38 PM

Brown, Christy, Ryan, Rubio etc…
steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM

Right. Fakes, frauds, cowards and liars.

rrpjr on December 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Moving the conversation to the right is great and all but the real game is winning elections and taking the Senate the presidency. Installing conservative judges. These civil wars within the party only helps the democrats and the results are the opposite of what you wish for.

steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 8:49 PM

RRPJR
would you prefer that their opponents had won the elections? Do you really believe what you are saying or are you just spouting nonsense.

steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Oops.

We didn’t want that seat anyway.

WryTrvllr on December 18, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Brown, Christy, Ryan, Rubio etc….now Love. We all cheered them on once now they’ve failed the purity test and they are hated RINO’s. Give me a break, no wonder the dems kick our butts.

steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM

where were you a week ago when we really needed your mettle.

WryTrvllr on December 18, 2013 at 8:58 PM

The reason she’s getting this extra attention is because of her skin color.

This is wrong. We should not engage in the same skin color obsession/affirmative action that the Democrat party engages in.

A person’s skin color or race should be irrelevant to who they are.

bluegill on December 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM

True. But she has the guts to run as a conservative. Any idea what kind of criticism that sets her up for. Most would wither.

WryTrvllr on December 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM

True. But she has the guts to run as a conservative. Any idea what kind of criticism that sets her up for. Most would wither.

WryTrvllr on December 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM

In Utah? As a politician near Provo, and Orem? (Sarasota Springs mayor)

It “takes guts to run as a conservative” politician in Utah?… in Utah county?

?????

I warned the folks here about Ms. Love yesterday….and got flamed for it.

aquaviva on December 18, 2013 at 9:12 PM

True. But she has the guts to run as a conservative. Any idea what kind of criticism that sets her up for. Most would wither.
WryTrvllr on December 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Very true!

bluegill on December 18, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Moving the conversation to the right is great and all but the real game is winning elections and taking the Senate the presidency. Installing conservative judges. These civil wars within the party only helps the democrats and the results are the opposite of what you wish for.
steel guy on December 18, 2013 at 8:49 PM

I agree. These civil wars are bad. Establishment moderate Republicans should stop fighting conservatives.

Dongemaharu on December 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM

From darling to monster in one paragraph. Something of a land speed record. Who to replace her…. I wonder if Christine O’donnell is busy? LOL, of course she isn’t.

V7_Sport on December 18, 2013 at 9:28 PM

One: She’s running in a district that, while Republican on balance, was blue enough to send Matheson to Congress for seven terms. The further right she goes now, the greater the risk that she gets a credible Democratic challenger.

No – she is running in a NEW district (formed after the 2010 census). The district that was “blue enough” to send Matheson to Congress for the first 6 terms, sent a Republican to Congress in that seat.

Jim Matheson has always won on his last name. Now that he is “retiring”, there is NOTHING on the Dems bench so any fight for this seat will be in the GOP primary.

LL

Lady Logician on December 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM

aquaviva on December 18, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Oops. What was I thinking. Al Sharpton has never been to Wisconsin.

WryTrvllr on December 18, 2013 at 9:43 PM

She didn’t lose because of Romney. This is Utah after all. She is smart enough to be practical in politics. What’s wrong with most Libertarians is that they think that if they hold to their principles everybody will see that as noble and statesmanlike. That may work for Dennis Kucinich, but not for Republicans.

flataffect on December 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

The district might be in Utah, but it’s mostly in the suburbs south of Salt Lake City, in the heavily populated valley between SLC and Provo, which already elected a Democrat to the House.

It’s basically a purplish district in a red state, something like the Omaha district in Nebraska. Mia Love needs to be careful about tacking too far right BEFORE being elected. Besides, about 3/4 of the Republicans in the House voted for the Ryan / Murray budget deal, so she’s not alone.

The Ryan / Murray budget deal was about the best we could get while the Democrats control the Senate. If the Republicans get a Senate majority in 2015, the entire Congress can shift right on fiscal issues, since Dingy Harry nuked the filibuster, and Senate Democrats would be powerless.

Steve Z on December 18, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Man, that didn’t take long.

In the Mia Love thread yesterday I asked if she was more than just a pigmented Kristi Noem or Kelly Ayotte. Guess that she’s kind of showing the answer.

Damn.

bofh on December 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM

The Ryan / Murray budget deal was about the best we could get while the Democrats control the Senate. If the Republicans get a Senate majority in 2015, the entire Congress can shift right on fiscal issues, since Dingy Harry nuked the filibuster, and Senate Democrats would be powerless.

Yeah. Best we could do. We’ll get ‘em next time. Or at least do the best that we could do. Maybe the time after that. Or the one after that, for sure. No worry, mate. It’s not like the country is slipping away, or anything.

And Harry will probably force a vote to change the filibuster rule back again as he’s leaving office, like the Dems did with Senate replacements in Mass. He wouldn’t be running true to form if he did anything less.

bofh on December 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM

She’d probably win anyway, but having lost to Matheson despite having after having to carry the anchor around her neck known as Mitt Romney at the top of the ballot

FIFY.

Stoic Patriot on December 18, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Huh? She got three votes in that district for every four votes Romney got.

Say again — Romney got 165,000 votes in UT-4, and Mia Love got 119,000. So no, Romney — a Mormon running in the Salt Lake City district — did not hurt Mia Love in 2012. 46,000 white Utah residents who voted for Romney voted for Love’s white male opponent, Jim Matheson, liberal Democrat.

No one seems to know why, exactly.

Jaibones on December 18, 2013 at 11:41 PM

I would have voted for it too. In fact, I would have accepted just about any short term deal the Dems are willing to propose. Any budget battle or debt ceiling battle takes Obamacare off the front pages. It also gives the Dems momentum, as they always win those news cycles, at a time when they’re on the ropes.

The important thing right now for the GOP is to keep Obamacare on the front page. Everything else, and I mean everything else, is secondary.

Chris of Rights on December 19, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Before you start jumping over her for saying this, Alot of staunch cons voted for this budget

ConservativePartyNow on December 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Before you start jumping over her for saying this, Alot of staunch cons voted for this budget

ConservativePartyNow on December 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

I do not trust con men…

astonerii on December 19, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Maybe she knows her district a lot better than we do. Actions always speak louder than words.

Kissmygrits on December 19, 2013 at 10:06 AM

She’s running in a district that, while Republican on balance, was blue enough to send Matheson to Congress for seven terms.

NOT true. Matheson jumped districts (after redistricting occurred) to the least conservative one in the state.

Gunlock Bill on December 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM