Done: Senate passes Ryan/Murray budget bill, 64/35

posted at 5:21 pm on December 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

After cloture passed 67/33 on Monday, final passage of the budget bill was a fait accompli. The only mystery was whether any Republicans who voted with Reid two days ago would switch now, knowing that Democrats could pass this thing on a party-line vote, so that they can pretend later on the campaign trail that they were “against” the bill.

Mystery solved:

The three Republicans who switched were Lamar Alexander, Roy Blunt, and Jeff Flake, who’s become a fairly reliable centrist vote in his short time in the Senate. The only semi-surprise is Ron Johnson, but he comes from a blue state and was also skeptical of the “defund” effort back in October. He’s not one for shutdowns, and the whole point here was to avoid a shutdown.

Don’t be too mad at McCain, though. You’ll be pleased to learn that he’s pledged his endorsement to the Republican nominee in 2016:

To pass the time on the drive back, I engage McCain in a game of hypothetical-question roulette: If he were a young man living in Arizona today, not a politician, would he register to vote as an Independent? “I would think about it,” he says, but then catches himself and reasserts his faith in “the party of Lincoln and Ronald Reagan.” Would he consider supporting an Independent presidential candidate if Ted Cruz were the Republican nominee? “No, because I have to respect the process.” Would he support his friend Hillary Clinton in a head to head against Cruz? “I will support the Republican ticket,” he says, then adds: “With all due respect, that is a foolish question, my friend.”

If you think that’s a foolish question — and I don’t know why anyone would given that McCain himself has said he’d have trouble choosing between Hillary and Rand Paul — just read this. The only wrinkle here is that he might be slightly more likely to support Cruz over Hillary than he would Paul because Paul’s a committed dove and Hillary might end up being dragged towards dovishness by liberals in the primary. Cruz, however, as the tea-party champion, will retain a certain hawkish baseline no matter what. Depending upon what happens abroad and how safe it becomes for Cruz to embrace hawkishness in the primaries, he could win Maverick’s very grudging endorsement. Never happen with Paul, though. At a minimum, McCain would sit the election out.

Can’t wait to watch something like this at the 2016 convention right before McCain walks out onstage for his speech. Oof.


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Yahoo! We have a deal. On our way to $18 Trillion. Let’s celebrate with a rousing chorus of “God Bless America”.

oldroy on December 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

At least they are warmly wrapped in a steaming pile of intellectual integrity.

“With all due respect, that is a foolish question, my friend.”

Really? He got “my friend” into that? He must have been behind on his daily quota.

Axe on December 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Senate approves budget bill 64-36. No Dem noes. 9 GOP yeas: Collins Chambliss Hatch Hoeven Isakson McCain Portman Johnson (WI) Murkowski.

Not worth the sweat off a monkey’s nut.

AllahsNippleHair on December 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Veterans hardest hit. Tax credits for illegal aliens, pension cuts for vets.
Utterly despicable.

rbj on December 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Time to eat drink and be merry Hot air folks, don’t agonize over this for now. It could have dragged on thru the new year, and had a bunch of tax increases in it like last year, or even worse.

Portman? Murkowsi?

Portman is from Boehner’s ohio…I am really tired of Ohio aren’t you? and Murkowski? Why isn’t Sarah a senator from Alaska?

Save up your big cuts for the deficit/ debt ceiling raise fight, and please I hope some of our stars like Ted Cruz, Rubio, Paul get to lead. I am sick of these seniority rules in the senate…a lot like they are in the brick layers union?

Fleuries on December 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Somebody linked that summary the other day and the very last point is “Plus 1 Beneficiary”

I called the helpful number on the summary that listed Boehner’s phone. Asked if this was codifying same sex bennies into federal law. “No!, no way! not at all! we don’t know what you’re talking about!”

This is how California extended same sex bennies prior to the ruling to allow same sex marriage. It is the same thing our local liberal lesbian mermaid mayor is trying to do by her executive order (she’s term limited, just won an election with no mention of this so she has nothing to lose).

My neighbor still gets her grandmother’s CalPERS retirement. The family rightly assumed the bennie would last longer.

DanMan on December 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM

65 U.S. Senators not a bit better/moral/ethical than the traitor former Senator John F. Kerry.

Kerry threw American Fighting Men under the commie bus, now these traitors throw American Fighting Men under the illegal immigrant/tax and spend big government bus.

When will Americans stand for something once more, or is the U.S. done an now a immoral, corrupt, enabler of treason.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

The only wrinkle here is that he might be slightly more likely to support Cruz over Hillary than he would Paul because Paul’s a committed dove

This is a lie. Rand Paul is not a committed dove. McCain is a committed Muslim Brotherhood and terrorist supporter though and McCain should be committed. I think the Egyptians are still considering charging him with supporting terrorism.

VorDaj on December 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Sorry disabled vets, we need the money to make sure the border jumpers can get welfare bennies. Yeah yeah, you went toe-to-toe with the nastiest savages on Earth and lost a limb or two in the process, we get that, but do you have any idea what it’s like not being able to afford an LED tv? A little perspective here, huh?

Bishop on December 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

So bring me up to speed here. By budget deal, that means they all agreed to spend more money and go into more debt? Or did they agree not to spend any more, and to pay off existing debt?

I’m assuming that the GOP wouldn’t sign any budget deal that called for more spending. So the democrats caved, right?

Right?

keep the change on December 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

And now, on to amnesty! Hope you folks have some spare cash, because you’re going to need it for all the tax increases needed to pay for amnesty.

Doomberg on December 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

This is a lie. Rand Paul is not a committed dove.

Sure he is, at least relative to Cruz. That’s not to say he’d never support military action, just that he’s committed to noninterventionism in a way that I think Cruz is not, although Cruz supported him in his drone filibuster earlier this year.

Allahpundit on December 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

The veteran’s pension deal is a placemark to be revisited. It will come up in a separate vote to “restore an egregious oversight” and pass 99-0 or so. The increased $45 billion will be mentioned as a blip on the $1.058 trillion deal and anybody that disagrees will be mentally challenged according to McCain. Most of them playing from the same book of instructions.

Again, the 35 that voted no today will say that was one of the deal breakers for them while also claiming the budgetary process is flawed and spending is too high. Every one of them will vote for the funding to be restored without offsets anywhere.

DanMan on December 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

So, Ryan got his budget bill screwing disabled military veterans and handing out welfare benefits to illegal aliens passed.

Whoopee! What a conservative with integrity. He’s always sticking to principles even when he’s also sticking it to Americans.

He’s my hero!

Goin’ in the right direction. That my motto.

Dusty on December 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

he’s committed to noninterventionism in a way that I think Cruz is not

any evidence of this? I don’t recall Cruz being out there on foreign affairs.

DanMan on December 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Don’t be too mad at McCain, though. You’ll be pleased to learn that he’s pledged his endorsement to the Republican nominee in 2016:

I’m not voting GOP, anyway, but support from McShame is like the kiss of death. To paraphrase a great line, ‘I’d rather have Barky in front of me than McShame behind me.’

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Senate votes to pass legislation that cuts disabled military retiree benefits, instead choosing to protect tax loophole that allows illegal aliens to collect billions every year from IRS

This congress is shameful. They’ve deliberately chosen to cut disabled military retiree benefits when they could have saved far more money simply closing a tax loophole that allows illegal aliens with a tax ID number to claim a child tax credit unlawfully.

Paul Ryan engineered this, but the others voted to pass it.

I won’t vote for anyone who’s name was on this travesty.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

The three Republicans who switched were Lamar Alexander, Roy Blunt, and Jeff Flake, who’s become a fairly reliable centrist vote in his short time in the Senate.

Guess he feared for his re-election with TN veterans…

ladyingray on December 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

This congress is shameful. They’ve deliberately chosen to cut disabled military retiree benefits when they could have saved far more money simply closing a tax loophole that allows illegal aliens with a tax ID number to claim a child tax credit unlawfully.

Yep. And it’s eerily reminiscent of that pathetic “sequester” that the Weeping Boner and the GOP crowed about so much when they “negotiated” it, which attacked military funding first and heaviest while just barely scraping all the un-Constitutional spending from the feral government that is actually the problem. Of course, they only crowed about it until it came around to actually being implemented (and it has not really had much of an effect … except on the military, of course).

Paul Ryan engineered this, but the others voted to pass it.

I won’t vote for anyone who’s name was on this travesty.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Yep, again. Dirtbags, lowlifes, and morons they all are. Ryan was always so, but, like Rubio, for some reason many conservatives were initially fooled by him. They clearly are what they are, though, which is Vichy Republicans who look to appease their leftist and Indonesian masters first and foremost. And the rest of the slugs in the GOP who went along with this (including the slime who voted for cloture) are right there aiding and abetting the leftist and Indonesian America-haters with them.

But, as I have been saying, I’m not voting GOP anymore, anyway, so this is all a moot point for me.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Stop the Madness…!

d1carter on December 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM

This is a bill drawn by two people and their staffs. The committee was never consulted. Ryan and Murray ran to the media to announce their beautiful “bipartisan” bill.

d1carter on December 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

The GOP exits the shutdown that was causing them such ‘damage’ without having to bail on the sequester or having to cut disabled military retiree benefits in favor of continuing the loopholes for illegal immigrants.

Now to avoid a ‘shutdown’ via a preemptive surrender, the Vichy GOP bail on the sequester, screw over disabled military retirees, and show their continued love and support for illegal immigrants.

There is no will in Washington DC to return this country to the path of fiscal responsibility.

de Tocqueville was right.

Athos on December 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM

de Tocqueville was right.

Athos on December 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM

He and several others. The left buries history. Half the GOP are leftists as Lee and Cruz have exposed so brilliantly..

DanMan on December 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

GOP establishment shills will be along shortly to tell us what a great move this was, and encourage everyone to keep toeing that establishment line.

We’ll get ‘em next time, right?

Midas on December 18, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I’m seriously fed up with the GOP. The lying, the broken promises, the ease with which they betray their base, the very people who elected them and whom they are sworn to stand as proxy for in congress.

These career politicians have amply demonstrated to me that they believe they serve only the interests of their cash donors, rather than the electorate.

While the GOP in congress have remained supine at best, and often complicit, in the face of a President who has broken the law many times over in choosing to legislate from his desk and who has shown a remarkable disdain for the constitution, the rule of law, and the citizens of this nation, they have not hesitated to blame and even attack those who voted for them, those to whom they made grand campaign promises which were promptly shattered, those whom they have betrayed repeatedly…their own constituents.

I have come to the conclusion that this group of congressional Republicans needs a lesson, a refresher course in government. The only effective means left to us seems to be to stop voting for them, regardless of the club they use to beat us to the polls since they’ve proven over and over again how quickly and readily they break those campaign promises that got them elected. Perhaps ejection from the political class and reaffirmation of their membership in the private sector is the only way to get the message across that though they are a member of the political class… they are still public servants who serve at our pleasure. Well… I’m not pleased… not by a long shot.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2013 at 6:28 PM

[d1carter on December 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM]

That can’t be pointed out often enough, d1carter. There’s no democratic system at work here. These things are being done by leadership selected cabals who then rush bills out to force a vote before anyone has sufficient time to evaluate them.

I’m not going to blame those who were forced into choosing this or nothing. That’s not the way it is supposed to work. All blame should be laid at Ryan’s feet. He’s the one who chose to do it this way; accepted the assignment; and agreed to what’s in it.

I suppose Boehner might be due some of that blame, but that depends on how much authority Ryan was given; and how well informed Ryan kept Boehner during the negotiating process. Who knows, Ryan might have pulled the wool over Boehner’s eyes.

Dusty on December 18, 2013 at 6:28 PM

This congress is shameful. They’ve deliberately chosen to cut disabled military retiree benefits when they could have saved far more money simply closing a tax loophole that allows illegal aliens with a tax ID number to claim a child tax credit unlawfully.

thatsafactjack

And…AND…they STILL increased spending.

Meanwhile, talk about a winning shutdown issue. Disabled veteran’s benefits or welfare for illegals whose kids aren’t even in this country in many cases. Yeah, I’d love to take that fight to the American people.

xblade on December 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM

The fake vet entitlement “cut” is just a gimmick to enable the GOP to lie to the base that the bill will reduce the deficit by a tiny amount. Does anyone doubt that they will add the spending back in as soon as possible?

I’m curious. Does anyone know if the faked-up “cut” is a cut? Or an increase (reduction in planned increases)?

kunegetikos on December 18, 2013 at 6:50 PM

*tap tap tap*

That’s the sound of Paul Ryan and John McCain sealing up the GOP’s coffin.

Mr. Arrogant on December 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM

The GOP finally got rid of sequestration, which it “won” only by accident.

kunegetikos on December 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM

And WHY should we vote for republicans again?

At LEAST 150 or more in the House and 45 in the Senate are either Progressive or controlled by the gop leadership (in other words Big government loving, Liberty hating progressives.

PappyD61 on December 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

I’ll wager that the congressional GOP are going to say that they did this in some shrewd gambit in order to get some concession on some other bill down the road… since this is one of the worst betrayals of our contract with those in the military to date… and they did it while maintaining the unlawful flow of funds to illegal aliens, which is just salt in the wound… and the GOP are going to be very anxious to find some way to try and cover their own derrieres over this.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2013 at 6:59 PM

…saving $87.43 over ten years.

Akzed on December 18, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Yahoo! We have a deal. On our way to $18 Trillion. Let’s celebrate with a rousing chorus of “God Bless America”.

oldroy on December 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Point of order – by 9/30/2015, we’ll be closer to $19 trillion in debt than $18 trillion.

Steve Eggleston on December 18, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Senate approves budget bill 64-36. No Dem noes. 9 GOP yeas: Collins Chambliss Hatch Hoeven Isakson McCain Portman Johnson (WI) Murkowski.

I’m betting that there were more than 9 that wanted to go ahead with this, but were afraid to. These guys just drew the (elections-coming-up) short straws.

bofh on December 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Ryan/Murray sounds good, kind of like McCain/Lieberman.

David Blue on December 18, 2013 at 7:42 PM

It is my understanding that lacking a budget, the stimulus had continued under the CR. Does anyone know if this is correct?

If so, does this budget eliminate the stimulus?

Also, now that there is a budget, does this limit the ability of the executive branch to just spend money without going through the budgetary process as they were doing when there was no budget?

If any of these are true, spending may be less.

Also, they didn’t cut veteran benefits, they reduced the rate of increase of benefits.

talkingpoints on December 18, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Senate approves budget bill 64-36. No Dem noes. 9 GOP yeas: Collins Chambliss Hatch Hoeven Isakson McCain Portman Johnson (WI) Murkowski.

I’m betting that there were more than 9 that wanted to go ahead with this, but were afraid to. These guys just drew the (elections-coming-up) short straws.

bofh on December 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM

…got that right!…Lamar and Mitch would have joined their friend Hatch!

KOOLAID2 on December 18, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Also, they didn’t cut veteran benefits, they reduced the rate of increase of benefits.

talkingpoints on December 18, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Military personnel who are disabled at a percentage rating of 30% or more who have at least 10 years of service are ‘retired’ with a disability. This means they draw a military retirement pension.

With the ‘reduced rate of benefits’ that you’re discussing, a veteran who is 30% plus disabled, who is 28-30 years old, would stand to lose about $55,000-$124,000 over the course of the 30 plus years before they reached the age of 62 and full cost of living adjustments ( COLA) were reinstated. Since a veteran of that age may well have a family, and still be unable to work, this presents an undue hardship for that veteran and his/her family. This despite the fact that the contract that veteran signed with the military included a retirement with cost of living adjustments to off set inflation.

Add to that the fact that the senate refused an amendment to close a tax loophole that allows illegal aliens, working illegally in the United States, to file for and receive a child tax credit ( around $1000/child) if they have a tax identification number, which cost this nation $4.3 billion in 2010 alone according to the IRS, and far exceeds the $6 Billion over a decade that the federal government means to ‘save’ by reducing the cost of living adjustments for disabled military veterans by 1% until that veteran manages to live to be 62 years of age.

This is reprehensible. It breaks the contract between those who serve and the U.S. government and it also continues a policy of allowing illegal aliens to draw cash from the IRS unlawfully though a tax loophole because the IRS has no facility for determining if a tax filer is in this nation legally or not. The IRS, though tasked with overseeing and enforcing the ‘penalty’ for not buying health insurance under Obamacare, is NOT tasked with making sure that those who file for tax credits or refunds are actually legally allowed to work in this nation and in the nation legally.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Disabled military retirees not exempt from pension cuts in budget deal

The original language in the bill did exempt disabled retirees. That provision was intentionally removed.

Here’s the facts and figure relevant to the impact on disabled military retirees posted in the link.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

I am still waiting for someone, anyone, to explain to me why anyone gets a single dollar in welfare or foodstamps while a veteran that gave blood and limbs and skin for this country wants for anything, even a sixpack of beer.

Or shorter PointnClick, why the hell does the Wounded Warrior Project even exist?

Shrimp on a treadmill and money for ACORN, while a veteran can’t buy a replacement prosthetic or a prescription for pain? I’m ready to do violence over that….

PointnClick on December 18, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Jeff Flake, who’s become a fairly reliable centrist vote in his short time in the Senate

HUH!?

LEFTIST. ALL THE WAY.

AZ voters have been lied to and TEA Party was lied to as well.

riddick on December 18, 2013 at 8:04 PM

As a Veteran, who does not draw disability from the government, I’d like to say;

Anyone (especially republicans) who voted to take money from vets, and handed it to illegal aliens…Can suck it.

The Government has declared it’s support for lawbreakers over natural born citizens who gave part of their lives defending the Nation.

May their screams of unbearable torment ring through all Hell some day; gutless pragmatic douche-nozzles.

I wonder what event it will take before the remaining free citizens of this Country say “enough. your time is done. get out.”

a5minmajor on December 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

effing bastar*s! Which is what I called Isaakson and Chambliss in emails to their offices today. Maybe they would understand a solid punch to the nose.

ultracon on December 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

If this doesn’t prove voting GOP serves no good purpose, nothing will.

I’m done with the “change the party from within” nonsense.

Republicans in DC think being Dem Lite is the way to attract independents, and they think granting amnesty is the way to attract Hispanics.

They need to become afraid of their own base. They need an ass kicking – and that can only happen if we vote third party or stay home – and they know we did it and why.

The way things are now, it does not matter if they hold the House and take the Senate. They will vote with Democrats out of cowardice and stupidity, government will keep growing, and the country will continue its transformation into a banana republic run by corrupt and incompetent thugs.

DRayRaven on December 19, 2013 at 7:39 AM