Mitch McConnell: I “can’t imagine” that Republicans would accept a clean debt-ceiling hike in February

posted at 7:11 pm on December 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

Really? Because I can imagine it reeeeeeeal easily.

But since I made my argument at the last link for why the GOP will end up with another big cave-a-roo on the debt limit, let me play devil’s advocate here. What if circumstances conspire to force them into a surprisingly fierce bit of brinksmanship this winter? Their base is upset with them for agreeing to a lame budget deal and wants to see some action next time before the midterms. ObamaCare could (and probably will) have a chaotic January, making the law more vulnerable than ever to GOP attacks. Everyone from Paul Ryan to Ted Cruz to Ron Johnson to now Mitch McConnell is insisting that the party will need to have something in return for raising the debt ceiling, so they’d be breaking an explicit promise if they fail. Tea partiers in Congress, starting with Cruz, and conservative groups like Heritage Action will seize the opportunity to build grassroots support for a new “don’t blink” effort, especially after Reid stared down the GOP last time. A new poll shows that voters who dislike all players in Washington — a sentiment that’s likely to increase if we hit the debt limit — tend to break for Republicans, limiting the political fallout to the GOP if it happens. Democrats may well do something extra jerky to antagonize righties between now and February, be it Obama dumping on the right in the State of the Union or Reid finally nuking the rest of the filibuster. McConnell and Cornyn will feel intense pressure not to cave this time given that they’re both facing primaries in the spring. And Boehner may decide that he miscalculated by antagonizing the base last week and needs to do something to regain their support before the inevitable amnesty push next year.

If I squint at all of that, I can almost sort of imagine a critical mass of House and Senate Republicans getting cold feet on the next lame deal at the eleventh hour and allowing Treasury to hit the ceiling. Although even there, it’s tough: Since the whole point of the budget deal was to avoid a pothole on the road to 2014 (i.e. a shutdown), why would Republicans then steer the car into the political equivalent of a sinkhole? In fact, why didn’t they just include a debt-ceiling hike as part of their crappy budget compromise? Better to tear the band-aid off and let the base feel a jolt of pain then to do it in stages and drag the torment out.

Incidentally, I can also imagine circumstances changing so that a GOP cave on the debt limit becomes more assured than it already is. For what it’s worth, the new ABC/WaPo poll sees views of ObamaCare rebounding from November’s depths to a more traditional level of disapproval this month. Two other polls taken over the last ten days have O-Care at net -10 and -11 support, respectively; the last time the law was below -12 was the very beginning of November. It may be that most of the downward spiral last month was driven by perceptions of the website being a humiliating failure, not the problems consumers are running into with higher premiums and smaller provider networks. That may change next month, but it’s a glimmer of hope for Democrats that views of O-Care will be relatively stable when debt-ceiling negotiations begin, which will convince some Republicans that the law’s not as vulnerable as they’d hoped it would be.


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“I got my $3B pay-off already. The rest of you are on your own”

BobMbx on December 17, 2013 at 7:12 PM

The hell is that sag-faced troll in the background? Mitch Jr?

Jeddite on December 17, 2013 at 7:13 PM

The hell is that sag-faced troll in the background? Mitch Jr?

Jeddite on December 17, 2013 at 7:13 PM

I think that is John Barrasso of Wyoming.

esr1951 on December 17, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Mitch what are you going to do? Demand more cuts to the pensions of our disabled veterans like is in that Ryan budget deal? Hmmm?

paulsur on December 17, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Whatever, this went beyond a laughable farce about ten trillion dollars ago, at this point they might as well abolish the ceiling completely and buy everything for everyone.

No one over there is serious, not really, it’s just a big game to them.

Bishop on December 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM

The noise to signal ratio is rising. Who cares what Mitch McConnell says; its all for show.

MTF on December 17, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Anything said by self-serving establishment Repub weasel mcconnell should immediately be filed under “if you like your plan…”

TeaPartyNation on December 17, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Oh whatever, CAVEMEN.

RovesChins on December 17, 2013 at 7:28 PM

I can imagine the GOP supporting the socialization of the means of production and the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat, provided the GOP establishment gets its share.

John McCain would be saying that those who objected to the direct solution of the kulak problem without proposing their own plan to get rid of economic wreckers and saboteurs lacked intellectual integrity.

David Blue on December 17, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Mitch McConnell: I “can’t imagine” that Republicans would accept a clean debt-ceiling hike in February

Because they’ll accept it in May after the primaries are mostly done. Just like the last time there was no debt-ceiling, the mechanisms to allow the “extraordinary measures” to continue deficit spending without officially adding debt are being recharged, which will allow Congress to punt until after the RepublicRATs are safely beyond their challengers from the right.

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2013 at 7:32 PM

I can imagine the GOP supporting the socialization of the means of production and the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat, provided the GOP establishment gets its share.

John McCain would be saying that those who objected to the direct solution of the kulak problem without proposing their own plan to get rid of economic wreckers and saboteurs lacked intellectual integrity.

David Blue on December 17, 2013 at 7:29 PM

I presume that, just like the Soviets, when you said “proletariat”, you actually meant “nomenklatura”.

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2013 at 7:34 PM

It’s just such a joke.

Except for the reality of the aftermath.

wolly4321 on December 17, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Whatever, this went beyond a laughable farce about ten trillion dollars ago, at this point they might as well abolish the ceiling completely and buy everything for everyone.

No one over there is serious, not really, it’s just a big game to them.

Bishop on December 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM

If we tell you the name of the game, boy, it would either be “Riding the Gravy Train” or “How Much Can We Loot Before It All Collapses”

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Here’s a novel idea; … how about NO debt-ceiling hike AT ALL … period.
.

Whatever, this went beyond a laughable farce about ten trillion dollars ago, at this point they might as well abolish the ceiling completely and buy everything for everyone.

No one over there is serious, not really, it’s just a big game to them.

Bishop on December 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM

.
Dittos … and that’s really all that needs be said, about this.

listens2glenn on December 17, 2013 at 7:37 PM

It’s time for the congressional GOP to admit that they’re completely on board with their pals across the aisle and stop lying to the electorate.

This is the political class. They work together, in their own interests, to keep themselves in office and attending those DC cocktail parties together.

The interest of the nation or the electorate mean nothing to them. Only garnering reelection matters. The only time the interest of the nation or the electorate is served is when it’s incidental to what keeps them in office or boosts their own pay and benefits package.

TERM LIMITS.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2013 at 7:37 PM

which will convince some Republicans that the law’s not as vulnerable as they’d hoped it would be.

who is the subject Republicans Allah? voters or pols? if its pols the law isn’t anything they have to worry about as we’ve just witnessed, if its voters they don’t have much to worry about since nobody is claiming they are representing us

Anybody on this thread claiming to be a republican these days? We don’t have to declare in Texas.

DanMan on December 17, 2013 at 7:37 PM

So we are going to go a decade without a budget.

The immorality if this gang of reprobate losers is immeasurable.

Murphy9 on December 17, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Since everything McConnell, Boehner, & Co. have promised the base has been a lie for the last 10 years; bank it. Clean Debt Ceiling increase OR an automatic ratchet mechanism that lets the Executive functionally raise the ceiling at will.

Subotai Bahadur on December 17, 2013 at 7:41 PM

DanMan on December 17, 2013 at 7:37 PM

We have to declare in Oklahoma. It’s the only reason I’m registered as a Republican. I want to be able to vote in the primaries. I suspect the GOP is counting a fair number of people like me as their ‘base’. They’ve got a serious jolt coming.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2013 at 7:42 PM

But since I made my argument at the last link for why the GOP will end up with another big cave-a-roo on the debt limit,
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D*mmitts,….not agains…………!
(Le sarc)

canopfor on December 17, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Send frogman into retirement. He’s a disgrace to the brains and the eyes.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Hmmmmmms, ……

Jeanne Shaheen
2h
Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-NH, to push bill to restore military retirement benefits – @rollcall
read more on twitter.com
========================

https://twitter.com/rollcall

canopfor on December 17, 2013 at 7:47 PM

TERM LIMITS.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Indeed. The founders meant well but the thugs abused them.

Out, out, out, no matter who they are and from which party.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Ands, ……………

Niels Lesniewski ‏@nielslesniewski 1h

In case you were waiting, the budget deal won’t pass tonight. No further votes today.
===================

https://twitter.com/rollcall

canopfor on December 17, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Where’s the blazing economic activity to justify all this spending, the pols act as if spending 1 trillion extra instead of 3 trillion is a huge sacrifice. What we owe now will never be repaid without a lot of people dying.

Bishop on December 17, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Too funny. See if you can find it covered by most media.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Whatever, this went beyond a laughable farce about ten trillion dollars ago, at this point they might as well abolish the ceiling completely and buy everything for everyone.

No one over there is serious, not really, it’s just a big game to them.

[Bishop on December 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM]

Yup, yup and yup.

Maybe it’s just a figment of my imagination from having to listen Obama’s fatuous comments for five years, but remarks like this from McConnell strike me as remarkably similar to Obama trademark style of asserting something that is or will be the exact opposite of what he plans to do.

Dusty on December 17, 2013 at 7:52 PM

But Can He Imagine Cutting The Pensions of Disabled Military Retirees?

‘We’ll cut you now and, maybe, fix you later.’ basically Paul Ryan’s solution.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2013 at 7:52 PM

You won’t have any choice Mitch. What are you going to do, shut down the government?

xblade on December 17, 2013 at 7:52 PM

at this point they might as well abolish the ceiling completely and buy everything for everyone.

No one over there is serious, not really, it’s just a big game to them.

Bishop on December 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Australia just did that. The USA to follow, soon.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2013 at 7:54 PM

We have to declare in Oklahoma. It’s the only reason I’m registered as a Republican. I want to be able to vote in the primaries. I suspect the GOP is counting a fair number of people like me as their ‘base’. They’ve got a serious jolt coming.
thatsafactjack on December 17, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Same here when I was in the OKC area until I moved away this summer. As red as Oklahoma is, it’s a shame that both parties rigged the ballot such that you can’t write-in or vote 3rd party unless the 3rd party works overtime to get on it. :( The last election only gave me 3 choices; Mittness, or Oboobi or nothing. So I voted nothing for POTUS and GOP downticket. Now I have more options including declaration of my affiliation, so I’m now registered as independent.

AH_C on December 17, 2013 at 7:56 PM

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” – G. Orwell.

profitsbeard on December 17, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Where’s the blazing economic activity to justify all this spending, the pols act as if spending 1
trillion extra instead of 3 trillion is a huge sacrifice. What we owe now will never be repaid without a
lot of people dying.
Bishop on December 17, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Land transfer, forced labor, or bloodshed…or monster Yellowstone eruption.

Murphy9 on December 17, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Democrats may well do something extra jerky to antagonize righties between now and February, be it Obama dumping on the right in the State of the Union or Reid finally nuking the rest of the filibuster

Go ahead Harry! Nuke it! I double-dog dare you.

Rovin on December 17, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Mitch McConnell: I “can’t imagine” that Republicans would accept a clean debt-ceiling hike in February

…why?…when do they plan on caving…and declaring ‘victory’…or kicking the can down the road…AGAIN?

KOOLAID2 on December 17, 2013 at 8:00 PM

if folding were an olympic event the gop would win gold. repeatedly.

dmacleo on December 17, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Mitch McConnell: I “can’t imagine” that Republicans would accept a clean debt-ceiling hike in February

OK Mitch, how many $Trillions are you going to give Obama and the Democrats?

RJL on December 17, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Oh Fark you, you turtle looking asswhipe..

Pasty white people suck! Escpecially when they look like turtles

LIBERTARIANS 2014

Key West Reader on December 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Hmmmmmms, ……

Jeanne Shaheen
2h
Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-NH, to push bill to restore military retirement benefits – @rollcall
read more on twitter.com
========================

https://twitter.com/rollcall

canopfor on December 17, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Not going to happen Can……the House has already gone home ’till next year. Senate can’t make any changes without it going back to the House. Harry will wait until the last moment, pass it, and head out of town.

Rovin on December 17, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Some people still don’t get it. The GOP is dead.

I talk to many conservatives every day and none of them will vote for an incumbent. Not one.

Mr. Arrogant on December 17, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Mitch McConnell: I “can’t imagine” that Republicans would accept a clean debt-ceiling hike in February

Mitch, you and Boehner declared war on your Conservative voters, you’ll need several $Trillions in new taxes to buy the votes of Democrats as you make the sharp turn left.

RJL on December 17, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Why doesn’t Obama have the Fed create a $100 trillion coin. Then he can use it to pay the $17 trillion national debt and declare an $83 trillion surplus. If you are stupid enough to believe ANY politician, you are stupid enough to go for the $100 trillion ‘solution’.

Ceteris Paribus on December 17, 2013 at 8:10 PM

An amnesty push is inevitable next year if everyone just assumes that will happen.

GaltBlvnAtty on December 17, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Anything said by self-serving establishment Repub weasel mcconnell should immediately be filed under “if you like your plan…”

TeaPartyNation on December 17, 2013 at 7:25 PM

And “Read my lips!”

FloatingRock on December 17, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Nut’n but self-important minor-league dipsticks who find themselves miraculously at the controls of the amusement park?

Gawd help US

roflmmfao

donabernathy on December 17, 2013 at 8:36 PM

The hell is that sag-faced troll in the background? Mitch Jr?

Jeddite on December 17, 2013 at 7:13 PM

I think that is John Barrasso of Wyoming.

esr1951 on December 17, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Senator Barrasso is also one of the few medical doctors in the Senate, and has been a leading voice against Obamacare since before it passed. Whether or not you like McConnell, Jeddite, maybe you should find out who other people are before mocking them.

Steve Z on December 17, 2013 at 8:37 PM

I’m reminded of the scene in Braveheart where the Scottish common folk turn to leave the battlefield, while one of the ‘nobles’ is begging them to just “wait until we’ve negotiated!”

Mitch is just squawking a bit to:

a) play it up a bit for the folks back home (he *is* being primaried, so maybe he’s not *entirely* comfortable with where he sits); and

b) play it up a bit for the Democrats, who know he’ll buckle, but might give him an extra doggie biscuit for making a good show of it all. After all, it looks better for the Democrats to have the Republicans cave than it does for them to simply go along from the start, so they want Mitcheypoo to put on a bit of a song and dance, too.

Midas on December 17, 2013 at 8:41 PM

He (and the rest of them) are poking us with sticks.

SouthernGent on December 17, 2013 at 8:46 PM

“… which will convince some Republicans that the law’s not as vulnerable as they’d hoped it would be.

“Only in Republicanland is a -10 approval insufficient for taking action to make changes if there is just one person across the aisle willing to call them names for considering it.

Dusty on December 17, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Senator Barrasso is also one of the few medical doctors in the Senate, and has been a leading voice against Obamacare since before it passed. Whether or not you like McConnell, Jeddite, maybe you should find out who other people are before mocking them.

Steve Z on December 17, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Correct! Barrasso is one of the good guys.

onlineanalyst on December 17, 2013 at 9:01 PM

I presume that, just like the Soviets, when you said “proletariat”, you actually meant “nomenklatura”.

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Of course.

All comrades know that the white working class is pure evil and must go.

Ideally it should be replaced by racially different toilers who barely speak English, so that they can’t effectively challenge the nomenklatura for their sinecures, and in order to set up a racialized caste system in place of that evil old repressive system of homogeneity, egalitarianism, high wages based on technology and high productivity, high social mobility, and high national cohesiveness.

David Blue on December 17, 2013 at 9:14 PM

I love how Mitch McConnell is now coming out speaking conservatese. His stand up act of voting against the budget is so transparent. He knew the votes were there to pass it, so he could act like he all of a sudden grew a backbone. So insulting.

1nolibgal on December 17, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Does it really matter if Tortoise Face or his Democratic opponent wins in 2014.

bw222 on December 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM

canopfor on December 17, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Not going to happen Can……the House has already gone home ’till next year. Senate can’t make any changes without it going back to the House. Harry will wait until the last moment, pass it, and head out of town.

Rovin on December 17, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Rovin: Good point,…..and Democrats are last to know,…(sarc)!:0

canopfor on December 17, 2013 at 10:06 PM

The hell is that sag-faced troll in the background? Mitch Jr?

Jeddite on December 17, 2013 at 7:13 PM

I’ll be giggling all night over that one

Daemonocracy on December 17, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Look at Cornyn twiddling his thumbs, I can hear Mr. Burns saying “eeeexcellent”

Daemonocracy on December 17, 2013 at 10:43 PM

“tear the band-aid off and let the base feel a jolt of pain”…Republican- *flinches*

“tear the skin off your grandkids slow, with belt sander”…Democrat- *grins*

RushBaby on December 17, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Mitch McConnell: I “can’t imagine” that Republicans would accept a clean debt-ceiling hike in February

Of course not. The Republican establishment will hold out for the lowest possible tax increase to go with their new deficit lowering spending plan!

Freddy on December 18, 2013 at 1:26 AM

… For what it’s worth, the new ABC/WaPo poll sees views of ObamaCare rebounding …

Their polls are worth NOTHING! WHY would anyone even look at any their polls after the fraudulent one they produced in October? Or did allahpundit suddenly forget that these are the same hacks that polled government workers to ask who they blamed for the shutdown, and then proceeded to pretend that was a representative sample of the entire country.

abc stinks and so do their fraudulent polls.

Freddy on December 18, 2013 at 1:33 AM

before the inevitable amnesty push next year.

This will be the stupid mistake before 2014 that the GOP makes. Amnesty will help Obama with his base and will hurt the GOP with their base. So what will the net effect be? I’m done with the GOP if they pursue amnesty. Its time to show these b*stards that we don’t care about their jobs if they don’t care about our jobs. Suck it Boehner!

magicbeans on December 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM

That first sentence was really bad. Let me try again.

This will be the mistake the GOP makes before the 2014 midterm election.

magicbeans on December 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM

These MORONS are falling into Obama’s trap. He wants them to not raise the debt ceiling, so he will NOT negotiate. He wants to be able to default.

He wants to crash the system AND be able to get the LOFOs to believe his lies that it was the Republicans fault.

The budget was the place to make the stand, not the debt ceiling.

MORONS!!!!!!!!!!!

Gunlock Bill on December 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM