Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on December 15, 2013 by Allahpundit

Tough call for tea partiers this Sunday morning. Watch Paul Ryan on “Meet the Press” and “Fox News Sunday” argue that a transparently bad budget agreement, whose sole purpose was to avoid another shutdown, was actually pretty good? Or watch John McCain on “Face the Nation” and “State of the Union” explain why the near-total collapse of the FSA in Syria means we should be intervening there even more aggressively?

Actually, I’ll be watching John Kerry on “This Week” describe how this Iran deal is rock solid. Rock. Solid. The full line-up is at Politico.


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No DWS saying the economy’s rock solid too?

Rovin on December 15, 2013 at 8:09 AM

cripe…will be muting the maverick…his voice is as irritating as dear leaders imho…

cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 8:16 AM

you think they’ll bring up megyn kelley and santa claus?

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cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 8:20 AM

no, they HAVE to talk about gun control laws again with the latest shooting…

cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Check out the Politico link. Wow, that Patty Murray is one good lookin’ woman! /

Sunday = Sell the low information voter a bill of goods day.

I wish somebody would ask Paul Ryan about the part of this new budget deal that cuts military retired pay. Yep. When it comes to cuts – one of the few things they will agree on is to take money out of the pockets of active duty military and military retirees. Of course, Federal retirees are not touched.

TarheelBen on December 15, 2013 at 8:26 AM

all hail dear leader

creepy

cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Cowardice is Ruling & Ruining American Politics, Institutions & Life Itself

There is something so bizarre, yet childishly-touching about the unparalleled failure of ObamaCare, emerging at every single level of the program. This stillbirth, dead-at-conception beginning symbolizes everything one ever needs to know about epic attempts by liberals to commandeer huge swaths of the private economy,

Why, in the midst of unparalleled opportunity, have American Conservatives turned cowardly? For example, with Barack having launched his biggest policy on countless lies, and with this policy failing at every turn—Why has there been no concerted effort to impeach the president? Especially with his poll numbers tanking! Even if it failed, would this not put Barack on notice it’s time to stop pretending he’s a god and stop the dishonesty? Further, isn’t the only alternative challenging Obama instead of simply watching him take control of our health care system while ruining it?

If ever there were a time when liberalism has been revealed as a shockingly stupid series of ill-conceived policies which are impossible to implement, and which threatens America—this is it. The only antidote to this reign of stupidity is Conservative principles and policies. But until a person eloquent enough to explain the ideas, bold enough to challenge the liberal elites, and wise enough to know when to fight, versus negotiate, stands up—there will not even be a hope for Conservative revolution.

kcewa on December 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

What difference does it make? Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber

BTW McCain is leaning toward cloture on the budget proposal.

Sen. (!!!) Patty Murray is scheduled to appear with Rep. Paul Ryan. I am sure her brain-rust explanations will dazzle.

onlineanalyst on December 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM

“Political Capital” on Bloomberg TV
• Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.)
• Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), ranking member, House Budget Committee

Notice how the national media isn’t interested in the two blowhards. Budget? What’s a budget?

Rovin on December 15, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Rovin on December 15, 2013 at 8:41 AM

heh

cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Dirty little secret about Ryan’s cave-in to the dirty dems is that they now get a pass on the 60 vote necessity in the Senate on many spending bills and other stuff. Yet another “Sad” day for democracy once again. Mark Levin exposed this one.

rodguy911 on December 15, 2013 at 8:57 AM

I’m sure McCain and Ryan will manage to put in a plug for how amnesty is so good for the country. Disgusting.

TxAnn56 on December 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Pity…

“If there is at least one benefit of ObamaCare it is watching those who supported nationalizing the purchase of mandated health insurance get their comeuppance. The New York Times reports that “many in New York’s professional and cultural elite” who supported Obama and ObamaCare, and carved themselves out a sweet little health insurance pool “to avoid the sky-high rates in New York’s individual insurance market,” are now out in the cold with the rest of us:

[U]nder the Affordable Care Act, they will be treated as individuals, responsible for their own insurance policies. For many of them, that is likely to mean they will no longer have access to a wide network of doctors and a range of plans tailored to their needs. And many of them are finding that if they want to keep their premiums from rising, they will have to accept higher deductible and co-pay costs or inferior coverage.

The anguish these elite Obama supporters are going through is no different than those 5.9 million in the real world victimized by insurance cancelations: Stress, sleepless nights, financial burden, and the loss of familiar doctors and hospitals. “We are Obama’s people,” said one author. Today her insurance has been canceled and her doctors are not available through the exchanges. And she is not alone. Take Barbara Meinwald, a solo practitioner lawyer in Manhattan. “I couldn’t sleep because of it,” she said.

Ms. Meinwald, 61, has been paying $10,000 a year for her insurance through the New York City Bar. A broker told her that a new temporary plan with fewer doctors would cost $5,000 more, after factoring in the cost of her medications.

Ms. Meinwald also looked on the state’s health insurance exchange. But she said she found that those plans did not have a good choice of doctors, and that it was hard to even find out who the doctors were, and which hospitals were covered. “It’s like you’re blindfolded and you’re told that you have to buy something,” she said. …

Meinwald now says that had she known this would happen, she would have voted for Mitt Romney.

Many professionals make too much money to qualify for the subsidies, and even if they are able to find comparably priced insurance, the new policies do not have the coverage they are accustomed to.

According to the Kaiser Foundation, these people were intentionally screwed. Although their policies did meet the minimum ObamaCare coverage standards, The Times reports, the policies were still canceled as a way “to prevent associations from selling insurance to healthy members who are needed to keep the new health exchanges financially viable.”

If only the same thing would happen to the elite media, we might actually get somewhere in repealing a boondoggle that is victimizing millions in the working and middle class only to benefit a few thousand….”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/12/14/new-yorks-culural-elite-blindisded-by-obamacare

*blech*

workingclass artist on December 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM

amnesty is next!
-bill richardson on MTP

cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 9:04 AM

TxAnn56 on December 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Guaranteed….

cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Out of Ryan, McCain and Kerry, I like the one that isn’t in favor of drowning America in a brown river of socialist-voting mass immigrants.

David Blue on December 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Gun control idiots: “My sister would have done anything to save more of her kids that day.”
.
EB: “Well, with all due respect, would she have carried a weapon and been trained to use it in order to shoot the shooter? Then she could have been a live hero.”

ExpressoBold on December 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

God, I hate the grinning gob.

Midas on December 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Mark Levin exposed this one.

rodguy911 on December 15, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Not a dirty little secret, we’ve known about it from before the vote.

And I love Levin, but I’m getting a bit tired of the disconnect between his fiery discourse and accurate assessment of the the tyranny we find ourselves in, living under an utterly lawless government – and him still naively thinking that this same lawless government, which violates the Constitution when it damn well pleases, will somehow politely acquiesce to a ‘liberty amendments’ effort from the states to correct the situation. It will not; it will smugly ignore it.

There’s a single answer to tyranny, and Levin still steadfastly refuses to even discuss that. Note to Levin: it’s either tyranny, or it isn’t, sir. You’re acting like it isn’t – either shut up about it being ‘tyranny’, or start talking about actual/viable solutions.

Still hoping to get more books sold before he’s officially silenced, I suppose.

Midas on December 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Sen. (!!!) Patty Murray is scheduled to appear with Rep. Paul Ryan. I am sure her brain-rust explanations will dazzle.

onlineanalyst on December 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM

And yet she’s apparently more clever that Ryan in political aspects.

Or, he wasn’t ‘snookered’ in any way, and knowingly gave in on, well, everything in that bill.

Either way, I’ve no use for Mr. Ryan.

Midas on December 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM

The best part of the SNL sketch is the criminal, schizophrenic deaf interpreter:
http://www.businessinsider.com/snl-cold-open-mocks-obama-selfie-video-2013-12

We need this guy for the Sunday propanda programs.

onlineanalyst on December 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Tough call for tea partiers this Sunday morning.

No siht! “Man of The House” is on FXM. Vanessa Ferlito just got into the van, black panties! Then there’s “Arsenic and Old Lace” on TCM and “Blast Form the Past” on ENC. Of course I could always watch the Shark vs Dyson infomercial. Decisions decisions.

Oldnuke on December 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Mark Levin exposed this one.

rodguy911 on December 15, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Not a dirty little secret, we’ve known about it from before the vote.

And I love Levin, but I’m getting a bit tired of the disconnect between his fiery discourse and accurate assessment of the the tyranny we find ourselves in, living under an utterly lawless government – and him still naively thinking that this same lawless government, which violates the Constitution when it damn well pleases, will somehow politely acquiesce to a ‘liberty amendments’ effort from the states to correct the situation. It will not; it will smugly ignore it.

There’s a single answer to tyranny, and Levin still steadfastly refuses to even discuss that. Note to Levin: it’s either tyranny, or it isn’t, sir. You’re acting like it isn’t – either shut up about it being ‘tyranny’, or start talking about actual/viable solutions.

Still hoping to get more books sold before he’s officially silenced, I suppose.

Midas on December 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM

………………………..
Perhaps a cheap shot there.
Somehow I suspect that Levin’s major concern is not so much book sales but the future of the country.
Is he frustrated that this regime constantly ignores laws that he holds as sacred, probably. There are no 100 per centers on the air but Levin is good.
The problem as I see it remains more political strategy rather than strict adherence to the law which we will never get until we own all three branches.
As long as they keep putting up obamaesque types that have been tutored for perhaps many,many years by the best of the best to be where they are in no holds barred contests while we keep scratching our collective heads at what they just did, while we slept, we are in deep doo doo.

rodguy911 on December 15, 2013 at 9:36 AM

amnesty is next!
-bill richardson on MTP

cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 9:04 AM

“The D.C. lobbyist for Facebook owner Mark Zuckerberg says online companies will use their far-reaching and intrusive network to persuade Americans to back a massive immigration overhaul.

“Part of our job, and what we are good at, and should be really, really good at, is using the mediums we created to push out a narrative, to push out a story,” said Joe Green, the president of FWD.US, the lobbying group created and operated by Zuckerberg and other infotech giants who share the same goal of getting more cheap, skilled labor.

That’s a “selfish” goal, admitted one billionaire who spoke at the same event…

Zuckerberg has a net worth of almost $20 billion, partly because his network is used by 170 million Americans to socialize with their friends around the country.

He’s backing the Senate immigration bill, which will triple immigration during the next decade by providing 30 million green cards to immigrants and giving temporary work permits to at least 15 million guest workers.

Polls show the increased inflow is very unpopular among swing-voters, among Republicans and among those who see their parents, spouses, siblings, sons and daughters are stuck in low-wage jobs or sit on the dole. In 2012, 284,000 college graduates were working at minimum wage jobs, up from 127,000 in 2006, according to U.S. News & World Report.

Some Latino voters, and even a few Democratic legislators, oppose a new influx.

Those incoming workers sought by Facebook and other companies include programmers, marketing experts, doctors, pharmacists, researchers, therapists and designers. They’re slated to work in many cities, not just in Silicon Valley. Only a small minority of incoming workers are agriculture workers.

The Senate bill would flatline Americans’ wages for at least a decade, and shift more of the nation’s annual income to company owners and investors, according to a June report by the Congressional Budget Office.

But the bill is strongly backed by the tech industry’s big players, including Zuckerberg, Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Google co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page.

On Wednesday, Microsoft’s Skype and Bing subsidiaries arranged a video conference so that Vice President Joe Biden could promote the immigration bill. The companies allowed the White House to screen the questioners, according to a report in Politico.

“It is creepy… that the people who control the means of debate are trying to impose their point of view,” said Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies.

Zuckerberg and his fellow billionaire lobbyists are “moneybags like just like John D. Rockefeller a hundred years ago,” Krikorian said. But their domination of the internet makes their push all the more overbearing.

“This would be like Alexander Graham Bell saying he would use phones to push his agenda,” he said.

Rockefeller and his fellow millionaires were assailed by the first generation of investigative reporters, dubbed the muckrakers. But Zuckerberg and his university-trained billionaire allies are enthusiastically backed by nearly all university-trained establishment journalists whose careers are intertwined with the internet companies’ services.

Zuckerberg created his FWD.US group to push the bill, and reportedly has offered to buy tens of millions of dollars in campaign advertising to aid cooperative legislators.

The group’s goal, Green said Monday, is to “broadly shape the national conversation” so that sympathetic, business-backed Republicans can approve the immigrations bills…

The industry’s selfish goal of more guest workers “doesn’t have the broad consensus” it needs to pass, Case admitted.

The industry is pushing for more foreign workers, in part, because they use them to replace middle-aged, well-paid American tech experts.

Multiple news reports say Gutierrez is working with House budget chairman Wisconsin Republican Rep. Paul Ryan, who has declined many requests to talk about his advocacy for large-scale immigration…”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/13/zuckerberg-to-use-facebook-to-boost-immigrant-worker-bill/#ixzz2nYSB3Gj7

workingclass artist on December 15, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Not easy on an iPhone!

“Meet the Press” on NBC

• RINO
• Lib / Nitwit
• DC Pensioner
• Cons
• Lib

“Face the Nation” on CBS

• RINO
• Lib

“This Week” on ABC

• RINO
RINO
• Socialist

“Fox News Sunday” on Fox

• Ryan
• Lib
• Cons

“State of the Union” on CNN

• RINO
• Lib

Same old, same old. Media no doubt feeling vindicated and emboldened by Ryan Boner RINO attacks on conservatives. War on conservatives is now bipartisan!

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Midas on December 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Not hacking on Levin, but I agree. You can’t fight a lawless regime with law. They don’t follow the Constitution now, so how would changing it make any difference?

wolly4321 on December 15, 2013 at 9:54 AM

John kerry in vietnam telling lies again.

The bandaid war hero.

*vomit*

wolly4321 on December 15, 2013 at 9:56 AM

I can only watch Meet the Press and Fox News Sunday. Meet the Press is just finishing. The only person I fully agreed with was Scott Walker. I do hope that he runs for President.

SC.Charlie on December 15, 2013 at 10:00 AM

workingclass artist on December 15, 2013 at 9:41 AM

wonderful
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cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM

cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Yeah…aint’ it though?

workingclass artist on December 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM

The point needs to brought up repeatedly that these school shooters are for the most part mentally ill.

SC.Charlie on December 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM

workingclass artist on December 15, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Infuriating.

David Blue on December 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Paul.Ryan.is.a.total.sell.out. Boehner.is.a.scumball.

Conservchik on December 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Paul Ryan’s GRAND BUDGET……proposes cuts in the future while eliminating cuts in the present that he promised to make in the past!

What a guy!!!!

roflmmfao

donabernathy on December 15, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Midas on December 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Get up on the wrong side of the bed?

Vince on December 15, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM

…thanks!…now I know I don’t have to look…for any replays on the stations!

KOOLAID2 on December 15, 2013 at 10:47 AM

War on conservatives is now bipartisan!

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM

That would make a great bumper sticker!

Vince on December 15, 2013 at 10:50 AM

david gregory’s face glowing after interviewing future gop presidential candidates walker and ryan. softball questions abounded.

renalin on December 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM

But the bill is strongly backed by the tech industry’s big players, including Zuckerberg, Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Google co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page.

workingclass artist.

The high tech immigrants are nothing like the illegals that everyone has a problem with. While there is a problem of them coming here and depressing high tech wages here, they are law abiding citizens, and those I know, are good parents, and want better educations for thier kids than liberals are dishing out via the teacher’s unions. The young immigrants themselves, though, are duped by liberal identity arguments, and don’t see the harm to their conservative family ways.

These immigrants are about 75% male, not counting spouses, who don’t always get green cards to work they stay home with children. While the young ladies in high tech are in high demand, there are still fewer of these multicultural female engineers, just like in our country.

The outrage here is, that our young American males who show aptitude never get the chance to go to college to study math-science-engineering, because other groups exhaust the funds for “social” reasons. It is not encouraged to send every one in the top math class in high school to college for math and science, as it once may have been, because they are still only males. And they are not in preferential groups. This week Obama was touting to young American minorities that “anyone can learn to code…” May I say, DUH? That is why his website doesn’t work.

There are no merit scholarships in our country for young men who get a perfect score on the Math SAT. We throw money at those who “can’t” and then wonder why we don’t have engineers. Why not? because it is unfair that certain young men excel in these fields and that young ladies and some minorities don’t.

In CA, it is deemed “unfair” by the state, that many Asian kids test higher in math and science, and would merit too many places at CA universities. Stop giving Pell grants and places in college to kids who fail Middle School algebra and WISHING them to be engineers and computer scientists – it isn’t happening! We wonder why we don’t have American engineers in college and grad school. It is because the policies of the government and the universities are only to encourage diversity candidates at all costs. Likewise in industry, middle aged engineers are NOT retrained by companies, when they have talent, Zuckerberg could LEAD there, these are engineers who could work for another 20 years or so, but they are let go.

American High Tech companies need these foreign multicultural non whites to make their companies look like they have diversity; they need them because they do business world wide in many languages. His need is real. His immigrants are not bad people, they are mostly good people, mostly, they want to be achievers not takers. How are we going to get people like Zuckerberg to see the harm that the illegal immigrants are doing when the media won’t cover it? They say the Chamber of Commerce only sees illegal immigrants as customers now, and wants more of them to work and buy their stuff. They selfishly only see their own need, and don’t see the devastating consequence of letting criminals stay here and sneak in to have Anchor babies. We are living in two different worlds, because the media won’t cover it.

They are not allowed to tell you when half the crimes on the local paper are done by non citizens here illegally. The consequences at the local level are tragic. What we could use today, is a website to collect this information every day. What we could use is a true debate with facts and data; and we need to deport each of these criminals.

In three years you could have all the engineers and computer scientists you needed in the United States, if education money was a reward for talent – merit in math and science, regardless of age or race, and not a policy of social engineering.

Fleuries on December 15, 2013 at 10:59 AM

you think they’ll bring up megyn kelley and santa claus?

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cmsinaz on December 15, 2013 at 8:20 AM

No!Because she essentially told the critics to go fvck themselves. If more right leaning politicians would do this we’d all be better off. Even Todd Akin could have diffused the issue if he would have told everyone to back off and then explained away the comment.

Vince on December 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM

That would make a great bumper sticker!

Vince on December 15, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Why not, right? Since we’re all keeping it real, now.

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Looking at Ryan is like looking at obama when he first ran.

There is one diff – Ryan can talk, fast, sans prompter.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Why not, right? Since we’re all keeping it real, now.

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Fluke him, badly, then pour lemon juice on it.

I hope he goes to Hell, on way or another. He’s been in DC waaaay too long.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2013 at 11:57 AM

War on conservatives is now bipartisan!

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Has been for a loooong time. Now it’s just official.

Just like obama, the RINOs were exposed during the ‘shutdown’, caused by obama, btw.

Thank you Messrs Cruz/Lee, for exposing all the rats, in DC and here.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Boehner is Pelosi’s bit*ch, with or without the hammer.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Unless you are referring to what would happen if the his plan were to actually work, doesn’t it start at the state level? If we can’t do anything with our representatives at that level we are truly lost. Considering what it would take, I can’t imagine that the national level slobs could ignore it. That said, I can’t imagine it happening in my life time, since it seems a real uphill process.

Cindy Munford on December 15, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Easy call for me.I no longer watch RINO/liberals spew their filth.Working now in my home town to get a conservative third party on the ballot.Got to work hard to destroy the GOP!

redware on December 15, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Poll: Ted Cruz 3rd ‘most influential’ world leader, behind pope, Obama

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM

23% Pope Francis

21% Barack Obama

11% Ted Cruz

8% Edward Snowden

4% Vladimir Putin

3% John Boehner

3% Chris Christie

2% Miley Cyrus

2% Kate Middleton

1% Angela Merkel

1% Malala Yousafzai

1% Kathleen Sebelius

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2013 at 12:12 PM

In three years you could have all the engineers and computer scientists you needed in the United States, if education money was a reward for talent – merit in math and science, regardless of age or race, and not a policy of social engineering.

Fleuries on December 15, 2013 at 10:59 AM
…………………………..
Brilliant post.
This is what happens when social engineering outweighs logic and rational discourse. There are billions around the world who would come here. To let them in based on whether they sneak across the border through a fence or may they work cheaper is sheer folley.

Conservatives need to stop being afraid of everything we advocate for fear of hurting this group or that group. We need to at least know what is right. Getting it across requires political strength and to get politically strong you have to be politically savvy. We need better political strategies than our opponents have and that’s the problem.
Do we have them? Not so much.

rodguy911 on December 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Has been for a loooong time. Now it’s just official.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Amen.

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Not easy on an iPhone!

“Meet the Press” on NBC

• RINO
• Lib / Nitwit
• DC Pensioner
• Cons
• Lib

“Face the Nation” on CBS

• RINO
• Lib

“This Week” on ABC

• RINO
RINO
• Socialist

“Fox News Sunday” on Fox

• Ryan
• Lib
• Cons

“State of the Union” on CNN

• RINO
• Lib

Same old, same old. Media no doubt feeling vindicated and emboldened by Ryan Boner RINO attacks on conservatives. War on conservatives is now bipartisan!

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM

This is what I wait for. Thank you, Jaibones. Even on an iPhone, it’s perfect.
I want to slap the p!ss out of Ryan.
McCain, well, I’ll let old age and a wh@rs daughter do the job.

AllahsNippleHair on December 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Hahahahaha…merci, mon ami.

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 1:43 PM

AllahsNippleHair on December 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Did the review this week from my Dad’s hospital room on an iphone…much left to be desired. (Dad is ok…no disrespect to him.)

Upon further review, the overall view of today’s media propaganda effort reflects that RINOs are ascendant. Does this show that the media cheers for either party when they are centrists? No, of course not. The media loves the kook-left. The only reason why RINOs are in favor is because Ryan and Boner chose to attack conservatives this week, imo.

Not sure what they think they are getting out of these attacks, other than a Newfound Respect from the DNC Media.

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM

AllahsNippleHair on December 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Did the review this week from my Dad’s hospital room on an iphone…much left to be desired. (Dad is ok…no disrespect to him.)

Upon further review, the overall view of today’s media propaganda effort reflects that RINOs are ascendant. Does this show that the media cheers for either party when they are centrists? No, of course not. The media loves the kook-left. The only reason why RINOs are in favor is because Ryan and Boner chose to attack conservatives this week, imo.

Not sure what they think they are getting out of these attacks, other than a Newfound Respect from the DNC Media.

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Prayers for a speedy recovery for your father, Jaibones.
Boehner received a favored nod from Harry Reid for eating his own. You never see democrats going after Joe Manchin and he pretends to be moderate. I’m hoping the rinos see the light, but it’s hard to see anything with their heads firmly placed up their rear ends.
Again, thank you and best wishes for your family.

AllahsNippleHair on December 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Not sure what they think they are getting out of these attacks, other than a Newfound Respect from the DNC Media.

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Personally, I think a lot of them are drinking the Kool Aid being dished out by La Raza and the other “immigration reform” groups, as well as the Chamber of Commerce/crony capitalist crowd. They really believe that if they jettison the conservative base and sell out fully on amnesty, they’ll more than make up the lost base votes with the newly minted “citizens”.

And even if they don’t get those new votes (which of course they never will), they’re comfortable enough being a permanent minority party, as long as the Dems toss enough scraps their way to allow them to keep enjoying their perks and privileges.

Gator Country on December 15, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Did the selfie come up at all today? Kind of think the president of the US embarrassing himself in front of the world would be a topic.

Ellis on December 15, 2013 at 3:18 PM

a transparently bad budget agreement, whose sole purpose was to avoid another shutdown

And YOUR alternative was. . . ??? Just as I thought, a big mouth and tiny brain. Go to the Cruz corner.

This was as good as we could get the Democrats to go for. They would not agree to maintain the sequester cuts – BESIDES, if you wanted to keep the sequester in place, the time to act was to support Boehner’s original plan for a “Clean CR” in September, before the Cruz Cult stampeded us into a shutdown.

It also brings Congress back into a budget cycle for the first time in a few years. I understand that doesn’t excite the peasants screaming for red meat, but it is important. And gives a bit of relief to the defense cuts, which keeps the security hawks in our caucus in line – they would have ditched the sequester altogether if we didn’t get something in relief.

~~~~~

So the question remains for the naysayers: What was your alternative?

Another shutdown? What on earth would make anyone think it would work any better now than it did two months ago?

Are you just stupid?

Adjoran on December 15, 2013 at 4:36 PM

I can’t stand looking at Paul Ryan’s disgusting grin.

bluegill on December 15, 2013 at 4:46 PM

workingclass artist on December 15, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Outstanding post. Excellent.

thatsafactjack on December 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM

They really believe that if they jettison the conservative base and sell out fully on amnesty, they’ll more than make up the lost base votes with the newly minted “citizens”.

And even if they don’t get those new votes (which of course they never will), they’re comfortable enough being a permanent minority party, as long as the Dems toss enough scraps their way to allow them to keep enjoying their perks and privileges.

Gator Country on December 15, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Can’t agree on the first point — only John McCain is that stupid.

On the second point…bing. This seems to be the D.C. mentality about everything. Argue a pre-scripted point, half-heartedly, have anal sex with a lot of lobbyists, and make special election rules which virtually guarantee re-election. End up in the minority, so what? You keep getting richer and re-elected.

Jaibones on December 15, 2013 at 6:38 PM