Heart Ache. Media Matters declares victory in War on Fox News

posted at 8:01 am on December 14, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

It’s been a week of ups and downs in the political news world, with probably a few more downs for the majority of you. With that in mind, I thought we might kick off the weekend shift with something a bit more on the light side. The Huffington Post decided to break some big news on Friday regarding the long, ongoing war and the prospects for peace. No… I’m not talking about Afghanistan here. It’s the several years long War on Fox News waged by Media Matters for America. (There will be no free T-shirt for the first person in the comments to quote that last line and say, “who?”) And the good news for fans of peace everywhere is that they have won.

Since its founding in 2004, the progressive watchdog group Media Matters for America has been a thorn in the side of Fox News. Its dozens of staffers monitor the network’s leadership, hosts, guests and financial dealings incessantly, calling out misinformation, conflicts of interest and evidence of a partisan agenda, in a bid to shed light on the workings of the right-wing echo chamber…

“The war on Fox is over,” said Media Matters Executive Vice President Angelo Carusone. “And it’s not just that it’s over, but it was very successful. To a large extent, we won.”

I’m not sure how dismal things must be over at Fox News this weekend. It’s a tall building, and I hope the windows are sealed so the workers there aren’t hurling themselves out into the streets. But to get the full impact of exactly how badly Media Matters has destroyed the Fox Right Wing Trickery Machine, I decided to check in at TV By the Numbers to see what the last available ratings were for the various cable news networks. These are from Thursday.

Ratings

Even if you just look at the key ratings demographic for the day, you’ll see that total viewership for Fox actually exceeds CNN, MSNBC and CNBC combined. I’ve heard of defining victory down, but this is taking things to an entire new level.

This from Bryan Preston at PJ Media, though you really need to read all the stats and details he provides.

Media Matters isn’t declaring victory, despite the Huffington Post putting their best spinner on the story. It’s waving a white flag.

My condolences to the entire media family at Fox. This must be a tough day, and we wish them the best as they somehow struggle through.


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I’m a little unclear with their explanation of victory. Were that in a contest with Fox News? Was there some sort of ongoing legal battle? Have they collapsed FN? Put them out of business? What was their gain?

Dr. Frank Enstine on December 14, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Media Matters is a far left wing propaganda machine closely aligned with Obama and his band of professional liars. Their best efforts have failed to even dent FOX news but instead have demolished their own dubious reputation.

rplat on December 14, 2013 at 8:10 AM

just cuz fox has strong ratings doesn’t mean it provides real news or quality programming

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

“jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes”

Yeah, right. Good grief.

lowandslow on December 14, 2013 at 8:23 AM

just cuz fox has strong ratings doesn’t mean it provides real news or quality programming

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Apples and oranges. Springer and 60minutes is not in the same venue. Looking at the stats for people tuning in for news Fox is still the top rated. That says a lot about how people feel about the quality of the other news outlets.

Dr. Frank Enstine on December 14, 2013 at 8:24 AM

nonpartisan-
It also doesn’t mean they don’t. (BTW, are you nonpartisan b/c loony_left-wing_hack is taken?)

And 60 minutes is your gold standard of journalism? Jerry Springer at least knew who he was.
AND any of the competitor’s, including WaPo and NYT, have better journalistic approach to news?
Go back to sleep before you hurt your brain and some learnin’ pops in.

gonnjos on December 14, 2013 at 8:27 AM

More Pathetic Newspeak from the left.
“If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*t.”

zap-johnson on December 14, 2013 at 8:29 AM

I’m a little unclear with their explanation of victory. Were that in a contest with Fox News? Was there some sort of ongoing legal battle? Have they collapsed FN? Put them out of business? What was their gain?

Dr. Frank Enstine on December 14, 2013 at 8:10 AM

They believe they’ve discredited Fox News…

Anti-Control on December 14, 2013 at 8:29 AM

juss sayin passing gas

non-nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Anti-Control on December 14, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Yeah but…Most Americans still get their info from the legacy media.

“This is analogous to the problem of conservatives making Fox News a singular focus of efforts to combat liberal media bias. As early as February 2009, I described what I called “The Fox Trap”:

Media-wise, the GOP made the mistake of putting all its eggs in one basket. I enjoy Fox News, but it has created a syndrome where Republicans watch Fox all the time and delude themselves into thinking, “Hey, our message is getting out! We’re winning!” Fact: The evening news broadcasts of ABC, NBC and CBS reach a combined audience of about 22 million; the top rated Fox News show, “The O’Reilly Factor,” reaches 4 million viewers. So if the three broadcast networks are viciously biased against Republicans – and they are – then that anti-GOP message is reaching more than 5 times as many TV viewers as Fox.

Fox News is, as it proudly boasts, Number One in Cable News, accounting for 68% of the cable news audience. Add in the major network evening news broadcasts, however, and the total news audience is closer to 30 million, of which Fox’s share is about 11%.
In other words, 89% of news on TV is reliably liberal in its perspective, and the Left’s obsession with Fox News is absurd. Why should Media Matters have an annual budget of $10 million to counteract the influence of a network that gets 11% of the news audience?

We could discuss at length the ramifications of this data, but the point to be made immediately is that Fox News has functioned like a channelizing terrain feature in the informational battlefield. For the defenders of liberal media hegemony, all they had to do was to isolate Fox — identify it as a hostile force in the eyes of other media — and then to target both the network’s messages and its messengers.

In other words, a story that was damaging to Democrats or which undermined key elements of the liberal media narrative could be discredited simply by saying, “Oh, that’s a Fox story.”

This phenomenon was evident, for example, in the unrelenting attacks on Glenn Beck (whom liberals correctly identified as a popular figure among Tea Party-aligned conservatives) and even more clearly in the Left’s endless attacks against Andrew Breitbart.

What was the Left’s reaction to the initial revelations of “WeinerGate” in May 2011? “Oh, that’s bogus, because it’s just a Breitbart story.”

One thing that particularly enraged the Left was that CNN interviewed Breitbart about the story…

No one associated with Fox News will ever acknowledge the limits of their influence, but conservatives should not let themselves be blinded to the larger media reality…” – Robert Stacy McCain

http://theothermccain.com/2013/12/13/after-nine-long-years-media-matters-declares-victory-in-war-on-fox-news/

workingclass artist on December 14, 2013 at 8:30 AM

I think the only way to beat FOX is to move to the right of them, the left is too crowded. I’m honestly surprised no network is trying this.

steel guy on December 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Jerry Springer had better ratings in his worst year than MSNBC, CNN and CNBC combined in their best years.

HiJack on December 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM

just cuz fox has strong ratings doesn’t mean it provides real news or quality programming

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

When are you gonna get around to changing your web name to something that more appropriately fits your political ideology? juss askin

DaveDief on December 14, 2013 at 8:33 AM

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Besides, I don’t think that Fox News would want Springer’s audience who are already mesmerized by MSBNC.

HiJack on December 14, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Next thing you know the New England Patriots will be declaring victory over the Chicago Bears in Super Bowl XX.

Doug Piranha on December 14, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Mission Accomplished

Well done Eric Boehlert, Oliver Willis, and David Brock, et al.

Victory is at hand.

Oh by the way does Baghdad Bob work for MMFA?

simkeith on December 14, 2013 at 8:36 AM

It’s the several years long War on Fox News waged by Media Matters for America.

Who…?

JohnGalt23 on December 14, 2013 at 8:37 AM

As noted above, Fox wins cable …. but the MSM still has a bigger megaphone with the networks.

Media Matters hasn’t won a thing – the only people “convinced” by it’s sophomoric “reporting” are those who already agreed with the bilgewater they pump.

What have they done? Taught the left to call Fox “Faux News” ….

Whoa … that stings ….

Fox is doing its part to bring balance to the world of media – someone needs to acquire one of the big three & demand the same.

BD57 on December 14, 2013 at 8:46 AM

just cuz fox has strong ratings doesn’t mean it provides real news or quality programming

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Moron.

You’re most assuredly one of those Jerry Springer watchers, too.

Shepherd Lover on December 14, 2013 at 8:49 AM

And NEWSBUSTERS is Media Matters kryptonite. While Media Matters puts 99% of their concentration on Fox, Newsbusters takes on the whole liberal media, and their moronic ideology—and they do a fine job.

Rovin on December 14, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Moron.

You’re most assuredly one of those Jerry Springer watchers, too.

Shepherd Lover on December 14, 2013 at 8:49 AM

yeah, so?

I enjoyed jerry springer for awhile for what it was…smut trash tv

not so different from a ‘news anchor’ telling ppl that some imaginary fantasy characters were white

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM

workingclass artist on December 14, 2013 at 8:30 AM

excellent post

Sadly, the world we live in today is ripe for this confusion. Fox should be the norm with both sides being argued, but labeled as a conservative venue distorts.

smitty41 on December 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM

……and the Left’s obsession with Fox News is absurd.

workingclass artist on December 14, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Unrealistic promises and shameless lying are the sine qua non of the liberal march to collectivism. Unrealistic promises propped up by shameless lying are exceptionally important devices of the Obama administration’s modus operandi. Because modern liberalism is not based in reality to any extent but mostly on ideology alone any threat no matter how minor is taken seriously. The Left’s obsession may seem absurd but I think authoritarians tend to be paranoid and I think there are good reasons why even though they seek to control the masses, deep down, they fear the masses.

DaveDief on December 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Has Media Matters hung up a Mission Accomplished banner yet?

docflash on December 14, 2013 at 8:55 AM

just cuz fox has strong ratings doesn’t mean it provides real news or quality programming

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

just cuz fox has strong ratings doesn’t mean it provides real news or quality programming

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

noforeskin on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM….I know…………….just because you have a little tiny knob… you polish all the time when you come on HA…doesn’t mean you’re a guy!…………I’ve seen women take a pi$s…….. while standing up too!

KOOLAID2 on December 14, 2013 at 9:00 AM

JohnGalt23 on December 14, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Fine. You can have a t-shirt.

Jazz Shaw on December 14, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Gotta be impressed; seems impossible, yet some trolls manage to make themselves look stupider with every post. That really is an accomplishment.

Midas on December 14, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Is Juliet Huddy in a black leather dress this morning on Fox and Friends Weekend a demonstration that Media Matters can never win.

Fabulous eye candy.

meci on December 14, 2013 at 9:05 AM

workingclass artist on December 14, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Have to say I agree.

Anecdotally, if I post a story on FB from CNN or ABC it is somehow accepted as “news”. When I post a story from Fox News, I might as well be posting from Breitbart. That is, the story is considered political commentary and not news. The alphabets are still given the assumption of neutrality, an assumption not given to Fox.

mankai on December 14, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Fabulous eye candy.

meci on December 14, 2013 at 9:05 AM

O…M…G…

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 9:08 AM

not so different from a ‘news anchor’ telling ppl that some imaginary fantasy characters were white

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM

You do realize that you are a joke around here, right? You have no facts to back you up, no history, you only have making stuff up.

rbj on December 14, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Is that like Charlie Sheen winning winning?

scalleywag on December 14, 2013 at 9:15 AM

What if they threw a war, and nobody noticed?

MattCraven on December 14, 2013 at 9:15 AM

rbj on December 14, 2013 at 9:11 AM

HA’s very own version of Media Matters for America. Though, not as effective.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Meh. Huddy looks like a boy.

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 9:18 AM

They’ve won because they say so… and that’s all that’s necessary when you speak and bust kneecaps for the Obama administration. Fox News has been contained, limited and isolated as extreme in the eyes of a majority of Americans. The conservative media reach is still dwarfed by the the progressives. In other news, Brent Bozell and the MRC declare victory over nothing.

We need magazines to compete with Time, Newsweek, Cosmo, etc… and shows/brands to compete with Today (Steve Doucy does not) and the seemingly endless progressive network programming that feeds the dominant liberal worldview of our country.

MT on December 14, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 9:18 AM

that explains much.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Media Matters declares victory in War on Fox News

I keep thinking of a 90′s USENET poster firing off post after post in his basement. After one especially cathartic one he declares victory against the dark forces trying to suppress his message of truth. Can’t get that image out of my head.

roy_batty on December 14, 2013 at 9:21 AM

that explains much.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 9:20 AM

I could link a picture of a woman but I refuse to share.

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 9:21 AM

“We deal with reality. She’s not as vitriolic,” said Carusone. “On the other hand, she is in some ways more pernicious because her credibility has not been completely and totally eroded … so she has the potential to legitimize and validate smears and lies in ways that some of the more disreputable figures on Fox can no longer do, which just presents a new challenge.”

This is a quote from the Huffpo article that explained that they couldn’t figure out a way to ruin Megyn Kelly’s credibility.
I guess their strategy for destroying Fox News’ credibility was put out of reach, so they did what any good progressive would do… crow about a great victory and the reality they wanted, not what they had.

tdarrington on December 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM

I keep thinking of a 90′s USENET poster firing off post after post in his basement. After one especially cathartic one he declares victory against the dark forces trying to suppress his message of truth. Can’t get that image out of my head.

roy_batty on December 14, 2013 at 9:21 AM

You don’t need to go 90′s USENET. You can get that on any hot thread on Hot Air. :)

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 9:21 AM

That’s okay, I’m good.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Every time liberals declare victory, they tend to abandon the battlefield and go home, leaving the enemy still alive and kicking. The only way MMA could ‘win’ is if FNC left the airwaves. Since Fox hasn’t…

Liam on December 14, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Meh. Huddy looks like a boy.

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Are you freakin’ serious?

BallisticBob on December 14, 2013 at 9:25 AM

In my experience the loudest critics of FOX News don’t ever watch FOX News.

myiq2xu on December 14, 2013 at 9:27 AM

The Japanese were victorious at Guadalcanal, too.

Or so they reported to Tokyo.

That is some victory!

Sherman1864 on December 14, 2013 at 9:29 AM

And NEWSBUSTERS is Media Matters kryptonite. While Media Matters puts 99% of their concentration on Fox, Newsbusters takes on the whole liberal media, and their moronic ideology—and they do a fine job.
Rovin on December 14, 2013 at 8:52 AM

They do a fine job if moving the needle isn’t part of your criteria for defining success. Noel and crew are wonderful, but they have no channel through which to have a meaningful impact on the masses. If it doesn’t move the needle, it doesn’t matter beyond those already convinced.

MT on December 14, 2013 at 9:32 AM

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

I highly doubt this. Most Nielsen data I’ve seen shows 60 Minutes averaging 10-12 million viewers per show, while Springer rarely tops 3 million.

JimLennon on December 14, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Embrace the suck.

crosshugger on December 14, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Media Matters declares victory in War on Fox News

This ranks with:

“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.”

Rio Linda Refugee on December 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Why don’t you ask yourself why Americans would rather watch transvestite cat fights than “news” programming that promotes your ideology?

Alberta_Patriot on December 14, 2013 at 9:39 AM

crosshugger on December 14, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Partisan does.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 9:40 AM

In defense of Springer, I would imagine 60 minutes, for most people, is a Food Lion/overturned burning Ford truck/95 year old Ed Bradley with stupid earrings too far…

Lanceman on December 14, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Media Matters: unicorns, rainbows and free jelly beans rolling from Obama’s hands…

Media Matters, MSNBC << consider the source/s.

Lourdes on December 14, 2013 at 9:50 AM

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

noforeskin on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

…probably…because it was more accurate and truthful!

KOOLAID2 on December 14, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Lanceman on December 14, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Chevy truck or Ford Pinto. But not a Ford truck.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Chevy truck or Ford Pinto. But not a Ford truck.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Was it a Chevy truck they purposely tipped over and exploded? I thought it was a Ford. Meh. Shows how much attention I pay to propaganda and lies.

Lanceman on December 14, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Lanceman on December 14, 2013 at 9:54 AM

78′ era Chevy/GMC truck. NBC rigged it with a model rocket motor.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM

I can’t debate blank-paper uninteresting and strangely speed-square-like Juliet Huddy anymore because something serious has happened.

Why does Galt get a t-short and no one else? I want a t-shirt. I have a right to a t-shirt. I demand HA distribute t-shirts regardless of ability to pay.

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Dang. If MMA is declaring victory over Fox, I would hate to see their version of defeat.

BigAlSouth on December 14, 2013 at 10:08 AM

short = shirt.

Although, if anyone gets a t-short — I want one of those too. Whatever it is.

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Nixon, as helicopters are rescuing the last few folks in Saigon, “Winning!”

Charlie Sheen, as he leaves a $1M per episode gig on his way to oblivion, “Winning!”

Boehner, as he passes legislation abandoning all principles he claims to believe, “Winning!”

Media matters, as it gets more hits from misspellings than intentional searches, “Winning!”

Wino on December 14, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Media Matters is taking their tattered and worn out punching-bag (the one emblazoned with their name and logo)…

… and going home.

They say they won.

:)

BigSven on December 14, 2013 at 10:09 AM

78′ era Chevy/GMC truck. NBC rigged it with a model rocket motor.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM

No, this was in the 2000s. A Ford Exploder or something. Rigged the gas tank to explode when it tipped over.

Lanceman on December 14, 2013 at 10:09 AM

I have a right to a t-shirt. I demand HA distribute t-shirts regardless of ability to pay.

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Maybe you shouldn’t have dissed the fair Juliet.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 10:10 AM

And 60 minutes is CBS.

Lanceman on December 14, 2013 at 10:10 AM

“These outlets are not our enemy. We do not have a hostile posture toward them,”

As they declare victory in their one-sided ‘war.’ Someone should put a fence around that asylum.

RadClown on December 14, 2013 at 10:10 AM

What a coincidence, I’ve declared victory in my war against Media Matters. There was much rejoicing.

Flange on December 14, 2013 at 10:13 AM

In related news, the Obama administration declares victory over reality.

PackerBronco on December 14, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Maybe you shouldn’t have dissed the fair Juliet.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 10:10 AM

I’m sure he’s a very nice guy.

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Lanceman on December 14, 2013 at 10:09 AM

ALL faked news leads back to when NBC faked the Chevy truck gas tank explosions. Not even Dan Rather was that blatant in faking the news.

I own a 00′s Explorer and never heard of a 60 Minutes expose’.

cozmo on December 14, 2013 at 10:25 AM

No, this was in the 2000s. A Ford Exploder or something. Rigged the gas tank to explode when it tipped over.

Lanceman on December 14, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Wasn’t that a tire problem?

Flange on December 14, 2013 at 10:34 AM

When will King Obama sic the IRS on Media Matters…
;-)

albill on December 14, 2013 at 10:38 AM

just cuz fox has strong ratings doesn’t mean it provides real news or quality programming

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

And John Stewart is the left’s number one “news” anchor. At least for those willing to believe their lying eyes.
This is just the setup before the federal dismanteling. “We won. No reason to notice when Fox and Rush and those on the right are silenced as enemies of the state by the most transparent one.”
You were juss sayin?

onomo on December 14, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Just cuz fox has strong ratings doesn’t mean it provides real news or quality programming

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

But of course. Just listen to the outstanding quality programming provided by the lowest-rated radio network in history.

Oh. You can’t.

de rigueur on December 14, 2013 at 10:55 AM

It’s a liberal victory. They do victory like they do economics, web design, embassy security, foreign policy, green energy… well, you get the point.

trigon on December 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Wino on December 14, 2013 at 10:09 AM

To be fair, Ford was president when Saigon was evacuated. And it wasn’t really his fault. The democrats reneged on their promises to support our allies in S. Vietnam by cutting off much of their funding and arms.

mankai on December 14, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Wasn’t that a tire problem?

Flange on December 14, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Damfino. Alls I know is that it was proven to be a fabrication from start to finish. As I suspected all along.

Lanceman on December 14, 2013 at 11:04 AM

And NEWSBUSTERS is Media Matters kryptonite. While Media Matters puts 99% of their concentration on Fox, Newsbusters takes on the whole liberal media, and their moronic ideology—and they do a fine job.

Rovin on December 14, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Media Matters has a regular page dedicated to corrections to things they’ve gotten wrong. NewsBusters does not.

Del Dolemonte on December 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM

To a large extent, we won.

Progressive speak for we lost.

sadatoni on December 14, 2013 at 11:17 AM

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Sure. Because you and so many of your flaming queen butt-buddies watch nothing but jerry springer.
Anything else would be too intellectual – and, therefore, incomprehensible – to you and them.

Not sayin’ you azzclowns are stupid or somethin’…but…y’all are really stupid.

Jus’ sayin’.

Solaratov on December 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Just cuz fox has strong ratings doesn’t mean it provides real news or quality programming

nonintelligent on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Please give us some examples of the “fake” news Fox has presented. Then please contrast it with the fake stories CNN ran about the US nerve-gassing civilians in Cambodia, and their later falsely accusing US troops of murdering Iraqi journalists. Their CEO had to resign in disgrace over that one.

F-

Del Dolemonte on December 14, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Lunatics in insane asylum wipe away drool and declare victory, while president lies and fails and problems increase. Great !

arand on December 14, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Why does Galt get a t-short and no one else? I want a t-shirt. I have a right to a t-shirt. I demand HA distribute t-shirts regardless of ability to pay.

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 10:07 AM

I’m with Axe on this. We should ALL get T-shirts (or t-shorts).

Think of the deleterious effect it may have on our self-esteem if we DON’T get a t-shirt (or short). Can HotAir really manage to live with that on its conscience?

Solaratov on December 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Please give us some examples of the “fake” news Fox has presented. Then please contrast it with the fake stories CNN ran about the US nerve-gassing civilians in Cambodia, and their later falsely accusing US troops of murdering Iraqi journalists. Their CEO had to resign in disgrace over that one.

F-

Del Dolemonte on December 14, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Whatca talking about Del? Faux News used some stock footage one time that showed palm trees in it on a story about something that happened in Wisconsin. FAUX NEWS! FAUX NEWS!!

HumpBot Salvation on December 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Kind of like your football team getting their a** kicked 72-0 but you made it past the 50 in their territory one time during the game.MM is on the verge of a meltdown.

jeffinsjvca on December 14, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Please give us some examples of the “fake” news Fox has presented. Then please contrast it with the fake stories CNN ran about the US nerve-gassing civilians in Cambodia, and their later falsely accusing US troops of murdering Iraqi journalists. Their CEO had to resign in disgrace over that one.

F-

Del Dolemonte on December 14, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Whatca talking about Del? Faux News used some stock footage one time that showed palm trees in it on a story about something that happened in Wisconsin. FAUX NEWS! FAUX NEWS!!

HumpBot Salvation on December 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM

I forgot a CNN Golden Oldie. Remember disgraced CNN reporter Peter Arnett?

In 1998 Arnett narrated a joint venture between CNN and Time magazine, NewsStand, which described what he called “Operation Tailwind”.

The report, titled The Valley of Death, claimed that the United States Army had used Sarin against a group of deserting U.S. soldiers in Laos in 1970. The men allegedly involved were an elite Green Beret A-Team. The report was expressly approved by both CNN Chairman Tom Johnson and CNN President Rick Kaplan.

-snip-

CNN subsequently conducted its own investigation which concluded that the “journalism [in the Valley of Death] was flawed” and retracted the story. In the event, all 12 men of the Green Beret A-Team were wounded in action during Operation Tailwind, which had absolutely nothing to do with sarin.

Three or more of the individuals responsible were fired or forced to resign, for the US Government had insisted that the report was flawed. Arnett was reprimanded.

The co-producers of the report, April Oliver and Jack Smith, were dismissed. They sued Time Warner, the parent company of CNN, claiming they had been wrongfully fired and Time Warner ultimately paid millions of dollars to settle their lawsuits, along with other suits brought by military personnel who claimed to have been libeled in the Oliver/Smith report. Senior producer Pam Hill and others resigned.

Del Dolemonte on December 14, 2013 at 11:55 AM

I believe this whole thing is out there for a reason. This is CYA on Media Matters part. The rumors floating around about what the IRS wants to do with these organizations wouldn’t allow Media matters as they operate now, to be tax exempt. This is just PR so they can say they used to do this but don’t any more. Nothing will change there.

bflat879 on December 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Huge win.

They’ve discovered that there were black Germans in the 17th century.

Are we sure this isn’t the same team that discovered black Poles on the cover of a Microsoft box?

Ben Hur on December 14, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Why is it when I hear of Media Matters I’m reminded of Urkel?

Lanceman on December 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Media Matters isn’t declaring victory, despite the Huffington Post putting their best spinner on the story. It’s waving a white flag.

Heh. Maybe HuffHo was being facetious. Because clearly Fox News is kicking the living sh!t out of Media Matters for Moscow.

Jaibones on December 14, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Moron.

You’re most assuredly one of those Jerry Springer watchers, too.

Shepherd Lover on December 14, 2013 at 8:49 AM

yeah, so?

I enjoyed jerry springer for awhile for what it was…smut trash tv

not so different from a ‘news anchor’ telling ppl that some imaginary fantasy characters were white

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Of course nonpartisan loves Jerry. He finally got to find out who ‘daddy’ was on the show entitled “Who’s your daddy? Mommy did everybody.”

AllahsNippleHair on December 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM

AllahsNippleHair on December 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Man, in the time it took me to log on, you rendered my intended post obsolete.

S. D. on December 14, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Why does Galt get a t-short and no one else? I want a t-shirt. I have a right to a t-shirt. I demand HA distribute t-shirts regardless of ability to pay.

Axe on December 14, 2013 at 10:07 AM

I

’m with Axe on this. We should ALL get T-shirts (or t-shorts).

Think of the deleterious effect it may have on our self-esteem if we DON’T get a t-shirt (or short). Can HotAir really manage to live with that on its conscience?

Solaratov on December 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Force Galt to cut the shirt up into small pieces and send an equal sized piece to everyone.

justltl on December 14, 2013 at 1:56 PM

This one really makes me laugh!

Angelo Corusone is a left wing hack who has a history of claiming victory while in the jaws of defeat.

1. He lead the charge to ruin Glenn Beck with his @stopbeck twitter brigade. When Beck left Fox he claimed credit for ruining him. Since then Beck has put together a multimedia empire at TheBlaze. Good work Angelo!

2. After going after Beck, Corusone set his eyes on Rush. He created the @stoprush persona and has harassed Rush’s advertisers. He continues to claim major victories, yet Rush marches on.

Just a little over two years ago Corusone was a poor law student at the Univ. of Wisconsin. His meteoric rise to to Exec VP at MMFA is no wonder considering his accomplishments with Beck and Rush.

You Go @GoAngelo

LMFAO!

BrianA on December 14, 2013 at 1:57 PM

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013

Brain damaged.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 14, 2013 at 1:58 PM

just cuz fox has strong ratings doesn’t mean it provides real news or quality programming

jerry springer had better ratings than 60 minutes

juss sayin

nonpartisan on December 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM

So by saying that, you do realize you are also pointing out that Fox and Jerry Springer will still have higher ratings than CNN, MSNBC and CNBC combined

But hey, thanks for the honesty check!

BlaxPac on December 14, 2013 at 2:00 PM

lol, just realized this article came from Zsa Zsa’s blog. And some of the comments…

STEP 1: Conservative activists introduce a lie.
STEP 2: Fox News devotes massive coverage to the story.
STEP 3: Fox attacks other outlets for ignoring the controversy.
STEP 4: Mainstream outlets begin reporting on the story.
STEP 5: Media critics, pundits praise Fox News coverage.
STEP 6: The story falls apart once the damage has been done.

Most attacks from Fox follows these six steps. The Fox Effect illustrates this phenomena and details how Fox News’ lies can be stamped

(Notice how the Unit never tells us what the “Lies” actually are?)

the downward spiral of Fox…leading to a huge implosion, as the UK Hacking Scandal turns into the US Hacking Scandal. Same owner -Rupert Murdoch’s organization…who can help but look, read and speculate now? Fox has raised their viewers up….then drops them at the corner of Deceit St and Misinformed Ave.

(Notice how the Unit never tells us what the “Lies” actually are?)

To me the war will never be over until the network is put out of business. The disinformation and hate spread by this network is unprecedented.

(Notice how the Unit never tells us what the “Lies” actually are?)

But stranger than truth, many of the Huffers are not buying this Media Matters claim of “victory”.

Del Dolemonte on December 14, 2013 at 2:35 PM

To a certain degree, it may be true. I have several FB “friends” who are retardedly leftist in their thinking. They are convinced that anything that comes from Fox is a lie. There is no amount of proof that could convince them otherwise. Unfortunately, these people are still reproducing and are also in charge of academia and thus creating further generations of leftist, tripe-eating zombies…

Big John on December 14, 2013 at 2:52 PM

To a certain degree, it may be true. I have several FB “friends” who are retardedly leftist in their thinking. They are convinced that anything that comes from Fox is a lie. There is no amount of proof that could convince them otherwise. Unfortunately, these people are still reproducing and are also in charge of academia and thus creating further generations of leftist, tripe-eating zombies…

Big John on December 14, 2013 at 2:52 PM

That’s the thing about leftists. They get their talking points, vomit their talking points to everyone they know, and never question what they’re told.
No amount of reasoning or even FACTS will dislodge the stupid.

AllahsNippleHair on December 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

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