Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on December 13, 2013 by Allahpundit

Friday evening on The Kelly File, Fox’s Megyn Kelly will address the controversy surrounding her Wednesday evening segment in which she declared that it is a “verifiable fact” that Santa Claus is white.

The segment set off all kinds of reactions, from outrage to mockery to eye-rolls to scholarly analysis.

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[C]hanging Santa does not mean we’re being “politically correct.” It means we’re expanding our perceptions of the “norm.” The argument that Santa must be white spills over into conversations about other, equally fictional characters. Can James Bond or Spider-Man be played by people of color? Why not? And yet some people will tell you—believe me—that they have to be white. Of course, some people also believe that characters who were written as people of color are not actually people of color. Which goes to show how deeply rooted the idea of “whiteness” as the default really is. And that presumption carries over into our everyday lives as well, sometimes with sad results.

I’ll be fine if no one else jumps on board the penguin train and Santa remains a white man. But if you’re seriously emphatic that he is white and must remain white, there’s a good chance that your view of the rest of the world is just as limited and unimaginative. I mean, we are talking about a magical man who slides down your chimney every Christmas Eve. Just so we’re clear.

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Nasrallah noted that although contemporary depictions of Santa Claus might often look a certain way, Santa as a character is divorced from the actual Saint Nicholas, who lived in the fourth century.’

“Saint Nicholas is born into a family that probably considered itself to be ethnically Greek but in an area of the world that we now call Turkey,” she explains. “Historically, you can’t import a category like ‘white’ into fourth century Asia minor.”

Nasrallah stresses that the historical Saint Nicholas and the contemporary Santa Claus character are not the same thing; and because the mythical Santa isn’t real, he doesn’t have a race.

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Now, it is true that—for almost two millennia—Europeans have portrayed Jesus Christ as a European. But the historical Jesus of Nazareth was a Galilean Jew who lived in Roman Palestine, or present-day Israel. In all likelihood, he was—like his disciples and contemporaries—dark-haired, dark-eyed, and olive-skinned. Indeed, early depictions show him as such, with short, close-cropped hair (the long-haired Jesus doesn’t appear in iconography until the 6th century)…

Kelly’s not wrong to say that Santa Claus is European—that’s his heritage. But there’s little chance that Jesus is white, and asserting otherwise is just as ludicrous as the declaration—made by some Christians—that Jesus spoke the early modern English of the King James Bible. At best, the assertion of Jesus’s whiteness reflects ignorance. At worst, it’s a sign of racial prejudice.

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I want to make a larger point, which might be interesting to you or may not be interesting. What I just described is Jesus. What Megan Kelly described is the Christ. And they’re different people! In other words, the Christ can be whatever you want him to be.

When you go to, for instance, the Church of the Annunciation at Nazareth. They have commissioned Christian communities from all over the world to paint a depiction of Jesus and his mother Mary. They’ve displayed all those paintings, and when you look at, for instance, the painting from the United States, what you see is a blonde and blue-eyed Jesus.

When you look at the painting from Guatemala, what you see are Jesus and Mary as migrant farm workers. I don’t mean they look like migrant farm workers I mean they are migrant farm workers. When you look at the painting from China, Jesus and Mary are Chinese, literally Chinese. When you look at the painting from Thailand, Jesus and Mary are blue, as though they are Hindu gods.

So, it’s a much more interesting issue that arises from her statement: Megyn Kelly is right. Her Christ is white.

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It is important, however, to understand how the historical Jesus — who was a Jew of Israel, born in Judea, raised in the Galilee — might have looked, and how he dressed and ate and thought and prayed, because Christians have labored for many centuries, in a not-benign way, to Europeanize, and de-Judaize, their savior’s image. This campaign was an indispensable component of the church’s age-old project to separate its savior from his faith, and to therefore turn Christianity against its mother religion…

The genetic truth, as best we know, is more complicated and interesting than Aslan suggests. Jesus might have looked like a Palestinian; he might also have looked like a Bedouin, or a Druze or a mizrachi Israeli, those Israelis descended from the Jewish communities of the greater Middle East. He might have even had the physical characteristics of Ashkenazi Jews, descendants of the Jews who found their way to Europe from the land of Israel. The reason Jesus could have looked like a member of any of these groups is simple: Today, they all share an enormous number of overlapping genetic characteristics.

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Bishop!

Corporal Tunnel on December 13, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Hey Look! Squirrel!

Corporal Tunnel on December 13, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Slow Friday?

Corporal Tunnel on December 13, 2013 at 8:36 PM

1st, 2nd, 3rd, FOURTH!

Corporal Tunnel on December 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

I’m glad they’re covering this. It’s not like anything important is happening like China acting war-like or Al Qaida apparently assuming control of the Iraqi government.

Wino on December 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Santa Claus is white, very white. Except sometimes he’s kind of red because of the cold that global warming doesn’t seem to have done a crap about. He has blue eyes and he used to have blond hair but now it’s white on account of all the ungrateful SNAP brats.

VorDaj on December 13, 2013 at 8:39 PM

I’m glad they’re covering this. It’s not like anything important is happening like China acting war-like or Al Qaida apparently assuming control of the Iraqi government.

Wino on December 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

More divisive nonsense from the MSM. Megyn Kelly should have stayed out of it, but things like this drive ratings.

Corporal Tunnel on December 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM

I’ve been above the Artic circle. I only saw white people and eskimos.

wolly4321 on December 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

My Santa is white, fat, and bald so there…

And wears biker boots and smokes ;D

Scrumpy on December 13, 2013 at 8:48 PM

If we are to get serious about all of this,,

I need to understand how the Easter Bunny(white) lays eggs.

wolly4321 on December 13, 2013 at 8:48 PM

wolly4321 on December 13, 2013 at 8:48 PM

It’s really a Platypus… :)

In wabbit disguise…

Scrumpy on December 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Evening All

LOL Scrumpy and Wolly.

CoffeeLover on December 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM

War on Whites.

Key West Reader on December 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM

I’m glad they’re covering this. It’s not like anything important is happening like China acting war-like or Al Qaida apparently assuming control of the Iraqi government.
Wino on December 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Hope this will help provide some of the misery of which you’re in need.

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Good evening CL! :)

Scrumpy on December 13, 2013 at 8:51 PM

My Santa is white, fat, and bald so there…

And wears biker boots and smokes ;D

Scrumpy on December 13, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Oh man that’s so funny.

And so begins another pants free weekend at [you know who].

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 8:51 PM

In a world and a nation wherein ‘diversity’ and ‘multiculturalism’ demands that all cultures be valued and protected ‘white culture’ should be just as sacrosanct as any other.

Hanukkah has long been celebrated in this nation. No one has suggested that the customs and traditions of this Jewish holiday be changed or altered to suit any other religion, culture, race, or ethnicity.

Not so long ago Quanza was introduced in this nation specifically because some black Americans rejected the idea of ‘white Christmas’ and all of its attendant customs. No one objected, and many applauded, the addition of a seasonal holiday from the African tradition that happened to coincide with the Christmas season.

So what’s wrong with the traditional symbols and customs of ‘white’ Christmas being maintained and honored in this nation? The majority of this nation is still ‘white’ and even if it weren’t shouldn’t ‘white’ customs be just as honored and free of forced alteration, or obliteration, as any other?

So, given all of that, what’s with the prejudice being openly displayed by some in this nation toward the customs and traditions, the culture, of others in this brave, new, multicultural and diverse nation?

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Santa is real?

Corporal Tunnel on December 13, 2013 at 8:53 PM

This should be a jolly thread.

OH Sparky
>>>>Mistletoe>>>>xxxxxx

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 8:54 PM

So what’s wrong with the traditional symbols and customs of ‘white’ Christmas being maintained and honored in this nation?

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Nothing. The multicults will just have to whine about it.

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 8:54 PM

This is a non controversy! Here is the video evidence. Judge for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Kw9VSBWNg

Rudolph’s nose may be a CGI effect but the rest is real.

BoxHead1 on December 13, 2013 at 8:54 PM

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Belinda Carlisle’s mistletoe toe has a toe fungus.

But yours doesn’t even though Axe says it does.

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Well there ya go.

Bishop on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

last!

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

There is such a thing as white culture. It there wasn’t, there would not be this endless drive to destroy it.

And no, this is not just a joke. Anything that starts to be pushed as an issue of political correctness is dangerous. Gay marriage was once not even a joke.

David Blue on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

This might qualify as a subject worth staying on the rails for a little while…Nah.

Man, waiting for a tenant to call so I can fix her lock is really cutting into my pants-less time.

cozmo on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 8:53 PM

hiya Jackie….seems this nation is only multicultural and diverse if you are not white and God forbid if you are a Christian.

CoffeeLover on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Axe is just jealous..his Britcess won’t pucker up.

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

so I can fix her lock.

cozmo on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Oh yeah sure. You want to fix more than her lock. (:

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 8:57 PM

White = Caucasian. The three main racial groups, at least when I was a wee lad, taught in a one cave schoolroom (when we weren’t dodging dinosaurs), were Caucasian, African and Asian. As historical Jesus and St. Nick aren’t either of the latter two, by default they’re in the first group.

Same for Hispanics, because the Iberian Peninsula is definitely part of Europe.

rbj on December 13, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Husband pointed out that St. Nicholas was from Turkey and Jesus was an Israeli Jew so both were…olive.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm
fa la la la la la la la la

Hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm
fa la la la la la la la la

*Decorating the tree…*:)

hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm

fa la la la la la la la la

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

oh dear…I’m chuckling :)

thanks everyone. I just came in from Pizza and Cold Stone Ice Cream. I’m stuffed. Hoping to wear off some calories from laughing….keep ‘em coming. lol

CoffeeLover on December 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Axe is just jealous..his Britcess won’t pucker up.

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

OMG, I’m howling. Bwaaahhh

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Santa is real?

Corporal Tunnel on December 13, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

MG dances while decorating tree. I behold the joy.

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM

CoffeeLover on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Good evening, CoffeeLover. :)

Indeed, and I think it’s time we begin to point out the hypocrisy of our leftist friends and insist on equal treatment under the law. ;)

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Why do we continue to try and protect you?

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Couldn’t be farther from the truth.

cozmo on December 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM

CoffeeLover on December 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

We have to get B9 a new coffee pot for Christmas. Her old one just pees on the counter top.

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Husband pointed out that St. Nicholas was from Turkey and Jesus was an Israeli Jew so both were…olive.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Seems likely.

alchemist19 on December 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Evening,J,Coz,CL and all.

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

alchemist19 :)

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

This might qualify as a subject worth staying on the rails for a little while…Nah.
cozmo on December 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

My reaction.

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Husband pointed out that St. Nicholas was from Turkey and Jesus was an Israeli Jew so both were…olive.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Have a pimento?

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Good evening, Spark. :)

Let me just slide you this large mug of hot cocoa and cognac with whipped cream and a dash of cinnamon. :)

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

cozmo on December 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM
My husband said that-not me!
*whines*

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

…olive.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Yep, you called that complexion right on the money.

cozmo on December 13, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Does Coz hang any shiny balls from his tree?

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 9:03 PM

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Good evening, B9 :) Wonderful to see you, as always. :)

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Eh, you’re just another racist. Admit it.

/Christmas is racist, too.

Key West Reader on December 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

If I catch hell for sticking my head in here (and making fun of Megyn Kelly because she’s really asking for it) then I’m holding you personally responsible. :)

alchemist19 on December 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

I will bring you gold, frakensense and mirth.

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

roflmao!

Hey B9, ALT, Spark, Cosmo et.al

Spark…now stop messing around with B9s coffee pot.

CoffeeLover on December 13, 2013 at 9:05 PM

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Because I cannot drink or toss pants, yet. That was the closest i can get to something intoxicating.

Well, this is kind of fun sober.

cozmo on December 13, 2013 at 9:05 PM

alchemist19 on December 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

lolz…deal.

Be careful..I am half Greek. ;)

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM


Pain.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Husband pointed out that St. Nicholas was from Turkey and Jesus was an Israeli Jew so both were…olive.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

The only white people I know of are Johnny and Edgar Winters.

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Pre-Christian Europe

Parallels have been drawn between the legend of Sinterklaas and the figure of Odin,[2] a major god among the Germanic peoples, who was worshipped in Northern and Western Europe prior to Christianization. Since some elements of the Sinterklaas celebration are unrelated to Christianity, there are theories regarding the pagan origins of various customs of the holiday stemming from areas where the Germanic peoples were Christianized and retained elements of their indigenous traditions, surviving in various forms into modern depictions of Sinterklaas. Non-Christian elements in Sinterklaas that arguably could have been of pagan origin:

Sinterklaas rides the rooftops on his white horse which has various names; Odin rides the sky with his grey horse Sleipnir.
Sinterklaas gives chocolate letters to children, like Odin gave the rune letters to man.
Sinterklaas carries a staff and has mischievous helpers with black faces, who listen at chimneys to find out whether children are bad or good and report to Sinterklaas; Odin has a spear and his black ravens, Huginn and Muninn, who report what happens in the world to Odin.[3]

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM

well now, a multi cultural Santa…

He will have asian eyes, an arabic nose, a smiley mouth, black curly
hair, snow white beard, be 6 ft tall with a beer belly and really skinny legs, small feet, and be brown with lily white body :)

Scrumpy on December 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM

cozmo on December 13, 2013 at 9:03 PM

*rolls eyes*

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Santa is white, but he’s ready for the hood…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La7n8-b3V7Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

wolly4321 on December 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM

The only white people I know of are Johnny and Edgar Winters.

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Wow. Nordic.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 13, 2013 at 9:08 PM

/Christmas is racist, too.

Key West Reader on December 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Especially, the White Christmas. Elvis taught us to celebrate diversity with “Blue Christmas”. He was the King of diversity, y’know.

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 9:08 PM

my fave Christmas song

The First Noel

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:09 PM

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Ha! My boss is Turkish by way of Greece so I know what I’m in for.

And, hey, he could apparently also pass for Santa!

alchemist19 on December 13, 2013 at 9:09 PM

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Well said, and I agree.

Corporal Tunnel on December 13, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Isn’t white the sum of all colors?

meci on December 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Well, just heard Megyn’s response to Santa firestorm. She made me laugh. The woman has hit the bigtime….bucco ratings, The Tonight Show and lots of critics.

CoffeeLover on December 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

wolly4321 on December 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Good stance Santa.

cozmo on December 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Evening Jackie. So youtube now thinks I like your favourite band … but they do an awful lot of covers. Angie, for example.

gh on December 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Well, this is kind of fun sober.

cozmo on December 13, 2013 at 9:05 PM

I remember when you shared that awhile back, had to get the song!

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Thank you so much, my friend. :)

You and I can spend that gold together on a night of mischief making, and I’ll take all the mirth I can get.

But I think Franken needs what little sense he’s got … so maybe we should just let him keep it. ;)

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

alchemist19 on December 13, 2013 at 9:09 PM

I wont tell you what the old generation in the fam
thought of the Turks then. ;)

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:11 PM

As for Jesus, stands to reason he is of an Olive complexion…

Scrumpy on December 13, 2013 at 9:12 PM

gh on December 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Good evening, gh. :)

It’s not my favorite band… just one of many that I like… or find useful. ;)

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Well, just heard Megyn’s response to Santa firestorm. She made me laugh. The woman has hit the bigtime….bucco ratings, The Tonight Show and lots of critics.

CoffeeLover on December 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Car wrecks draw a lot of attention. Just because a lot of people are looking it doesn’t mean the spectacle is any good.

alchemist19 on December 13, 2013 at 9:13 PM

meci on December 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Good evening, meci. :) Indeed, it is. Good observation.

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:14 PM

OK, now that Santa Claus’ race has been decided, what about the elves? Why would arguably the symbol for one of the most religious of Christian holidays have helpers who are all Ginger, and therefore had no souls?

Wino on December 13, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Might Get Fooled Again

gh on December 13, 2013 at 9:16 PM

What about Frosty? Well he does have black eyes…..

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:16 PM

OK, now that Santa Claus’ race has been decided, what about the elves? Why would arguably the symbol for one of the most religious of Christian holidays have helpers who are all Ginger, and therefore had no souls?

Wino on December 13, 2013 at 9:14 PM

LOL!

If she plays that angle she might get the libs on her side after all.

alchemist19 on December 13, 2013 at 9:16 PM

[C]hanging Santa does not mean we’re being “politically correct.” It means we’re expanding our perceptions of the “norm.”

Postmodernism.

davidk on December 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

lol B9

the next thing is they’ll try to convince me Casper the Friendly Ghost is not white too.

CoffeeLover on December 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

my fave Christmas song

The First Noel

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:09 PM

That’s a good classic. My fave traditional carol -
Coventry Carol.

Lully, lullay, thou little tiny child,
bye, bye, lully lullay.

O sisters too, how may we do,
for to preserve this day,
this poor youngling for whom we sing,
bye, bye lully lullay.

Herod the king in his raging,
charged he hath this day,
his men of night, in his own sight,
all young children to slay.

Then woe is me, poor child, for thee!
And every morn and day,
for thy parting not say nor sing
bye, bye, lully lullay.

Lully, lullay, thou little tiny child,
bye, bye, lully lullay.

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

This is really stupid.

Punchenko on December 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

“Modern Christmas elves find their origin in the House Gnomes of the Scandinavia present since the pagan times. It was believed that these gnomes guarded homes against evil and were benevolent and helpful to good people. However, they could be quite nasty to people who were rude to them or had been naughty and then, they are even depicted as trolls and cannibals.

Thus, for centuries, they were both loved and loathed. In the mid-1800s, Scandinavian writers such as Zacharias Topelius, and Viktor Rydberg transformed the image of these gnomes to Christmas elves that were almost like mischievous fairies but were good at heart. In keeping with the popularization of Christmas, they were depicted as true friends and helpers of Father Christmas or Santa Claus. Artists such as Jenny Eugenia Nyström painted Santa’s elves in their present forms.”

Scrumpy on December 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Santa used to be portrayed smoking a pipe, too, until that “fact” became non-PC.

Meh, the whole issue is a distraction, silly as the buffoons who are making a big deal about it.

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2013 at 9:18 PM

For angrymike,

Santa Baby

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 9:18 PM

St. Nicholas was Greek.

Santa Claus is Nordic.

Jesus was Jewish on his mother’s side.

Palestine is a Roman term that includes most of Syria as well as Israel and is not indigenous to the region…The Romans called the land of Israel Judea to differentiate it from Syria.

workingclass artist on December 13, 2013 at 9:18 PM

CoffeeLover on December 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

he isn’t white ;P

Scrumpy on December 13, 2013 at 9:19 PM

what about the elves?
Wino on December 13, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Zombies. To be inclusive of AP.

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Postmodernism.

davidk on December 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

In literature postmodernism generally means at the end of the novel no one gets out unscathed.

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Very lovely.

bazil9 on December 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Friday evening on The Kelly File, Fox’s Megyn Kelly will address the controversy surrounding her Wednesday evening segment in which she declared that it is a “verifiable fact” that Santa Claus is white.

Yes, by all means, since China is developing their military, millions of American’s who had insurance that was cancelled can’t afford the replacement policy, about 90 million more Ameican’s have the same “surprise” coming the way, and our new budget does zip to control spending.

Megyn Kelly thinks Santa Claus is white… stop the world and let me off…

Hog Wild on December 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

I agree. (:

Thanks for letting me and B9 shack up in the pool house.

She has a cute bottom too.

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 9:22 PM

SparkPlug on December 13, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Most welcome, Spark.:) I believe in love.

thatsafactjack on December 13, 2013 at 9:22 PM

A Jolly British Father Christmas

http://tinyurl.com/ljfny4y

Scrumpy on December 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Friday evening on The Kelly File, Fox’s Megyn Kelly will address the controversy surrounding her Wednesday evening segment in which she declared that it is a “verifiable fact” that Santa Claus is white.

Did she already talk about in the first segment?

whatcat on December 13, 2013 at 9:24 PM

as for Jesus, stands to reason he is of an Olive complexion… Scrumpy on December 13, 2013 at 9:12 PM

We’re talking about Christmas, and Santa.

Oh wait.. Christ-mas. Not Santa-mas?

All I know is the malls are no fun to drive past. Kamikazi drivers.

wolly4321 on December 13, 2013 at 9:24 PM

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