Open thread: House to vote on Boehner/Ryan budget deal soon; Update: 332-94; Update: Boehner votes yes

posted at 5:05 pm on December 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

Stupid me, I thought there was a tiny chance that the grassroots backlash to the bill early yesterday would make today’s vote a cliffhanger. Nope:

After conducting a series of closed-door briefings and polling members during a late-afternoon vote, GOP leadership aides confidently predicted that the deal struck between House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Budget Committee Chairman Patty Murray (D-Wash.) would sail through the House when it comes to a vote Thursday.

The moment seemed to mark a potentially significant shift by House Republicans away from the uncompromising confrontation of recent years and toward a determined era of more functional governance. After multiple standoffs and threatened defaults and one actual shutdown, polls show that the Republican brand has been badly damaged among voters, and even some of the most conservative Republicans said they were ready for a breather.

“That’s the only reason” to vote for the budget deal — “to calm things down,” said Rep. Cynthia M. Lummis (R-Wyo.), who said she was undecided about the measure. “To reset the debate is a great way to describe it.”

That’s one of the mysteries of today’s vote: Is it a harbinger of a more sustained turn towards centrism or a low-stakes sui generis vote to get out of town before Christmas? The other mystery is how many Republicans will end up voting for it. Pelosi’s backing the bill on the theory that it’s time to — no joke — “embrace the suck,” which is as solid a motto for American government in the age of Hopenchange that you’ll ever hear. But the fact that House Democrats are on board doesn’t mean a majority of the GOP caucus will go along. Will they, or is this yet another violation of the Hastert Rule? The answer:

I’ll update with a link to the roll as soon as it’s up. While we wait, read Erick Erickson speculating that Boehner’s throwing roundhouses now at conservative PACs in order to prepare the ground for the new amnesty push to come next year. That is indeed coming, no doubt, but I don’t see how it benefits him or the centrists to take an “us vs. them” posture with righties before the primaries. Better to lie low for now, be conciliatory (“yeah, this deal’s bad, but things’ll be different in 2015″), and then sandbag border hawks with an amnesty deal after primary season is over. All he’s doing by ramming a bad budget deal down their throats now is giving them extra motivation to seek revenge. And there’d be no sweeter revenge than thwarting a sellout on amnesty.

Update: A big win for Boehner and Ryan. The vast majority of the caucus hung with them.

No roll yet, but it’s coming.

Update: As promised, here’s the roll.

Update: Good catch. Typically the Speaker doesn’t vote unless his/her vote is absolutely necessary.


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Thanks, you jerk, now I’ll have to wear a weight belt before taking calls from the GOP asking for money so that when I laugh uncontrollably I hopefully won’t get a hernia.

I used to be on their Prime Mover list, those days are over.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 6:32 PM

The more-technologically-savvy among us will be setting up a special voicemail for those calls.

Hi. You’ve reached the voicemail of Bishop. I’m sorry, but I’m busy financing your replacement. If you’re hard up for money, call George Soros at 1-800-F1UCK-YO.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 6:39 PM

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Reuters Politics ‏@ReutersPolitics 7m

Why Representative Hoyer, a Democrat from Maryland, voted no: http://live.reuters.com/Event/Politics/99709387 … by @resnikoff

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:39 PM

So, facilitating two more shutdowns, (just enough to take the OCare implosion off the table) and giving up a probable Senate take-over, re-gaining both branches of the legislature, forcing Obama and his liberal agenda to come to a complete halt, is not more important as forcing an ideology (though sincere), to make a point about a phobia?

Rovin on December 12, 2013 at 6:35 PM

I wouldn’t know. Republicans cringe at the merest mention of a shutdown (during which, I might add, over 80% of government services effectively functioned) like a two-year-old in a big-boy bed cringing at the thought of monsters in his closet.

You insist on confusing the words “Republican” and “conservative.” The two are not the same. The objective of the GOP right now is indeed to prevent a shutdown. The moral imperative they should be operating under is to return us to constitutional government. Any chance of that actually happening is roughly equal to the chance of a skittles-shitting unicorn buzzing the main control tower at O’Hare.

The time for political calculus is done. Long-since over. We are staring down an existential crisis, the outcome of which will determine if anything can be salvaged from the corrupt cesspool of American politics. And I guaran-damn-tee you, whatever can be salvaged won’t come from the Republican party.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Fewk you, Boehner. I sat out Mitt. I’ll sit out any non-Tea Party, now. Either you’re with us, or you’re against us.

Boehner is against the US.

Wino on December 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

The Associated Press ‏@AP 7m

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BREAKING: House easily passes bipartisan budget easing spending cuts to Pentagon, domestic agencies.

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

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Reuters Politics ‏@ReutersPolitics 1m

U.S. House of Representatives passes bill authorizing $633 billion in defense spending for 2014; Senate vote likely next week

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Purist is the new raaaaacist. Sad to see ‘our’ side stoop to this kind of crap.

ElectricPhase on December 12, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Do not f***ing play the victim card… It is the purists who keep on attacking everyone who does not agree with them on everything and call them all type of names under the sun… The purists are mostly internet bloggers and few radio talk show listeners… They are very loud but they are very few in numbers to make any difference…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

US budget negotiations 2013
2m
Of the members who voted, a larger percentage of Democratic Caucus (84%) voted for the budget deal than the GOP Conference (73%) – @frankthorpNBC
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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Do not f***ing play the victim card… It is the purists who keep on attacking everyone who does not agree with them on everything and call them all type of names under the sun… The purists are mostly internet bloggers and few radio talk show listeners… They are very loud but they are very few in numbers to make any difference…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Translation: Don’t play the victim card. It really is all your fault, purists.

I submit to you someone who is glad to be lied to if they lies come from Republicans.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Do not f***ing play the victim card… It is the purists who keep on attacking everyone who does not agree with them on everything and call them all type of names under the sun… The purists are mostly internet bloggers and few radio talk show listeners… They are very loud but they are very few in numbers to make any difference…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Quit the projectionist bull. But at least you outed yourself as a Socialist tool, so there’s that.

Myron Falwell on December 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Yup. That’s why Romeny won… what’s that u say?

katy the mean old lady on December 12, 2013 at 6:17 PM

In fact Romney won more actual votes than any other Republican nominee before him but Obama won more votes… Romney did not lose because a bunch of nobody purists sat home… He lost because Obama was able to get more of his parasite base to vote…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Damnit I hate them all. All of em. Every single rep and senator in DC needs to be ousted. Start over.

Ca97 on December 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM

In fact Romney won more actual votes than any other Republican nominee before him but Obama won more votes… Romney did not lose because a bunch of nobody purists sat home… He lost because Obama was able to get more of his parasite base to vote…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Translation: Obama won, and I desperately want to believe that Romney didn’t piss it right down his leg even though that’s precisely what happened.

I submit to you someone who’s okay with his guy losing as long as there’s some sort of historical precedent he can console himself with.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Quit the projectionist bull. But at least you outed yourself as a Socialist tool, so there’s that.

Myron Falwell on December 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM

You outed yourself as a purist fool… Everyone who disagree with a bunch of angry internet purist bloggers is now a socialist… So according to you the super majority of Republicans who voted for this deal are socialists but only 62 a of them are not socialists…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Damnit I hate them all. All of em. Every single rep and senator in DC needs to be ousted. Start over.

Ca97 on December 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Start with nullification, friend. Politicians are the problem. We won’t solve the problem by tossing a few more into the cesspool every 4-6 years.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM

You outed yourself as a purist fool… Everyone who disagree with a bunch of angry internet purist bloggers is now a socialist… So according to you the super majority of Republicans who voted for this deal are socialists but only 62 a of them are not socialists…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM

You say that as though it’s ridiculous and beyond the pale. It looks pretty accurate to me. Douchebag.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:47 PM

ROLL CALL:

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 641
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)

H RES 441 2/3 YEA-AND-NAY 12-Dec-2013 6:36 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Agree
BILL TITLE: Providing for concurrence by the House in the Senate amendments to H.R. 3304, with an amendment

—- YEAS 350 —

—- NAYS 69 —

—- NOT VOTING 13 —
===============================

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll641.xml

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/index.asp

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:47 PM

BREAKING: House easily passes bipartisan budget easing spending cuts to Pentagon, domestic agencies.

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

And in order for our side to get the Pentagon spending cuts eased we had to agree to ease spending cuts on domestic crap… It is that simple and there is no other way to do it…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:48 PM

And in order for our side to get the Pentagon spending cuts eased we had to agree to ease spending cuts on domestic crap… It is that simple and there is no other way to do it…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Translation: I know it’s not a Hobson’s choice, but I’m going to pretend it is so I can sleep at night.

I give you a voter who embraces false dichotomies when used by Republicans as campaign slogans.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:50 PM

ROFL. the new polltested language is out.

PURIST!

We all be like Hester Prynne with a scarlet p on our chests.

Murphy9 on December 12, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Disgrace.

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 6:50 PM

they’re gonna screw us on Amnesty by Easter…

then I am gonna screw them in November.

Straight ticket D it shall be.

harlekwin15 on December 12, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Republicans are going to lose in 2014 and lose big.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:51 PM

they’re gonna screw us on Amnesty by Easter…

then I am gonna screw them in November.

Straight ticket D it shall be.

harlekwin15 on December 12, 2013 at 6:51 PM

I don’t endorse this, but I can’t stop it.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:52 PM

ROFL. the new polltested language is out.

PURIST!

We all be like Hester Prynne with a scarlet p on our chests.

Murphy9 on December 12, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Purist has been used for decades, nothing new under the sun… It is much older than the word RINO…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:52 PM

EVERY tax hike now needs a simple majority, there is no longer a US Senate there is a second house of Representatives.

The Constitution is a joke.

harlekwin15 on December 12, 2013 at 6:52 PM

ROFL. the new polltested language is out.

PURIST!

We all be like Hester Prynne with a scarlet p on our chests.

Murphy9 on December 12, 2013 at 6:50 PM

The statists move from one strawman to another. They simply cannot debate their actually policy positions because they are so horrible.

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 6:53 PM

No matter whats in the budget, I think this is a good long term move. Better not to give journalists Rs hate poors/gay/minority/teachers/women fodder to distract from the abysmal failure of ACA. Smile, play nice; then take them to the cleaners in November.

ahatfield on December 12, 2013 at 6:53 PM

of course…

Murphy9 on December 12, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Most of these people in the GOP don’t give a damn what we think. And why should they? What’s the worst that can possibly happen to them? At most, they may not get re-elected. But chances are good they will.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Why even go through the motions of pretending there is an opposition party or a desire to stop this new “King”?

Barky Choom just deemed everyone in the US covered today…

I hate him with the fury of the Yellowstone Caldera’s magma but you know who I hate more?

A House GOP that refuses to call a spade a spade and a tyrant a tyrant.

harlekwin15 on December 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Purist has been used for decades, nothing new under the sun… It is much older than the word RINO…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Translation: I’d rather go with the devil I know than the devil I don’t.

I submit to you someone who wants to maintain the status quo no matter how destructive it proves to be.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Republicans are going to lose in 2014 and lose big.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:51 PM

No they are not… A bunch of angry nobody bloggers on the internet are going to have zero effect one way or another… You are much smaller in number than your delusional mind think…

Even on this forum there are probably thousands of registered members but yet the activists who post daily are less than 500 and the 500 think that their opinion is the opinion of the majority…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

D*mmitt, wrong Roll Call:
==========================

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 640
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)

H J RES 59 RECORDED VOTE 12-Dec-2013 6:25 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Recede and Concur in the Senate Amendment with Amendment
BILL TITLE: Making continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes
=======================

—- AYES 332 —

—- NOES 94 —

—- NOT VOTING 7 —
=========================

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll640.xml

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll640.xml

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

So let’s summarize the H/A majority opinion.

1. There are, at most, only 94 real Republicans left in the house.
2. Paul Ryan isn’t one of them. In fact he’s Karl Marx with horn.
3. The smaller our tent becomes the more elections we will win.

Go team!

MJBrutus on December 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Purist has been used for decades, nothing new under the sun… It is much older than the word RINO…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Which demonstrates your war on conservatives has been going on a lot longer than our war on liberal Republicans.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Most of these people in the GOP don’t give a damn what we think. And why should they? What’s the worst that can possibly happen to them? At most, they may not get re-elected. But chances are good they will.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM

That is because you are only a member of extremely insignificant super tiny minority blogging on the internet… You are loud but you are nobody when it comes to electoral winning…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:57 PM

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Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree 6m

Full vote details on budget deal at http://1.usa.gov/1h4yr0a
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Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree 12m

House has approved the defense authorization bill worked out by House & Senate – 350-69

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:57 PM

My Rep voted Aye… :(

ladyingray on December 12, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Which demonstrates your war on conservatives has been going on a lot longer than our war on liberal Republicans.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Even Reagan had it with the purists…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Do not f***ing play the victim card… It is the purists who keep on attacking everyone who does not agree with them on everything and call them all type of names under the sun… The purists are mostly internet bloggers and few radio talk show listeners… They are very loud but they are very few in numbers to make any difference…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

…and here comes the Romney fluffer playbook again. This is a re-run–and not a very interesting one at that. You are the loudmouth bully, and we’re onto you this time.

So we’ve all watched the Dems buy their votes openly and unashamedly. I’m starting to think they have a point.

Listen up GOP. From now on, my vote/donations are for sale. I accept only two currencies–lower taxes and decreased spending. Balls in your court.

ElectricPhase on December 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM

No they are not… A bunch of angry nobody bloggers on the internet are going to have zero effect one way or another… You are much smaller in number than your delusional mind think…

Even on this forum there are probably thousands of registered members but yet the activists who post daily are less than 500 and the 500 think that their opinion is the opinion of the majority…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

We had the most miniscule possible cut we could have gotten in the form of the Sequester, unfairly focused on the military my wife serves in and we have now ceded even that.

Barack Obama rules by imperial edict, the House GOP refuses to punish Reid for packing the DC court with radicals…

they pass amnesty I will spend the rest of my voting life destroying the weak sisters and speeding communism on its way here so we can get the cards on the table while I am young enough to recover or run like hell.

harlekwin15 on December 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM

No they are not… A bunch of angry nobody bloggers on the internet are going to have zero effect one way or another… You are much smaller in number than your delusional mind think…

They’re not going to lose to a bunch of angry bloggers. They’re going to lose because they’re progressive to their very core. I absolutely agree that my influence in the political arena is very limited, but the voters will notice. And there will be severe backlash against the kind of condescension you spew when it comes from GOP politicians.

Even on this forum there are probably thousands of registered members but yet the activists who post daily are less than 500 and the 500 think that their opinion is the opinion of the majority…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

I’ve never even really believed that any blog’s commentariat is a reflection of society writ-large. But keep flogging that straw man and see where it gets you, douchebag.

gryphon202 on December 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM

No they are not… A bunch of angry nobody bloggers on the internet are going to have zero effect one way or another… You are much smaller in number than your delusional mind think…

Even on this forum there are probably thousands of registered members but yet the activists who post daily are less than 500 and the 500 think that their opinion is the opinion of the majority…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Which explains why you’re here to try to keep us down. Are you getting paid by the comment?

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 6:59 PM

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Most of these people in the GOP don’t give a damn what we think. And why should they? What’s the worst that can possibly happen to them? At most, they may not get re-elected. But chances are good they will.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Actually, if they don’t get elected for being a statist and sticking their thumb in their constituents eyes, they will be glorified and land a lucrative lobbying job. So, not getting re-elected would probably be preferable to them.

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:00 PM

UGH:

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Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree 39s

The only 3 “No” votes from Georgia’s delegation on the deal were the 3 GOP lawmakers running for US Senate

https://twitter.com/jamiedupree

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Even Reagan had it with the purists…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM

He had it more with people who thought that the government was “here to help.”

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Even Reagan had it with the purists…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM

So are you going to go back to the Rats before or after your leaders do so?

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Even Reagan had it with the purists…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Or am I wrong in assuming you are not already a card-carrying Rat?

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM

I guess Boehner has to pass it before we can find out what’s in it?

SOSDD

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM

UGH,..Part Deux:

US budget negotiations 2013
2m
President Obama: The House vote passing the bipartisan budget agreement ‘represents a positive step forward for the nation and our economy’ – @markknoller
read more on twitter.com
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https://twitter.com/markknoller

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM

That is because you are only a member of extremely insignificant super tiny minority blogging on the internet… You are loud but you are nobody when it comes to electoral winning…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:57 PM

And, who are you?

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM

I’m fine with a sequester delay for a couple reasons:

1) Will it be delayed further? Maybe, but only with concessions at every step. This time the concession was a long term normal order budget. If we’re honest, the budget fights hurt us. The Dems know that the population will blame the Tea Party for shutdowns, so they shutdown the government to leverage us. It hurts the country, of course, but they don’t care. This deal removes that threat until we get a chance to take the Senate.

2) Honestly, the military could use some money right now. Read J.E. Dyer about our military options in Iran:

http://theoptimisticconservative.wordpress.com/2013/09/01/rock-hard-place-syria/

It’s clear she thinks that the sequester is hurting our ability to strike if we have to. The mullahs know this too. This is a legitimate, constitutional role for the federal government and I’m for funding it.

xuyee on December 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM

hey Mr. Aderholt. I’ll be calling in to 570 in the morning. SHould be a very interesting discussion…

And Mr. Boehner. I sent you a very nice compassionate letter after you broke down like a baby on award of the Speakership.

I take it back. Every word.

These are very interesting times. Clint was right. “The biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the United States”.

seesalrun2 on December 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM

I guess Boehner has to pass it before we can find out what’s in it?

SOSDD

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Okay – voting on it before you read it.

Not okay – criticizing it before you read it.

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Which explains why you’re here to try to keep us down. Are you getting paid by the comment?

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 6:59 PM

You got me Steve. The evil GOP-E is paying me for each comment I make(extreme sarcasm).

I am still waiting for your thread asking people on this forum who do not get their “pure candidate” as the nominee to stay home on elections day 2014…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 7:05 PM

It’s clear she thinks that the sequester is hurting our ability to strike if we have to. The mullahs know this too. This is a legitimate, constitutional role for the federal government and I’m for funding it.

xuyee on December 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM

My wife is active duty, we saved up two months pay for the next shutdown.

We just normalized Ogabe’s Porkulous spending levels which was the main drive behind Reid not passing a normal order budget.

We ceded the table.

With a GOP this studly I look forward to their 145 seat future.

harlekwin15 on December 12, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Being rolled by the democrats is so much better than a government shutdown!
The Rats are now onto why the republicans hate unemployed people and after that, the powers that grab ankles will give us amnesty.
So glad there’s two choices in government. /s

AllahsNippleHair on December 12, 2013 at 7:06 PM

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:57 PM

And, who are you?

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM

My guess is John McVain. Sure sounds angry and condescending enough!

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 7:06 PM

I missed the vote but I see the headline says we have a budget deal. That means a balanced budget right? Because anything else would be treason and I know the congress would never betray the country. Right?

kcewa on December 12, 2013 at 7:07 PM

You are loud but you are nobody when it comes to electoral winning…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Is electoral winning the means to something, or is it the end itself? The GOP sure acts like their power is the end, not the means to moving this country in the right direction. They’ve spent years earning the distrust of their constituents. Now the chickens are coming home to roost. It’s not the activists fault for recognizing that the Republicans are two bit liars. It’s the Republicans’ fault that they’re two bit liars. Give a Republican an inch, they take a mile. Is it any wonder that some are now unwilling to give an inch?

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Okay – voting on it before you read it.

Not okay – criticizing it before you read it.

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Big Brother Boehner knows best!

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Or am I wrong in assuming you are not already a card-carrying Rat?

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM

You got me again… LOL… You are fulfilling your duty as a purist… Anyone who does not agree with you on everything is f***ing liberal…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM

xuyee on December 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Honestly, I think that our military could go on a major diet! The proportion of dollars spent staffers and administrators in proportion to the amount going to weapons systems and actual warriors would be shocking to most people if they knew. Unfortunately, the GOP is as guilty of using the military as a pork barrel and jobs program as the Donkeys are in using social or green energy programs. Same game, different departments.

MJBrutus on December 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM

And, who are you?
besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Paid troll.

Skywise on December 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM

And in order for our side to get the Pentagon spending cuts eased we had to agree to ease spending cuts on domestic crap… It is that simple and there is no other way to do it…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:48 PM

The fact that the Pentagon is the one doing the wasteful spending doesn’t change the fact that it’s wasteful.

Stupid child. You think holding an organization with the history of corruption and stupidity that the DOD has hostage is going to stop us? CUTS NOW!

Teater. You suck on the government teat, don’t you?

northdallasthirty on December 12, 2013 at 7:09 PM

332-94

“Embrace the Suck”

ITguy on December 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM

My critter was a no.
I shall remember.

bazil9 on December 12, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Deal to quell U.S. budget wars sails through House vote

By David Lawder and Richard Cowan
WASHINGTON Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:03pm EST
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(Reuters) – A breakthrough budget deal that avoids a government shutdown in January and blunts automatic spending cuts easily won passage in the U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday, setting the stage for nearly two years of fiscal peace in Congress.

The 332-94 bipartisan vote sends the measure to the Senate, which is expected to pass it next week despite the objections of conservative political groups that complain it violates a core goal of cutting government spending.
(More….)
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/13/us-usa-fiscal-idUSBRE9BA0WN20131213?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=992637

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 7:11 PM

they’re gonna screw us on Amnesty by Easter…

then I am gonna screw them in November.

Straight ticket D it shall be.

harlekwin15 on December 12, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Me too. It’s time to get this over with. They’ve won and now they must govern, and I don’t believe they can.

DFCtomm on December 12, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Have I mentioned lately that I still hate these sellout congresscritters–Dem and Repub alike–with the white-hot heat of a thousand suns?

On the Republican side, there is very little actual representation of the electorate going on any more. They are only in it for either power, money, or out of fear of the media.

Where are the people with principles in our country? Why is it so much to ask members of what I once considered my own party to vote for government to get off my back and let me live in freedom and peace?

theotherone on December 12, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Paul Ryan has been in congress for 8 years, and only put his name on 2 bills in that time:

1. Renaming a Post office

2. Creating an excise Tax on Arrows.

That’s it.

This wonder whiz of the GOP world hasn’t done jack shiit.

portlandon on December 12, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Or am I wrong in assuming you are not already a card-carrying Rat?

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM

You got me again… LOL… You are fulfilling your duty as a purist… Anyone who does not agree with you on everything is f***ing liberal…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Anybody who doesn’t agree with you us, what was that again, a nobody when it comes to electoral winning.
You and Brutus enjoy your shit sandwiches. Don’t forget to tip Ryan.

AllahsNippleHair on December 12, 2013 at 7:12 PM

I am still waiting for your thread asking people on this forum who do not get their “pure candidate” as the nominee to stay home on elections day 2014…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Works for me. Since all you and your nominee will do is roll over and cave to the Progs, there’s no point in voting for you; that way, we’ll have the same Prog policies you would have implemented PLUS the satisfaction of seeing your sorry rears out in the street and out of power.

northdallasthirty on December 12, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Well, the 2014 Elections might be a wee bit more interesting, after this Stinko!!!

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 7:13 PM

I am still waiting for your thread asking people on this forum who do not get their “pure candidate” as the nominee to stay home on elections day 2014…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Pretty much nobody is demanding a “pure candidate.” The only person you agree with on everything is yourself. Your insistence on repeating a strawman over and over and over again, rather than offering substantive argument, is pathetic.

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:13 PM

ok not fraud. I was paraphrasing. My apologies to Mr. Eastwood.

“President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people,” Eastwood told The Pine Cone this week. “Romney and Ryan would do a much better job running the country, and that’s what everybody needs to know. I may have irritated a lot of the lefties, but I was aiming for people in the middle.”

here is the link. PINE CONE

the only interview I can find of substance since the empty chair…

seesalrun2 on December 12, 2013 at 7:13 PM

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 7:05 PM

You may be right about the minority thing judging by recent presidential elections and the fact that Republicans like McCain and Boehner are still in office.

But I’m not getting the “purity” thing? These key GOP Congress critters are doing whatever the Dems want them to do, so what’s the difference? What’s the point of voting for a Republican if they have the political values of a Democrat, just to have another guy up there with an R after his name?

We have a whole bunch of Rs up there. They need to let the Ds own this legislated thievery and take the bad PR hits about being “obstructionists” and all the rest of that Leftist propaganda (which does seem to work by the way).

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 12, 2013 at 7:13 PM

LOL, the GOP just *thinks* conservatives stayed home in 2008 and 2012.

They’ve seen *nothing* yet.

Think Obamacare is going to cost the Dems dearly in the next election or two?

It might have. But it will pale in comparison to the votes the GOP will *not* get because of actions like today – and amnesty, which is on it’s heels.

And they will weep and gnash their teeth afterwards wondering where it all went wrong.

I’m kind of enjoying this at this point. It’s both infuriating in a ‘i may stroke out’ way, but also delectable in a ‘oh, the schadenfreude is going to be insanely wonderful when they get their surprised a$$es handed to them’ way.

Right now, I want them to suffer more than I want the Democrats to suffer. I want more harm to come to these treacherous bastards than I want to see visited on the Democrats. I hope they suffer it personally, financially, and painfully.

Not only will I not be voting for Republicans, I’m of a mind right now that I will work *very*, *very* hard to help see that Republicans are defeated, from this moment on.

Midas on December 12, 2013 at 7:15 PM

You got me again… LOL… You are fulfilling your duty as a purist… Anyone who does not agree with you on everything is f***ing liberal…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM

And you are doing your duty as a liberal Republican troll (an anonymous one, at that) by deriding everyone who expects the Republicans to be any different than the Democrats, much less live up to their party platform, as “purists”.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Unfortunately, the GOP is as guilty of using the military as a pork barrel and jobs program as the Donkeys are in using social or green energy programs. Same game, different departments.

MJBrutus on December 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Welcome to the dark side. But, if anyone else had said this, you would have surely flamed them.

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Paul Ryan has been in congress for 8 14 years, and only put his name on 2 bills in that time:

1. Renaming a Post office

2. Creating an excise Tax on Arrows.

That’s it.

This wonder whiz of the GOP world hasn’t done jack shiit.

portlandon on December 12, 2013 at 7:12 PM

portlandon on December 12, 2013 at 7:16 PM

So let’s summarize the H/A majority opinion.

1. There are, at most, only 94 real Republicans left in the house.
2. Paul Ryan isn’t one of them. In fact he’s Karl Marx with horn.
3. The smaller our tent becomes the more elections we will win.

Go team!

MJBrutus on December 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

hahaha. Classic.

This popcorn is delicious!

lostmotherland on December 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:15 PM

OK, that wins the most ridiculous thing I’ve read in a very long time prize.

MJBrutus on December 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Ryan on GOP Critics of Budget Deal: Sorry, Elections Have Consequences

Published on Dec 12, 2013
*************************

Rep Ryan defended moments ago his bipartisan budget deal up for a vote in the house, telling Republicans “elections have consequences.”

We wanted President Obama to be defeated in 2012 but fell short of it, he explained.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-5UbGBwBo

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

You outed yourself as a purist fool… Everyone who disagree with a bunch of angry internet purist bloggers is now a socialist… So according to you the super majority of Republicans who voted for this deal are socialists but only 62 a of them are not socialists…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Somebody call the WAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE.

That you express outrage at an obvious truth means that you, the Socialist troll, got caught, and it hurts that you got caught.

Myron Falwell on December 12, 2013 at 7:20 PM

hahaha. Classic.

This popcorn is delicious!

lostmotherland on December 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

lostmotherload:Why aren’t you at Pelosi’ Party!!
================================================

“embrace the suck”

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 7:20 PM

OK, that wins the most ridiculous thing I’ve read in a very long time prize.

MJBrutus on December 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Ah yes, well, let me put it to you another way. The GOP and Democrats are both statists, who use the power of the state to empower themselves and hand out goodies to their favored constituents. Neither want to shrink the power of the government, their arguments are over who should receive government largess.

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 7:20 PM

So let’s summarize the H/A majority opinion.

1. There are, at most, only 94 real Republicans left in the house.
2. Paul Ryan isn’t one of them. In fact he’s Karl Marx with horn.
3. The smaller our tent becomes the more elections we will win.

Go team!

MJBrutus on December 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

hahaha. Classic.

This popcorn is delicious!

lostmotherland on December 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

This is like soiled diaper Harry Reid cheering on Boehner for going after conservatives!

AllahsNippleHair on December 12, 2013 at 7:21 PM

And you are doing your duty as a liberal Republican troll (an anonymous one, at that) by deriding everyone who expects the Republicans to be any different than the Democrats, much less live up to their party platform, as “purists”.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 7:15 PM

I am more conservative than you but I am also realist… You simply cannot win a budget fight by controlling the House alone… It is impossible… Live with reality…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Ryan on GOP Critics of Budget Deal: Sorry, Elections Have Consequences

Published on Dec 12, 2013
*************************

Rep Ryan defended moments ago his bipartisan budget deal up for a vote in the house, telling Republicans “elections have consequences.”

We wanted President Obama to be defeated in 2012 but fell short of it, he explained.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-5UbGBwBo

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

In other words, “Fluke you America, I’m joining the Dems. Hell, I was never a conservative, the election told me so.”

Sounds about right.

Myron Falwell on December 12, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Just imagine how much the democrats would’ve compromised if Romney had won.

/

SouthernGent on December 12, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Ryan on GOP Critics of Budget Deal: Sorry, Elections Have Consequences
Published on Dec 12, 2013
*************************
Rep Ryan defended moments ago his bipartisan budget deal up for a vote in the house, telling Republicans “elections have consequences.”
We wanted President Obama to be defeated in 2012 but fell short of it, he explained.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-5UbGBwBo

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

So we should be punished for your failings?

BS. When the Democrats lost all 3 houses they fought back tooth and nail with everyday trick in the book.

We give you an opening with the house and you capitulate because you people cannot or will not LEAD. Fine – go play pattycake with Obama. It’s obvious the GOP is nothing more than a rubber stamp for the DNC.

Ill spend my votes elsewhere.

Skywise on December 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

ROFL

That’s Biden-level stupid of him.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM

I am more conservative than you but I am also realist… You simply cannot win a budget fight by controlling the House alone… It is impossible… Live with reality…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 7:21 PM

And mnjg’s nose grows… and grows… and grows…

Myron Falwell on December 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM

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