Open thread: House to vote on Boehner/Ryan budget deal soon; Update: 332-94; Update: Boehner votes yes

posted at 5:05 pm on December 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

Stupid me, I thought there was a tiny chance that the grassroots backlash to the bill early yesterday would make today’s vote a cliffhanger. Nope:

After conducting a series of closed-door briefings and polling members during a late-afternoon vote, GOP leadership aides confidently predicted that the deal struck between House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Budget Committee Chairman Patty Murray (D-Wash.) would sail through the House when it comes to a vote Thursday.

The moment seemed to mark a potentially significant shift by House Republicans away from the uncompromising confrontation of recent years and toward a determined era of more functional governance. After multiple standoffs and threatened defaults and one actual shutdown, polls show that the Republican brand has been badly damaged among voters, and even some of the most conservative Republicans said they were ready for a breather.

“That’s the only reason” to vote for the budget deal — “to calm things down,” said Rep. Cynthia M. Lummis (R-Wyo.), who said she was undecided about the measure. “To reset the debate is a great way to describe it.”

That’s one of the mysteries of today’s vote: Is it a harbinger of a more sustained turn towards centrism or a low-stakes sui generis vote to get out of town before Christmas? The other mystery is how many Republicans will end up voting for it. Pelosi’s backing the bill on the theory that it’s time to — no joke — “embrace the suck,” which is as solid a motto for American government in the age of Hopenchange that you’ll ever hear. But the fact that House Democrats are on board doesn’t mean a majority of the GOP caucus will go along. Will they, or is this yet another violation of the Hastert Rule? The answer:

I’ll update with a link to the roll as soon as it’s up. While we wait, read Erick Erickson speculating that Boehner’s throwing roundhouses now at conservative PACs in order to prepare the ground for the new amnesty push to come next year. That is indeed coming, no doubt, but I don’t see how it benefits him or the centrists to take an “us vs. them” posture with righties before the primaries. Better to lie low for now, be conciliatory (“yeah, this deal’s bad, but things’ll be different in 2015″), and then sandbag border hawks with an amnesty deal after primary season is over. All he’s doing by ramming a bad budget deal down their throats now is giving them extra motivation to seek revenge. And there’d be no sweeter revenge than thwarting a sellout on amnesty.

Update: A big win for Boehner and Ryan. The vast majority of the caucus hung with them.

No roll yet, but it’s coming.

Update: As promised, here’s the roll.

Update: Good catch. Typically the Speaker doesn’t vote unless his/her vote is absolutely necessary.


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The Progs love it!

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Sit Down and Shut Up

The new GOP slogan. Get those donations rolling in before the big rush, suckers.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Boooo!!!!!!

Bmore on December 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Well I’ll Be Stay’n Home On Election Day

roflmmfao

donabernathy on December 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM

We have no leadership in our government!

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Interesting how the GOP is always caving and saving it’s powder for the next big fight coming down the road. Of course, when that next big fight comes along, the GOP finds it necessary to fold and save its powder for the next big fight coming down the road……

Clark1 on December 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Bend over and cough, America.

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM

While we wait, read Erick Erickson speculating that Boehner’s throwing roundhouses now at conservative PACs in order to prepare the ground for the new amnesty push to come next year. That is indeed coming, no doubt, but I don’t see how it benefits him or the centrists to take an “us vs. them” posture with righties before the primaries. Better to lie low for now, be conciliatory (“yeah, this deal’s bad, but things’ll be different in 2015″), and then sandbag border hawks with an amnesty deal after primary season is over.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Get the RINOs through the primaries only to lose in the general election when the base stays home after having an amnesty bill shoved down their throats. Does the GOP actually take pride in the stupid party label?

Doughboy on December 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Both parties hated the sequester…it limited their power over the peons and their ability to buy reelection votes.

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:11 PM

In end-of-the-world films, there always is a group determined to have one last blowout party. Congress is that group.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Dam the Hoover?

MontanaMmmm on December 12, 2013 at 5:11 PM

The GOP leadership thinks they are responsible for the Dem bad poll numbers…

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM

While we wait, read Erick Erickson speculating that Boehner’s throwing roundhouses now at conservative PACs in order to prepare the ground for the new amnesty push to come next year. That is indeed coming, no doubt, but I don’t see how it benefits him or the centrists to take an “us vs. them” posture with righties before the primaries. Better to lie low for now, be conciliatory (“yeah, this deal’s bad, but things’ll be different in 2015″), and then sandbag border hawks with an amnesty deal after primary season is over. All he’s doing by ramming a bad budget deal down their throats now is giving them extra motivation to seek revenge. And there’d be no sweeter revenge than thwarting a sellout on amnesty.

Counterpoint – when a party is convinced it needs a new base, it becomes obsessed with throwing out the entirety of the prior base. It worked for the Democrats in the late 1960s (helped by Nixon) and in the mid-2000s.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM

We’ll see how sucky Democrats really think it is when the votes are tallied. My guess is over 90% of them will vote yes. They are pretending they don’t like the deal so Republican leadership can save a little face in their total surrender.

Wigglesworth on December 12, 2013 at 5:15 PM

As long as people keep allowing leftist radicals and Republican progressives to remain in control, this nation is doomed. Only question is how fast it will implode.

Meople on December 12, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Vote for your preferred Republicrat in 2014.

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 5:16 PM

The moment seemed to mark a potentially significant shift by House Republicans away from the uncompromising confrontation of recent years and toward a determined era of more functional governance.

Translation: The Dems can everything they want.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:16 PM

HHS is asking insureres to accept downpayments on premiums owed…no seriously.

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:17 PM

*can have everything they want.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:17 PM

If your vote mattered they would make it illegal.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on December 12, 2013 at 5:17 PM

LIVE on NOW:

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House Debate on Budget Agreement

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Just let it effing burn….

I am so done with the idiot parade in DC, and every day I am more convinced that the only way it will ever change is when the whole thing collapses in on itself.

I for one would rather it happen sooner than later.

njmax on December 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Interesting how the GOP is always caving and saving it’s powder for the next big fight coming down the road. Of course, when that next big fight comes along, the GOP finds it necessary to fold and save its powder for the next big fight coming down the road……

Clark1 on December 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM

The Neverending Story Retreat

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Has anyone read the damn thing..?

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

LIVE ON NOW REUTERS:

Happening Now: House of Representatives debate Ryan-Murray budget proposal

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Politics

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

But … but … but … just a couple of hours ago, Paul Ryan was whining that everyone should read the bill before they criticize it … and now it’s ‘HURRY UP AND PASS THE BILL’ so that we can find out what’s in it!

America gets the shaft, once again.

Pork-Chop on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

It doesnt surprise me that Boehner has enough lackies to force slightly over half the Republicans to vote “Yea”. The real question is how close to half, and how many will vote “no” with permission from the “football humper” in order to continue their personal ruse of conservatism.

The GOP is more or less the Whig party at this point.

alecj on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

The moment seemed to mark a potentially significant shift by House Republicans away from the uncompromising confrontation of recent years and toward a determined era of more functional governance.

The opening move in the recreation of the Democratic-Republican Party, united as all “Grand Unity” parties are, in thoroughly crushing the common-enemy opposition.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

While we wait, read Erick Erickson speculating that Boehner’s throwing roundhouses now at conservative PACs in order to prepare the ground for the new amnesty push to come next year.

This budget deal is bad, but not a huge huge deal.
BUT if the bonehead goes for amnesty, it’s all over as far as any semblance of possible unity in the Republican party. It’s all out nuclear war. It’s “we don’t care about 2014 or anything else except getting the traitors OUT!”

anotherJoe on December 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Just let it effing burn….

I am so done with the idiot parade in DC, and every day I am more convinced that the only way it will ever change is when the whole thing collapses in on itself.

I for one would rather it happen sooner than later.

njmax on December 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Yep, agree entirely.

Meople on December 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

The moment seemed to mark a potentially significant shift by House Republicans away from the uncompromising confrontation of recent years and toward a determined era of more functional governance.

They deign to reign.

The political class, each member determined to save their own political …career.

That mandate to act as the proxy for those who elected them means nothing to these careerists.

thatsafactjack on December 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

In the meantime, Paul Ryan is disparaging people for not having read it before criticizing it. But, just because nobody has had enough time to read it is no reason not to have a vote on it, right Mr. Ryan?

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 5:21 PM

The GOP is more or less the Whig party at this point.

alecj on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

I submit they’re closer to the Federalist Party. The Whigs, by and large, became Republicans, while the Federalists simply got absorbed by the Democratic-Republican Party.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:21 PM

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:21 PM

But the fact that House Democrats are on board doesn’t mean a majority of the GOP caucus will go along.

I have complete confidence that my former Congressman (Turner in Ohio) will capitulate to Boehner.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Has anyone read the damn thing..?

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Hey, who’s got time for reading? PASS FIRST … read later.

Establishment Republicans are indistinguishable from democrats.

Pork-Chop on December 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM

In the meantime, Paul Ryan is disparaging people for not having read it before criticizing it. But, just because nobody has had enough time to read it is no reason not to have a vote on it, right Mr. Ryan?

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 5:21 PM

In the words of former (and if Boehner and Ryan have their way, future) Speaker Nancy Pelosi, “We have to pass the bill to see what’s in it.”

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Anything that averts a shutdown is an easy political price to pay. Keep the focus on BOcare. I support the GOP leadership on this. The PACs have been unreasonable – asking members to walk stupid planks in October to no good end.

matthew8787 on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

What SWalker said.

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

I guess once again this wasn’t the hill to die on…

sandee on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

In the meantime, Paul Ryan is disparaging people for not having read it before criticizing it. But, just because nobody has had enough time to read it is no reason not to have a vote on it, right Mr. Ryan?

besser tot als rot on December 12, 2013 at 5:21 PM

C’mon. It’s December 12th. It’s inhuman to keep these poor folks in Washington this long.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Anything that averts a shutdown is an easy political price to pay. Keep the focus on BOcare. I support the GOP leadership on this. The PACs have been unreasonable – asking members to walk stupid planks in October to no good end.

matthew8787 on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Would that be the same PlaceboCare that is getting more discretionary funding than Obama asked for back in April?

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Live to “fight” another day….

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:24 PM

This budget deal is bad, but not a huge huge deal.
BUT if the bonehead goes for amnesty, it’s all over as far as any semblance of possible unity in the Republican party. It’s all out nuclear war. It’s “we don’t care about 2014 or anything else except getting the traitors OUT!”

anotherJoe on December 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

‘BUDGET DEAL MAY CLEAR WAY FOR AMNESTY VOTE IN 2014′

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/10/Budget-Deal-May-Clear-Way-for-Amnesty-Vote-in-2014

Pork-Chop on December 12, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Has anyone read the damn thing..?

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Steve Eggleston had a thread earlier of some folks who have read it. And it’s pretty much as terrible as you’d think. Ryan can STFU.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Yeah, since Paul Ryan is so anti amnesty…this doesn’t mean a thing.

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM

matthew8787 on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

And just what about the gubmint was actually shut down? Other than state parks, monuments (for some, not all) and White House tours?

You people still call 17% a “shutdown” is giving me the $H!T$. How about we stop accepting the premise of the left, ObaMao and the State-Run media, mmmmkay?

Meople on December 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Anything that averts a shutdown is an easy political price to pay. Keep the focus on BOcare. I support the GOP leadership on this.

matthew8787 on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

The GOP has given up on obamacare – they are no longer talking about it, or fighting it – they have surrendered. Instead of focusing on obamacare heading into 2014, the GOP now believes that ramming AMNESTY through is how they will win. They are wrong.

Pork-Chop on December 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Anything that averts a shutdown is an easy political price to pay. Keep the focus on BOcare. I support the GOP leadership on this. The PACs have been unreasonable – asking members to walk stupid planks in October to no good end.

matthew8787 on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Yes, because that “shutdown” did such irreparable harm to our great republic. Why, what if it had impeded the implementation of OBAMACARE!?
Quelle Horreur!

/eyeroll, facepalm, bemused headshake

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Anything that averts a shutdown is an easy political price to pay. Keep the focus on BOcare. I support the GOP leadership on this. The PACs have been unreasonable – asking members to walk stupid planks in October to no good end.

matthew8787 on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:30 PM

The GOP has given up on obamacare – they are no longer talking about it, or fighting it – they have surrendered. Instead of focusing on obamacare heading into 2014, the GOP now believes that ramming AMNESTY through is how they will win. They are wrong.

Pork-Chop on December 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Yep, they are SO wrong.

I’ll be happy to vote AGAINST every single Repube on my ballot that votes for Obamnesty. Even if that means voting FOR a Dimocrat.

Don’t think I’ll do it? Go ahead Repubes, pass Obamnesty, see what happens next year you RATS.

Meople on December 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Something tells me we’ll be told amnesty is not the hill to die on too, because it’ll distract from Obamacare and hurt GOP chances in the next election. Get ready for it folks.

Dongemaharu on December 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I have an idea for that giant Pelosi gavel …

LetsBfrank on December 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM

More demonstrable proof that my leaving the Republican Party and refusing to vote for them again, was ABSOLUTELY the right thing to do.

Mahdi on December 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM

The GOP is more or less the Whig party at this point.

alecj on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

The Whig party lasted less than 60 years won 4 Presidential elections and not a single Congressional elections…

The Republican party has been in existence since 1856, has 18 Presidents for a total of 88 years of Republican Presidential power, more than any other party, and won many Congressional elections…

To compare the Republican party to the Whig party is pure ignorance of reality and history… Ranting on the internet does not change history or facts…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

♫We’ll be screwed by Christmas,

Make your plans to be…..♫

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Yes I see yet again Obama has arbitrarily changed the provisions of the health care bill … It’s good to be the King…

sandee on December 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

I’m not falling into the trap of comparing the Repubes to any party of the past.

I’m calling them what they are, Dimocrat-Lite Progressives.

And if they don’t cede power in the Republican party, then the Republican party should whither away and die.

Meople on December 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Anything that averts a shutdown is an easy political price to pay. Keep the focus on BOcare. I support the GOP leadership on this. The PACs have been unreasonable – asking members to walk stupid planks in October to no good end.

matthew8787 on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

And of course, when immigration reform comes up after the House gets back from the holiday recess, you and the rest of the Establishment cheerleaders will be right here spouting the same line –

“We can’t afford to get into a messy political fight over this now! We have to keep the focus on Obamacare! Let’s just give the Dems what they want on immigration and move on!”

Gator Country on December 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM

“Embrace the suck”.

And we haven’t even got to the amnesty vote that will be coming soon.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM

The Republican party has been in existence since 1856, has 18 Presidents for a total of 88 years of Republican Presidential power, more than any other party, and won many Congressional elections…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

And, other than Reagan’s 8 years, the prior 20 years were distinguishable from the Democrats’ runs how again?

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM

The GOP is more or less the Whig party at this point.
alecj on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

I submit they’re closer to the Federalist Party. The Whigs, by and large, became Republicans, while the Federalists simply got absorbed by the Democratic-Republican Party.
Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:21 PM

For a while I’ve had “dreams” of another party replacing the old and tired GOP. But now I’m thinking that a replacement party, like the Republicans for the Whigs, would not take over unless there was an overwhelmingly irreconcilable issue that divided Republicans in half, AND divided the Dems. A new GOP replacement party would only form if it took nearly equal parts from the Dems and Repubs. That’s what the Republicans did in 1850s on the slavery issue. But at the moment I don’t see any major issue that would create a new replacement party for the GOP. Instead, a bitterly divided party would just lose across the board.

I’m looking for historical analogues to back my point, though I’m not a historian.

anotherJoe on December 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM

“This is NOT the hill to die on, teabaggers!”

-What about that hill over there?

“NO! Too steep!”

-That one?

“Too high!”

-That one?

“Too rocky!”

-What about tha…

“NO! NO NO NO!”

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Make it 28 – Eisenhower wasn’t exactly conservative either. We got Social Security Disability Insurance during his tenure.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM

And if they don’t cede power in the Republican party, then the Republican party should whither away and die.

Meople on December 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM

You are nobody… The same with many people on this forum and other internet blogs and sites… Some of the idiots who rant that the Republican party is not pure enough have their wives, husbands, children, family, and friends as flaming liberals and they admit so on this forum… The idiots cannot convince their f***ing families and friends to be conservatives but yet they attack the Republican party for not being conservative enough…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Something tells me we’ll be told amnesty is not the hill to die on too, because it’ll distract from Obamacare and hurt GOP chances in the next election. Get ready for it folks.

Dongemaharu on December 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Ahhhh, you beat me to it. :)

This opens up all kinds of wonderful possibilities for Democrats. For starters, maybe they’ll decide that the time is ripe to revisit gun control after amnesty gets through.

Gator Country on December 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM

“This is NOT the hill to die on, teabaggers!”

-What about that hill over there?

“NO! Too steep!”

-That one?

“Too high!”

-That one?

“Too rocky!”

-What about tha…

“NO! NO NO NO!”

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM

It’s almost like they don’t want to fight.

Almost.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Counterpoint – when a party is convinced it needs a new base, it becomes obsessed with throwing out the entirety of the prior base. It worked for the Democrats in the late 1960s (helped by Nixon) and in the mid-2000s.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Who is going to be the new base of the GOPe?

It’s quite a different scenario from the Dems. They had a rising number of committed Leftists ready to take over.

The R’s have no rising number of moderates ready to support them. The GOPe has their donors and hope to have enough LIV in the primaries to stay in office. That’s not exactly a rousing base to rely on, especially considering that those LIV’s on the right are diminishing in number.

INC on December 12, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Today I am an independent.

The GOP will get nary a dime from me ever again.

Skywise on December 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Roll over Boehnoooven.

MontanaMmmm on December 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM

but yet they attack the Republican party for not being conservative enough

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Fixed it for ya’.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM

The idiots cannot convince their f***ing families and friends to be conservatives but yet they attack the Republican party for not being conservative enough…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM

My liberal cousins can’t raise my taxes, can’t grant amnesty to lawbreakers, can’t refuse to impeach a law-breaking preznit; in short if they don’t listen to me we can part ways and no harm done to me or mine.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 5:41 PM

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Speak for yourself, nobody.

And ALL of my family are just as Conservative as I am.

And as for my friends, if they’re not Conservative, they don’t remain my friends for very long.

You go right on ahead, with your Republican party being indistinguishable from the Dimocrats. Good luck with that.

And I’ll enjoy voting against every (R) on the ballot next year.

Meople on December 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Gator Country on December 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM

And you know this is going to happen…how?

Rovin on December 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM

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canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Who is going to be the new base of the GOPe?

The same people who voted for the Republicans in each elections… Who the f*** is going to be the base of your pure party? A bunch of internet bloggers… Many of you cannot even convince your families and friends to be conservative as by the admission of many purists here that they have flaming family members including their wives, husbands, and children… And you think you are going to found a pure party…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:44 PM

And I’ll enjoy voting against every (R) on the ballot next year.

Meople on December 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Please do we do not f***ing need you… You are much less significant than an ant…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:44 PM

LIVs do not a base make.

INC on December 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

The GOP leadership thinks they are responsible for the Dem bad poll numbers…

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Nope, but they think that these numbers are so bad, that they can screw their base (I think they will have a serious go at amnesty) and still win 2014.

Valkyriepundit on December 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Go Tea Party GO!!! Shut it down!

libfreeordie on December 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Who is going to be the new base of the GOPe?

It’s quite a different scenario from the Dems. They had a rising number of committed Leftists ready to take over.

The R’s have no rising number of moderates ready to support them. The GOPe has their donors and hope to have enough LIV in the primaries to stay in office. That’s not exactly a rousing base to rely on, especially considering that those LIV’s on the right are diminishing in number.

INC on December 12, 2013 at 5:39 PM

What do you think amnesty’s about? Plus, there’s still the dying breed of BlueDog Former Democrats.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

My liberal cousins can’t raise my taxes, can’t grant amnesty to lawbreakers, can’t refuse to impeach a law-breaking preznit; in short if they don’t listen to me we can part ways and no harm done to me or mine.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 5:41 PM

But you are going to form your purist party that will attract tens of millions of people… Good luck…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Yes I see yet again Obama has arbitrarily changed the provisions of the health care bill … It’s good to be the King…

sandee on December 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

sandee:Yup, and I’ll be glad when he’s gone!:)

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM

What do you think amnesty’s about? Plus, there’s still the dying breed of BlueDog Former Democrats.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

They’ll head over to the Dems, not the R’s.

INC on December 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Haha, your little insults are quite amusing. Unless the Repubes change course, enjoy your little minorities from here on out.

Meople on December 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Just a note…there are a lot of Conservatives who are not associated with the Tea Party and have voted GOP for a long long time.

d1carter on December 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM

After dealing with that Eva, I don’t need to see Nancy and the cast of Girls in an advertisement.
I’m at my ugly limit already.

AllahsNippleHair on December 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Hmm. Where do all the dollars from this “budget” come from.

RushBaby on December 12, 2013 at 5:49 PM

And you know this is going to happen…how?

Rovin on December 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Lots and lots of recent history to suggest it’s practically a certainty, plus knowing that the Establishment and their major donors, despite the coy routine they’re playing, really, really want amnesty, right now.

Gator Country on December 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM

As for accusations of purity, at the very least the R’s should not be making it easier for the Dems to raise spending and taxes!

@SenatorSessions says the Senate’s ability to block tax-and-spend bills is diminished by #RyanMurrayBudget http://www.budget.senate.gov/republican/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=d1e88c46-3b38-4574-9586-572a554f0c37 … #haction

INC on December 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM

And I’ll enjoy voting against every (R) on the ballot next year.

Meople on December 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Please do we do not f***ing need you… You are much less significant than an ant…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

I love how the GOP elite think they can win an election without voters.

AllahsNippleHair on December 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM

A new Political Beasty:

Dan Wasserman ‏@GlobeWasserman

DC budget compromise creates new life form.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2013/12/12/editorial-cartoon-washington-reaches-compromise/dArIdmxWtRegxnHVWKyGMK/story.html … #budgetdeal pic.twitter.com/27jcVZ75mF

https://twitter.com/GlobeWasserman/status/411265056530120704/photo/1/large

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM

I love how the GOP elite think they can win an election without voters.

AllahsNippleHair on December 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Their definition includes the Rats winning. In fact, as long as conservatives don’t win, the elite calls it a win.

Steve Eggleston on December 12, 2013 at 5:52 PM

The GOPe has apparently decided that they want to be the US equivalent of the UK’s Tories. They could then come out of the crypto-progressive closet. Deep blue states DO elect progressive Republicans like Mitt Romney and Chris Christie. The GOPe sees this as their future nationally. They have decided to abandon conservatism completely and go all-in on a program of marginalizing conservatives as being too extreme.

Ceteris Paribus on December 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM

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