Hot news topic of the week: Is Santa white?

posted at 4:21 pm on December 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

This story fills my bloggy heart with dread, not because of what it’s about but because of the timing. If news is so slow two weeks out from Christmas that Fox News’s 9 p.m. hour needs to fill airtime with a panel on whether a fictional character is or should be Caucasian, what’s it going to be like next week? What am I going to write about? If you don’t think HA is capable of pivoting instantly during a news drought to a format that’s 75-80 percent devoted to atheism and the “Walking Dead,” just wait, my friends. I’m already working on my intro post for Monday: “If God exists, why hasn’t someone eaten Sheriff Rick yet?”

Anyway. You’ve read my mind, John Podhoretz:

Three thoughts. One: This is sort of like the ObamaCare debate, no? Liberals identify some legit flaws in the current system, but then, in their mad social-engineering ambition to solve the problem, end up replacing it with something stupid. Two: If we’re going to devote valuable media time to whether certain cultural institutions are too white, aren’t there better places to start? Three: Whatever race you happen to think Santa is, can we all at least agree that he’s a liberal? I take no pleasure in drawing that conclusion but it is what it is. The guy hands out presents that others have paid for and then expects to be celebrated for it. His last name might as well be Kennedy. Get a job, Santa. Exit question: Warren/Claus 2016?


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Bishop!

davidk on December 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Santa is Libby. Not white. /

22044 on December 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM

The importance of Santa Claus is not whether he is black or white…it is that we all celebrate and honor his birthday on the 25th.

Pablo Honey on December 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Well, he isn’t a fat bird from Antarctica!
I am sick of liberals! Stabbing you all with my prick!
Oops, wrong thread!

AllahsNippleHair on December 12, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Off white.

anotherJoe on December 12, 2013 at 4:25 PM

I believe this is what is called a “First World Problem.”

rbj on December 12, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Santa Claus is a fictional character.

What’s next? A national debate over Daffy Duck’s race? Is he black?

Hey, is Speedy Gonzales mexican? Or Nicaraguan?

NapaConservative on December 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Judging by his high cheek bones I think he’s an Indian.

Mason on December 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

I’m already working on my intro post for Monday: “If God exists, why hasn’t someone eaten Sheriff Rick yet?”

Even though there won’t be a new episode until February?

cozmo on December 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

What other skin colors naturally exist among the indiginous people of the most northern latitudes, i.e. nearest the North Pole?
Those are your options for Santa’s skin color.

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

You’re slipping, AP.

We had a 200+-post thread in the Headlines yesterday on this. I was sure you’d get to this before the end of the day yesterday.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

The importance of Santa Claus is not whether he is black or white…it is that we all celebrate and honor his birthday on the 25th.

Pablo Honey on December 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM

An all time great!

Mason on December 12, 2013 at 4:27 PM

For those not familiar with this topic, read the Slate piece to find out all about Santa Penguin.

Seriously.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Um, this was settled about 1800 years ago. He’s Greek.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

MichaelGabriel on December 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

White Hispanic, and he only gives toys to white kids, the colored youngsters are given cancer.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Santa is a white liberal ashamed of his whiteness and north pole privilege.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:29 PM

White Hispanic, and he only gives toys to white kids, the colored youngsters are given cancer.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I thought he shot them. In their hoodie.

AllahsNippleHair on December 12, 2013 at 4:30 PM

For those not familiar with this topic, read the Slate piece to find out all about Santa Penguin.

Seriously.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I wonder if the brainiac race-pimp who thought Penguins were mammals ever figured out that they’re located only at the South Pole.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:30 PM

If minorities need a non-white Santa to relate to then how is it that an asian kid can relate to a black santa but not a white one?

This whole socially constructed progressive reality is pretty confusing.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM

You’re slipping, AP.

We had a 200+-post thread in the Headlines yesterday on this. I was sure you’d get to this before the end of the day yesterday.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Yeah, that was epic. libfree’s greatest hits.

Here’s the post that kicked off the fun!

Many of our ornaments and christmas figurines featured black angels, black santas, black elves. Here’s the thing about conservatism though. Most of you interpret my family’s desire for black Christmas themed decorations as racist. Why is that? Its simply a consumer choice. You also have the option of black christmas figurines and you buy white ones, does that make you racist?

libfreeordie on December 11, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Del Dolemonte on December 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Santa Warns In Greenpeace Video Christmas Will Be Canceled Due To Global Warming

My comment on this video:
Most of the leftist loons that are warmists (as Michael Mann, Peter Gleick, James Hansen, on and on) could be expected to also be in on the “war on Christmas.” So this is odd to use Christmas as part of their propaganda. But it’s fitting that the Chicken Littles would turn the iconic positive jolly white-bearded Santa into a derelict alcoholic looking creep. Oh, and they forgot to mention record growth in Arctic ice, and record levels of Antarctic sea ice. Small detail, missing. And where’s Rudolph? Talk about small budget!

anotherJoe on December 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM

You’re slipping, AP.

We had a 200+-post thread in the Headlines yesterday on this. I was sure you’d get to this before the end of the day yesterday.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

These are desperate times when Allah has to recycle day old headlines chum.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Yes, Santa is white, although he gets kind of red from the cold, and has blue eyes and did have blond hair before it turned white.

VorDaj on December 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM

The importance of Santa Claus is not whether he is black or white…it is that we all celebrate and honor his birthday on the 25th.

Pablo Honey on December 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Yeah that is the true Christmas, our Lord and Savior Santa Claus with a bag of toys as mentioned in the three Gospels…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Best Penguin video ever.

Del Dolemonte on December 12, 2013 at 4:33 PM

For those not familiar with this topic, read the Slate piece to find out all about Santa Penguin.

Seriously.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I wonder if the brainiac race-pimp who thought Penguins were mammals ever figured out that they’re located only at the South Pole.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Is that the new Santa for people in the southern hemisphere?

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:33 PM

These are desperate times when Allah has to recycle day old headlines chum.

It was the Fox clip that inspired the post, not the Slate thing.

Allahpundit on December 12, 2013 at 4:34 PM

He has to be white, otherwise Zimmerman would have shot him for breaking into his house…

rw on December 12, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Until Claus is a native family name in Swahili or Ubangi the traditional Santa gonna bees a honky.

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Is Santa white?

And has anybody given Zimmerman the heads-up that the old guy’s coming through the neighborhood?

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Is that the new Santa for people in the southern hemisphere?

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:33 PM

It’s Santa’s half brother, Santa Chavez.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM

We don’t need you to follow him, George.

22044 on December 12, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Um, this was settled about 1800 years ago. He’s Greek.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

MichaelGabriel on December 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

That Greek was just stealing the real Santa’s schtick.
The real Santa lives at the North Pole, which dentarthurdent accurately pointed out, make him kinda pinkish/white.

Mimzey on December 12, 2013 at 4:38 PM

He is more than white, he’s Canadian.

BL@KBIRD on December 12, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Is that the new Santa for people in the southern hemisphere?

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:33 PM

It’s Santa’s half brother, Santa Chavez.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Shouldn’t that be Santa Maduro who loots the tree and presents then climbs up the chimney?

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Yeah that is the true Christmas, our Lord and Savior Santa Claus with a bag of toys as mentioned in the three Gospels…

mnjg on December 12, 2013 at 4:33 PM

And the Three Wise-elves who followed Rudolph’s nose to the manger.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:38 PM

YES,

because there isn’t much Sun, up in the Great White North,
(notice the Great White North wording),and so, Santa doesn’t
have any colour,..hence White!!

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 4:38 PM

It’s Santa’s half brother, Santa Chavez.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Ahhhh – and coincidently, he’s only half white – like another left-wing messiah I keep hearing about……

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:39 PM

These are desperate times when Allah has to recycle day old headlines chum.

It was the Fox clip that inspired the post, not the Slate thing.

Allahpundit on December 12, 2013 at 4:34 PM

I was just riffing off of the first part of your post.

But does this mean move over Kristin Powers, Megyn Kelly has arrived?

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:39 PM

These are desperate times when Allah has to recycle day old headlines chum.

It was the Fox clip that inspired the post, not the Slate thing.

Allahpundit on December 12, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Which is also funny because the Fox clip is them discussing the Slate thing.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM

What is black, white, and red all over?

Santa Penguin

ConDem on December 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM

He’s a Greek from Turkey who enjoys punching heretics in the face.

Spade on December 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM

For those not familiar with this topic, read the Slate piece to find out all about Santa Penguin.

Seriously.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I wonder if the brainiac race-pimp who thought Penguins were mammals ever figured out that they’re located only at the South Pole.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:30 PM

http://tinyurl.com/d4lmlwm

davidk on December 12, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Which is also funny because the Fox clip is them discussing the Slate thing.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM

It’s Santa’s world and we’re all just paying rent.

22044 on December 12, 2013 at 4:41 PM

He is more than white, he’s Canadian.

BL@KBIRD on December 12, 2013 at 4:38 PM

BL@KBIRD:

Lol,….keep it on the down low!!:)

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Nelson Mandela is a leader who Barack Obama should try to emulate.

He could start by spending 27 years in prison.

– Don Imus

Schadenfreude on December 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Which is also funny because the Fox clip is them discussing the Slate thing.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM

ROFL

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM

An overly generous stocky Inuit

DarkCurrent on December 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM

I hear he just got sleigh-jacked in Philadelphia….

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM

But Uncle Sam is still white, right?

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM

He is more than white, he’s Canadian.

BL@KBIRD on December 12, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Well that explains the massive beer belly, eh….

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Is that the new Santa for people in the southern hemisphere?

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:33 PM

It’s Santa’s half brother, Santa Chavez.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Shouldn’t that be Santa Maduro who loots the tree and presents then climbs up the chimney?

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Beter than Santeria. That dude left a disemboweled chicken and a bunch of melted candles under my tree last year.

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Just have him wear a ski mask and no one will know.

WhatSlushfund on December 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Nelson Mandela is a leader who Barack Obama should try to emulate.
He could start by spending 27 years in prison.
– Don Imus

Schadenfreude on December 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM

I’ll second that!!!
At least 27 years – starting today.

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Better. dang.

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM

I remember dark days as a kid, those long and gloomy wintery days of December. I’d look up at a plastic Santa and feel the white solidarity. It kept me going man.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:46 PM

*sigh* this is such a non-story liberal distraction piece of dreck. But, I’ll play along.

Given that “Santa Claus” is based off St. Nicholas of Smyrna. He would look like people from that region of Turkey if you wanted to be correct. The “Santa Claus” of today is on the one hand an advertising gimick made up by US Advertisers mixing some of the Europian Legends of Sinterklaas. So if you are going to use Sinterklaas as the source material then his current “race” stands.

I know if one engages the reason that the good Lord gave them then these things aren’t hard.

Welcome to the Heresy of Modernity and the error of “relativism” where “truth” is a lie. Liberals … *eye roll*

Cadian on December 12, 2013 at 4:46 PM

The only real problem here, AP, is that you are assuming that “media time” really is “valuable”.

dissent555 on December 12, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Don’t tell anyone but I prefer green trees to white trees.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:46 PM

It was the Fox clip that inspired the post, not the Slate thing.

Allahpundit on December 12, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Which is also funny because the Fox clip is them discussing the Slate thing.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Whew!! For a minute there, I thought the Fox folks had a coincidental melding of the minds with Slate writer Aisha Harris and the whole world was truly going to hell in a handbasket.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:46 PM

But Uncle Sam is still white, right?

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Fits with the aka Uncle Sugar.
I’ve never heard him referred to as Uncle Brown Sugar….

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM

“Santa shouldn’t be a white man.”

Why do I get the feeling they really meant: “No one should be a white man.”

HakerA on December 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM

But what about doo-bee, doo-bee, doo penguin?

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM

This thread is hilarious

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Don’t tell anyone but I prefer green trees to white trees.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Dark green or light green?
;)

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Is Santa white?

Not at my house. We have a big brown plastic santa (with light bulb inside) we put out each year along with the house lights. Kids (now in high school / college) are from Central America. That’s just always been santa for them. But we’re good with people’s white santas, too. :)

dont taze me bro on December 12, 2013 at 4:50 PM

But Uncle Sam is still white, right?

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Heh. Wait ’til they figure that out.

davidk on December 12, 2013 at 4:50 PM

One: This is sort of like the ObamaCare debate, no? Liberals identify some legit flaws in the current system, but then, in their mad social-engineering ambition to solve the problem, end up replacing it with something stupid.

No, AP, just no.

Stoic Patriot on December 12, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Uncle Sam can be white only until the tap shuts off, then he’ll become a cracka and the NAACP will develop Uncle Dant’rius to take his place.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 4:52 PM

I like the image of Billy Bob Thornton as Bad Santa…

PatriotRider on December 12, 2013 at 4:53 PM

His last name might as well be Kennedy.

Lines like this are why I come here day after day. :)

Kensington on December 12, 2013 at 4:53 PM

But where do the reindeers poop?

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM

“Santa is what he is.”

Invisible, except in the child’s mind is what he is. Exit question; Is Santa really a he? Allah?

Bmore on December 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

But where do the reindeers poop?

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM

All over the vegans’ food…..

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

I am Jewish. Not just Jewish, but religiously so. Keep kosher etc… The concept of Santa certainly was not inclusive of me now was it? With all that said, this is one of the most inane things I’ve ever read.

I’m dressing as Santa Claus for the kids at one of my businesses this year, later I will be singing christmas songs at an elementary school as part of a charity event. I’ve done it for years. My point isn”t “look how cool I am”, my point is that Santa Claus and Christmas give kids and people joy, and the world needs more joy. They love it, it is no real issue to me one way or the other. Whats the problem? I certainly cant imagine insecurity or shame because of a Christmas tradition. Thats crazy.

BTW, My Rabbi thinks it is hilarious that I sing Rudolph the red nosed reindeer every year, santa hat and all. He even laughs about it in synagogue. If the Rabbi is not offended, who is this woman kidding?

Irritable Pundit on December 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM

davidk on December 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Three: Whatever race you happen to think Santa is, can we all at least agree that he’s a liberal? I take no pleasure in drawing that conclusion but it is what it is. The guy hands out presents that others have paid for and then expects to be celebrated for it.

No, no, no.

He uses slave labor (elves) to build toys in his worksweatshop.

Therefore, he must be white.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

What’s funny about the Fox clip is that they deem Santa to be white because he’s based on someone who was Greek.
They then deem Jesus to be white…well, just because, aright?

Credit to Kelly suggesting there’s some legitimacy to the the concern of the person who wrote the piece that started all this…and not dismissing it with some ‘that’s so PC’ cliche.

verbaluce on December 12, 2013 at 4:56 PM

But where do the reindeers poop?

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM

I’m thinking there’s a house in Minnesota …

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I’m dreaming of a White/Black/Hispanic/Asian/GLBT Christmas, with every Christmas card I write…

Sing it with me everyone!

WhatSlushfund on December 12, 2013 at 4:57 PM

He uses slave labor (elves) to build toys in his worksweatshop.

Therefore, he must be white.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Which reminds of the old, painful joke that elves are just subordinate Clauses.

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

And a conservative.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Allah, you could always hope that Sarah Palin gets into a controversy next week. Those always generate lots of responses.

As for Santa, he is fictional so he can be whatever color that anyone wants him to be- black, white, or purple with green polka dots.

Illinidiva on December 12, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Yeah… Yeah…. yeah….. he’s not white…… next thing is he has a vagina

roflmmfao

donabernathy on December 12, 2013 at 4:59 PM

I’m thinking there’s a house in Minnesota …

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Al Franken’s?

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:59 PM


Is Santa white?

St. Nicholas
Artist: Susan Seals
All rights reserved
Exclusive print in our shop

The true story of Santa Claus begins with Nicholas, who was born during the third century in the village of Patara. At the time the area was Greek and is now on the southern coast of Turkey. His wealthy parents, who raised him to be a devout Christian, died in an epidemic while Nicholas was still young. Obeying Jesus’ words to “sell what you own and give the money to the poor,” Nicholas used his whole inheritance to assist the needy, the sick, and the suffering. He dedicated his life to serving God and was made Bishop of Myra while still a young man. Bishop Nicholas became known throughout the land for his generosity to those in need, his love for children, and his concern for sailors and ships.

So, what color are Greek people?

HomeoftheBrave on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

http://360jokes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/penguin-with-a-sense-of-humor.jpg

davidk on December 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM

davidk:Lol:)

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

dont taze me bro on December 12, 2013 at 4:50 PM

But our Jesus is still definitely white.

(/sarc….I kid, I kid!! )

dont taze me bro on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

As for Santa, he is fictional so he can be whatever color that anyone wants him to be- black, white, or purple with green polka dots.

Illinidiva on December 12, 2013 at 4:58 PM

I object!!

He cannot be purple with green polka dots.

Blue with yellow stripes is another matter.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

What’s funny about the Fox clip is that they deem Santa to be white because he’s based on someone who was Greek.
They then deem Jesus to be white…well, just because, aright?

Credit to Kelly suggesting there’s some legitimacy to the the concern of the person who wrote the piece that started all this…and not dismissing it with some ‘that’s so PC’ cliche.

verbaluce on December 12, 2013 at 4:56 PM

That Slate writer is really on to something with being traumatized by the color of Santa.

Not the flying reindeer. Not Santa being aware of your every action and keeping a tally of how good you’ve been, breaking in to your house at the end of year to mete out justice with presents or coal. But he’s white.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

This topic has already been covered…

..some Happy Foot Creature is the new Santa….

ToddPA on December 12, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Sorry, this is where I got the data….

HomeoftheBrave on December 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM

“We’re not going to let Rudolph play in anymore Reindeer games”!

ToddPA on December 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM

But where do the reindeers poop?

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM

I’m thinking there’s a house in Minnesota …

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I’m pretty sure it’s in Michigan ‘cuz everybody dumps on Detroit…..

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM

“Eat Papa, Eat”!!

ToddPA on December 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Whatever race you happen to think Santa is, can we all at least agree that he’s a liberal?

Whoa! Santa Claus is a liberal? That’s it, purge him!

rukiddingme on December 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

If Santa were black he would be the first really clean and articulate Santa ever to deliver presents; that’s storybook, man.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

“nobody wants a Charlie in the Box”

ToddPA on December 12, 2013 at 5:04 PM

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