Hot news topic of the week: Is Santa white?

posted at 4:21 pm on December 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

This story fills my bloggy heart with dread, not because of what it’s about but because of the timing. If news is so slow two weeks out from Christmas that Fox News’s 9 p.m. hour needs to fill airtime with a panel on whether a fictional character is or should be Caucasian, what’s it going to be like next week? What am I going to write about? If you don’t think HA is capable of pivoting instantly during a news drought to a format that’s 75-80 percent devoted to atheism and the “Walking Dead,” just wait, my friends. I’m already working on my intro post for Monday: “If God exists, why hasn’t someone eaten Sheriff Rick yet?”

Anyway. You’ve read my mind, John Podhoretz:

Three thoughts. One: This is sort of like the ObamaCare debate, no? Liberals identify some legit flaws in the current system, but then, in their mad social-engineering ambition to solve the problem, end up replacing it with something stupid. Two: If we’re going to devote valuable media time to whether certain cultural institutions are too white, aren’t there better places to start? Three: Whatever race you happen to think Santa is, can we all at least agree that he’s a liberal? I take no pleasure in drawing that conclusion but it is what it is. The guy hands out presents that others have paid for and then expects to be celebrated for it. His last name might as well be Kennedy. Get a job, Santa. Exit question: Warren/Claus 2016?


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And a conservative.
Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:57 PM

But not if he gives away all those presents. That doesn’t fit the left-wing meme about greedy conservatives.
He would have to bitterly cling to everything he has to be a conservative…..

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:04 PM

If Santa were black he would be the first really clean and articulate Santa ever to deliver presents; that’s storybook, man.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Who can turn his north pole dialect on and off at will.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM

But our Jesus is still definitely white.
(/sarc….I kid, I kid!! )

dont taze me bro on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Actually, he was Jewish…..

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM

I’m thinking there’s a house in Minnesota …

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Al Franken’s?

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:59 PM

No, another guy … can’t think of his name … rips on Wisconsin , Iowa … it’s something religous … known for being quick with a post … that name … Cardinal? … no, that’s not it … hmm

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM

This Santa Controversy brought to you by Norelco.

ToddPA on December 12, 2013 at 5:06 PM

I believe this is what is called a “First World Problem.”

rbj on December 12, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Whether to have the ham or turkey, or both, and what all that food will do to our waistlines!

Paul-Cincy on December 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM

If Santa were black he would be the first really clean and articulate Santa ever to deliver presents; that’s storybook, man.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Who can turn his north pole dialect on and off at will.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM

What, Santa’s a pasty old white broad named Hillary?

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Pffft. All the penguins are white: http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t150/WhEeLiNg19/teamwallpaper.jpg

davidk on December 12, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Not the flying reindeer. Not Santa being aware of your every action and keeping a tally of how good you’ve been, breaking in to your house at the end of year to mete out justice with presents or coal. But he’s white.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Ahhhh – so Santa works for the NSA….

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:08 PM

If Santa were black he would be the first really clean and articulate Santa ever to deliver presents; that’s storybook, man.

Bishop on December 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Who can turn his north pole dialect on and off at will.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM

After a whole night of delivering presents:

“Ah don’t feel no ways tired”

Paul-Cincy on December 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM

So, what color are Greek people?

HomeoftheBrave on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Swarthy?

davidk on December 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM

But not if he gives away all those presents. That doesn’t fit the left-wing meme about greedy conservatives.
He would have to bitterly cling to everything he has to be a conservative…..

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:04 PM

True. Maybe he’s not conservative, but he has to be a white, male, capitalist with that sweatshop. He must be shaking somebody down to make his money so he can afford to give away all those gifts.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Whether to have the ham or turkey, or both, and what all that food will do to our waistlines!

Paul-Cincy on December 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM

I’ve always wondered – Is the traditional Christmas ham dinner an intentional slap at Jews?

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM

No, another guy … can’t think of his name … rips on Wisconsin , Iowa … it’s something religous … known for being quick with a post … that name … Cardinal? … no, that’s not it … hmm

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Rook? Knight? Pawn?

No, no, defintely not Pawn.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM

If the presents suck Santa Killary will say “What difference now does it make?” as she ho-ho-hos the sleigh back into Fort Marcy Park.

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM

“Eat Papa, Eat”!!

ToddPA on December 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Who ever heard of a skinny Santa?

tommer74 on December 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM

But where do the reindeers poop?

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM

M240H: Right near the yellow snow:)
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Frank Zappa Don’t Eat The Yellow Snow
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSY2uPuLi-U

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM

True. Maybe he’s not conservative, but he has to be a white, male, capitalist with that sweatshop. He must be shaking somebody down to make his money so he can afford to give away all those gifts.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Well, ok, maybe that’s it. Somethin’ just doesn’t add up there.
That’s one gonzo whopper of a moral dilemma….

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Well, ok, maybe that’s it. Somethin’ just doesn’t add up there.
That’s one gonzo whopper of a moral dilemma….

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Must be a greedy white capitalist pig who has made billions off the sweatshop workers and stealing money from the poor, but now he’s got a bad case of white guilt…..
I got it – Bill Gates is Santa!!!!

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Tears. In. My. Eyes. Laughing.

Thanks! I needed that!

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Considering his Dutch/Scandiavian beginnings I would say that Santa Claus probably is Caucasian.

Critic2029 on December 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Whatever race you happen to think Santa is, can we all at least agree that he’s a liberal? I take no pleasure in drawing that conclusion but it is what it is. The guy hands out presents that others have paid for and then expects to be celebrated for it.

Is this established fact? Or did the libs re-write the Santa story before we got the real story?

Because he might be paying his elves for the fruits of their labor. We don’t know that he’s not, do we? And if so, then he’s distributing products to people who need/want them. This makes him more philanthropic. And we know conservatives are more generous than liberals. So he might be conservative.

Or is he indeed stealing from the elves and redistributing the fruits of their labor to his “constituents?”

And what do we really know about the people making these lists? Are they defrauding Santa? Are they really that good? Or maybe they are in genuine need? Because as far as I have read, there is not an IRS Elf Division that routinely confirms these facts on the ground.

So these questions do not stop at Santa’s race. Oh no they do not. This little jolly ho ho plot just continues to thicken.

LetsBfrank on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Santa’s an Aryan…… Man, that ought to get the sparks flying…..

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Me and my kids never celebrated or recognized Santa other then as a fictional character. Now, St. Nicolas is a different matter all together. He actually existed, though not with any damn reindeer or elves, and definitely was white. An issue my fellow Black brethren refuse to embrace.

Zaire67 on December 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Must be a greedy white capitalist pig who has made billions off the sweatshop workers and stealing money from the poor, but now he’s got a bad case of white guilt…..
I got it – Bill Gates is Santa!!!!

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM

THAT’S IT!!!!

I was gonna say something about Bill Gates but I couldn’t figure out how to fit it in. You’ve nailed it!!

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Santa’s an Aryan…… Man, that ought to get the sparks flying…..

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Does he speak Austrian?

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Bill Gates?

Now you’re making Warren Buffett and Jeff Immelt jealous!

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Considering his Dutch/Scandiavian beginnings I would say that Santa Claus probably is Caucasian.

Critic2029 on December 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

As I noted on yesterday’s Headlines thread, the Dutch “Sinterklaas” actually had a sidekick named “Zwarte Piet”, who was…of Pagan origin, and dressed in blackface.

Del Dolemonte on December 12, 2013 at 5:35 PM

But not if he gives away all those presents. That doesn’t fit the left-wing meme about greedy conservatives.
He would have to bitterly cling to everything he has to be a conservative…..

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:04 PM

But if he was liberal, we would would have heard how he either took the toys from rich kids who had enough toys already or made them in a Fair Trade factory where the lowest paid elf makes $30/hour and has complete health coverage.

John Deaux on December 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Bill Gates?
Now you’re making Warren Buffett and Jeff Immelt jealous!

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Well, Bill Gates is actually showing signs of his white guilt and giving away his illgotten billions.
I don’t see those other guys playing Santa nearly as much with their illgotten billions…

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Tears. In. My. Eyes. Laughing.

Thanks! I needed that!

M240H on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

M240H: Anytime:0

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Actually, he was Jewish…..

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Yeah, but only on his mother’s side.

;-)

CurtZHP on December 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM

But if he was liberal, we would would have heard how he either took the toys from rich kids who had enough toys already or made them in a Fair Trade factory where the lowest paid elf makes $30/hour and has complete health coverage.

John Deaux on December 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM

That’s true too – at some point you have to say you’ve gotten enough toys, and it’s only right that they should be redistributed to those who didn’t win life’s lottery….

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Where’s libfree the race hustler? He was loving this yesterday.

CurtZHP on December 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM

What would be the response if we took characters from African mythology and legend and started changing them into white people?

Mark1971 on December 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Where’s libfree the race hustler? He was loving this yesterday.

CurtZHP on December 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM

I was just about to say that this thread is libfree free.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Where’s libfree the race hustler? He was loving this yesterday.

CurtZHP on December 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM

He’s busy re-filming ’12 Years a Slave’ with white slaves so that us white folks can relate.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM

LetsBfrank on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

But doesn’t Santa give the elves free room and board in exchange for their labor? And he keeps them safe from the polar bears and abominable snowmen. Isn’t that worth something?
I’d say this puts Santa on a par with Willy Wonka, who exploits helps the Oompa-Poompas in the same way…..

It’s gonna be a sad world when the elves and oompa-loompas figure out they’re being exploited, and decide to unionize…..

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM

What would be the response if we took characters from African mythology and legend and started changing them into white people?

Mark1971 on December 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM

What color was Buddha?

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM

I’d say this puts Santa on a par with Willy Wonka, who exploits helps the Oompa-PLoompas in the same way…..
dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Darn keyboard…..
FIFM

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM

St. Nicholas as mentioned upthread is Greek and Catholic. He is in heaven as part of the Communion of Saints.

“Santa Claus a Christian Toy Manufacturer & Deliveryman who resides at the North Pole is having trouble this year…Because of Obamacare and his outspoken criticism of it…

He’s being investigated by the IRS for Tax evasion. He’s also being investigated by the FAA who might halt his flight. The EPA & OSHA are investigating the Toy Shop Factory & since Santa’s shop is a right to work shop he’s got the NLRB breathing down his neck for employment violations and he’s under pressure to unionize.

Latinos are picketing the toy factory since Santa only hires indigenous elves as labor and PETA is protesting the treatment of the reindeer insisting that all reindeer be classified as persons because as pilots they can fly and should be protected like the bald eagle excepting windmills which are allowed to kill flying animals.

NSA is monitoring Santa’s emails since Jihadis have threatened to blowup the Toy Factory for delivering toys to the children of infidels if Santa doesn’t convert and become Ramadasanta.

It’s been rumored that Santa and his wife are separated due to her imbibing too much brandy and the embarrassing twerking episode at the company office party…Friends have said the pressure has been too much for Mrs. Kringle.” – North Pole Times

workingclass artist on December 12, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Whoa! Santa Claus is a liberal? That’s it, purge him!

rukiddingme on December 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Nahh! I doubt he is a liberal. He is generous and hands out toys to kids all over the world, but I have never heard of him steal from other kids to give away to appear generous!

cableguy615 on December 12, 2013 at 5:58 PM

I’m sure brainfree spells h-white with an h.

viking01 on December 12, 2013 at 5:58 PM

So, what color are Greek people?

HomeoftheBrave on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Swarthy?

davidk on December 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Depends on the region…Macedonians & Hellenes were blond.

workingclass artist on December 12, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Santa Claus imported from Germany by the English and then re-exported to American and then the world was definitely not white.
He was German.

“In the 1840s and 1850s Queen Victoria and Prince Albert (her German husband) popularised a new way of celebrating Christmas.

An engraving of the Royal Family celebrating Christmas at Windsor was published in 1848 and their German traditions were adopted worldwide.”

Viator on December 12, 2013 at 6:05 PM

What color was Buddha?

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM

He’s chinese in China….which I always thought was kinda funny.

Nobody ever says anything about it…go figure

workingclass artist on December 12, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Viator on December 12, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Yep.

Tannenbaum.

The stockings stuffed with goodies is based on an old nordic christmas custom of putting oranges in shoes.

Caroling is old though…dates to medieval times.

workingclass artist on December 12, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Speaking of WHITE:

Jerusalem, Jerusalem, IL
11m
Efforts underway to rescue dozens of motorists trapped in snow in Jerusalem area – @haaretzcom
read more on twitter.com

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:20 PM

what color are Greek people?

Swarthy to paleface. I’m a pasty-white, blue-eyed greek.

BTW, St. Nicholas came from a very wealthy family; he gave away his own inheritance. He didn’t take from someone else to give it away. So he definitely isn’t a liberal.

azarkadas on December 12, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Hot news topic of the week: Is Santa white?

Because people with no jobs, foreclosed homes, dismal futures, crushed dreams and bankrupt businesses want to know!

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 12, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Careful!! We don’t want to stereotype him as the black delivery guy.

KenInIL on December 12, 2013 at 7:12 PM

I don’t understand why anyone would care what someone else thinks about a completely fictional character. How insecure must that person be?

If I thought the easter bunny was yellow, no one bats an eye. Someone says that Santa Claus isn’t white and they convene a panel.

segasagez on December 12, 2013 at 7:15 PM

If I thought the Easter bunny was yellow, no one bats an eye…

Lacist!

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on December 12, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Since you brought it up, AP: if atheists are right and there is no God, what’s the difference between an atheist and a zombie?

Knott Buyinit on December 12, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Since when doesn’t ‘white culture’ deserve to be honored and preserved in our ‘diverse’ and ‘multicultural’ world?

And on who’s say so should we relinquish it?

thatsafactjack on December 12, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Santa is NOT fictional.

ceannrua on December 12, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Santa Claus is money (honey!)

SouthernGent on December 12, 2013 at 8:17 PM

“A pause for Mr. Claus”

Why do you sit there so strange?
Is it because you are beautiful?
You must think you are deranged
Why do police guys beat on peace guys?

You must think Santa Clause weird
He has long hair and a beard
Giving his presents for free
Why do police guys mess with peace guys?

Let’s get Santa Clause ’cause;
Santa Clause has a red suit
He’s a communist
And a beard, and long hair
Must be a pacifist
What’s in the pipe that he’s smoking?

Mister Clause sneaks in your home at night.
He must be a dope fiend, to put you up tight
Why do police guys beat on peace guys?

- Arlo Guthrie

massrighty on December 12, 2013 at 8:31 PM

I have no problem with multi ethnic santa clause.

Santa is big enough to be of any race. Heck… the guy could probably work for other religions… Who cares? Its not like he’s part of christian dogma. He was mostly a marketing stunt that got out of control. And the holiday is a wonderful holiday… why not share that with everyone?

Most other religions feel very left out during that season and that’s not to the season’s spirit.

Let santa be about giving and winter cheer.

Karmashock on December 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Conservative Santa rewards good kids with fun presents and gives bad kids just enough to keep warm.

Liberal Santa taxes parents that give too many presents and uses the money to set up an entitlement gift website for his supporters, but the website doesn’t work.

pedestrian on December 12, 2013 at 11:29 PM

I’ve always wondered – Is the traditional Christmas ham dinner an intentional slap at Jews?

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Whoa! Are you advocating this new form of the knock-out game?!

Shy Guy on December 13, 2013 at 1:47 AM

And a conservative.

Bitter Clinger on December 12, 2013 at 4:57 PM

And an NRA member.

Shy Guy on December 13, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Speaking of WHITE:

Jerusalem, Jerusalem, IL
11m
Efforts underway to rescue dozens of motorists trapped in snow in Jerusalem area – @haaretzcom
read more on twitter.com

canopfor on December 12, 2013 at 6:20 PM

About 35 centimeters on the ground. This is quite a lot for us. We haven’t had this since the early 90′s, when our oldest kids were little.

That was there first taste of snow – literally. We made snow cones for them. :)

The problem here is the ignorance of Israeli drivers when it comes to snow. They don’t realize how little accumulation it takes to get their cars slip-sliding away or into each other. Major intersections were blocked up all of yesterday with cars spinning their wheels and going nowhere fast.

It doesn’t help that trucks and buses were not equipped with snow chains. They were blocking intersections, too.

Nice and warm now at home, with the radiators running at full steam.

Shy Guy on December 13, 2013 at 2:04 AM

The term white is a socially divisive term perpetuated by congress to apportion tax payer monies based on race. In a “justice is blind” ideal the only questions the US Census Bureau should ask is “How many individuals live in your house and their age”.

Perhaps what they mean is was Saint Nicholas (a Byzantine) caucasian? No. He couldn’t be from the caucus mountains if he was of Greece, more specifically the place we know of today as Turkey.
However, the mythological Santa Claus is white because he was brought to the world by the Germans, then later given the red suit by Norman Rockwell and Coca Cola.

Lastly, Santa is whichever color that the child who believes in him makes him to be.
“Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!”

kregg on December 13, 2013 at 5:27 AM

Since St. Nicholas hails from Myra, an old Greek colony in Asia Minor, it is fair to say that his actual ‘race’ is pretty much unknown. Myra was a wealthy sea port and the admixture of peoples there had to be pretty diverse. Look at Greece, modern Turkey, plus the entire Eastern Med and you get the idea that ‘white’ doesn’t really fit there.

He was at the council of Nicea, however, and did not vote for what would become the Canon of books of the Bible. As devotee of Arian he was not a standard ‘trinitarian’ as we would come to know it, thus not part of the orthodoxy that would settle in the centuries after Nicea. For all of that he was from a wealthy family, ran a small parish (or its local equivalent) and was known for giving anonymous gifts to newlyweds or those in trouble from his own pocket or by asking fellow believers to help by donating to give a gift to those who needed a leg up in life.

As a Saint from a port city his area of interest is for sea goers and those making a living from the sea. I think he was the Patron Saint of Venice, with annual festivals on the water which, being built on islands and such, is pretty easy for Venice and a good fit.

He would get admixed later with other myths and folklore in the newly Christianized barbarian territories which had a great affinity for Arianism (as opposed to that cultural stuff relating to the area of modern Iran), and Christian gift-giving got caught up with seasonal parties and soon St. Nick was having a jolly old time with the barbarians.

ajacksonian on December 13, 2013 at 7:02 AM

One: This is sort of like the ObamaCare debate, no? Liberals identify some legit flaws in the current system, but then, in their mad social-engineering ambition to solve the problem, end up replacing it with something stupid.

According to Allahpundit if not Hot Air officially, the mere existence of Santa Claus as a white character is a “legit flaw in the current system”.

David Blue on December 13, 2013 at 7:29 AM

Linux Claus!

DethMetalCookieMonst on December 13, 2013 at 7:37 AM

Myra was a wealthy sea port and the admixture of peoples there had to be pretty diverse. Look at Greece, modern Turkey, plus the entire Eastern Med and you get the idea that ‘white’ doesn’t really fit there.

ajacksonian on December 13, 2013 at 7:02 AM

“Diversity” is code for “less white”.

Sometimes people disagree when I say that, but it’s true, and the way you can tell is that when people use “diverse” casually, they use it like this, as part of a dichotomy, with “white” on the other side. For example, I’ve seen liberals gloating that whites are a minority of the babies being born in America and saying America will soon be “majority diverse” as opposed to majority white. In that usage, which is normal, all non-whites count as “diverse” and no whites count as “diverse”. So a completely “diverse” world would be one where there are no whites.

When you say that a geographic region “had to be pretty diverse” and “‘white’ doesn’t really fit there” that’s broadly consistent with the normal usage.

“Diversity” as a policy goal is about getting rid of whites, by reducing them as a share of the population (through mass non-white immigration) and absolutely (by forced assimilation and measures that inhibit white fertility and subsidize non-white fertility). Or in a specific organization, a “diversity” goal will mean: hire and promote non-whites, not whites. The less white your department is, especially at the top, the better you will score on “diversity”.

“Diversity” is a feel-good buzz-word. But when you think about what it really means, that is getting rid of one race, it’s not really a nice thing at all.

David Blue on December 13, 2013 at 7:46 AM

Is Santa white? That anyone besides a four year old would ponder such a question is beyond me. We’ve become a nation of adult infants.

zoyclem on December 13, 2013 at 8:10 AM

I don’t care what de white mon say, Santa Claus was a black mon.

John the Libertarian on December 13, 2013 at 9:13 AM

“The Santa is a [BONG!!]”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcZ9ku_wInw

PD Quig on December 13, 2013 at 9:33 AM

St. Nicholas of Myra is the actual person “Santa Claus” is based on. He was a Greek Catholic Bishop in Lycia.

Ask his hometown – St. Nicholas Center > Four Faces of Nicholas—
Who is he in his hometown?

gocatholic on December 13, 2013 at 9:45 AM

That Slate writer is really on to something with being traumatized by the color of Santa.

Not the flying reindeer. Not Santa being aware of your every action and keeping a tally of how good you’ve been, breaking in to your house at the end of year to mete out justice with presents or coal. But he’s white.

gwelf on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Doesn’t seem you read the Slate piece.
Or if you did you missed the humor along with the rest of it.
Also seems you have your own Santa tale to tell.
Slate writer is suggesting Santa Penguin. (And jokingly, just so you know.)
Maybe yours can be Santa Criminal Intruder.

verbaluce on December 13, 2013 at 9:55 AM

Actually, he was Jewish…..

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM

And Palestinian.

BigAlSouth on December 13, 2013 at 9:57 AM

At the risk of being non-PC it seems reasonable to posit that Santa Claus is white based on him being a mythical figure based on a Nordic/Germanic historical figure. Every category does not need to be parceled out to every ethnic group.

katiejane on December 13, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Whoa! Are you advocating this new form of the knock-out game?!

Shy Guy on December 13, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Looks like a good game to play with Muslims.

dentarthurdent on December 13, 2013 at 11:21 AM

What difference, at this point, does it make?

(hmm. My keyboard has turned into a sticky typewriter where I have to hit the keys slowly and hard. Only while typing a post on HA.)

TerryW on December 13, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Actually, he was Jewish…..

dentarthurdent on December 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM

And Palestinian.

BigAlSouth on December 13, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Specifically…Judean.

” However, since “Palestine” has come down to the modern West through Rome (and to the modern Arabs through the West), the circumstances of its adoption as a Roman official name need to be considered. On the same grounds, the Roman name for the Land of Israel when Rome had its closest contact with the Jews and their land seems most significant for political discussion today.

Judea (Iudaea) was the Roman name for the Land of Israel during the heyday of the Roman Empire. This meant not only the area called Judea in Israel today; it included the whole area ruled and/or chiefly inhabited by Jews.

We can see this usage in various writers in Latin and Greek of that period. Consider Pliny, Suetonius, and Tacitus in Latin, and Plutarch as well as the geographers Strabo and Ptolemy in Greek. Judea stretched along both sides of the Jordan and included, besides Judea proper, most of the coastal plain, Samaria, most of the Galilee, the Golan Heights of today and considerable land to the east of there (areas called in Latin Gaulanitis [=Golan], Batanaea [=Bashan], Auranitis [=Hawran], and Trachonitis). The Romans called this land as a whole Iudaea (from the Greek Ioudaia). The land was mainly inhabited by Jews and was ruled by Jews.

Therefore, Lord Robert Cecil, acting British foreign secretary, was right to use the name Judea for the whole land in his famous remark: “Our wish is that Arabian countries shall be for the Arabs, Armenia for the Armenians, and Judea for the Jews” (December 2, 1917)….

The highly respected Enciclopedia Italiana (Vol. 26, “Palestina”; ca. 1930) tells us that the name “Palestine” came “to prevail in modern times” over other names. This change apparently took place out of the “scientific” motive to avoid the religious connotations of Holy Land. Thus Palestine was again a Western name as it had been in ancient times. “Palestine” was first officially applied to the country in modern times in 1920 when the peace negotiators at the San Remo Conference juridically established the country as the Jewish National Home. Before World War I it was an administratively indistinct area of the Ottoman Empire and was shared among various Ottoman administrative departments….”

http://www.esek.com/jerusalem/iudaea.html

workingclass artist on December 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Thanks, WCA. Very interesting.

BigAlSouth on December 13, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Of all the things to argue about. I’ve been to office parties that featured a white Santa, and others that featured a black Santa. Who the frick cares? It’s the red suit and the bag full of goodies that matter.

RebeccaH on December 13, 2013 at 12:16 PM

When was the last time a black Santa came to your house and left something.?

celtic warrior on December 13, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Ummm…….haven’t read all the comments……but unless the Vikings and early Europeans were black, I’m afraid that the good Bishop Nicholas was white.
The first Europeans to arrive in the New World brought St. Nicholas. Vikings dedicated their cathedral to him in Greenland.

http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/origin-of-santa/

If he’s black, then I’ll say that Mandela was white. Tit for tat, ya know.

avagreen on December 13, 2013 at 5:15 PM

OK……looks the subject has already been covered adequately…

avagreen on December 13, 2013 at 5:16 PM

The Road to Genocide is Paved with Liberal Intentions

The real problem the West had with South Africa was that the ruling tribe happened to be the wrong color.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/the_road_to_genocide_is_paved_with_liberal_intentions.html

Zcat on December 14, 2013 at 8:47 AM

The Road to Genocide is Paved with Liberal Intentions

Zcat on December 14, 2013 at 8:47 AM

So true.

David Blue on December 14, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Great googly moogly. http://conservativepost.com/the-sexiest-conservatives-alive/28/

LiberalGenius on December 14, 2013 at 7:22 PM

liberals think that Santa is half white and have black and instead of living in the north pole he lives in the White House and that some mythical rich white elf somewhere in the country is going to pay for their health care costs. They are going to be pretty disappointed on Christmas morning.

Dollayo on December 15, 2013 at 2:33 AM

It was a Viking custom at winter solstice to hang prisoners and criminals from trees in the sacred groves of Odin, Thus we have the Christmas Tree. Sometime along the way someone noticed that if they were hung upside down what was in their pockets would fall out. That’s where the custom of putting presents under the tree came from.

claudius on December 16, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Hate to break it to you Pink Supremacists, but Santa is an Inuit.

DarkCurrent on December 17, 2013 at 1:55 PM

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