Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on December 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

President Obama signaled Saturday that he was prepared to allow Iran to enrich uranium on its soil, saying that an eventual nuclear deal could be structured to ensure that Tehran’s program would be only for peaceful purposes…

“If we could create an option in which Iran eliminated every single nut and bolt of their nuclear program and forswore the possibility of ever having a nuclear program, and for that matter got rid of all its military capabilities, I would take it,” Obama said in a conversation with the center’s principal supporter, Los Angeles businessman Haim Saban.

“But I want to make sure everybody understands it – that particular option is not available. So as a consequence, what we have to do is make a decision as to, given the options available, what is the best way for us to [ensure] Iran does not get a nuclear weapon?”

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Iran is moving ahead with testing more efficient uranium enrichment technology, a spokesman for its atomic energy agency said on Saturday, in news that may concern world powers who last month agreed a deal to curb Tehran’s atomic activities.

Spokesman Behrouz Kamalvandi was quoted by state news agency IRNA as saying that initial testing on a new generation of more sophisticated centrifuges had been completed, underlining Iran’s determination to keep refining uranium in what it says is work to make fuel for a planned network of nuclear power plants.

Although the development does not appear to contravene the interim agreement struck between world powers and Iran last month, it may concern the West nonetheless, as the material can also provide the fissile core of a nuclear bomb if enriched to a high degree.

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Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) warned Sunday that if Iran does not satisfy the requirements of the interim agreement that curbs its nuclear program, then “sanctions are going to start flying out of Congress.”

“If the Iranians renege, if they cheat, then the deal is off. We not only resume the freeze, we add sanctions. But I don’t think we should take steps that aren’t necessary right now,” Schiff said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

While Schiff agrees with the White House that Congress should hold off on more powerful sanctions, Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Texas) says they’d serve as leverage.

“Iranians would know we’re serious about sanctions, and it would give us leverage for the administration in their talks,” McCaul said on “State of the Union.”

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Some advocates of war seem gripped by Thirties Envy, a longing for the clarity of the 1930s, when appeasement failed to slake the dictators’ thirst for territorial expansion. But the incantation “Appeasement!” is not an argument. And the word “appeasement” does not usefully describe a sober decision that war is an imprudent and even ultimately ineffective response to the failure of diplomatic and economic pressures to alter a regime’s choices about policies within its borders.

Israel’s superb air force is too small, when striking over great distances at hidden and hardened targets, to do more than set back Iran’s program a few years, at most. And an attack might cause Iran to expel the international inspectors or accelerate the crumbling of the sanctions, thereby speeding the reconstitution of the weapons program…

The agreement will not stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons; only a highly unlikely Iranian choice can do that. The agreement may, however, prevent a war to prevent Iran from acquiring such weapons. If Pollack is right, and he certainly is persuasive, we have two choices, war or containment. Those who prefer the former have an obligation to clearly say why its consequences would be more predictable and less dire than those in the disastrous war with Iraq.

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Momentum for sanctions is waning. It’s true that the economic relief the Iranians will receive in this deal is modest, but it is also true that many nations, many companies and the Iranians themselves are seeing this agreement as the beginning of the end of the sanctions regime. Iran is already making a push to recapture its dominant role in the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries. U.S. officials believe they can hold the line on sanctions, but it is reasonable to assume that they will come under increasing pressure from countries such as South Korea, Japan, India and China, which could very easily convince themselves that Iran is preparing to act in a more responsible manner (after all, it replaced its snarling, Holocaust-denying president with a smiling, savvy president) and should be reopened for business…

The biggest concession to the Iranians might have already been made. Although it is the West’s position that it has not granted Iran the so-called right to enrich, the text of the interim agreement states that the permanent deal will “involve a mutually defined enrichment program with mutually agreed parameters.” Essentially, Barack Obama’s administration has already conceded, before the main round of negotiations, that Iran is going to end up with the right to enrich. Realists would argue that Iran will end up with that “right” no matter what, but it seems premature to cede the point now…

One of Israel’s most prominent experts on the Iranian nuclear program, a former military intelligence chief named Amos Yadlin, said this week that “Iran is on the verge of producing a bomb. It’s sad, but it’s a fact.” Yadlin suggested that no one, and no agreement, can stop Iran from reaching the nuclear threshold. I fear he is right.

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“If you ask me what is the likelihood that we’re able to arrive at the end state … I wouldn’t say that it’s more than 50-50.”

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In their heyday, neoconservatives boasted that while anyone could go to Baghdad, real men hankered to go to Tehran. But as a venue for displaying American power, Baghdad proved a bust. In Tehran lies the possibility of finding a way out of perpetual war. Although by no means guaranteed, the basis for a deal exists: We accept the Islamic republic, they accept the regional status quo. They get survival, we get a chance to repair self-inflicted wounds. It’s the same bargain that Nixon offered Mao: Keep your revolution at home, and we’ll make our peace with it. Negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program provide the medium for achieving this larger end…

Although Americans have not yet fully digested the news, the United States no longer must defer to the Saudis. North American reserves of oil and natural gas are vastly greater than they appeared to be just a few years ago. As the prospect of something approximating energy independence beckons, the terms of the U.S.-Saudi alliance — they pump, we protect — are ripe for revision. Not so long ago, it seemed really, really important to keep the Saudi royal family happy. Far less so today.

Much the same applies to Israel. Easily the strongest power in its neighborhood and the only one possessing a nuclear arsenal, the Jewish state privileges its own security over all other considerations. It has every right to do so. What doesn’t follow is that Washington should underwrite or turn a blind eye to Israeli actions that run counter to U.S. interests, as is surely the case with continued colonization of the occupied territories. Just as Israel disregards U.S. objections to its expansion of settlements in the West Bank, the United States should refuse to allow Israeli objections to determine its policy toward Iran.

The exit from America’s misadventures in the region is through the door marked “Tehran.” Calling off the War for the Greater Middle East won’t mean that the political, social and economic problems roiling that part of the world will suddenly go away. They just won’t be problems that Uncle Sam is expected to solve. In this way, a presidency that began with optimism and hope but has proved such a letdown may yet achieve something notable.

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Via the Washington Free Beacon.

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Kerry said Washington would confer closely with its Israeli ally about crafting a permanent Iran agreement after the six-month confidence-building period laid out by the Geneva deal under which Iran will curb sensitive aspects of its nuclear program in exchange for limited relief from sanctions.

“I can’t emphasize enough that Israel’s security in this negotiation is at the top of our agenda and the United States will do everything in its power to make certain that Iran’s nuclear program, the program’s weaponisation possibilities, is terminated,” Kerry said.


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KOOLAID2 on December 9, 2013 at 12:08 AM

When I hear talk of his likeability I want to choke somebody.

KCB on December 9, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Congrats. Only took a little over 4 hours to get to page two. Sad.

KCB on December 9, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Dude, get in line! :-)

KCB on December 9, 2013 at 12:15 AM

….Line?! There’s a “Line“?………

….huh! sorry, didn’t mean to rent the “line” asunder!…..

williamg on December 9, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Hitler in DC hired all these, for DHS.

They all make btw. 75-100,000/yr, and can NOT be fired by another admin. There for life.

This takes shape instead of amnesty, in case Boehner caves and it doesn’t pass. It’s the same, if NO one has to leave or is not held back from entering the US.

Schadenfreude on December 9, 2013 at 12:25 AM

KCB on December 9, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Very sad. Maybe we can start a food fight to get things rolling.

Here goes: Ted Cruz can’t be prez cause he is Canadian.

SparkPlug on December 9, 2013 at 12:26 AM

I just realized that Obama has a chance to destroy the Democrat Party, alas he might also take the rest of us with him.

Obama being a possible communist is no longer the biggest problem with this man, he is just really stupid, yet Obama does not realize this which makes him dangerous.

William Eaton on December 9, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Barry is a chocolate chucklehead.

SparkPlug on December 9, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Cruz is Canadian!!??? Birth certificate please.

KCB on December 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM

In this way, a presidency that began with optimism and hope but has proved such a letdown may yet achieve something notable.

Choke on your tears, azzhole.

Schadenfreude on December 9, 2013 at 12:48 AM

I’d let Iran build whatever the hell they want.

But I would advise them that, from the instant that they have a nuclear weapon, they are the Designated Nuclear Scapegoat of Planet Earth.
If a nuclear weapon is exploded in the U.S. or in any ally’s land, Iran will be obliterated. Period. No excuses. No waiting period. No investigation as to who did it. No conditions whatsoever. See how they like carrying that mantle.
If they don’t build a nuke or if they give up any nuclear weapon(s) that they may have acquired, they are relieved of the “honor” of being the designated nuclear scapegoat. Give them a cookie for being good little juvenile delinquents.

I would predict that, after Iran and the other dirtbags of the world feign their usual unholy outrage, Iran will not only abandon any efforts at building a nuke, but will absolutely insist on having U.S. inspectors in every corner of their miserable country to be absolutely sure that we know they have no nukes.

This would also prevent any other a$$wipes of the world from trying to acquire a nuke.

Call it the Scapegoat Doctrine. Whatever.

justltl on December 9, 2013 at 1:02 AM

justltl on December 9, 2013 at 1:02 AM

In a perfect world, you’d be right. But threatening the crazy or people who believe that complete world destruction will bring the Twelfth Imam as their savior is a fool’s errand. Such people need to be wiped from the face of the earth, even if it means some innocents get wiped out as well. It’s them or us, and no diplomacy or tongue wagging will change that paradigm. With this kind of evil, it’s kill or be killed.

TXUS on December 9, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Go Bibi Go!
*Husband is watching ‘The Pacific’ and has requested my presence. Be back later.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 8, 2013 at 9:11 PM

It wasn’t as good as “Band of Brothers”. It played up the bogus “Americans are racist” angle while hardly showing anything of the racism and savagery of the Empire of Japan.

Alberta_Patriot on December 9, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Any theories as to why it’s been so slow?

KCB on December 8, 2013 at 11:43 PM

It’s the auto-play video ads. And, yeah, I know, Firefox adblocker.blah blah…

Ed needs to start his own site and take AP with him.

WhatSlushfund on December 9, 2013 at 2:24 AM

I don’t think it’s the auto-play ads.

Axe on December 9, 2013 at 2:41 AM

Why? Unleash yourself.

bazil9 on December 8, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Because I would be startin’ somethin’ I couldn’t finish.

cozmo on December 8, 2013 at 11:29 PM

That’s what she said. :)

Axe on December 9, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Good thing that Mary Katherine Ham didn’t ban me for disagreeing with her as one user warned. Phew… Now, if I leave this site it won’t be because I got banned, but rather that with all of the links to paywalls and general RINOism by some contributors, but not really Allahpundit, in particular, if anyone can believe that. The former can’t make an argument for their RINO ways, the latter seems to be torn, but at least uses his noodle, unlike the others.

Corporal Tunnel on December 9, 2013 at 2:45 AM

I don’t think it’s the auto-play ads.

Axe on December 9, 2013 at 2:41 AM

At least you tacitly acknowledge that the comments are decreasing.

Seriously, this is not difficult people.

WhatSlushfund on December 9, 2013 at 2:51 AM

At least you tacitly acknowledge that the comments are decreasing.

Seriously, this is not difficult people.

WhatSlushfund on December 9, 2013 at 2:51 AM

There’s a reason for that as sure enough that there’s a reason that Nelson Mandela was in prison.

Corporal Tunnel on December 9, 2013 at 2:58 AM

Is the always intellectual & delightful Melissa Harris-Perry trying to compete with fellow former MSNBC host Martin Brassiere, who said, “Republicans are using it [the IRS scandal] as their latest weapon in the war against the black man in the White House”?

MSNBC host equates ‘Obamacare’ with N-word

MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry suggested the term “Obamacare” and the N-word are interchangeable, claiming both were “conceived by a group of wealthy white men who needed to . . . render [a black man] inferior and unequal and diminish his accomplishments.”

Harris-Perry opened her show Sunday morning with a sober monologue on President Obama’s push to rebrand his failing healthcare law:

HARRIS-PERRY: “I want to talk today about a controversial word. It’s a word that has been with us for years. And like it or not, it’s indelibly printed in the pages of American history. A word that was originally intended as a derogatory term, meant to shame and divide and demean. The word was conceived of by a group of wealthy white men who needed a way to put themselves above and apart from a black man, to render him inferior and unequal and diminish his accomplishments.

“President Obama has been labelled with this word by his opponents, and at first he rose above it, hoping that if he could just make a cause for what he’d achieved, his opponents would fail in making their label stick. But no matter how many successes that he had as president, he realized there were still many people for whom he’d never be anything more than that one disparaging word — a belief he knew was held not just by his political opponents, but also by a significant portion of the American electorate.

“And so he decided if you can’t beat them, you’ve got to join them. So he embraced the word and made it his own, sending his opposition a message they weren’t expecting: ‘If that’s what you want me to be, I’ll be that.’

“Y’all know the word that I’m talking about. Obamacare! That’s right! I said it and I’m not ashamed, and neither is President Obama!”

The MSNBC host doubled down on the racially-charged segment as she ticked off the president’s accomplishments and how they are apparently diminished by the “Obamacare” slur.

“I mean, what do you call the president who rescues the U.S. auto industry?” she said sarcastically. “Obamacare! What do you call the president who finally eliminates Osama bin Laden? Obamacare! What do you call the president who ends don’t ask don’t tell? Say it with me: Obamacare!”

No one knows for sure who first coined the term “Obamacare,” or if they were truly the “group of wealthy white men” Harris-Perry claims. But the history of racist code words may be even more extensive than Harris-Perry realizes.

Anti-Control on December 9, 2013 at 3:03 AM

It’s the auto-play video ads. And, yeah, I know, Firefox adblocker.blah blah…

Ed needs to start his own site and take AP with him.

WhatSlushfund on December 9, 2013 at 2:24 AM

“the auto-play video ads”? Seriously? And, to idly complain about that rather than installing a flash/ad blocker that solves the problem…hmm…

Anti-Control on December 9, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Midnight and there’s no one else around
Streetlights all across this empty town

Everything is still the same
So when you gonna come back?
The trees are singing your name
So when you gonna come back?

You slip by my window
You go Where the Wind Blows

Moonlight chase the shadows all away
Starry night and it always ends this way

Morning and I know there’s something wrong
And I realize that your lost instead
Lost instead and gone

Anti-Control on December 9, 2013 at 3:38 AM

“the auto-play video ads”? Seriously? And, to idly complain about that rather than installing a flash/ad blocker that solves the problem…hmm…

Anti-Control on December 9, 2013 at 3:31 AM

No such option for an iPad… I wouldn’t call it “hellish”…

More like the Check-In desk…

PointnClick on December 9, 2013 at 3:45 AM

No such option for an iPad… I wouldn’t call it “hellish”…

More like the Check-In desk…

PointnClick on December 9, 2013 at 3:45 AM

I did a quick Google search, and see that people are mentioning using flash blockers on iPads…what iPad/OS are you using?

Anti-Control on December 9, 2013 at 3:55 AM

PnC, I should ask what browser you are using, too.

Anti-Control on December 9, 2013 at 3:55 AM

“I Say Nothing”

“Our Lips Are Sealed”

Anti-Control on December 9, 2013 at 4:05 AM

At least you tacitly acknowledge that the comments are decreasing.

Seriously, this is not difficult people.

WhatSlushfund on December 9, 2013 at 2:51 AM

I explicitly acknowledge that the comments are decreasing. :)

I just don’t think it’s the ads.

Axe on December 9, 2013 at 4:17 AM

iPads don’t do Flash anyway… I don’t get to see about a quarter of the embedded vids here at Hot Gas because they are Flash. But most of the ads are QuickTime and other formats that autoplay just fine…

PointnClick on December 9, 2013 at 4:18 AM

iPads don’t do Flash anyway… I don’t get to see about a quarter of the embedded vids here at Hot Gas because they are Flash.

Searching at Google, it says that Flash can be used on iPads – you just need a browser that will support it.

But most of the ads are QuickTime and other formats that autoplay just fine

PointnClick on December 9, 2013 at 4:18 AM

lol :(

I hate auto-playing ads – anything to defeat them! One way:

Block ads…and whatever you want. On any iOS device, in any browser or app. [Weblock - $1.99]

Glenn Frey – “You Belong to the City”

Anti-Control on December 9, 2013 at 4:46 AM

good morning HA….

so what will the meme be this am?

mandela or obamacare?

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 5:36 AM

so obama is doing his unilateral schtick again with Iran, huh…

what an idiot to think Iran is going to follow through on anything…

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 5:37 AM

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 5:36 AM

Good morning! We are counting on you to tell us this morning’s meme!

Hope you had a wonderful weekend.

esr1951 on December 9, 2013 at 5:58 AM

esr1951 on December 9, 2013 at 5:58 AM

I did have a great weekend thanks :)

well it looks like we need to extend the umemployment bennies, bashing rand paul…poverty and income inequality is the meme of the day it seems on morning joe…

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 6:07 AM

gop are evil heartless people apparently…

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 6:10 AM

Income inequality. Sheesh (rolling eyes).

At least there seems to be no more Mandela. Is that true?

esr1951 on December 9, 2013 at 6:10 AM

mika mouth agape cannot believe the utter craziness of cutting off unemployment benefits after 99 weeks.

the dastardly rethugs trying to cut food stamps and benefits in the middle of a recession.

renalin on December 9, 2013 at 6:10 AM

When starting any conversation with a liberal, I now just stipulate that I am an evil person. Just get that part out of the way so we can then talk issues.

esr1951 on December 9, 2013 at 6:13 AM

esr1951 on December 9, 2013 at 6:10 AM

not yet….

renalin on December 9, 2013 at 6:10 AM

we are all heartless scum don’t ya know…

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 6:14 AM

esr1951 on December 9, 2013 at 6:13 AM

heh

will they actually listen to you?

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 6:15 AM

lol howard dean say the gop can’t talk about dem issues because they don’t know what they are talking about, but he and the dems have no problems trying to dissect the gop

what a hypocrite…

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 6:20 AM

Obama is lying and Kerry is stupid. I would bet that’s the view Israel holds, Iran holds, Russia holds and Saudi Arabia holds. Experience with these two suggests its probably the right view.

MTF on December 9, 2013 at 6:38 AM

MTF on December 9, 2013 at 6:38 AM

yepper

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 6:43 AM

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 6:20 AM

LOL!

renalin on December 9, 2013 at 6:44 AM

And Jeff Goldberg, master apologist for the Obama/Chamberlain axis, has crafted a deeply dishonest analysis of the situation. Purportedly he frets, but truthfully he cannot but acknowledge that any sanctions relief is devastating to peace. The issue, as he well knows isn’t the sanctions relief itself, it’s the breakdown of the very tenuous coalition that enforces any sanctions at all. Rebuilding support for expanded sanctions will be nigh on impossible for this administration, and Goldberg knows it. To pretend renewed sanctions or even expanded sanctions are going to be the consequence of Iranian perfidy is just naive; the Germans, French, Russians and Chinese won’t toe that line for this administration and the Obama administration wouldn’t really to even try to make it happen anyway.

MTF on December 9, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.
Obamacare is to America’s Healthcare System what the Yugo was to affordable transportation.
My take: Obamacare: Higher Prices and Limited Access to Cancer Treatment Centers. What a Deal.

kingsjester on December 9, 2013 at 6:51 AM

Great take KJ :)

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 7:26 AM

cmsinaz on December 9, 2013 at 7:26 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on December 9, 2013 at 7:33 AM

…150…or bust?

KOOLAID2 on December 9, 2013 at 9:50 PM

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