A Date Which Will Live in Infamy

posted at 8:31 am on December 7, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Perhaps it’s fitting that the Vice President is winding up a tour of Asian nations as this day arrives. The media is still obsessed with celebrity activities and I don’t see much recognition of this very dark anniversary, but it is certainly worth our time to remember the words of FDR some 24 hours after the events of a very bad day 72 years ago today.

Yesterday, December 7, 1941—a date which will live in infamy—the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

The United States was at peace with that nation, and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its government and its emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific. Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in the American island of Oahu, the Japanese ambassador to the United States and his colleague delivered to our secretary of state a formal reply to a recent American message. While this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or armed attack.

It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time the Japanese government has deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.

Oddly enough, this subject came up while eating with family members over the Thanksgiving break. One objection (of sorts) was raised, noting that at least such things are no longer likely to happen and we couldn’t be taken by surprise that way today. It’s true that radar capabilities were very limited in 1941 and it’s highly unlikely that an entire naval armada could be moved within striking distance of any US property without our seeing it in the modern era. But since a reminder seems to be needed, it’s worth remembering the words of another President nearly sixty years after FDR’s speech.

I want you all to know that America today, America today is on bended knee, in prayer for the people whose lives were lost here, for the workers who work here, for the families who mourn. The nation stands with the good people of New York City and New Jersey and Connecticut as we mourn the loss of thousands of our citizens.

I can hear you! I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you! And the people — and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!

The nation — The nation sends its love and compassion to everybody who is here. Thank you for your hard work. Thank you for makin’ the nation proud, and may God bless America.

There are parallels between 1941 and today, even if they aren’t glaringly obvious. We still live in an age when older “empires” are less involved in global affairs than they once were and others who were previously weak – or at least inert – are in their ascendency. Not every obnoxious action by a foreign power is a casus belli, but that doesn’t change the fact that America needs to remain perpetually vigilant. Whether it’s North Korea’s constant saber rattling and provocations, Iran’s hollow sounding promises or China’s growing sea power capabilities and expanded air control zone, the world is never truly at peace. We were supposed to learn from those speeches I referenced above. And for what it’s worth, there are those who still remember Pearl Harbor and what we need to recall from that day.

For Lauren Bruner, remembrances of the attack on Pearl Harbor were burned onto his very body.

Now 93, Bruner was a 21-year-old fire controlman petty officer aboard the USS Arizona the day the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, killing 2,402 people.

Bruner was gravely injured in the bombing, receiving burns to more than 70 percent of his body.

He was in Tucson this week to commemorate the 72nd anniversary of the attack and to speak with groups of University of Arizona students and veterans. Bruner also viewed the collected USS Arizona memorabilia held at the UA Library’s special collections.

He is one of a handful of surviving crewmen from aboard the ship that day, and still makes trips to the annual reunion events.

Thank you, Petty Officer Bruner. Salute.


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But, not on Google!

No mention of the day.

massrighty on December 7, 2013 at 8:37 AM

A Date Which Will Live in Infamy

…the date….the current President…took office!

KOOLAID2 on December 7, 2013 at 8:46 AM

How will Obama interject himself into today’s remembrance ?

celtic warrior on December 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Koolaid2: Excellent.

…the date….the current President…took office!

KOOLAID2 on December 7, 2013 at 8:46 AM

celtic warrior on December 7, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Rest in peace, shipmates. There are many among us who still remember.

NavyMustang on December 7, 2013 at 8:52 AM

On this date I rarely forget the attack on Pearl Harbor. One event that truly changed the course of history.

Kevin K. on December 7, 2013 at 8:54 AM

But, not on Google!

No mention of the day.

massrighty on December 7, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Too busy memorializing former terrorist and communist leader Nelson Mandela to take note of the day of infamy.

Count to 10 on December 7, 2013 at 8:56 AM

How will Obama interject himself into today’s remembrance ?

celtic warrior on December 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM

I’m guessing he will ignore it beyond the pro forma proclamation. A proper remembrance would remind the public about the importance of the military–a military that he is hoping to reduce in power and scope.

Kevin K. on December 7, 2013 at 8:56 AM

The current occupant will inject himself into this day of infamy by releasing a photo shopped pic of himself body surfing past the memorial in Pearl Harbor. Much the same as the photo released of himself standing in Mandela’s jail cell on the very day the man died. Never let a crisis go to waste.

Kissmygrits on December 7, 2013 at 9:00 AM

A better view of salvaged Battleship West Virginia.

forest on December 7, 2013 at 9:01 AM

How will Obama interject himself into today’s remembrance ?

celtic warrior on December 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM

“Being from Hawaii, I…..”

Kafir on December 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Our enemies didn’t know us then and they don’t know us now. I had an employee in the mid 80′s who’s brother was lost on one of those ships sunk that day. He still had a very strong animosity, hatred really, toward the Japanese.

Kissmygrits on December 7, 2013 at 9:03 AM

The biggest difference between 1941 / 2001 / and 2013 is that the next attack will likely be launched by the enemy within, who currently resides in OUR White House – until he is removed from office, America is in grave peril.

Pork-Chop on December 7, 2013 at 9:12 AM

December 7, 1941 — a massive attack by an empire
September 11, 2001 — multiple attacks by extremist believers in an ideology.

???? ?? ???? — how and where and when and by whom will the next attack come from? And will the United States of America be worth another attack? For the latter, I hope so. You don’t boo nobodies, and you don’t attack nothings.

rbj on December 7, 2013 at 9:13 AM

“Now at this very moment I knew that the United States was in the war, up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all! … How long the war would last or in what fashion it would end no man could tell, nor did I at this moment care … We should not be wiped out. Our history would not come to an end … Hitler’s fate was sealed. Mussolini’s fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to a powder. All the rest was merely the proper application of overwhelming force.”

forest on December 7, 2013 at 9:14 AM

But, not on Google!

No mention of the day.

massrighty on December 7, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Too busy memorializing former terrorist and communist leader Nelson Mandela to take note of the day of infamy.

Count to 10 on December 7, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Really? Hating on Google and Mandella?

urban elitist on December 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Really? Hating on Google and Mandella?

urban elitist on December 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Funny the things you comment on. You’re lame.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 7, 2013 at 9:18 AM

A dark day in history, but one that is marked on every calendar I use…

Being retired Navy, it has a special meaning…

Khun Joe on December 7, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Dec 7th 1941(November 2 2010)
==============================

Today,November 2 2010

a date which will live in infamy – the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Liberal Party.

The DNC, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Tea Party area. The facts of yesterday speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.

As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.

Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe I interpret the will of the Tea Party and of the Patriots when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again in our
Voting!!

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger. Make Damn Sure You Vote.

With confidence in our armed forces – with the unbounded determination of our people – we will gain the inevitable triumph – so help us God.

I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by the DNC on Sunday, December seventh, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Democrat Party.—-(Snark)

canopfor on October 6, 2010 at 10:42 PM

canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 9:23 AM

08 Swing and Sway with Sammy Kaye – Remember Pearl Harbor
(Radio Days Soundtrack)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ffJr4Dsm_c

canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM

A better view of salvaged Battleship West Virginia.

forest on December 7, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Taken in Tokyo Bay in August 1945. That must have been a very, very sweet time for that crew.

NavyMustang on December 7, 2013 at 9:29 AM

massrighty on December 7, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Another reason to use Bing.

cozmo on December 7, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Salvage Imagery:

Pearl Harbor Salvage Operations – Washington Post March
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCxjgZ1IOa8

canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Another reason to use Bing.

cozmo on December 7, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Thanks. That is pretty awesome.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 7, 2013 at 9:33 AM

I…..I….I….I….I….I….I:
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President Issues Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day Proclamation
Story Number:

NNS131206-16Release Date: 12/6/2013 12:22:00 PM
From American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON (NNS) — President Barack Obama issued a proclamation declaring Dec. 7, 2013, as National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day.

Here is the text of the president’s proclamation:

More than seven decades ago, on a calm Sunday morning, our Nation was attacked without warning or provocation. The bombs that fell on the island of Oahu took almost 2,400 American lives, damaged our Pacific Fleet, challenged our resilience, and tested our resolve. On National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day, we honor the men and women who selflessly sacrificed for our country, and we show our enduring gratitude to all who fought to defend freedom against the forces of tyranny and oppression in the Second World War.

In remembrance of Pearl Harbor and to defend our Nation against future attacks, scores of young Americans enlisted in the United States military. In battle after battle, our troops fought with courage and honor. They took the Pacific theater island by island, and eventually swept through Europe, liberating nations as they progressed. Because of their extraordinary valor, America emerged from this test as we always do — stronger than ever before.

We also celebrate those who served and sacrificed on the home front — from families who grew Victory Gardens or donated to the war effort to women who joined the assembly line alongside workers of every background and realized their own power to build a brighter world. Together, our Greatest Generation overcame the Great Depression, and built the largest middle class and strongest economy in history.

Today, with solemn pride and reverence, let us remember those who fought and died at Pearl Harbor, acknowledge everyone who carried their legacy forward, and reaffirm our commitment to upholding the ideals for which they served.

The Congress, by Public Law 103-308, as amended, has designated December 7 of each year as “National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day.”

NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, do hereby proclaim December 7, 2013, as National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day. I encourage all Americans to observe this solemn day of remembrance and to honor our military, past and present, with appropriate ceremonies and activities. I urge all Federal agencies and interested organizations, groups, and individuals to fly the flag of the United States at half-staff this December 7 in honor of those American patriots who died as a result of their service at Pearl Harbor.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this fifth day of December, in the year of our Lord two thousand thirteen, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-eighth.

BARACK OBAMA

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=78101

http://www.navy.mil/

canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 9:35 AM

For some color video of the USS ARIZONA you’ve probably never seen, go to:

http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/

Khun Joe on December 7, 2013 at 9:37 AM

urban elitist on December 7th, 2013 at 9:16 AM

If Jazz hadn’t posted this, I wonder if you would even realize the significance of Dec. 7th. And if you did, I imagine you figure the Japanese were justified due to US imperialism in the Pacific theater or something along those lines.

Bitter Clinger on December 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Pearl Harbour Imagery:

Pearl Harbor Raid
7 December 1941

Photo Collection Selections

Wreck of USS Arizona
USS California (BB 44) during the attack
USS Oglala during and shortly after the attack
USS West Virginia and USS Tennessee after attack
Salvage of USS Oklahoma
USS Utah (AG 16)
USS Vestal during the attack
Damage ashore at Pearl Harbor Navy Yard
USS Shaw (DD 373)
USS Arizona Memorial
Remembrance of the “date which will live in infamy”

http://www.history.navy.mil/special%20Highlights/Pearl%20Harbor/Pearl_Harbor_Resources.htm

http://www.history.navy.mil/

canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Why continue to feed the trolls? unelite and partsgone get their jollies when someone responds. Too bad HA doesn’t have an “ignore” feature.

Wino on December 7, 2013 at 9:49 AM

I looked for a mention on the official White House site as well as in the transcript of the President’s Weekly Address (“Calling on Congress to Extend Unemployment Benefits this Holiday Season”), which happens to fall on December 7.

Pearl Harbor doesn’t really fit into his narrative though.

Drained Brain on December 7, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Funny the things you comment on. You’re lame.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 7, 2013 at 9:18 AM

It’s been pretty slim pickings for the liberal Toilet Bugs at HA for the last few months…

They gotta take what they can get.

BigWyo on December 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

It’s been pretty slim pickings for the liberal Toilet Bugs at HA for the last few months…

They gotta take what they can get.

BigWyo on December 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Yep –troll boy avoids the O-care threads.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 7, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Oddly enough, this subject came up while eating with family members over the Thanksgiving break. One objection (of sorts) was raised, noting that at least such things are no longer likely to happen and we couldn’t be taken by surprise that way today. It’s true that radar capabilities were very limited in 1941 and it’s highly unlikely that an entire naval armada could be moved within striking distance of any US property without our seeing it in the modern era.

Such high-damage attacks as Pearl Harbor and 9/11 tend to be tailored to negate protective precautions.

The IJN task force neutralized most of our defensive perimeter by fairly simple means. For instance, they left their radio operators “at home” at the training base on the Inland Sea. There, they sent bogus messages back and forth,.= which were duly picked up by U.S. and British monitoring stations, which identified the radio operators by their distinctive “fist”, or way of operating the code key for Morse transmission. (It’s as individual as a fingerprint, and nearly impossible to fake, even today.)

This “confirmed” U.S. and British intel that had the Combined Fleet carrying out scheduled exercises in home waters; said “exercises” having been scheduled as part of the cover for the actual mission.

While this was going on, the task force maintained strict radio silence until the “To-to-to!” message indicating surprise had been achieved was sent back from the lead plane of the attack force. (All signals between ships were passed by flag hoists and semaphore.)

The attack force was detected inbound by a U.S. Army radar unit- and was mistaken for a flight of B-17s scheduled to arrive from the mainland that morning. (The Fortresses landed after the attack was over, having been late taking off; lucky for them, as their defensive guns were stowed and not loaded. Peacetime, you know.)

The diplomatic brief breaking off negotiations was supposed to have been delivered a half-hour before the attack began, but was delayed simply because it took the embassy staff longer to decrypt it and translate it from Japanese into English than anticipated. This was to have been a deliberate ploy to avoid being accused of an unprovoked attack without a formal declaration of hostilities under the Hague Accords, but it backfired.

9/11 was a fundamentally different sort of attack. Rather than using deception measures and negotiation to prevent warning of its coming, it exploited a weakness in our security procedures (the policy of not opposing airline hijackings by force) to provide the attackers with improvised weapons (the airliners themselves) which could destroy major targets simply due to physics.

Neither sort of attack is likely to succeed again, as stated.

However, in a world in which compact weapons of mass destruction ranging from chemical and biological agents to nuclear devices are becoming increasingly easily available to terrorist groups- and terrorist nation-states- it doesn’t take more than a few people and some creative transport and positioning to result in a strike at least as damaging as Pearl Harbor or 9/11, if not more so.

For such attacks, civilized societies are by definition “soft targets”.

clear ether

eon

eon on December 7, 2013 at 10:00 AM

In remembrance of Pearl Harbor and to defend our Nation against future attacks, scores [emphasis added] of young Americans enlisted in the United States military.

I know this is a minor point, but “scores”??!! Groups of twenty?

It looks to me as though the White House proclamation writers know nothing about Pearl Harbor or World War II, or the millions–around 12 million, according to the National WWII Museum–of Americans under arms.

Kevin K. on December 7, 2013 at 10:01 AM

I can’t stand donks generally, but one thing that I credit Roosevelt with was that he recognized evil for what it was when he saw it and knew that the only way to defeat it was to stand up and fight it.

We were caught with our pants around our ankles at Pearl Harbor, that is true, but at least by then we were well along the way to preparing for war, thanks to Roosevelt: we had mobilized our reserves and instituted our first peacetime draft, we were gearing up our production of tanks, aircraft and munitions, and were engaged in a naval shipbuilding program that was already gargantuan — of the US Navy’s capital ships that joined the fleet through 1942, most had been laid down in 1940; of the 15 Essex-class aircraft carriers that saw action in the war, all but two were ordered in 1940.

Imagine what our situation would have been on December 8, 1941 if Barry-O had been president then: “The reset button! Push the reset button! I told Hirohito and Hitler that I’d hold out my hand… B-b-but the Japanese promised….”

Funny thing is, we are repeating the 1930s today. The forces of tyranny are gathering strength, they are announcing their “plans” for what they call a New World Order… but instead of recognizing them for what they are and gearing up to fight them, we are unilaterally disarming and concluding our own versions of the Munich Accord.

It’s only a matter of time before our adversaries today become our enemies tomorrow, and only a matter of time before we are sucked into a major, quite possibly nuclear regional war in the Middle East or Southeast Asia. And the man who is going to make it inevitable is also the man who is going to make sure that we’re going to be unprepared for it when it happens.

“Interesting Times” are just around the corner…

“You were given the choice between war and appeasement. You chose appeasement, and you shall have war.”

Spurius Ligustinus on December 7, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Another reason to use Bing.

cozmo on December 7, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Thanks. That is pretty awesome.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 7, 2013 at 9:33 AM

+1

Khun Joe on December 7, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Really? Hating on Google and Mandella?

urban elitist on December 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Google is run by leftist obamabot suck-butts…

…and mandela was a communist terrorist – who hated the United States.

What’s not to hate?

Solaratov on December 7, 2013 at 10:05 AM

For some color video of the USS ARIZONA you’ve probably never seen, go to:

http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/

Khun Joe on December 7, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Khun Joe: Wow, thanks for the link:0

canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 10:05 AM

and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!

The Saudis? They were exempt due to many American friends and money partners.

BL@KBIRD on December 7, 2013 at 10:20 AM

I am still struggling with forgiving liberals for the attack at Pearl Harbor.

trs on December 7, 2013 at 10:33 AM

I don’t even feel like I know enough about those times in our history, can you imagine our current generation?

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2013 at 10:33 AM

How will Obama interject himself into today’s remembrance ?

celtic warrior on December 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM

“Being from Hawaii, I…..”

Kafir on December 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Nailed it, Kafir.

davidk on December 7, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Really? Hating on Google and Mandella?

urban elitist on December 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Observing facts is now hating?

Count to 10 on December 7, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Today I remember the tragic attack upon Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.

Fallon on December 7, 2013 at 11:11 AM

… and so started my Grandfathers boat ride to Australia for one week of bootcamp,,, then New guinea.

Really becomes real when I see his captured jap 7.7mm with the bullet in the stock.

~~~~~~~~

Fair winds and following seas, fellow squids.

wolly4321 on December 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Another reason to use Bing.

cozmo on December 7, 2013 at 9:29 AM

I just set that as my background picture. I love Bing.

gophergirl on December 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM

I’ll never forget when my friend was telling me about her honeymoon in Hawaii. She said they went to the Arizona but she really didn’t understand what the big deal about it was.

I almost slapped her.

I guess I should add she now drinks out of Barack/Michelle Obama coffee mug every morning.

OT – happy birthday to my Dad. When I was a kid I actually thought he was born on “the” Pearl Harbor day. Took me a couple of years to realize he was born after the war.

gophergirl on December 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Really? Hating on Google and Mandella?
 
urban elitist on December 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

 
I wouldn’t have figured you for a Haldeman fan.

rogerb on December 7, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Happy Birthday to GG’s Dad. :)

wolly4321 on December 7, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Really? Hating on Google and Mandella?

urban elitist on December 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Not really “invested” in the Mandela controversy, but when you see Google recognizing other religious holidays and occasions, and then don’t see them release a peep about Christmas, then yeah, they’re biased policies are worth hating.

Rovin on December 7, 2013 at 11:43 AM

I wonder if Obama will read FDR’s Pearl Harbor Speech, and edit out God, like he did to Lincoln’s Gettysburg speech.

portlandon on December 7, 2013 at 11:43 AM

We were supposed to learn from those speeches I referenced above.

Nah…Now we gotz twitter and kewel drones and stuff…

workingclass artist on December 7, 2013 at 11:44 AM

I wonder if Obama will read FDR’s Pearl Harbor Speech, and edit out God, like he did to Lincoln’s Gettysburg speech.

portlandon on December 7, 2013 at 11:43 AM

If he could only insert a selfie at a photoshopped Pearl Harbor…

workingclass artist on December 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM

I wouldn’t have figured you for a Haldeman fan.

rogerb on December 7, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Are you REALLY surprised s/he’s a Haldeman fan? They are both Leftists.

Pretty much any Joe Haldeman book is the same as any other….Government BAD, WAR bad…deus ex machina solution at end…..

JFKY on December 7, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Funny thing is, we are repeating the 1930s today. The forces of tyranny are gathering strength, they are announcing their “plans” for what they call a New World Order

Spurius Ligustinus on December 7, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Intersting site for Interesting Times

“Generational Dynamics is a historical methodology that analyzes historical events through the flow of generations, and uses the analysis to forecast future events by comparing today’s generational attitudes to those of the past.
This site provides analysis and forecasts of international news, politics, culture and finance…”

http://www.generationaldynamics.com/ww2010.htm

workingclass artist on December 7, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Lefties are too busy idolizing their own to take notice.

http://www.cpusa.org/long-live-nelson-mandela/

wolly4321 on December 7, 2013 at 12:02 PM

WTH:And,..below the offending Tweet:

food
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Food brand SpaghettiOs apologizes after sending tweet on Pearl Harbor Day that many found offensive – @SpaghettiOs
end of bulletin

https://twitter.com/SpaghettiOs
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http://www.bitterwallet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Screenshot_2013-12-07-14-31-51-1.png

http://www.bitterwallet.com/spaghettios-cheerily-celebrate-pearl-harbour/70444

canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Count to 10 on December 7, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Really? Hating on Democrat Search Engine Google and Mandella?

urban effetist on December 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Fixed, except for one part. I think it’s cute that you lecture others on “hate”, but can’t even spell Nelson Mandela’s last name correctly!

F+

As for Google…from 2007

Google has finally defused the “Google Bomb” that has returned US President George W. Bush at the top of its results in a search on miserable failure. The move wasn’t a post-State Of The Union Address gift for Bush. Instead, it’s part of an overall algorithm change designed to stop such mass link pranks from working.

It took Google 3 years to fix this flaw. Obviously they’re the ones who O’bao picked to set up Healthcare.gov!

Del Dolemonte on December 7, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Happy Birthday to GG’s Dad. :)

wolly4321 on December 7, 2013 at 11:39 AM

:)

gophergirl on December 7, 2013 at 12:12 PM

No doubt urban effetist will call this “Hate” as well…

/

Outrage expressed after WWII vet allegedly bumped from Honolulu-bound flight

More fall-out on Facebook for United Airlines as word continues to spread after a World War II veteran was bumped from his flight to Oahu.

A United spokesperson says the airlines had no choice but to remove 41 passengers in order to add more fuel to make it through inclement weather from L-A to Honolulu Wednesday.

Hawaii News Now spoke with a pilot who flies Boeing 737′s — he says there are very strict weight restrictions for the aircraft and it’s not uncommon for airlines to limit passengers and bags in order to meet safety regulations.

United would not provide specific details on how the 41 people who were pulled from the flight were selected but say a number of factors are taken into consideration, including the passenger’s fare class, itinerary and check-in time.

90-year-old Ewalt Shatz says he explained to two desk agents and a supervisor that he was a WWII vet invited to attend a remembrance ceremony as a Pearl Harbor survivor.

-snip-

Shatz was on his way to Hawai’i Wednesday when he was bumped from his United Airlines flight from Los Angeles to Honolulu because he was told the plane was overweight.

According to Shatz, he explained to United employees that he was on his way to a remembrance ceremony at the USS Arizona memorial to mark the 72nd anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor, but still wasn’t allowed to board.

“I thought that they just overbooked the deal and they were trying to get rid of a couple of customers and somebody had my seat — and that’s what made me mad, because I paid for that seat. I paid for that seat and somebody else is sitting in it,” said Shatz.

Del Dolemonte on December 7, 2013 at 12:14 PM

canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 9:42 AM

What’s interesting to me is that out of all of the Battleships that were sunk at Pearl Harbor all but three were raised, repaired and returned to action.

Everyone knows about the USS Arizona who is joined by the lesser known USS Utah at Pearl Harbor. The USS Oklahoma was raised but sunk while being towed back to the United States.

Makes me hope the United States are still strong enough to survive and recover when severe damage is inflicted on them.

TooTall on December 7, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Veterans, all who served, dead or alive, this is what you sacrificed/sacrifice for, the flag ordered around for marxist-commies around the world, not for Americans any more.

obama is a traitor to the USA.

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Veterans, all who served, dead or alive, this is what you sacrificed/sacrifice for, the flag ordered around for marxist-commies around the world, not for Americans any more.

obama is a traitor to the USA.

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM

He could raise the Bonnie Blue right under the Stars and Stripes.

Murphy9 on December 7, 2013 at 12:45 PM

My dad was assigned to the Arizona. When she left port, he was in the hospital having his tonsils removed. When I think on this, I have no words.

Visiting the Pearl Harbor Memorial was the greatest part of my vacation in Hawaii.

May God bless America and the military forces who defend her.

jazzuscounty on December 7, 2013 at 12:45 PM

God bless out troops. They even have to fight for urban elitist’s right to hate them and be more concerned with a communist sympathizer who is probably burning in hell right now. I’m sure he’ll save you a seat, jackass.

RovesChins on December 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

jazzuscounty on December 7, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Sobering. Salute to your dad for serving.

TfromV on December 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM

How will Obama interject himself into today’s remembrance ?

celtic warrior on December 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Not at all.

He has more important items on his place, the marxist traitor.

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Really? Hating on Google and Mandella?

urban elitist on December 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Sure, for good reasons, fool.

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM

My dad was assigned to the Arizona. When she left port, he was in the hospital having his tonsils removed. When I think on this, I have no words.

Visiting the Pearl Harbor Memorial was the greatest part of my vacation in Hawaii.

May God bless America and the military forces who defend her.

jazzuscounty on December 7, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Holy smoke. He literally dodged a bullet.

Big Orange on December 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM

I will always remember.

Jaibones on December 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Really? Hating on Google and Mandella?

Why not, assclown? The Marxist left and their media apologists are fair game, and rightly so. Gutless liberals like yourself lack the moral clarity to speak on the issue. Begone … before someone drops a house on you.

Jaibones on December 7, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Lefties are too busy idolizing their own to take notice.

http://www.cpusa.org/long-live-nelson-mandela/

wolly4321 on December 7, 2013 at 12:02 PM

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canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 1:49 PM

My grandfather was at Kaneohe NAS when the attack occurred.

He survived, went on to fight the war and was stationed in Japan for a few years. Then to Korea. He finally retired from the USN in the early sixties and was soon after diagnosed with lung cancer. He survived that too, somehow.

The last time I saw him was at his home in Kaneohe in 1984 as I was leaving to live in Tokyo. “Tell Kimie I still love her” he said and winked as I backed out of the driveway.

He passed away in 2001 at the age of 84.

DarkCurrent on December 7, 2013 at 1:59 PM

gophergirl on December 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM

During my honeymoon in Hawaii, my wife and I visited the Arizona Memorial and Museum. That day there were 3 Pearl Harbor survivors who were at the complex answering questions and telling their stories of the day. I recall one was a vet of the USS Oaklahoma, another a vet of the USS New Orleans, and the third from Ford Island Naval Air Station. I videotaped their stories about the day.

We’re losing thousands of the members of this generation every day. An 18 year old on 12/7/41 is now 90. Their stories, their history and experiences, need to be remembered.

Many people forget just how bad the news was between December 1941 and the June 1942 in the Pacific and in the Atlantic theaters. Our nation overall was woefully ill-prepared for the conflict and it took time to roll with the losses and build our strength.

There is a lesson from that we need to remember today as we face enemies every bit as dangerous as those of WW2 and an Administration that sees itself with more in common with those enemies than with the people of this country.

Athos on December 7, 2013 at 2:08 PM

The media is still obsessed with celebrity activities and I don’t see much recognition of this very dark anniversary

Well, I’m doing my part to keep it alive. Attended a wreath laying at the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington this morning and attending a dinner this evening where the featured speaker is a Pearl Harbor survivor.

Happy Nomad on December 7, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Makes me hope the United States are still strong enough to survive and recover when severe damage is inflicted on them.

TooTall on December 7, 2013 at 12:15 PM

You mean like a lawless radical President who has caused more harm than any of our former enemies in war.

Happy Nomad on December 7, 2013 at 2:25 PM

I had a chance to meet Doolittle when I was a kid but foolishly declined.

Christien on December 7, 2013 at 2:25 PM

What’s interesting to me is that out of all of the Battleships that were sunk at Pearl Harbor all but three were raised, repaired and returned to action.

Everyone knows about the USS Arizona who is joined by the lesser known USS Utah at Pearl Harbor. The USS Oklahoma was raised but sunk while being towed back to the United States.

Makes me hope the United States are still strong enough to survive and recover when severe damage is inflicted on them.

TooTall on December 7, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Interestingly enough, the Utah was in the process of being deactivated at the time, due to her age and the condition of her powerplant. In fact, she was scheduled to be disposed of in the next couple of months, most likely as a bombing target for the Army Air Force.

Rather ironic, actually.

cheers

eon

eon on December 7, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Christien on December 7, 2013 at 2:25 PM

I read Doolittles raid as a kid. For some reason that book captured my imagination. Enthralled with it. It’s a great book. I must have read it 5 times, straight through.

My Grandfather barely spoke of WWII. But he made sure I had a FULL library of history books.

He’s still kicking. But he misses his wife, my Grandmother, Ann. Wants to join her again.

You want to talk about love? After the War he cherished her. They did everything together.

He saw plenty of death. The few stories I know are horrific. But he came back, drank until he collapsed. First year.. started over. Never drank again.
They shipped him home in a cage. He was one of 4 that survived. There were more, but they commited suicide. The japs were canabalizing our dead.

Big Red One. 127th F. New Guinea, South to North, ocer the mountains and down the coast through the swamps.

I can’t imagine….

wolly4321 on December 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM

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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/pearl-harbor-ceremony-marks-bombing-anniversary

canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 3:04 PM

China today is showing all the signs and symptoms that Japan once showed before the Japanese went off the deep end starting in 1930s.

Not saying China will end up like that, just saying watch out…they are getting really full of themselves and the PLA is taking over more and more power in the country.

William Eaton on December 7, 2013 at 3:24 PM

My grandfather was at Kaneohe NAS when the attack occurred.

He survived, went on to fight the war and was stationed in Japan for a few years. Then to Korea. He finally retired from the USN in the early sixties and was soon after diagnosed with lung cancer. He survived that too, somehow.

The last time I saw him was at his home in Kaneohe in 1984 as I was leaving to live in Tokyo. “Tell Kimie I still love her” he said and winked as I backed out of the driveway.

He passed away in 2001 at the age of 84.

DarkCurrent on December 7, 2013 at 1:59 PM

He picked a beautiful place to retire.

My Dad was stationed in Honolulu in the early 1960s and our family lived in Kailua. Since it was so close my parents did all of their shopping at the Kaneohe PX and Comissary. Even in 1963, we could still see the bullet holes in the buildings from the Japanese planes.

Del Dolemonte on December 7, 2013 at 3:33 PM

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https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/409442159775854592/photo/1/large

canopfor on December 7, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Having spent some time in Pearl Harbor, the Arizona is quite a site. I’d love to go back and see it now that they have the USS Missouri there also. It’s hard to fathom how a ship like that could go down so quickly, but it did and the fact that we set up that memorial is a testament to how much we used to value history and remembering those who died.

bflat879 on December 7, 2013 at 5:57 PM

“Evil”

Yeah, on both sides of the Pacific. At the very least the civilian “authorities” dropped the ball on that one, at worst they knew all about it ahead of time. An admiral and a general were hung out to dry, and the civilian leadership got re-elected…twice.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 7, 2013 at 8:09 PM