WaPo: Obama polling is worse than its topline looks

posted at 11:21 am on December 5, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Over the last couple of weeks, we’ve looked at the various polls on Barack Obama’s performance and noted the dramatic decline in approval on both policy areas and personal qualities. Today, the Washington Post’s Aaron Blake and Sean Sullivan take a look at the former, and inform readers that Obama is in much bigger trouble than just dropping below 40% overall approval:

Recent polling from the Pew Research Center and Quinnipiac University has shown Obama’s approval rating on almost all major issues plunging into the 30s — below even his lowest-ever overall approval rating, which has stood around 40 percent in recent polls.

One might expect Obama’s issue approval rating to be lagging on the economy, for example. And it is.

But even with an issue on which which the president appears to fall in line with a majority of Americans, he’s struggling.

The Pew poll showed Obama’s approval rating on immigration, for instance, was at 32 percent, with 60 percent disapproving, and Quinnipiac showed just 35 percent approving of Obama on that issue.

The two wonder why Obama’s job approval rating remains a little above his ratings on these critical issues.  One of their theories is that his likeability may still be softening the blow, or that the collapse of his leadership approval numbers means that people believe he simply can’t deliver. I’d lean a little more toward the former, although we haven’t seen a poll on likeability in a while.

They miss, however, the big issue of his personal honesty and integrity.  For the first time in his presidency, Obama finds poll numbers plunging on that key attribute, as I noted in my column at The Week yesterday:

His average approval rating on Real Clear Politics has dropped below 40 percent for the first time in his presidency. But worse yet are the ratings on personal qualities like honesty, integrity, and leadership. CNN’s latest poll, taken just before Thanksgiving, shows 53 percent believing that Obama isn’t honest or trustworthy. A CBS News poll put trust in Obama’s word at 49 percent, eleven points lower than a year earlier, while a Washington Post/ABC News survey gave him a 47/50 result on whether he was “honest and trustworthy” — and 33/63 when those attributes were applied to the ObamaCare implementation.

That’s why Obama is in big trouble, and why a fancy speech and a couple of pivots won’t work this time.  That may be especially true among millennials, as I write in today’s column at The Fiscal Times. Those are the voters where disillusionment will hit the hardest on bald-faced lies like “If you like your plan, you can keep it,” and where the damage will hurt Obama and Democrats the most:

Obama wants to counter this with a sales pitch to younger voters, combined with a pivot of sorts to the economy – namely, a demand for a minimum-wage hike. Obama’s problem in this effort is his track record on sales pitches, as well as the demonstrable incompetence of his administration to manage his projects. Young voters bought all of those Obama lines about keeping your plan if you like it, and lower premiums for all. They are not likely to fall under that swoon again when the bills are now coming due each month for the betrayal Obama provided in place of his promised Utopia.

And it’s not just the President who needs to worry about this. In a demographic that usually skews sharply Democratic, the partisan affiliation gap has closed nine points, 33/24. Among those 25 years of age and younger, it’s down to six points in the Harvard poll. Across the whole survey, more align themselves with conservatives than liberals (37/33, 26/22 without leaners). Only half of the survey say they will definitely or probably vote in the 2014 midterms.

Losing their traditional demographic edge would be a disaster for Democrats, not just in votes but also in enthusiasm and activism. That’s what happens when the bill comes due on Obamacare, as younger Americans are increasingly discovering for themselves.

Alex Roarty at National Journal says Obama’s losing another key demographic, too, and Democrats should be very worried:

It’s not the voters who hate Obamacare the most who are going to matter in next year’s elections. It’s the independents who frequently side with Democrats but could, if propelled by a distaste for the health care law, take a serious look at the GOP in 2014. And on this front, Democrats have a big problem with one of their most crucial constituencies—white women.

Polling provided to National Journal by the Kaiser Family Foundation shows that white women have soured considerably on the law, especially in the month since its botched rollout. The skepticism runs especially deep among blue-collar women, sometimes known as “waitress moms,” whose deeply pessimistic attitudes toward the Affordable Care Act should riddle Democratic candidates with anxiety.

Certainly, the law’s unpopularity gives Republicans a tool to counter the Democratic claim of a GOP “war on women”—something Republicans failed miserably at in 2012. But more significantly, it demonstrates that Democrats will have to fight just to retain core elements of their constituency. With 2014’s most important campaigns already lying in hostile territory like Alaska, Arkansas, and South Dakota, it’s a battle many of these candidates can ill afford.

Be sure to read it all, and then ask how Obama can possibly sell them on a program they hate by making more promises of success while having all of his other promises on this exposed as flat-out lies. As Blake and Sullivan say, Obama is in bigger trouble than just his overall approval ratings.


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Hitting low information voters in their wallets gets their attention.

Mr. Joe on December 5, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I predict poll numbers for the SCOAMF to hover between 28-33% by February, when many deaths will have occurred due to Obamascare. People just don’t like politicians who cause their loved ones to die.

NOMOBO on December 5, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Be sure to read it all, and then ask how Obama can possibly sell them on a program they hate by making more promises of success while having all of his other promises on this exposed as flat-out lies.

One wonders if his bag of tricks includes anything more than shucking and jiving. It’s worked for him up until now for a variety of reasons but I suspect the chickens have finally come home to roost.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

One of their theories is that his likeability may still be softening the blow, or that the collapse of his leadership approval numbers means that people believe he simply can’t deliver. I’d lean a little more toward the former, although we haven’t seen a poll on likeability in a while.

I’ve never found him likeable. That’s just what the media says. And media propaganda works. When Obi Wan Kenobi says “this is not the man you want to blame” most people don’t think too hard about it, go on with their daily lives, and have that assumption in the back of their minds.

Fenris on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

That reminds me, what time will The Liar be speaking today, and which flunkies will be his background props?

fogw on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

The numbers on Obamacare enrollment are horrible even in the “good” states. Washington State has about 200,000+ enrollment, but 80% are Medicare. Of the 20% on private insurance, many are preexisting conditions and finding expensive coverage and limited hospital access. This is not going to go well at all.

The plan was always to implode the private health system, but for Obama the bomb is going off too early (he should have conferred more with Bill Ayers on that problem).

Mr. Joe on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Good piece Ed

When CNN and Fox stop showing his speeches you know he’s failing

Too early for popcorn?

cmsinaz on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Like I’ve asked, what does he care? He’ll never dip below a certain point, and he’s got executive power for three more years. He’ll just redouble efforts to destroy and demoralize the structures and individuals which represent his opposition and infect as manya s he can with dependency on or fear of the government. And he obviously knows by now the republican party isn’t capable of lifting a finger. I think he’s sitting very pretty.

rrpjr on December 5, 2013 at 11:30 AM

The first rule in healthcare: Do no harm.

Obama violated that. So did the Democrats.

Mr. Joe on December 5, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Two points before we get carried away. 1)
Barky is not up for reelection so polls are less important to im.
2) His current fall is most likely due to disapproval from the Left for the NSA stuff and both the failure of the Obamacare rollout and their realization that the whole boondoggle is a gift to crony insurers. He can salve the Left by spouting some new OWS type policy. Then he’ll be back at his baseline 45-47% and rule from there.

xkaydet65 on December 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Humpty Dumpty

bazil9 on December 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Barack Obama is being clearly exposed, in reality, not in partisan political discussions, of being feckless and without any real credibility in the wake of a major foreign and domestic policy gaffes. Obamacare’s debacle was, very likely, the straw that broke the camel’s back when it came to his credibility with the millennials and soft Democrats.

Trust lost is extremely difficult to regain – and the pathetically lame pivots to appease his hard left base will do nothing to regain lost trust and credibility. On the inverse, the GOP, which was targeted as only being motivated by partisan politics, is now being seen as the one’s inside the Beltway who were correct in their warnings and opposition to the destructive policies of Barack Obama.

Democrats are left now with a very stark choice…either to continue to hitch their wagon to a discredited lame duck President who is running away from leadership or to bail on that President in the hope that they can salvage the Big Government agenda by placing the blame on the failed implementation and incompetence of the Obama Administration.

The irony over the stark change in fortune, just 5+ years from ‘Hope and Change’ plus decades of Democrat control in DC, is…delicious.

Athos on December 5, 2013 at 11:33 AM

That reminds me, what time will The Liar be speaking today, and which flunkies will be his background props?

fogw on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

The White House is having a Hanakkuh event today. That’s right, they finally got around to acknowledging the Jewish holiday on day nine of an eight-day holiday. And that with a 27′ Menorah literally parked in his back yard.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 11:33 AM

http://blackmailersdontshoot.com/2013/12/04/the-tarantino-presidency/ There is nothing there and people now know it. It will only get worse.

Mr. Joe on December 5, 2013 at 11:34 AM

his “likeability” is artificially high as people are tired of being called racist. so the answers are “sure, i like him, just not his policies”.

and he will always poll higher than he should as 85% of the black vote will never abandon him. it is a matter of “like me vs unlike me”.

jlw on December 5, 2013 at 11:35 AM

I just love it when a petty tyrant gets his comeuppance.

UltimateBob on December 5, 2013 at 11:35 AM

RCP has a bunch of vids with him, from yesterday’s socialist/commie speech.

He looks sick, sick, sick.

Mark this down – the media will report it last. The guy is physically/mentally ill.

It’s the biggest cover up.

Media, you incredible fools, most all of you, die in his azz. It ain’t Beluga caviar, morons.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM

The plan was always to implode the private health system, but for Obama the bomb is going off too early (he should have conferred more with Bill Ayers on that problem).

Mr. Joe on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Yeah, somebody cut the fuse way too short.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM

It is true Obama is not up for reelection, but his legacy matters and it is shredding into tatters.

Mr. Joe on December 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM

And on this front, Democrats have a big problem with one of their most crucial constituencies—white women.

Polling provided to National Journal by the Kaiser Family Foundation shows that white women have soured considerably on the law, especially in the month since its botched rollout. The skepticism runs especially deep among blue-collar women, sometimes known as “waitress moms,” whose deeply pessimistic attitudes toward the Affordable Care Act should riddle Democratic candidates with anxiety.

Because in most families women take it on themselves to see to their families healthcare. This will only get worse Dems!

kcewa on December 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM

I give zer0 a zero rating on everything.

MisterElephant on December 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM

I said it often – the charlatanic thug must and will be punished.

Such don’t survive Russia and Venezuela…and he’s expected to survive the USA.

Were things not so dire, all hand-made by him, it w/b fun to observe.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 11:39 AM

(he should have conferred more with Bill Ayers on that problem).

Mr. Joe on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Bill would be the one to know what could go wrong with bombs. Probably not one to take advice from on the technical details though.

kcewa on December 5, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Let’s stop talking about Obama already now, he is already irrelevant lame duck. Time to move on.

mustng66 on December 5, 2013 at 11:39 AM

But even with an issue on which which the president appears to fall in line with a majority of Americans, he’s struggling.

The Pew poll showed Obama’s approval rating on immigration, for instance, was at 32 percent, with 60 percent disapproving, and Quinnipiac showed just 35 percent approving of Obama on that issue.

Please explain how a majority of Americans are “in line” with the President when you have “60 percent disapproving”.

It defies the notion of a normal (or Gaussian) distribution.

J_Crater on December 5, 2013 at 11:40 AM

The result of sex among Lenin&Mussolini is finally in full sunshine.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 11:40 AM

RCP has a bunch of vids with him, from yesterday’s socialist/commie speech.

He looks sick, sick, sick.

Mark this down – the media will report it last. The guy is physically/mentally ill.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM

I remember seeing him and Moo on Election night 2012 after they won…. They actually did NOT look happy! I remember it distinctly, it was raining, and they were walking under an umbrella to their waiting limo. I was pretty surprised, it was not the usual smiling, confident 0bama. He looked worried about having to play president for another 4 years. This guy really hates work, he has never worked a day in his life.

As you stated recently, they did not expect 0bamacare to pass and then be upheld by the SCOTUS either. Now they are witnessing the devastation that it’s causing, and they are frantic. I also think they didn’t expect to win the election at all. Ans I really wish they hadn’t.

UltimateBob on December 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM

obamas war on America…

crosshugger on December 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM

May he choke on his lies.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 11:42 AM

When CNN and Fox stop showing his speeches you know he’s failing

cmsinaz on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

My guess for less coverage of his speeches on the cable networks has to do with the fact that he gives the same speech over and over again. It has become stale because you can only say that you’re “willing to adopt any good ideas from anywhere” without doing so a certain number of times before it becomes just one more lie.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Fenris on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

I agree. I see a man that only pretends to care about anybody (crudely stated he wouldn’t P**s on you if you were on fire). When are people going to realize that?

teejk on December 5, 2013 at 11:46 AM

One of their theories is that his likeability may still be softening the blow, or that the collapse of his leadership approval numbers means that people believe he simply can’t deliver.

Regarding Obama’s likeability among young people, I wonder whether among young whites his strength lies in that they have yet to experience suffering and carrying an affirmative-action hire where they work.

BuckeyeSam on December 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Stay calm Democrats, Boehner is on his way with a Hail-Mary rescue plan for your party!

Ukiah on December 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM

They miss, however, the big issue of his personal honesty and integrity. For the first time in his presidency, Obama finds poll numbers plunging on that key attribute

The big fat lie from the media and the Goebbellian fascists…there was NO reason to ever believe him and he was never a leader. He is a formed image, a marketing ploy and deceit, a charlatanic narcissistic thug, now exposed.

There are more branches to this, but this is what did him inL

1. Snowden, foreign and domestic

2. Syria, utter foreign disaster

3. obama’care’, national travesty all made by him and his capos.

Nothing will change these, never. They will only get worse. Not even 2% of all is known, except for Syria.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM

May Boehner and Cantor burn slowly/painfully.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM

I’m wondering how many of these “lost faith in Obama” people are disillusioned because Obama hasn’t handed-out enough to them.

As to the others, welcome to sanity.

Lourdes on December 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM

The guy is the Front cover on the book “Evils of Democratic Government” and he’d be mentioned in almost every chapter. He should be impeached, convicted and made to use a pump car to ride the rail out of Washington.

Dusty on December 5, 2013 at 11:50 AM

It defies the notion of a normal (or Gaussian) distribution.

J_Crater on December 5, 2013 at 11:40 AM

..the American public has been de-gaussed? Dunno, just spitballin’ here.

The War Planner on December 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Just look at the ads on TV:

- Bla, bla, bla, bill Medicare.

- Bla, bla, bla, bill pills to Medicare.

- If pills harmed you, sue…millions for your family, never mind that 99% goes to the shysters, fools.

- Redistribution activities, in plain site.

- The Rs eat children and the elderly (the Rs take it laying down)

- obama, Pelosi and Reid are openly obfuscating on TV and media report it as facts.

Welcome to the US of Zimbabwe

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Because in most families women take it on themselves to see to their families healthcare. This will only get worse Dems!

kcewa on December 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM

I think this problem will be only magnified if these same women are managing the health care matters of elderly parents and relatives as well.

BuckeyeSam on December 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Oh, I forgot all the peddling for ‘charities’, incl. “food for the hungry in Israel”. If I see that one more time I’m smashing the TV…not really, but how ridiculous is that?

Don’t send anything to anyone. The gov’t robs you blindly already. Let them feed all. They vote for the Ds anyway. You just work harder, idiots.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 11:53 AM

I think the Millenials are hacked, at least the 18-26 yr old range, cause pappy has informed them his policy has been canceled, and with it, goes their coverage….

hillsoftx on December 5, 2013 at 11:54 AM

I predict poll numbers for the SCOAMF to hover between 28-33% by February, when many deaths will have occurred due to Obamascare. People just don’t like politicians who cause their loved ones to die.

NOMOBO on December 5, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Yeah, but the Dems can just spin that away by saying those people had junk lives and are now better off.

/

Doughboy on December 5, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Bread and circuses…

Wyznowski on December 5, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Of course young people should be skeptical of the President and of the U.S. political system. What’s also missing from this poll is that young people are profoundly skeptical of capitalism and the free market. Their critical of American imperialism and their critical of the efficacy of the criminal justice system. Millenials aren’t ready for a new Reagan revolution, they are ready for Elizabeth Warren. Be happy about this all you want, but the failure of the financial market and the bailout of the banks has driven a whole generation to the left.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Per the minimum wage…
If employers will not hire you today at $7.25, what makes you think that they will suddenly want to hire you at $9.00 after having to increase the wages of others to $9.00 that are already working?

astonerii on December 5, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Good piece Ed
When CNN and Fox stop showing his speeches you know he’s failing
Too early for popcorn?
cmsinaz on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Even CSPAN cut away from his speech. *snickers*

jawkneemusic on December 5, 2013 at 12:00 PM

I predict poll numbers for the SCOAMF to hover between 28-33% by February, when many deaths will have occurred due to Obamascare. People just don’t like politicians who cause their loved ones to die.

NOMOBO on December 5, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Yeah, but the Dems can just spin that away by saying those people had junk lives and are now better off.

/

Doughboy on December 5, 2013 at 11:54 AM

The correct term is “sub-standard”.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 12:00 PM

white women have soured considerably on the law,

All women love to shop.Now that the cost of Ocare is out they see it cutting into their favorite past time.It will be hell to pay for that.His entire crew doesn’t know anything about real life,only politics.

docflash on December 5, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Hitting low information voters in their wallets gets their attention.

Correction. Hitting voters in their wallets gets their attention. That is what’s been missing from his whole agenda. He crammed 7 years of health care promises into 10 years of revenue projections without ever having to even discuss the financial aspects. That was the point of no budgets for the last five years. As far as the American way of life is concerned these young voters have been set back years in their journey. It sucks to be them in this regard and that isn’t good for anybody.

DanMan on December 5, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Good point HN :)

cmsinaz on December 5, 2013 at 12:02 PM

UltimateBob on December 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Very thoughtful and so right you are.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Of course young people should be skeptical of the President and of the U.S. political system. What’s also missing from this poll is that young people are profoundly skeptical of capitalism and the free market. Their critical of American imperialism and their critical of the efficacy of the criminal justice system. Millenials aren’t ready for a new Reagan revolution, they are ready for Elizabeth Warren. Be happy about this all you want, but the failure of the financial market and the bailout of the banks has driven a whole generation to the left.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

You don’t graduate from an Ivy League school making that sort of error.

Busted.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 12:03 PM

As far as the American way of life is concerned these young voters have been set back years in their journey. It sucks to be them in this regard and that isn’t good for anybody.

DanMan on December 5, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Lecturing young people that they have to pay a lot more for their health insurance to finance healthcare for older people isn’t exactly a compelling argument either.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 12:05 PM

You don’t graduate from an Ivy League school making that sort of error.

Busted.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 12:03 PM

So explain Obama.

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 12:06 PM

If you can, cut all ties with anyone still supporting that loser. If they refuse to see the light, make them feel the heat. Persona non grata until they “come correct.”

Christien on December 5, 2013 at 12:06 PM

You don’t graduate from an Ivy League school making that sort of error.

Busted.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Affirmative action Bob. See Obama for prime example.

DanMan on December 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM

No, really — Harry Reid still says if you like your plan you can keep it – See more at: http://www.conservativeintel.com/2013/12/05/no-really-harry-reid-still-says-if-you-like-your-plan-you-can-keep-it/#sthash.Ea02gjvc.dpuf

Look at Harry Reid on this interview clip. If Harry is smiling and acting humble you know that panic has set in deep.

kcewa on December 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM

When CNN and Fox stop showing his speeches you know he’s failing

cmsinaz on December 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

My guess for less coverage of his speeches on the cable networks…

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 11:42 AM

The point has been made about Obama BY Obama that he’s a Big Talker. He Talks. And Talks. And Talks.

His entire point is to Talk. And Talk.

His actions, however, when they do emerge, are illiterate as to sense, function, ethics, usability…

So more and more people change the channel if they don’t turn the set off when Obama once again is shown Talking.

And now Obama wants to be a Sports Caster or something. Riiight, Talky Talk job.

The sheer sound of his voice is enough to make me leave any room in which it’s occuring. The networks have finally gotten the message that the man is Irritating and his Big Talk is empty. And irritating.

Lourdes on December 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Yep, but they have to come that conclusion themselves like we did 35 years ago with Carter. It appears to be happening doesn’t it?

DanMan on December 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Obamagoebbels will blame the Rs for ‘preventing the young to sign up to my wonderful obamacare’.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM

MSM Headlines: Huge Wave of Racism Sweeps across the Nation.

portlandon on December 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Politico’s trying to deflect, (all morning) from Obama’s numbers and O’care by posting moronic issues like “tax reform”, “Republican’s war on women”, and now a phony attack on gay candidates. The site banished my comment on their war on women thread when I posted this:

Liberal Democratic Pundits: Hey, let’s poop into conservative women’s mouths and then lecture Republican men on how to treat the opposite sex.

Rovin on December 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Heh jawknee :)

cmsinaz on December 5, 2013 at 12:11 PM

So explain Obama.

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Lazy sheepleton

Thuggish looters

Dummy Rs, with silky gloves

PC

Racism – it is racist to expect less of the first half-black president. MLK died for nothing.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:11 PM

OT – ars handed to Biden.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Noticed that too Rovin…. anything about the gop is at the top if their page

cmsinaz on December 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Millenials aren’t ready for a new Reagan revolution, they are ready for Elizabeth Warren. Be happy about this all you want, but the failure of the financial market and the bailout of the banks has driven a whole generation to the left.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

MOST people get out of academic environments eventually. Even if they are required to “keep current” on licensing, they eventually depart from the bubble of academia and enter and then remain in The Real World that must contend with application of ideas, practicalities necessary to function outside any Bubble of theory-only.

Those who can’t manage that stay in the bubble of academia. They lecture everyone else. But they lecture theories that often fail in any environment outside the Bubble of Academia. That’s what’s produced the current manic phase favoring “Sociology”.

Lourdes on December 5, 2013 at 12:15 PM

The sheer sound of his voice is enough to make me leave any room in which it’s occuring.

Lourdes on December 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM

You and me both. I can’t stand his voice. It’s actually painful.

portlandon on December 5, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Politico’s trying to deflect, (all morning) from Obama’s numbers and O’care by posting moronic issues like “tax reform”, “Republican’s war on women”, and now a phony attack on gay candidates. The site banished my comment on their war on women thread when I posted this:

Liberal Democratic Pundits: Hey, let’s poop into conservative women’s mouths and then lecture Republican men on how to treat the opposite sex.

Rovin on December 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Politico, bahh.

It’s a wasteland of Leftwingers trapped in the Cult of Obama, the DNC, whatever Left there is.

Commenting there is nearly a lost cause if you’re any grade of perspective other than Chris Matthews or Rosie O’Donnell.

Be honored when they ban your comments, they’ve banned both comments and commenting accounts of some fine people over the years and Politico is largely responsible for the Obama-Cult-Build along with NBC and Hollywood.

Lourdes on December 5, 2013 at 12:18 PM

My son is now in college and he said Obama’s toast on the street.. Totally lost all credibility and the website debacle sealed the deal. He is toast.

/Maybe he’ll surprise us all for Christmas and step the hell down.

Key West Reader on December 5, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Pick the most annoying:

a. Obama
b. Pelosi
d. Wasserman-Shultz

….the correct answer, of course, is ‘d’ for all of the above.

Deafdog on December 5, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Such don’t survive Russia and Venezuela…and he’s expected to survive the USA.

Were things not so dire, all hand-made by him, it w/b fun to observe.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Don’t forget Romania circa Dec 1989.

freedomfirst on December 5, 2013 at 12:24 PM

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 11:56 AM

The alternatives to capitalism are proving to work so well aren’t they? Those countries that cling to socialism seem to need annual bailouts from those countries that are increasingly rejecting the concepts. We should learn from their experience but we don’t. We’ll sooner or later get to the dance only to find that the band packed up and left a long time ago.

teejk on December 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM

libfreeordie on December 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Wow. You are just like Nanzi Pelosi! She says the same thing, too! And DWS!!

Truth is that these millenials are recoiling in HORROR at what they elected.

Key West Reader on December 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM

And now Obama wants to be a Sports Caster or something. Riiight, Talky Talk job.

The sheer sound of his voice is enough to make me leave any room in which it’s occuring. The networks have finally gotten the message that the man is Irritating and his Big Talk is empty. And irritating.

Lourdes on December 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I know I can’t watch his speeches without wanting to put something through the television. And the fact that he does so many “events” tells me that he thinks that speaking with a bunch of props standing behind him is effective communication. At least none of the props are swooning in his presence now.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM

What does his poll numbers matter? Only if they effect Democrats in 2014. Obama isn’t running again. Only elections matter.

alanstern on December 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM

I remember seeing him and Moo on Election night 2012 after they won…. They actually did NOT look happy! I remember it distinctly, it was raining, and they were walking under an umbrella to their waiting limo. I was pretty surprised, it was not the usual smiling, confident 0bama. He looked worried about having to play president for another 4 years. This guy really hates work, he has never worked a day in his life.

As you stated recently, they did not expect 0bamacare to pass and then be upheld by the SCOTUS either. Now they are witnessing the devastation that it’s causing, and they are frantic. I also think they didn’t expect to win the election at all. Ans I really wish they hadn’t.

UltimateBob on December 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM

That scene is burned into my brain as well. They looked shell-shocked. When he realized that a camera was on him he suddenly puffed out his puny chest and came up with his best $$$$-eating grin.

Until the last couple of days of the election, they thought that they would lose.

slickwillie2001 on December 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM

What’s also missing from this poll is that young people are profoundly skeptical of capitalism and the free market.

I have my doubts. I think terms like “fascism, communism, capitalism, free market, etc.” that have much meaning and resonance for most of us on this board speak less to young people who, if they feel any connection to the Spanish Civil War at all, may vaguely recall Mom and Dad playing Spanish Bombs.

I hate the politics of marketing instead of the marketing of ideas, but the GOP needs to think more like brand managers and look to product lines that embrace different values (privacy? economic sustainability?) that capture younger people for the longer term.

bobs1196 on December 5, 2013 at 12:26 PM

You don’t graduate from an Ivy League school making that sort of error.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Nowadays, yes you do. That’s the problem.

rrpjr on December 5, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Millenials aren’t ready for a new Reagan revolution, they are ready for Elizabeth Warren. Be happy about this all you want, but the failure of the financial market and the bailout of the banks has driven a whole generation to the left.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Substituting your own biases and agenda for analysis doesn’t constitute critical thinking or cogent analysis.

I think you underestimate the effects of the massive credibility failure of the hard left agenda that won their support in 2008. They are seeing that theory and wishful thinking doesn’t invalidate the laws of economics or human nature. They are seeing that once again, as it has in every single application attempted since 1789, this ‘fundamental change’ agenda not only fails, but fails utterly.

Reality is the best exposure for the intellectual, ethical, and moral bankruptcy of the agenda of the hard left – and only those most vapid useful idiots remain enamored of that vision.

Athos on December 5, 2013 at 12:27 PM

I think Obama has gone into the death spiral. Will anyone listen to him anymore?

COgirl on December 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM

they have to come that conclusion themselves like we did 35 years ago with Carter. It appears to be happening doesn’t it?

DanMan on December 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM

I honestly think Obama would be relatively well off with young people if it were just Obamacare lies. But combined with the NSA scandal……. they’re paying attention.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM

You don’t graduate from an Ivy League school making that sort of error.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Nowadays, yes you do. That’s the problem.

rrpjr on December 5, 2013 at 12:27 PM

The list of Harvard alumni that are uneducated idiots is long. But how Obama got through Columbia and Harvard Law without learning things that are basics for any education…. All I can say is that the thin-skinned one should be the poster boy for all that is wrong with affirmative action trumping academic ability and merit.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 12:32 PM

You and me both. I can’t stand his voice. It’s actually painful.

portlandon on December 5, 2013 at 12:15 PM

I have this new twist to that affliction: whenever he is on my TV, my middle finger pops up… even when said TV is muted.

SteveInRTP on December 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Nowadays, yes you do. That’s the problem.

rrpjr on December 5, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Yep. That Harvard video asking “What is the capital of Canada?” says it all.

Christien on December 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM

flat-out lies

Around the time of Iran-Contra, Sec of State George Shultz recounted what he learned years ago, that in Washington, “trust is the coin of the realm”. In that way, Obama, like our great country, is flat broke. Obama has, by his own words, trained people to not believe what he says.

“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice … I won’t be fooled again”. — GW Bush. Close enough.

Paul-Cincy on December 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Be sure to read it all, and then ask how Obama can possibly sell them on a program they hate by making more promises of success while having all of his other promises on this exposed as flat-out lies.

If the general public finally forces itself to see this pernicious, amoral administration for being just that then Obama will be on the way to being made utterly impotent for the remainder for his term. He would be made to regret having won a second term. However, having read Hannah Arendt’s book on “Totalitarianism” and Miloslav Djilas’ book “The New Class” about the psychology of propaganda under Hilter, Stalin and Tito one also realizes that it remains regretably possible that the public could continue to succumb to Obama’s lies. As an aside, a president who at this early point in his second term looks ahead to “retiring” as a sports analyst should be the clearest signal of how serious a person this man-child really is.

DaveDief on December 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM

This Idiot has been able to get to the young people in the last two elections. That’s history now because he is getting into their wallets now, and that’s where it hurts the most. Democrats are history in the next election. Dems will lose the Senate, then he will be impeached.

tmgrant on December 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM

I have this new twist to that affliction: whenever he is on my TV, my middle finger pops up… even when said TV is muted.

SteveInRTP on December 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Ha ha. Nice imagery.
My family seems to think that’s my salute to the light-bringer!

freedomfirst on December 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM

I think Obama has gone into the death spiral. Will anyone listen to him anymore?

COgirl on December 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM

oh sure….LibFree, Lostmymother…Verbal….Partisan…

ToddPA on December 5, 2013 at 12:43 PM

tmgrant on December 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Yep. It’s going to get worse for the POSPOTUS. Those recent grads that voted for him first in ’08 and again in ’12 are now likely married or not, with 2 kids, a mortgage (if they are even employed) and now they’re getting smacked with O’care sticker shock.

SteveInRTP on December 5, 2013 at 12:44 PM

It’s the X-mas season and a thug is chief…on display, several times a day.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:46 PM

But how Obama got through Columbia and Harvard Law without learning things that are basics for any education…. All I can say is that the thin-skinned one should be the poster boy for all that is wrong with affirmative action trumping academic ability and merit.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Google “Harvard Adam Wheeler” sometime.

A few years ago Wheeler not only cheated his way into Harvard, he managed to cheat his way through almost 4 full years, and would have graduated if one of his sharp-eyed professors hadn’t caught him for Joe Biden Disease (plagiarism).

Del Dolemonte on December 5, 2013 at 12:50 PM

The shame is on the land for ever giving this thug any credibility.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:53 PM

One of their theories is that his likeability may still be softening the blow…

That’s quite a theory, because he is one of the least likable public figures out there. He is a haughty, mean-spirited, vengeful, petulant little man. And to top it off, he whines like a three-year-old whenever things don’t go his way. Ugh.

KS Rex on December 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM

I love the caption photo. The empty space above zer0′s head corresponds nicely to the empty space inside it.

MisterElephant on December 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM

About the only people better off under Obama are the Washington political establishment, lobbyists, government contractors and investment bankers/stockbrokers. The entire middle class is being destroyed.

tommyboy on December 5, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Google “Harvard Adam Wheeler” sometime.

A few years ago Wheeler not only cheated his way into Harvard, he managed to cheat his way through almost 4 full years, and would have graduated if one of his sharp-eyed professors hadn’t caught him for Joe Biden Disease (plagiarism).

Del Dolemonte on December 5, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Apparently their due dilligence is as crappy for applicants and students as it is for faculty claiming to be Native Americans.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 1:00 PM

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