Reid: No one kept their insurance because plans only last a year, or something

posted at 12:11 pm on December 5, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

This spin is so bad, even Harry Reid starts choking on it at the end.  It’s a keeper for marking the boundaries of chutzpah to which Democrats will go in defending Barack Obama’s “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan” promise repeatedly offered even while his administration knew it would result in millions of cancellations in the individual market, and as many as 93 million next year when the employer mandates kick into effect.  Reid tells a Nevada news anchor that Obama didn’t lie … it’s just that insurance plans never last more than a year anyway.

No, seriously:

Note the anchor’s less-than-thrilled “Okay” when Reid offers that explanation. He follows up with Reid by asking him whether it was unhelpful to have the President lie repeatedly about those changes, and Reid insists that Obama told the truth … kinda-sorta. At the end of the clip, Reid starts blaming “administrative changes” forced by the law that made insurers change their plans, without mentioning that (a) the law was on the books while Reid and Obama continued to make that promise for another three years, and (b) it’s Obama’s law and Reid quarterbacked it.

Of course, Reid might still be able to say that Obama kept the promise … for Reid’s staffers, anyway.


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Choke on lies already, mortician.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Goebbels orgasmed all over DC.

He’s having more fun dead than alive.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Paying taxes is voluntary, too.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Hey Harry remember that old adage “be careful what you wish for…..”

sandee on December 5, 2013 at 12:14 PM

The bloody lot of them need to be publicly whipped then tarred and feathered, put in stocks and have rotten eggs thrown at them…

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Reid: (lies and more lies)

Reporter: “OK”

This fellow has a bright future in journalism.

aquaviva on December 5, 2013 at 12:15 PM

I hope that they ALL come to choke on their words, but him and pelousy and obama the worst… mind you, all dems and some repubs too need to choke on their words…

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Note the anchor’s less-than-thrilled “Okay” when Reid offers that explanation.

Okay is not the appropriate response when the individual you are interviewing tells a flat-out-lie. The claim that insurance policies are ephemeral or something doesn’t even make sense!

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 12:18 PM

I have gone beyond contempt for them all…

Destroyers of the American Way.

All need to feel the wrath of God descending down upon them.

I pray it will be so…

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Heh, I had a policy for over 10 years….
I don’t make over $94,000 per year.
I can get a subsidy.

But this whole process is about as crappy as it gets….

I have had fun calling up HealthCare.gov everyday and pissing off the operators….

These people are buffoons and just “apologize”…..

I told one yesterday to call Pelosi and ask her why my kids cannot be
covered under my great ObamaCare plan????

I thought they could stay on my policy until they are 26????

Hell I can’t even get them on my policy?

redguy on December 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Which is worse? The lame lies and pathetic spin of the pederast or the lack of challenge by the vapid ‘journalist’?

Athos on December 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM

If you like your alibi, you can keep your alibi.

portlandon on December 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM

My insurance agent says he is about ready to retire if this is his future…..

redguy on December 5, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Three people are definitely nuts, 5 actually:

1. obama
2. Reid
3. Pelosi
4. Colmes
5. Juan Williams

#5 “The evil racist rethuglicans are sabotaging the glorious obama and the utopia he would give us if we would just let him.”

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:17 PM

I desire choking till full suffocation.

bazil9 on December 5, 2013 at 12:21 PM

The 2014 elections should be a political Knockout Game, with the exception that none of the “victims” is innocent.

Christien on December 5, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Athos on December 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Reid more wicked than the reporter, the reporter is just a dumb ass too scared to challenge him, hope people who saw this, see right through it.

Effing lying asshat…

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:22 PM

My insurance agent says he is about ready to retire if this is his future…..

redguy on December 5, 2013 at 12:20 PM

I am with him.

bazil9 on December 5, 2013 at 12:22 PM

It’s rhetorical, I know.. but,
Is there anyone more loathsome in the history of the United States Senate the Harry Reid?

Republican Yogi on December 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Too bad that senile SOB can’t choke on his own words.

GarandFan on December 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM

than

Republican Yogi on December 5, 2013 at 12:24 PM

bazil9 on December 5, 2013 at 12:21 PM

That was coming later ;)

Thanks for finishing it off!!

HDQ was an idea that ran thru my brain;

http://tinyurl.com/ypl6wk

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Too bad that NV allowed such a thug to be their senator for 6 more years. What a national shame.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Republican Yogi on December 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Yeah, Pelousy then Oboobma…

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Way to go, Nevada!!

Keep sending this lying thug back to Washington again and again. I guess that keeps him out of Vegas much of the time.

Bitter Clinger on December 5, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Thanks for finishing it off!!

HDQ was an idea that ran thru my brain;

http://tinyurl.com/ypl6wk

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Anytime. :)

I can dig HDQ. They deserve it-in full.

bazil9 on December 5, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Harry and obama, in Jan, and shortly after, there will be videos and interviews of families…with dead people, directly as a result of you and our obama’care’. Mark this down. That will be the next phase.

RCP, you turkeys, make an ad with obama:

“If you like your plan, you can keep it”

“If you like your doctor, you can keep him”

“If you like your provider (hospital for the Yorba Linda crowd), you can keep it”

Then Ronald Reagan “Wellll…there you go again”

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Paying taxes is voluntary, too.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM

same page Bob, that was the first thing that came to me as well. Wasn’t that a 60 Minutes interview where he made that claim that income taxes are voluntary? I don’t think that was even 10 years ago.

DanMan on December 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Sort of off topic – megyn kelly is my favorite interviewer on TV. She doesn’t let folks talk gibberish, which is all reid is doing here.

Deafdog on December 5, 2013 at 12:29 PM

It’s rhetorical, I know.. but,
Is there anyone more loathsome in the history of the United States Senate the Harry Reid?

Republican Yogi on December 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM

I used to think Chuck Shumer had that title in hand…

…but you make a valid point.

ToddPA on December 5, 2013 at 12:29 PM

FTS. The American people should go on strike for an entire week. Of course, the sick fvcks won’t budge, so then up it to two weeks, then four, then eight, then sixteen.

Push the filth’s political capital burn rate past “11″ and make them feel the heat.

Christien on December 5, 2013 at 12:29 PM

bazil9 on December 5, 2013 at 12:27 PM

It was the British way O_0!!!

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:32 PM

A government on lying thugs will not stand…

d1carter on December 5, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Reid tells a Nevada news anchor that Obama didn’t lie … it’s just that insurance plans never last more than a year anyway.

Actually, if that is the logic in this gibberish, then that makes BHO’s lie even bigger! In other words, he didn’t just lie to those 5.5 Million who got cancellation notices, he lied to everyone!

Deafdog on December 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Nevada, seriously, what the f***? I mean really, you couldn’t have found someone with at least the ethics of, say, Bugsy Siegel to send to the Senate?

M240H on December 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Can’t this funeral director keep his day job ?

J_Crater on December 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

d1carter on December 5, 2013 at 12:32 PM

on = of…sheesh.

d1carter on December 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Is there anyone more loathsome in the history of the United States Senate the Harry Reid?

Republican Yogi on December 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM

IMHO, he’s surpassed John C. Calhoun, Joseph Robinson, Lyndon Johnson, and Robert Byrd….

He has no ethics, no morals, and is little more than a corrupt ideologue.

Athos on December 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Christien on December 5, 2013 at 12:29 PM

They should quit paying taxes.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:34 PM

5 1/2 years ago…and there’s Bishop and NotCoach right up top! Anybody ever hear from MadCon anymore? That guy is hilarious.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/26/video-reid-says-taxes-voluntary/comment-page-1/

DanMan on December 5, 2013 at 12:34 PM

All Americans should be as honest on their tax returns as Dear Leader and Dirty Harry….

d1carter on December 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Reid starts blaming “administrative changes”

…made by Nurse Ratched, who’s in their clan…

Die from chicanery, mortician of the land.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Three people are definitely nuts, 5 actually:

1. obama
2. Reid
3. Pelosi
4. Colmes
5. Juan Williams

#5 “The evil racist rethuglicans are sabotaging the glorious obama and the utopia he would give us if we would just let him.”

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:21 PM

You forgot Bob “F-Bomb” Beckel…

Shepherd Lover on December 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM

DanMan on December 5, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Bishop is here and so is NotCoach, but I believe MadCon is gone ):

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:37 PM

All Americans should be as honest on their tax returns as Dear Leader and Dirty Harry….

d1carter on December 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Second that!!

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:37 PM

5 1/2 years ago…and there’s Bishop and NotCoach right up top! Anybody ever hear from MadCon anymore? That guy is hilarious.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/26/video-reid-says-taxes-voluntary/comment-page-1/

DanMan on December 5, 2013 at 12:34 PM

And that’s a pretty smart post by me, too!

Taxes ARE voluntary. You don’t have to work. You don’t have to own property. You don’t have to buy anything. Anyone can volunteer to become homeless. Perhaps Dirty Harry can demonstrate the volunteer nature of taxes by personal example?

NotCoach on July 26, 2008 at 10:51 AM

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Bishop is here and so is NotCoach, but I believe MadCon is gone ):

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:37 PM

I think he slowly gave up on HA after getting booted from the old Green Room.

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Three people are definitely nuts, 5 actually:

1. obama
2. Reid
3. Pelosi
4. Colmes
5. Juan Williams

#5 “The evil racist rethuglicans are sabotaging the glorious obama and the utopia he would give us if we would just let him.”

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:21 PM

You forgot Bob “F-Bomb” Beckel…

Shepherd Lover on December 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM

…And that dude Sally Kohn…

Shepherd Lover on December 5, 2013 at 12:39 PM

You forgot Bob “F-Bomb” Beckel…

Shepherd Lover on December 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM

He’s nuts alright but he’s been very critical of the oaf in chief, and tells about his lies. The other two are strictly Goebellian, admitting nothing and blaming thin air for racism and all else.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:40 PM

blink on December 5, 2013 at 12:37 PM

People here and elsewhere spoke out against this Abomination, was any one listening?

Will Conservative politicians/people ever be credited for trying to blow the whistle?
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crickets…

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:40 PM

…And that dude Sally Kohn…

Shepherd Lover on December 5, 2013 at 12:39 PM

I avoid watching him.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Taxes ARE voluntary. You don’t have to work. You don’t have to own property. You don’t have to buy anything. Anyone can volunteer to become homeless. Perhaps Dirty Harry can demonstrate the volunteer nature of taxes by personal example?

NotCoach on July 26, 2008 at 10:51 AM

Not any more. The SC has ruled that ObamaCare is a tax; everyone is required by law to participate, making taxes involuntary.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 12:39 PM

I think he and Ed tangled over somthing and MadCon was axed ):

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Will Conservative politicians/people ever be credited for trying to blow the whistle?

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:40 PM

No. Dems will. It’s like the kid that steals his friend’s jokes unattributed and gets the kudos and popularity. Then, when you confront him, he gets pissy and says, “What’s your problem? U mad bro?!”

Christien on December 5, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Not any more. The SC has ruled that ObamaCare is a tax; everyone is required by law to participate, making taxes involuntary.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM

The homeless are exempted from the mandate/tax under HHS regulations. :P

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 12:47 PM

This spin is so bad

I’ll say…who exactly ever had an insurance policy that changed that drastically from year to year? I’ve purchased a policy on the individual market for more than half of my adult life and the only changes that I ever noticed was in the price. And not once did an insurance carrier add coverage for a benefit I didn’t ask for.

lynncgb on December 5, 2013 at 12:49 PM

What a moron.

I had Blue Cross back in 1994.
Between 1994 and 2012, I used other insurance.
When I went back to Blue Cross, they gave me the same member ID. When I logged into my account, my ex-spouse still showed up. [Had to answer a few questions for my current spouse.]

Don’t tell me these things only live one year.

freedomfirst on December 5, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Christien on December 5, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Typical bully behaviour.

Since the media is in Oboobmas’ pockets, truth won’t get out, and we all will still be called all the names they can think of…

But somehow, this time, I believe their spin will not work much.

All I want for Christmas is for the Republicans to FGS get some fricking balls and DO SOMTHING!!

Yeah, I know, wishful thinking :)

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:51 PM

OT

Don’t think we’ll see much of LibFree today….

..Lizard breath Warren has declared she will NOT be running
for President in 2016….Damn, and I was hoping for some updated
ChowChow recipes!!

(Or at least a Tomahawk paper weight)

ToddPA on December 5, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Obama’s pets:

There’s his pet boy Sherman (Jay Carney), his pet fruitcake (DWS), his pet psychotic (Pelosi) and his pet rattle snake (Reid).

sadatoni on December 5, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Three people are definitely nuts, 5 actually:

1. obama
2. Reid
3. Pelosi
4. Colmes
5. Juan Williams

#5 “The evil racist rethuglicans are sabotaging the glorious obama and the utopia he would give us if we would just let him.”

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:21 PM

I used to think that Eternal torment in Hell would be cuel of GOD to do to mere humans, but for the first three of your list, I’m kinda hoping that they already have a reservation.

44Magnum on December 5, 2013 at 12:52 PM

sadatoni on December 5, 2013 at 12:52 PM

You pegged them so good!! ^5

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:54 PM

OT II:

SP apparently will be on Bill O this evening to “chat”
about Bat Sh*tter….

Bill O: “I know you don’t like to come on here and face me”

SP: “Shut the F*ck up Bill, and let me talk”

ToddPA on December 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Gotta run for a while, taking care of my neighbours’ Ferret…

Later folks!

Scrumpy on December 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Harry Reed looks like Grandpa in The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and has about as much to say that’s worthy of attention.

MisterElephant on December 5, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Karma is a biatch

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2013 at 12:59 PM

*Reid

MisterElephant on December 5, 2013 at 1:00 PM

“Our parents were going to die eventually anyhow,” -Menendez Bros.

Akzed on December 5, 2013 at 1:01 PM

The homeless are exempted from the mandate/tax under HHS regulations. :P

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 12:47 PM

really….serious question then….

How does the government define “homeless”?

No fixed address?

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 1:03 PM

I’ll say…who exactly ever had an insurance policy that changed that drastically from year to year?

lynncgb on December 5, 2013 at 12:49 PM

A lot of people since October and into 2014.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Brought to you by the idiot who believes that taxes are voluntary…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6q0slMhDw8

ihasurnominashun on December 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Speaking of brainfree, excellent article about his psychology.

http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2013/12/because-lying-and-resenting-is-what-angels-do.html

Got this via Ace post on another racism hoax.

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 1:07 PM

really….serious question then….

How does the government define “homeless”?

No fixed address?

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 1:03 PM

I don’t know. When the IRS gets a “Return to sender” on their tax/penalty notices?

NotCoach on December 5, 2013 at 1:10 PM

A lot of people since October and into 2014.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Yeah, I’m one of them.

And I never had a policy cancelled on me until now.

Dingy Harry’s claim that individual policies only last for a year is just more BS…but his nutty followers are all too willing to believe it, or just peddle the BS too.

lynncgb on December 5, 2013 at 1:15 PM

This cretin is the leader of the Democrats, therefore one can reasonably assume that they are all as demented as he.

rplat on December 5, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Dingy Harry’s claim that individual policies only last for a year is just more BS…but his nutty followers are all too willing to believe it, or just peddle the BS too.

lynncgb on December 5, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Mass cancellations were always part of the plan (anybody who says differently is a liar). But they got too cute by half when they wrote the stuff about grandfathered policies when even a rate change cancelled out grandfather status. All the while Reid, Pelosi, the lazy stupid one, and many others were saying that we could keep our plans.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Now – imagine a single payer system – where you have to call the government to get an appointment with a doctor…..

Most people would blow it off unless they cut off their arms….

Pretty much the whole idea behind government control.

Just fighting the system to get my “private” health insurance has been an exercise in total frustration.

redguy on December 5, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Dear Mr. Ed,

I ask that you re-consider your decision to cancel the Obamaturism Of The Day series. Of late, the inputs available to said series are incredible snark-bait. I also suggest that the overall OOTD winner for the entire 8 year term has been lost, which is the “If you like your X, you can keep your X” theme.

Regards.

BobMbx on December 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Nevada, seriously, what the f***? I mean really, you couldn’t have found someone with at least the ethics of, say, Bugsy Siegel to send to the Senate?

M240H on December 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

The unions and organized crime is who is behind Reid….he is like the old grandpa gangster.

That’s Nevada and DC in a nutshell….

redguy on December 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM

All this proves in one thing: the voters of Nevada are damn damn damn stupid.

And that’s putting it nicely.

somewhatconcerned on December 5, 2013 at 1:26 PM

My insurance agent says he is about ready to retire if this is his future…..

redguy on December 5, 2013 at 12:20 PM

I am with him.

bazil9 on December 5, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I still need to work another 10 years and I doubt
my wife and I will be able to retire even then….

Unless my son becomes the next great rap star!!! LOL

redguy on December 5, 2013 at 1:27 PM

But they got too cute by half when they wrote the stuff about grandfathered policies when even a rate change cancelled out grandfather status.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 1:21 PM

They certainly did.

My son had a so-called “grand-fathered” plan that he hesitated to give up when he was offered employer-sponsored benefits. He wound up letting the policy go (the employer benefits were much better)…but now we know he would have lost the GF status anyway.

lynncgb on December 5, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Ok. Thanks for the warm-up show. You can post the DWS story now.
(Don’t forget the pic.)

Tsar of Earth on December 5, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Nevada. Please. At the next election cycle, deliver us from this pustule.

dissent555 on December 5, 2013 at 2:33 PM

I watched the video.

I’ve been… slimed.

Kraken on December 5, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Has Reid pre-selected a spot in the NV desert for himself?

Another Drew on December 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Is there anyone more loathsome in the history of the United States Senate the Harry Reid?

Republican Yogi on December 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM

.
IMHO, he’s surpassed John C. Calhoun, Joseph Robinson, Lyndon Johnson, and Robert Byrd….

He has no ethics, no morals, and is little more than a corrupt ideologue.

Athos on December 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

.
I would put him on par with Tedward Kennedy.

listens2glenn on December 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM

In other words, we always knew that promise of Obama’s was a lie and we did nothing to correct the lie. That makes it Reid’s lie and Pelosi’s lie too. You can’t trust anything they say. They’re the Axis of Falsehood.

flataffect on December 5, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Reid is technically right, because employer insurance plans are routinely changed each year, but Obama said that plans in effect before the law was passed would be unchanged … we all know that all plans were affected because the law was passed a few years ago.

They think we are stupid.

virgo on December 6, 2013 at 2:30 AM