Poll: Support for ObamaCare down sharply among white women

posted at 6:51 pm on December 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

Temporary blip mirroring the nationwide souring on O and his big “achievement” or a more durable shift that threatens Democrats in 2016? I had it in my head for some reason that ObamaCare has always been relatively popular with women, but check Kaiser’s polling over time and you’ll see that’s not really true. Among women generally (not just white women), support for the law has cracked 50 percent exactly once over the past 44 months. This year alone, support scraped 40 percent only in October, when it got a small bounce after the website launched, but otherwise it’s been below that mark consistently.

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Kaiser didn’t provide a split among women along racial lines but it’s a safe bet that black and Latino women have consistently supported O-Care at higher levels than white women have. Case in point: Last year, according to the national exit poll, Obama won 96 percent of black women, 76 percent of Latino women, and … 42 percent of white women. All of which is to say, the downturn lately is no surprise. But if it’s not surprising, it’s still potentially important: Obama ran seven points ahead with white women last year than he did with white men. Overall, he won women by 10 points while Romney won men by eight. Women, including white women, are making the difference for Democrats in national elections. If the O-Care debacle erodes that advantage, they’re in trouble.

According to Kaiser, 40 percent of college-educated white women hold a “very unfavorable” view of the law—10 points higher than a month ago. An additional 10 percent view the law “somewhat unfavorably.” A month ago, those two groups together totaled just 42 percent…

And that’s not all. Democrats should be far more worried about white women who do not have a higher education. The numbers are astounding: In the latest Kaiser poll, 50 percent have a “very unfavorable” view of the law—9 points higher than in October. An additional 13 percent view it “somewhat unfavorably.” Indeed, antipathy among blue-collar white women runs even deeper than the most conservative white demographic group, blue-collar white men (59 percent of whom hold an unfavorable view, Kaiser found).

Remarkably, only 16 percent of blue-collar white women have a favorable view of Obamacare. They disapprove of it by a 4-1 ratio. (The poll found 21 percent did not know enough about the ACA to hold an opinion.) These voters are by no means a strongly Democratic group: Obama won just 39 percent of them last year. But they do lean further left than their male counterparts, and Democratic candidates in 2014 will need to perform even better with them to win reelection.

This is why I’m unsure whether the downturn is a blip or something more permanent. Blue-collar women are, in theory, one of the winners from the law, not only because they’re in line for subsidies but because maternity and neo-natal care are one of the new mandatory “essential benefits” in ObamaCare plans. Maybe they’re hearing horror stories in the media about rate shock and recoiling, not realizing yet that their own rate shock will be eased by money from Uncle Sam. Or, much scarier for Democrats, maybe they do realize that and are worried that the rates (and out-of-pocket expenses) will be too high even after subsidies. If that’s what ends up happening, good luck in 2014, progressives.

But are they in trouble in 2016? If their O-Care problem with white women persists, two things are going to happen. One: The insufferable “war on women” demagoguery will be pushed even harder in order to claw back as many of those lost women voters as possible. The minimum-wage push lately will also become more urgent as a way of appealing to disaffected blue-collar women. If insurance subsidies aren’t enough to preserve the left’s advantage, identity politics and federally-mandated wage hikes might be. Two: If Hillary looked like a lock for the nomination now, wait until 2015 rolls around with Democrats panicked about white women fleeing the party. Party leaders will see her nomination as the only silver bullet in their arsenal capable of singlehandedly bringing that demographic back into the fold. And by the same token, if women are suddenly in play, the pressure will be intense on the GOP to put a woman on the ticket to exploit the foothold they’ve been given by ObamaCare. Two words, my friends: Christie/Martinez.

Here’s Ed Schultz reassuring America that, no matter what the polls say, God is on ObamaCare’s side.


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Two words, my friends: Christie/Martinez.

Make it Martinez/Christie and you’ve got my attention.

Dump the egomaniac Christie from the ticket altogether and replace him with someone like Mary Fallin, Marsha Blackburn, or Marco Rubio, and we’re in business.

Let’s face it folks, since Hillary is a fait accompli, if we don’t nominate a woman it’s going to be 2008 all over again – just replace “racist” with “sexist” and you’ve got the Democrats’ playbook from 2017 to 2025.

KingGold on December 5, 2013 at 6:56 PM

But, but free birth control!

yubley on December 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM

That’s because they’re all racist.

And Allah P. is going to hell for posting that picture at dinner time.

BigWyo on December 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM

I can barely wait to hear the BS polluting the airwaves through November 2016. Gack!

catsandbooks on December 5, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Christie/Martinez

Wasn’t she on the LPGA tour a few years back?

Bruno Strozek on December 5, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Women, including white women, are making the difference for Democrats in national elections. If the O-Care debacle erodes that advantage, they’re in trouble.

That’s where immigration reform comes in AP. The dem voter base has to be replenished as the party moves further to the left.

Wigglesworth on December 5, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Nothing that cant be fixed by adding 15 million new democrat voters to the rolls

El_Terrible on December 5, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Chris Christie 2016

Democrat Chris Christie is a pro-illegal alien amnesty, anti-gun darling of the establishment and absolutely no conservative.

Any so-called Republican who supports this phony RINO for the nomination is essentially declaring that they hate conservatives and want to see Hillary elected president.

bluegill on December 5, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Women and minorities have done worse than white males under the dictator. Yet they elected him to a second term. Women and minorities are leftist’s. I’ll believe the change when I see it at the ballot box. I live in NJ. CC has done zilch for me.

alanstern on December 5, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Hope those numbers keep heading south.

TimBuk3 on December 5, 2013 at 7:04 PM

pretty sure that’s wacist.

Murphy9 on December 5, 2013 at 7:05 PM

But, but free birth control!

yubley on December 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM

I believe that pic of Cankles is a form of birth control. But far from free mind you. That witch and her consort have cost the American people dearly.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 5, 2013 at 7:07 PM

But, these same “white women” voted in droves for Obama.

We, most of here at Hot Air, for example have spent the past 7 years being told we were/are racists for even asking questions about Obama and his wily team of thugs and hucksters…going back to the election run back in 2007-2008.

I have not one ounce of empathy nor compassion for any Obama voter, especially those who, now, today are finally asking questions or otherwise becoming disenchanted with their boy king.

These same nitwits will vote overwhelmingly for Hillary when the time comes…because they have to save America from all those radicals in the GOP, tea partiers or Libertarians who would like to see that out-dated old white-guy document called the Constitution become the law of the land….again.

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Women, including white women, are making the difference for Democrats in national elections

No they are not and in particular among white women… Romney won the white women by a very large margin in 2012… Democrats are winning the recent elections except 2010 by having a very large participation rate of blacks in elections and having over 95% of blacks vote them…

mnjg on December 5, 2013 at 7:08 PM

The Fat Man is a no go and he can watch from the sidelines with his fellow amnesty shill Rubio.

Bishop on December 5, 2013 at 7:09 PM

^^^^ What Bishop said.

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Let’s face it folks, since Hillary is a fait accompli, if we don’t nominate a woman it’s going to be 2008 all over again – just replace “racist” with “sexist” and you’ve got the Democrats’ playbook from 2017 to 2025.

KingGold on December 5, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Hillary Clinton or any other woman will fare less among women than a man… A majority of women do not trust another woman to be in charge…

mnjg on December 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Wait, that’s no woman.

Cicero43 on December 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:07 PM

And what is the GOP offering? If they’re not actually Socialists who are in on all this, then I suppose they’re being blackmailed or simply don’t care because their nests are well-feathered by lobbyists and cronies.

All the GOP should do is shut up and let the DNC implode.

There is no way in hell that a true Conservative can get in front of a mic and argue about their version of “government solutions” vs. those of the Dems. Let the Dems continue to fiddle around with people’s personal security, careers, money, health care and so on and see what happens.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Where da white women at?

Doing the hard work other commenters will not do.

turfmann on December 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM

These same nitwits will vote overwhelmingly for Hillary when the time comes…because they have to save America from all those radicals in the GOP, tea partiers or Libertarians who would like to see that out-dated old white-guy document called the Constitution become the law of the land….again.

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:07 PM

I agree with that but right now the focus needs to be 2014, and gaining the senate and keeping the house. If we can peel away just 30% of this group in 2014 and/or a huge number of them stay home, we might just get there. We’ve got to stop the train right now.

TXUS on December 5, 2013 at 7:16 PM

What kind of mother would want Obama as their child’s medical director?

VorDaj on December 5, 2013 at 7:16 PM

This is because most mothers want their children to outlive them.

VorDaj on December 5, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM

True. Sad. But, true.

We do, as an old old friend told me a long time ago, deserve the governance we allow.

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:18 PM

I agree with that but right now the focus needs to be 2014, and gaining the senate and keeping the house. If we can peel away just 30% of this group in 2014 and/or a huge number of them stay home, we might just get there. We’ve got to stop the train right now.

TXUS on December 5, 2013 at 7:16 PM

The most important goal in 2014 is to keep the House… Winning the Senate is a bonus but yet we should work hard on winning it…

mnjg on December 5, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Christie is a non-starter for me.

trigon on December 5, 2013 at 7:21 PM

What kind of mother would want Obama as their child’s medical director?

VorDaj on December 5, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Andrea Yates comes to mind.

TXUS on December 5, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Hillary Clinton or any other woman will fare less among women than a man… A majority of women do not trust another woman to be in charge…

mnjg on December 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Just like how America would never elect a black man president, right?

KingGold on December 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM

“Hey, where the white women at?”

chewmeister on December 5, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Women usually manage the checkbook and bills. They know that ObamaCare is going to cut deep into household spending.

portlandon on December 5, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Just like how America would never elect a black man president, right?

KingGold on December 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM

The point that some are trying to make is that women are going to vote more than ever before and in higher percentage for Hillary Clinton than for a man candidate… That is wrong… In fact Hillary Clinton was defeated by a man in 2008 and the democrat party voters base has larger participation of women than general electorate…

mnjg on December 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Would like to see poll results for married vs. single parent family women.

albill on December 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Have seen out in Northern Virginia and a few around Ohio…bumper stickers…”Michelle 16.”

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Any polling lately on single women? They’re the ones really making the difference in elections.

happytobehere on December 5, 2013 at 7:36 PM

I am sick of this “we need to nominate a woman” or “we need to nominate someone with such and such skin color” nonsense. First, it doesn’t work. Second, it validates liberal group identity politics and emphasizes race and/or gender over individual accomplishment and principles.

We need to nominate a conservative.

Enough with the calls for affirmative action in our nominating process.

bluegill on December 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Hillary Clinton or any other woman will fare less among women than a man… A majority of women do not trust another woman to be in charge…
 
mnjg on December 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM

 
Just like how America would never elect a black man president, right?
 
KingGold on December 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM

 
Ask the next one who runs.

rogerb on December 5, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Have seen out in Northern Virginia and a few around Ohio…bumper stickers…”Michelle 16.”

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Barf – someone on my facebook said she wished Obama could run for a 3rd term. ::shiver::

gophergirl on December 5, 2013 at 7:41 PM

The point that some are trying to make is that women are going to vote more than ever before and in higher percentage for Hillary Clinton than for a man candidate… That is wrong… In fact Hillary Clinton was defeated by a man in 2008 and the democrat party voters base has larger participation of women than general electorate…
mnjg on December 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Very true.

We would do better with an authentic, talented conservative rather than compromising with someone just because they happen to be a particular gender or ethnicity.

As for Martinez, what is her position on illegal alien amnesty? Does she support a special “pathway to citizenship” for illegal aliens? If so, she is done. Would never support her. If not, then I will be happy to evaluate her during the primary campaigns and hope she proves herself a strong candidate.

But I will NOT support anointing someone who is untested simply because they are of a particular ethnicity.

bluegill on December 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM

I am sick of this “we need to nominate a woman” or “we need to nominate someone with such and such skin color” nonsense. First, it doesn’t work. Second, it validates liberal group identity politics and emphasizes race and/or gender over individual accomplishment and principles.

We need to nominate a conservative.

Enough with the calls for affirmative action in our nominating process.

bluegill on December 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Oh my goodness I agree with every single word of this post.

gophergirl on December 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM

gophergirl on December 5, 2013 at 7:41 PM

That Facebook thing? She was merely making a choice of one of ten topic starters to rile up folks and FB friends…other choices include “There is a raccoon in my bedroom” or “I enjoy online porn” and a few others…

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM

That Facebook thing? She was merely making a choice of one of ten topic starters to rile up folks and FB friends…other choices include “There is a raccoon in my bedroom” or “I enjoy online porn” and a few others…

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM

OH! I don’t play Facebook games like that.

So should I be scared that people liked her post.

gophergirl on December 5, 2013 at 7:45 PM

gophergirl on December 5, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Scared? No.

Well…almost no.

Some folks actually want to repeal the 22nd.

That is scary.

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM

…or a more durable shift that threatens Democrats in 2016?

Oh bull, all they have to do is promise more free stuff and the leeches will flock to the polls. Add to that the prefilled ballots stored in the trunks of loyal dems poll worker’s cars and the dem is a lock for the white house in 2016.

cozmo on December 5, 2013 at 7:48 PM

We need to nominate a conservative.

Enough with the calls for affirmative action in our nominating process.

bluegill on December 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM

I agree completely. But as it isn’t even 2014 yet, I’m more than happy to let the left sell the idea that a fat bully and blowhard from NJ is the only one on the GOP bench that can win.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM

OH! I don’t play Facebook games like that.

So should I be scared that people liked her post.

gophergirl on December 5, 2013 at 7:45 PM

There are a lot of crazies out there, Angel, probably the worst among them being Obamabots. You can’t fix stupid.

TXUS on December 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM

OT…Esh this WH and those in it. Classless POS

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CoffeeLover on December 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Oh my goodness I agree with every single word of this post.

gophergirl on December 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Did it make you feel icky? And in dire need of a shower?

cozmo on December 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Oh bull, all they have to do is promise more free stuff and the leeches will flock to the polls. Add to that the prefilled ballots stored in the trunks of loyal dems poll worker’s cars and the dem is a lock for the white house in 2016.

cozmo on December 5, 2013 at 7:48 PM

And, don’t forget to add to the mix a president and AG who will likely decide NOT to prosecute election fraud, multiple-voting, felon-voting, and voter intimidation in all the likely precincts.

TXUS on December 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM

I’m as white as a woman can get (I’m a redhead) and this white girl has HATED Obamadon’tcare since the beginning.

neyney on December 5, 2013 at 7:53 PM

GG I’m with TXUS…”You can’t fix stupid.”

CoffeeLover on December 5, 2013 at 7:53 PM

There are a lot of crazies out there, Angel, probably the worst among them being Obamabots. You can’t fix stupid.

TXUS on December 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Amen to that!

gophergirl on December 5, 2013 at 7:53 PM

That Facebook thing? She was merely making a choice of one of ten topic starters to rile up folks and FB friends…other choices include “There is a raccoon in my bedroom” or “I enjoy online porn” and a few others…

coldwarrior on December 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM

That ranks right up there with Indiana University’s pondering if Santa could be a black man. If Santa is a black man, would you let him come down your chimney? and If Santa Claus is a black man, wouldn’t he only visit the ghetto?

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Before anyone says that I am interested in Martinez’s position on amnesty because of her ethnicity, I want to say right now that’s baloney. That is one of my tests for all the candidates.

Gophergirl, thanks!

I can understand the desire to specially promote women or particular ethnicities. I just think that, as conservatives, we should avoid the group identity trend and try to emphasize the importance of the individual and not people’s skin color, which should be incidental and irrelevant to who someone is.

I look to people like Margaret Thatcher, who was a strong, principled leader, and whose political identity and appeal wasn’t based around her gender.

Same goes for Cruz with his ethnicity. He is known as a talented individual, not merely a talented member of a particular ethnic group.

bluegill on December 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Same goes for Cruz with his ethnicity. He is known as a talented individual, not merely a talented member of a particular ethnic group.

bluegill on December 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Yeah, you’d never guess he was a Harvard grad. He’s smarter than that.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Yeah, you’d never guess he was a Harvard grad. He’s smarter than that.
Happy Nomad on December 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Haha. So true.

bluegill on December 5, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Women usually have the largest say/view of the ‘family budget’. They’re well aware of added costs.

Discounting the welfare group (and that’s exactly what they are) – looking for “free” stuff, the rest have to deal with a budget.

You screw with the budget, you’re going to piss them off!

GarandFan on December 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Time to get my girly geek on and watch the Sound of Music.

I know every word :)

Later all

gophergirl on December 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM

We need to nominate a conservative.

bluegill on December 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM

That right there is one of the most meaningless statements in American politics. So it’s really no surprise that you’re defaulting to it instead of responding to my evidence-supported argument that the media will try to turn 2016 into a gender-based election.

For one thing, conservatism is not a binary thing where someone is either conservative or not. Compared to George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan was a conservative; compared to Ted Cruz he was a liberal RINO. You claim to have all sorts of litmus tests for conservatism in candidates, yet you readily supported Romney in the ’12 primaries so I have no idea where your perspective is.

In point of fact, though, Susana Martinez is anti-amnesty, which is rare for a border-state governor. I’m also not surprised, seeing as how you love falsely attributing “amnesty supporter” to people with whom you disagree politically.

KingGold on December 5, 2013 at 8:03 PM

“Hey, where the white women at?”

chewmeister on December 5, 2013 at 7:30 PM

..obligatory: “Do you mind if we dance wif yo dates?”

The War Planner on December 5, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Let’s face it folks, since Hillary is a fait accompli, if we don’t nominate a woman it’s going to be 2008 all over again – just replace “racist” with “sexist” and you’ve got the Democrats’ playbook from 2017 to 2025.

KingGold on December 5, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Then you’ll fully support Sarah Palin in her quest for the nomination, right?

After all, sex is what matters to you in 2016.

njrob on December 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM

Why the picture of Larry “Bud” Mellman at the front of this post? What does he have to do with the subject at hand?

fitzfong on December 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

That’s where immigration reform comes in AP. The dem voter base has to be replenished as the party moves further to the left.

Wigglesworth on December 5, 2013 at 6:59 PM

The GOP has done an absolutely horrid job in marketing to Millennials and white women, both of whom are far more likely converts than Hispanics.

bw222 on December 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Then you’ll fully support Sarah Palin in her quest for the nomination, right?

After all, sex is what matters to you in 2016.

njrob on December 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM

No, because Sarah Palin is not the only Republican woman in existence, and we can do far better than her.

I won’t stop you from supporting her, but 2012 was probably her last chance to run and she passed it up..

KingGold on December 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Then you’ll fully support Sarah Palin in her quest for the nomination, right?

After all, sex is what matters to you in 2016.

njrob on December 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM

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No, because Sarah Palin is not the only Republican woman in existence, and we can do far better than her.

I won’t stop you from supporting her, but 2012 was probably her last chance to run and she passed it up..

KingGold on December 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

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2012 wasn’t Sarah’s “last chance” at anything, relating to running for political office.

listens2glenn on December 5, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Two words, my friends: Christie/Martinez.

It can be Walker/Martinez and Cruz/Martinez too, you know. She is the only no brainer aspect of any ticket come 2016. If she wants it.

cdog0613 on December 5, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Great article, except for that last sentence which ruined it all.

HiJack on December 5, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Not only did white women wake up. Look at Latino’s. Down over 20%. This country is finally waking up and it’s always been a mystery to me why it took so long. The answer—-There’s a lot of ignorant people who believed his lies. I never did. I vetted this Idiot before he was elected the first time. He passed up Carter 4 1/2 years ago.

tmgrant on December 6, 2013 at 6:51 AM

A lot of those white women, single or single/mother, are looking at the new prices for insurance not necessarily coverage for maternity being a new benefit. They probably already had that. It’s always going to be the bottom line that sways people. I’ll bet too, that a lot of people who thought they were going to get subsidized won’t be. Everyone is worried about losing health care insurance, and those on MC are worried about losing their docs.

Kissmygrits on December 6, 2013 at 9:49 AM