HHS: Hey, we got a million visitors yesterday!

posted at 10:41 am on December 3, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Hey, so have we — on many occasions, and we didn’t get them because we passed a Blog-Reading Mandate and cancelled people’s existing favorite reads, either. (Hmmmmm.)  But let’s not let than rain on the HHS bragging parade today, in which spokesperson Joanne Peters crows about the “stable” Healthcare.gov:

Well, “high demand” happens when the government passes a law that forces millions out of their existing insurance plan, as Phil Kerpen noted yesterday when HHS started bragging about traffic numbers, as Twitchy reported this morning

Don’t forget, too, that “demand” is a private-sector function in a market situation.  When government mandates purchases and then brags that it’s found a “demand” three weeks before the deadline to meet the mandate, that’s less than impressive for a sales pitch.  It’s a bit like bragging about demand for Breathalyzer tests based on a surge in traffic stops for suspected DUIs.

By the way … how many of the one million visitors managed to actually buy health insurance? Peters doesn’t mention that figure, but even if she did, the real number is still likely to be zero — at least so far:

Bob Shlora of Alpharetta, Ga., was supposed to be a belated Obamacare success story. After weeks of trying, the 61-year-old told ABC News he fully enrolled in a new health insurance plan through the federal marketplace over the weekend, and received a Humana policy ID number to prove it.

But two days later, his insurer has no record of the transaction, Shlora said, even though his account on the government website indicates that he has a plan.

“I feel like this: My application was taken … by a bureaucrat, it was put on a conveyor belt and it’s still going around, and it’s never going to leave the building,” he said. “I’ve lost hope. If it happens, great.”

Obama administration officials acknowledged today that some of the roughly 126,000 Americans who completed the torturous online enrollment process in October and November might not be officially signed up with their selected issuer, even if the website has told them they are.

Until HHS and CMS build the back-end systems and they actually work, very few people who think they have insurance should be celebrating … even if HHS is having a party over its visitor statistics.


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“You’re doing a fine job, Brownie” — GWB, presciently predicting obama’s legacy

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 10:44 AM

“I feel like this: My application was taken … by a bureaucrat, it was put on a conveyor belt and it’s still going around, and it’s never going to leave the building,” he said. “I’ve lost hope. If it happens, great.”

Welcome to the brave new world friend.

Scan your barcode to speak to a series of prompts and remember to smile into the cameras.

Gatsu on December 3, 2013 at 10:44 AM

If Drudge had those numbers, he’d be in a slump.

Marcus on December 3, 2013 at 10:45 AM

“I feel like this: My application was taken … by a bureaucrat, it was put on a conveyor belt and it’s still going around, and it’s never going to leave the building,” he said. “I’ve lost hope. If it happens, great.”

Great imagery. Like that single bag that continues to spin around at baggage claim in the airport. Ultimately to be picked up by some other bureaucrat and tossed in the corner with all the other unclaimed bags.

Happy Nomad on December 3, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Milbank was the other moron who reported yesterday that “obama’care’ lives”, it’s perfect now…meh, choke on obama’s shit, fool. It ain’t Beluga caviar.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 10:46 AM

FAIL!

workingclass artist on December 3, 2013 at 10:47 AM

How many of those 1 million were government workers or OFA losers inflating the numbers? That’s assuming the number is even real, which is highly dubious.

Flange on December 3, 2013 at 10:48 AM

I think this is great. The more high expectations and happy feelings they can generate the better. More attention. More people trying to sign up. More people who expect that they can go see a Doctor in January.

Full accounting and disclosure of costs and lack of service in this disaster is just around the corner.

Happy times are here. For a couple of weeks.

oldroy on December 3, 2013 at 10:49 AM

retarted

Murphy9 on December 3, 2013 at 10:50 AM

A lot of people visit IRS.gov, too. I guess that must mean that taxes are popular!

J.S.K. on December 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Don’t forget, too, that “demand” is a private-sector function in a market situation.

It’s a government function for a government “market”, too. As with all things, government slugs hear about the capitalist concept of “consumer demand” for a private product and twist it around to arrive at the government version to “demand consumers” for their substandard (usually unworkable) government facsimile of a product. “Consumer demand” … “demand consumer” … what difference, at this point, does it make?!?

On a side note, Benedict Roberts just calls it all “taxes”. He says that everything the feral government wants to do is a tax and the feral government is allowed to tax anything it wants … or nothing, if it prefers.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Goebbels dies again, laughing his dead azz off.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM

the dems need some happy…what comes after eliminating the filibuster in the senate?

DanMan on December 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM

And each of them selected another page on the website an average 3 times! We have 3 million new selectors!! We’re almost halfway to our goal of 7 million enrollees selectors!!!

NotCoach on December 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Funny how that works, the government takes something away that you need and forces you to visit their Company Store to replace it, then crows about the masses jamming the entry doors.

F**k you 52%’ers who elected this dog eating fool.

Bishop on December 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM

I’ve always said that the website debacle is only the beginning. Like hearing a rumble of thunder in the distance. Hurricane Obama has yet to make landfall.

Happy Nomad on December 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM

If Ed keeps up this negative reporting Obama is gonna declare him an enemy of the state.

Dictators hate criticism.

myiq2xu on December 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Play this, over and over.

The Thug is your Chief.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 10:53 AM

what comes after eliminating the filibuster in the senate?

DanMan on December 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Burning down Capitol Hill and giving Barky “emergency powers” to become dictator for life.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 3, 2013 at 10:54 AM

This is perfect for any topic on obama’care’ and obama himself.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Why this then?

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 10:55 AM

A lot of people visit IRS.gov, too. I guess that must mean that taxes are popular!

J.S.K. on December 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Outstanding point!

And of course DMVs must also be popular since so many people are always there from the time they open.

Happy Nomad on December 3, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Milbank was the other moron who reported yesterday that “obama’care’ lives”, it’s perfect now…meh, choke on obama’s shit, fool. It ain’t Beluga caviar.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 10:46 AM

That seems to be the left’s latest meme du juor. I wonder just how far they are willing to take their denial.

NotCoach on December 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM

The government will never get my business if I can help it. I’m willing to pay more if I can find other insurance. I haven’t been cancelled yet and I’m hoping John Roberts will see the light and vote to throw the thing out when he gets his do over next year.

COgirl on December 3, 2013 at 10:57 AM

That seems to be the left’s latest meme du juor. I wonder just how far they are willing to take their denial.

NotCoach on December 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM

I read in an article yesterday (National Standard I think) that the left is likening this to Apollo 13 where they create a workable solution out of duct tape and assorted bits and pieces. They think that they will ultimately get something cobbled together that saves the day.

IMO the Obamacare astronauts are doomed to run out of air before a plan comes together to prevent them from burning to death upon re-entry. IOW, not even rocket science can save Obamacare.

Happy Nomad on December 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM

That is a nice round number. Why not a billion? Go for broke: everybody in the world visited the website yesterday! eleven!

cep on December 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM

The Obama regime is using the same propaganda tactics that Hitler used. Tell a big enough lie for a long time and eventually people will believe it. They are mostly decent people and cannot conceive of any person telling such a despicable lie to his/her fellow citizens.

I can’t wait for the day that Obama is remembered in the same sentence with Jimmah Cahtah. The cherry on top will be that Obama will be described as being WORSE than Jimmah.

csdeven on December 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM

That seems to be the left’s latest meme du juor. I wonder just how far they are willing to take their denial.

NotCoach on December 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Forgot the link

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM

So did the diet aisle at grocery stores across America.

hillsoftx on December 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Reuters Top News ‏@Reuters 2m

One million new visits to Obamacare website Monday: White House http://reut.rs/IJwuuu
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One million new visits to Obamacare website Monday: White House

WASHINGTON Tue Dec 3, 2013 10:46am EST
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White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough said the website’s new queuing system, used in times of high traffic, worked “pretty well,” with 13,000 visitors opting to receive an email to return later on Monday when there was less traffic, and half of that group accepting that invitation.
(More…)
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/03/us-usa-healthcare-obama-idUSBRE9B204K20131203?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=992637

canopfor on December 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM

It’s my party and I’ll lie if I want to, lie if I want to.

Flange on December 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM

I read in an article yesterday (National Standard I think) that the left is likening this to Apollo 13 where they create a workable solution out of duct tape and assorted bits and pieces. They think that they will ultimately get something cobbled together that saves the day.

IMO the Obamacare astronauts are doomed to run out of air before a plan comes together to prevent them from burning to death upon re-entry. IOW, not even rocket science can save Obamacare.

Happy Nomad on December 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Of course the only thing they cobbled together on Apollo 13 was the CO2 filter. Everything else they had to rely on as is. Apollo 13 was built right from the start, and thus it was able to return our astronauts back safely even after a major catastrophe. They didn’t rebuild the damn thing mid-flight.

NotCoach on December 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Obama health care law
26m
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White House says 13,000 visitors used queue system to get email to return later on Monday when traffic eased – @Reuters

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on December 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM

One of those million visitors was me checking out the virtual waiting room it took a month to build. It was just like the one at my doctor’s office — nothing useful gets done there.

I compared prices. Found out I wasn’t allowed to get catastrophic insurance — because socialism.

jdpaz on December 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Or, it could have been the same person coming back multiple times after the site crashes them out. Notice they didn’t say they had 1 million unique visitors. (Which is the way a legitimate website makes its claims.)

GWB on December 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Huffpo headline is this NYT article about how Obamacide is already driving down health care expenditures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/business/affordable-care-act-so-far-seems-likely-to-cost-less-than-expected.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0

How does this make any sense when so few people are actually enrolling?

juliesa on December 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Internal squirrel for them

cmsinaz on December 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Peanuts

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

They should claim 10 million and victory. For not wanting to declare mission accomplished, it sure sounds that way.

oldroy on December 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

How does this make any sense when so few people are actually enrolling?

juliesa on December 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

They think that Goebbels is dead. He’s all over them.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

They didn’t rebuild the damn thing mid-flight.

NotCoach on December 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Good point! LOL

Happy Nomad on December 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

I read in an article yesterday (National Standard I think) that the left is likening this to Apollo 13 where they create a workable solution out of duct tape and assorted bits and pieces. They think that they will ultimately get something cobbled together that saves the day.

LOL. Apollo 13 was a space mission that only the US was capable of even launching. This is a friggin web site front-end that any 15 year old could build … and much more quickly than three+ years. Building a wen site front-end, these days, is about the equivalent of installing phone lines.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 3, 2013 at 11:09 AM

They should claim 10 million and victory. For not wanting to declare mission accomplished, it sure sounds that way.

oldroy on December 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

And every Soviet five-year-plan was an unqualified success too. Success is so much easier when you don’t have to do anything but declare it.

Happy Nomad on December 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM

How does this make any sense when so few people are actually enrolling?

juliesa on December 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Easy. All the people who have been kicked off their plans are having to cancel medical procedures, and the people with high new deductibles are looking at having to pay out of pocket and so canceling their procedures, too. Therefore, “driving down health care expenditures”!

GWB on December 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM

How does this make any sense when so few people are actually enrolling?

juliesa on December 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

It doesn’t. They don’t care. They think if they hold on just a little longer that things will work out. When the 47%’ers figure out that they aren’t getting the freebies they were promised there will be hell to pay.

Live it up, Dems. Eat drink and be merry. Happy times will last through Christmas, maybe New Years.

oldroy on December 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM

“I feel like this: My application was taken … by a bureaucrat, it was put on a conveyor belt and it’s still going around, and it’s never going to leave the building,” he said. “I’ve lost hope. If it happens, great.”

But did you pay yet? Doesn’t sound like it.

Why would Humana send you a card for a policy for which you have not paid a premium?

mankai on December 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM

And every Soviet five-year-plan was an unqualified success too. Success is so much easier when you don’t have to do anything but declare it.

Happy Nomad on December 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Quick. Name one thing Obama has ever doen in his life that hasn’t been handed to him, including both elections.

oldroy on December 3, 2013 at 11:13 AM

One of those million visitors was me checking out the virtual waiting room it took a month to build. It was just like the one at my doctor’s office — nothing useful gets done there.

jdpaz on December 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Does it have virtual 18-month old copies of People Magazine like the real life ones? Highlights for Children to keep the LIVs happy?

Seriously, I wonder how many of those visitors were told to come back later. The only number that really matters is the number of new enrollments they managed to eke out of the Healthcare.gov exchange.

And still in the offing, discussion of how many people have actually purchased health insurance and their insurers know about it. Also the possible court ruling saying that Obamacare subsidies are illegal through the federal exchange.

Happy Nomad on December 3, 2013 at 11:17 AM

A HA commenter yesterday typed that a retired friend, a veteran, who can’t find a job now, sits in front of the computer and enters bogus applications on health’care’.gov.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM

A HA commenter yesterday typed that a retired friend, a veteran, who can’t find a job now, sits in front of the computer and enters bogus applications on health’care’.gov.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM

LOL!

NotCoach on December 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM

A lot of people visit IRS.gov, too. I guess that must mean that taxes are popular!

J.S.K. on December 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM

I guess criminals really like prison, that’s why they’re full.

Flange on December 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Just a small percentage of those who lost “If You Like Your Plan” and “If You Like Your Doctor”. I am on Medicare and have lost 3 Doctors already. All the money I paid into the plan to support “The Greatest Generation” is not there for me when I need it”

BEWARE to the young who are being targeted to buy into this lie, you are next to experience what the government can give they can take away.

Wade on December 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM

My question about the number is how many were reporters, how many were people inside HHS shocked that they could get in, how many were automated testing procedures, and then the big question is how many were unique IP addresses?

I bet the number in reality is at less than half that

ConservativePartyNow on December 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Yeah, they got the Apollo 13 astronauts back alive, but the mission failed.

Kind of an important point.

Bat Chain Puller on December 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM

“I feel like this: My application was taken … by a bureaucrat, it was put on a conveyor belt and it’s still going around, and it’s never going to leave the building,” he said. “I’ve lost hope. If it happens, great.”

But, champ, something probably did leave the building — your brand new self, who happens to be a Russian hacker enjoying being you.

Obamacare. Discovering a brand new you. ™

TXUS on December 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Reminds me of the late 90s when the shysters on Wall Street were coming up with all the bizarre metrics to justify internet companies losing tens of millions of dollars and their stock price was sky high.

In other words, LIES.

jukin3 on December 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Why don’t a whole lot of HA readers go on the website and try to enroll as ficticious customers.

Maybe with thousands extra people on the site, it will help them find more bugs to fix.

It would help Obamacares numbers look so good.

txdoc on December 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM

You don’t “have” insurance until IT’S PAID FOR!

GarandFan on December 3, 2013 at 11:39 AM

HUZZAH! Over a million visitors!

Guessing I was one of the as I went to the site landing page and that is it. This is a non-metric metric. Odd that they arent sharing how many actual registrants, how many applications, and how many successful enrollments….

Wonder if there is a reason for that?

abnormal_1 on December 3, 2013 at 11:41 AM

These people would be getting on these trains even if we didn’t have these machine guns pointed at them, I’m sure of it.

2Tru2Tru on December 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

HUZZAH! Over a million visitors!

Guessing I was one of the as I went to the site landing page and that is it. This is a non-metric metric. Odd that they arent sharing how many actual registrants, how many applications, and how many successful enrollments….

Wonder if there is a reason for that?

abnormal_1 on December 3, 2013 at 11:41 AM

And how many are visiting their current Dr. today for sticker shock.

Wade on December 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Anyone think PutinCare has security?

Wade on December 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM

But, champ, something probably did leave the building — your brand new self, who happens to be a Russian hacker enjoying being you.

Obamacare. Discovering a brand new you. ™

TXUS on December 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM

You mean healthcare.ru is not a valid mirror site for .gov?

slickwillie2001 on December 3, 2013 at 12:13 PM

jdpaz on December 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Same here. I was just rubber neckin’ when I found out that you have to be under 29 and have a hardship to qualify for a catastrophic policy.

This law is truly lunacy.

TexAz on December 3, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Hey, so have we — on many occasions, and we didn’t get them because we passed a Blog-Reading Mandate and cancelled people’s existing favorite reads, either.

– Ed

Ed,
I didn’t know you guys could get 1million eyeballs in a day. That changes my whole take on this site. I scribble a comment or 2 in a day thinking it may be read by a few dozen readers. Now I’m going to have to think before I comment. ugghhh.

As far as a blog reading mandate, if you want it like the ACA then make it so young and wealthy readers have to read and summarize posts/comments for the old and poor. And make sure they can’t log into the site. Oh, and make sure that they can’t choose their bloggers. Some viewers would get stuck with Jazz and Guy and some with Erika and Dusty.

BoxHead1 on December 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM

I wouldn’t put it past these nitwits to put code into each page to generate multiple ‘hits’ in order to push their lame PR campaign that a website 60% completed is ‘fully functional’.

Athos on December 3, 2013 at 12:40 PM

How many of those visitors successfully enrolled?

How about – how many of them THINK they successfully enrolled?

hawksruleva on December 3, 2013 at 12:45 PM

It doesn’t. They don’t care. They think if they hold on just a little longer that things will work out. When the 47%’ers figure out that they aren’t getting the freebies they were promised there will be hell to pay.

Live it up, Dems. Eat drink and be merry. Happy times will last through Christmas, maybe New Years.

oldroy on December 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM

I hope so.

I think they are simply running out the clock. They want to establish the baseline as 0bamcare. By the time everyone revolts, they are counting on it being ‘impossible’ to unravel and thus the default state of affairs.

I’d like to see the whole thing dismantled. I suspect there will be millions of people adversely affected by the repeal. Far fewer than the continuation. Still, it should be unwound post haste.

freedomfirst on December 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM

“Hey, we got a million visitors yesterday!”

What the WH and the technicians working on the web site did not tell you is that 950,000 of those ‘visitors’ were foreign and domestic HACKSERS…

easyt65 on December 3, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Don’t ever accuse a dhimocrapt as being a politician. Politicians work with politicians and people of other political persuasions to put together the best legislation possible. Dhimocrapts are just dictatorial thugs. They rule by decree, and if it was in their power, they would eliminate elections, although they are always foaming at the mouth about democracy.

Note now, the filibuster was designed to force politicians to work together and listen to dissenting opinions about legislation, or provide a fail-safe to prevent really bad legislation from going forward. Does all this sound familiar? The dhimocrapts (pelosi and reid) rigged the legislative process to eliminate any distasteful republican input. Their legislation stank and was unworkable, as most observant people forewarned. The dhimocrapt thugs did this with the aid and support of the media. Maybe doctors should treat the media the same way the media treats the doctors. You know, tell the media person everything is all right and don’t treat them except with placebos.

Meanwhile, obamacare is turning out exactly as expected as a uni-political program.

Old Country Boy on December 3, 2013 at 1:23 PM

I hope so.

I think they are simply running out the clock. They want to establish the baseline as 0bamcare. By the time everyone revolts, they are counting on it being ‘impossible’ to unravel and thus the default state of affairs.

I’d like to see the whole thing dismantled. I suspect there will be millions of people adversely affected by the repeal. Far fewer than the continuation. Still, it should be unwound post haste.

freedomfirst on December 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Name one success story. Just one. A fully paid enrollment, and list the premium and deductible. Every single American will be harmed by this.

oldroy on December 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Why would ANYONE take their word that they got 1M visitors. Is there any independent verification? No, not that I’m aware of. 1M visitors. It works 90% of the time. 1 second wait times. Blah, blah, blah. Every one of those is a made-up number!!!

Every time you write about it, you should at least call them “alleged”.

jeanneb on December 3, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Visitors or hits? There is a big difference. A page can have 25 hits on it (various graphics and such). Many time people misread the “hits” and the number of visitors.

Plus how many are part of the Obama machine whose job is to fake visits:
“Shirley, your quota is to go to the ObamaCare website 1,000 times today. Shirley….that is why we are paying you $10 a hour”.

albill on December 3, 2013 at 3:55 PM

And there are “unique visitors” to the website; one also get stats on the number of times a visitor visited. (A person going to the site 50 times trying to get in is not 50 visitors.)

Plus there are number of pages visited. If a visitor went to page one and then went no further, then that is not much of a visitor.
(How many pages does one have to go to to get enrolled?)

albill on December 3, 2013 at 4:02 PM

HHS: Hey, we got a million visitors yesterday!

So did the nation’s zoos…but none of the animals were actually sold!

Also, note that:

1. Clicks are NOT SALES.

2. Even unique visitors are NOT SALES…and HHS never even said that the “million visitors” were unique! Does HHS even know how many of the visitors were counted two or more times?

CLOSING QUESTION: Since the healthcare.gov website has absolutely NO MEANINGFUL SECURITY…not even the “minimum commercial standards” kind!! So how many identities were stolen yesterday due to gross HHS negligence?

Without security, the potential cost to taxpayers for remediation of stolen personal information threatens to dwarf even the outrageously high cost of Obamacare “coverage”!!!

landlines on December 3, 2013 at 8:41 PM