Gibbs: Hey, maybe the White House will start being honest about ObamaCare now

posted at 9:21 am on December 2, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Has the White House learned a lesson yet from the fallout from ObamaCare? Former press secretary and Barack Obama campaign guru Robert Gibbs certainly hopes so.  Gibbs tells Morning Joe today that the use of foggy metrics like “works for a vast majority of users” has left the Obama administration open to scathing criticisms of its honesty and competence while many users see the site fail to process their requests.  At least, Gibbs hopes that the White House will deal more honestly with their failures to get the back end of the infrastructure — that which actually enrolls and subsidizes those insurance plans — finally up and working (via The Weekly Standard):

“Well, look, I think, you know, the notion that it works for a vast majority of users, obviously, is as many have pointed out an arbitrary measure. We don’t know the exact number. It is clear from reporting that people are having a better user experience,” said Gibbs.

“Again, I think the pressure now will be on the administration to be more forthcoming about what’s happening on the back-end and whether insurance companies are getting the information.”

On the other hand, perhaps they’re being just a bit too honest. Chuck Todd noted yesterday on Meet the Press that the administration bragged in its release that the HHS development project was now “operating with private-sector velocity and effectiveness.” If it took 44 months for them to achieve that level of operation, Todd says, isn’t that a pretty good reason not to pursue government-run solutions to private-sector reform? No kidding (via Newsbusters and Mediaite):

CHUCK TODD: David, the most interesting thing in this report, right, page one– it’s page three of the report, it says here that, “The team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness.”

DAVID GREGORY: Yeah.

CHUCK TODD: Okay, that is an acknowledgement that, “You know what? If this was a government operation for a long time and it failed, now we’re bringing in the private sector folks.” I mean, that is an indictment on the whole idea of government as a solution, frankly, when you look at [unintelligible].

And that’s assuming that the Healthcare.gov team actually has achieved that level of competence.  In the private sector, companies don’t brag about that — it’s the minimum expected in a competitive market.  The fact that they have to brag about that tends to make one skeptical that they even comprehend what “private-sector velocity and effectiveness” means.


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This administration will never be forthright

C’mon

cmsinaz on December 2, 2013 at 9:24 AM

How the hell would anyone in this Regime know what “private sector velocity and effectiveness” even means? I wasn’t aware anyone there had ever worked in the private sector.

Harbingeing on December 2, 2013 at 9:25 AM

The fact that they have to brag about that tends to make one skeptical that they even comprehend what “private-sector velocity and effectiveness” means.

It means that phrase tested well in focus groups.

Flange on December 2, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Andrea Mitchell was having a great deal of trouble choking out her conclusion.

The black woman looked as if she was about to start crying after uber effeminate David Brooks used a pretty nifty football analogy to tear down government intervention.

BuckeyeSam on December 2, 2013 at 9:27 AM

When your former Baghdad Bob Gibbs is telling you to be more honest and forthcoming, you know you’re more dishonest than even the Devil.

rbj on December 2, 2013 at 9:29 AM

To the left,“private-sector velocity and effectiveness” is normally derisive. Now it’s a measure of success?

BKeyser on December 2, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Gibbs just happened to be there for the ‘competent’ part of the Obama period — i.e. the part where not enough people were negatively affected by their programs for blow-back to arrive. Switch positions, and he’d be dolloping out the BS in the same large helping as Jay Carney, while Jay was sitting with Scarborough urging the White House to be more transparent about ObamaCare’s status.

jon1979 on December 2, 2013 at 9:30 AM

private sector velocity and effectiveness

I sense a late-night parody of this phrase coming on. I know I’d be working overtime if I were a writer for one of the late-night shows.

For starters, how about a parody of Obama and Sebelius hovering over some healthcare.gov techies measuring the system’s response time with radar guns calibrated not in miles per hour, but a completed response in weeks or months.

BuckeyeSam on December 2, 2013 at 9:33 AM

“operating with private-sector velocity and effectiveness.”

Maybe Obama can give us a speech about how well the websites profit and earnings ratio is doing.

NotCoach on December 2, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Politicians are the salespeople and the bureaucrats run the operations. It’s all a PR sham with power and money being the payoff.

Vince on December 2, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Andrea Mitchell: “Now, we are at risk at losing the credibility of government for a generation …”

WE are at risk?

WE?

In poker we call that a “tell”.

PackerBronco on December 2, 2013 at 9:40 AM

CHUCK TODD: [unintelligible].

More accurate

Rio Linda Refugee on December 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM

For starters, how about a parody of Obama and Sebelius hovering over some healthcare.gov techies measuring the system’s response time with radar guns calibrated not in miles per hour, but a completed response in weeks or months.

BuckeyeSam on December 2, 2013 at 9:33 AM

I’m guessing that this is like something out of The Hunger Games. Many enter the field but the first person to have successfully enrolled in Obamacare AND has purchased a plan will be treated like a national hero.

Happy Nomad on December 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM

the administration bragged in its release that the HHS development project was now “operating with private-sector velocity and effectiveness.

But….I thought anything that happened in the private sector was “You didn’t build that! Thank the government for your success!”

Sooooo, uhh in this case the government built something as effective as the private sector would have done it even though the private sector doesn’t build anything without government assistance.

*runs hand over face and pulls chin*

Oooooo K.

Bishop on December 2, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Good enough for government work ™

simkeith on December 2, 2013 at 9:47 AM

The White House will start being honest when pigs fly.

myiq2xu on December 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM

This is the party of lies and deceit, and it has served them so well. Do you really think they would go so opposite against their grain?!

Sterling Holobyte on December 2, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Will half the country ever realize that they have been screwed by this charlatan and his healthcare scam?

rplat on December 2, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Doesn’t anybody have the profit and earnings ratios yet?

/

mankai on December 2, 2013 at 9:52 AM

It is clear from reporting that people are having a better user experience,” said Gibbs.

What’s clear is the lack of honest reporting. Nothing is clear from the Obama-media these days. I can’t remember a more activist media in all my half century of life.

HotAirian on December 2, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Obama telling the truth?

Nevah gonna happen.

Key West Reader on December 2, 2013 at 9:56 AM

…maybe the White House will start being honest about ObamaCare…

Get your two span bridge cheap, right here! Bridge for sale!

TerryW on December 2, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Gibbs: Hey, maybe the White House will start being honest about ObamaCare now

Yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt!!

RandallinHerndon on December 2, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Will half the country ever realize that they have been screwed by this charlatan and his healthcare scam?

rplat on December 2, 2013 at 9:51 AM

No, and that is the sad part… I pray for the Republic…

Khun Joe on December 2, 2013 at 9:59 AM

There are going to be even More problems as this thing progresses. Have they tested anything that involves updating your information? For example, currently my husband and I qualify for big subsidies if we were to sign up now. What happens if by some miracle my husband starts selling alot more houses and our income doubles? We would then be required to repay all that premium money (over $12k) or even be accused of fraud. So I assume you would have to go in and have all that recalculated as we went along through the year. Can the system EVEN DO THAT????

BeachBum on December 2, 2013 at 9:59 AM

It’s also clear from reporting that Detroit is close to being as modern as Tokyo, and GM is going to produce a car as reliable as a Honda.

Bishop on December 2, 2013 at 10:00 AM

White House? Honesty? The two do not go together in the same sentence.

sadatoni on December 2, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Can the system EVEN DO THAT????

BeachBum on December 2, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Yes the system can do that, it can do anything. ANY. THING.

In fact, a few weeks from now it will be discovered that all the fixes and redo’s caused DeathCare to have some unfortunate consequences.

Human decisions are removed from the health industry. DeathCare begins to learn, at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. eastern time, January 1st 2014.

In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

You know the rest. Merry effin Christmas.

Bishop on December 2, 2013 at 10:06 AM

It is clear from reporting that people are having a better user experience,” said Gibbs.

I don’t know about anybody else but, for me, I expect to successfully complete the deal to have a good user experience. If I’m on Amazon or Kayak, it doesn’t matter if the system craps out before I put anything in my cart or simply won’t let me check out.

Seriously, are we defining “better user experience” as getting a few more screens into Healthcare.gov before it gives an error message?

Happy Nomad on December 2, 2013 at 10:07 AM

CHUCK TODD: Okay, that is an acknowledgement that, “You know what? If this was a government operation for a long time and it failed, now we’re bringing in the private sector folks.” I mean, that is an indictment on the whole idea of government as a solution, frankly, when you look at [unintelligible].

Cue Gomer Pyle: “Surprise, surprise, surprise.”

TXUS on December 2, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Yes the system can do that, it can do anything. ANY. THING.

In fact, a few weeks from now it will be discovered that all the fixes and redo’s caused DeathCare to have some unfortunate consequences.

Human decisions are removed from the health industry. DeathCare begins to learn, at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. eastern time, January 1st 2014.

In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

You know the rest. Merry effin Christmas.

Bishop on December 2, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Reminds me of an 80′s movie I just re-watched. In the movie War Games, a super computer (WOPR) replaced humans and was unable to differentiate between a war game and actual thermonuclear war. So, in summary, the ObamaScare website will be used to mount thermonuclear war on our health care inductry.

RandallinHerndon on December 2, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Trump said this morning one of his employees could have built this site for 1 (ONE) million dollars. None of these Idiots would last 5 (FIVE) minutes in the private sector. Where in the world do they find these IDIOTS?

tmgrant on December 2, 2013 at 10:12 AM

To the left,“private-sector velocity and effectiveness” is normally derisive. Now it’s a measure of success?

BKeyser on December 2, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Obama old hotness: I’m going to change the way Washington works.
Obama new hotness: You can’t change Washington from the inside.

Obama old hotness: Government needs to be in control.
Obama new hotness: The private sector is teh awesome.

Paul-Cincy on December 2, 2013 at 10:14 AM

It’s also clear from reporting that Detroit is close to being as modern as Tokyo, and GM is going to produce a car as reliable as a Honda.

Bishop on December 2, 2013 at 10:00 AM

A Potemkin industry in a Potemkin city. Designed not to deceive our dear leader about the real state of affairs but, rather, to give the media a “narrative” that can protect the administration from criticism. Much like the Theresienstadt concentration camp was disguised as a model Jewish relocation camp for Nazi propaganda.

Happy Nomad on December 2, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Is Gibbs now angling to get on team Clinton?

albill on December 2, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Hey Chuck – 1995 called and wants its goatee back.

jangle12 on December 2, 2013 at 10:27 AM

It is clear from reporting that people are having a better user experience,” said Gibbs.

So, if a ship is sinking, would giving the passengers complimentary drinks and snacks qualify as making the experience “better”?

iurockhead on December 2, 2013 at 10:28 AM

It means that phrase tested well in focus groups.

Flange on December 2, 2013 at 9:25 AM

I had a similar thought. Mine was more along the lines of some intern who had read a number of techno-thrillers came up with some talking points.

Either that or someone pulled it out of their @ss.

freedomfirst on December 2, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Imagine if Amazon, Ebay, Kayak, et. al, were only able to allow 50,000 people on their websites at a time. They would not be in business today! I just love how this administration considers this to be a point to proclaim Obama-DemocratCare’s success! They have no clue whatsoever!

fbcmusicman on December 2, 2013 at 10:33 AM

How is “My website works perfect now” honest?

obmagoebbels is in full propaganda swing.

Schadenfreude on December 2, 2013 at 10:34 AM

So essentially what we have is a 500 lb. man expressing satisfaction as he has now done enough exercise to walk to the mailbox before collapsing…#success.

hillsoftx on December 2, 2013 at 10:36 AM

The Big Liar of America – throw this at all who say that obama doesn’t lie.

Schadenfreude on December 2, 2013 at 10:36 AM

YA,, BUT,,,, that’s what you conservatives always say,,

uh, don’t ya see Obama has to over come you and the tech problems at the same time,,

uh, But, but, uh,,, now we all share in the inner city women not married and with 6 kids getting free health care and government checks so’s the missing man can get his BMW payments made on time…… we all get to feel better don’t ys seeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

gee wizz you guys are mean….

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 2, 2013 at 10:39 AM

The site is not telling people if their doctor is part of obama’care’ or not.

Only insane people go to the site. If you want your identity stolen, you go there.

Schadenfreude on December 2, 2013 at 10:40 AM

The 4 9s has a whole different meaning to this admin — something about evil teabaggers

AH_C on December 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM

CHUCK TODD: David, the most interesting thing in this report, right, page one– it’s page three of the report, it says here that, “The team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness.”

Measured in kilo-victims per second.

Steve Z on December 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Liberalism is a great thing as long as it lives in the theoretical. It’s when the rubber meets the road where you find out that it’s not feasible. “Here ended the lesson.”

supersport667 on December 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Obama king of lie will not try to get a 51 vote Senate and a RINO made vote in the House to put a 10,000 page Climate Change bill on U.S. that will lie U.S. back into a Dark Age economy.

The job?,, CO2 a plant food has to be lied into a deadly gas.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM

ObamaCare 2.0 is like playing SimCity.

You’re not really doing anything, but it tells you that you’re a winner.

BobMbx on December 2, 2013 at 10:55 AM

I’ve lived my life with 2 principles ……. I do not harm innocent people, and I do not steal.

too bad Americans will not demand that of themselves and their GubRmint.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on December 2, 2013 at 10:56 AM

The Big Liar of America – throw this at all who say that obama doesn’t lie.

Schadenfreude on December 2, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Hmmm….I think I’ve seen that before.

BobMbx on December 2, 2013 at 10:59 AM

obama to bow to Iran, literally, soon.

Schadenfreude on December 2, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Private sector velocity and effectiveness my butt.

Web sites aren’t supposed to work just for the “vast majority” of users, and that itself is probably only a snapshot, indicating a steady fail rate.

Imagine if you logged onto Amazon and knew perfectly well that it might, or might not work. And that you might or might not get your product. (And that it wasn’t secure. And that the vendor might not get your order straight. Etc. etc. etc.)

I wouldn’t waste my time even trying, and neither would any but the most desperate.

The administration’s attitude toward the whole thing is absurd. It’s like selling cars, and saying to the customer, “Well, the vast majority of our customers are able to enter the showroom. Some of them even manage to drive home a new car. We think.”

Alana on December 2, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Gibbs: Hey, maybe the White House will start being honest about ObamaCare now

In 5+ years, this Administration hasn’t been honest about anything. Why would we expect them to start now?

In the private sector, companies don’t brag about that — it’s the minimum expected in a competitive market. The fact that they have to brag about that tends to make one skeptical that they even comprehend what “private-sector velocity and effectiveness” means.

In the private sector, websites / systems that are between 60 and 70% complete aren’t touted as complete. Websites that don’t have the ability to process payments to close transactions aren’t touted as complete. Websites that have a success rate of, at best 80%, to get a product into a shopping cart, aren’t touted as complete.

Athos on December 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM

The White House will start being honest when pigs fly.
myiq2xu on December 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM

I’m reporting this to GEICO!

Another Drew on December 2, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Trump said this morning one of his employees could have built this site for 1 (ONE) million dollars. None of these Idiots would last 5 (FIVE) minutes in the private sector. Where in the world do they find these IDIOTS?
tmgrant on December 2, 2013 at 10:12 AM

CGI is a Canadian company.

Another Drew on December 2, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Expecting Obama to be honest would be hilarious if it were so tragic for this country.

jqc1970 on December 2, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Trump said this morning one of his employees could have built this site for 1 (ONE) million dollars. None of these Idiots would last 5 (FIVE) minutes in the private sector. Where in the world do they find these IDIOTS?

tmgrant on December 2, 2013 at 10:12 AM

CGI is a Canadian company.

Another Drew on December 2, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Michelle’s friend’s company really needed that few hundred million dollars of business!

slickwillie2001 on December 2, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Gibbs: Hey, maybe the White House will start being honest about ObamaCare now
…Gibbs, please, please, please hold your breath until the OBOZO regime is honest about anything. PLEASE !!!!

TeaPartyNation on December 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM

I would like to test the “operating with private-sector velocity and effectiveness” theory with customers on HealthCare.gov vs Amazon to see which one could complete a transaction quicker live on prime-time TV. It could be a nightly game show until the website is up to speed.

HellCat on December 2, 2013 at 9:47 PM