Video: Relaunch of most embarrassing gov’t website ever going about as well as you’d think

posted at 3:31 pm on December 1, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

According to Fox News Sunday, the new Healthcare.gov site has not quite achieved the promised “fully functional” status by the November 30th deadline.  In fact, the site still can’t verify identities for potential enrollees, which means that consumers can’t be sure they’re seeing the right information for coverage options.  After forty-two months of development and nine weeks of futility and failure, this isn’t exactly a confidence-builder (via The Weekly Standard):

“Federal officials promised that healthcare.gov would work smoothly for a vast majority of users starting today. But that has not been the case so far because this morning the critical verification system is unavailable. That’s the system that confirms identities and makes sure people are receiving proper coverage information.

“And applications cannot be submitted without this ant step. The site says this particular problem should be solved within 24 hours. And there is another error much earlier in the process as well. When the site asks if an insurance agent or navigator is assisting you with your application. Ater clicking none of these people are offering any guidance, the next screen incorrectly displays a message declaring the opposite. The banner says, you told us another person is helping you.

“Furthermore, an address associated with healthcare.gov has sent several erroneous e-mails this morning with an alert suggesting that logging in at the website will reveal a new message, however no message ever appeared. Officials have said November 30th was not a magical relaunch date for healthcare.gov, and that like any site, they predict there will be times moving forward when it does not perform optimally.”

A “magical relaunch date”? That was the administration’s initial promise — that all of the bugs would be worked out by December 1, a deadline that is more than just an arbitrary date on the calendar. In order to meet their January 1 deadline for the individual mandate, the site has to be able to enroll millions of people no later than December 23rd — and then the back-end issues have to be fixed, and an entire subsidy payment system launched to ensure that the coverage actually takes effect for those enrolled through Healthcare.gov.

If they still can’t get the front end to verify an enrollee’s identity, just imagine the status of the 834 transmission and subsidy payment infrastructure.  And this is after a month-long push to fix these very problems.

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The problems with his health-care law are self-inflicted, and the damage now transcends questions about the law itself. It has infected his presidency more broadly.

He is in too much trouble right now to stand back and try to fully grasp what caused the health-care legislation — this grand vision — to be introduced with so many problems that even his most loyal supporters are clearly dismayed. What could he have done to prevent them? Did he, as his conservative critics contend, put too much faith in ambitious designs and the government’s ability to carry them out?

Schadenfreude, pure!!!

Schadenfreude on December 1, 2013 at 3:32 PM

the site has to be able to enroll millions of people no later than December 23rd

Watch out Christmas, you’re about to be scapegoated by the Regime.

forest on December 1, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Yet all I hear from the ABC News (radio) at the top of the hour on the local *conservative* talk radio channel in Dallas (go figure) is that all is well, and the site can handle 10′s of thousands of people getting on and shopping for insurance.

Where’s the truth?

Midas on December 1, 2013 at 3:35 PM

And this is after a month-long push to fix these very problems.

Two months?

Midas on December 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Where’s the truth?

Midas on December 1, 2013 at 3:35 PM

CNN Stumbled upon some truth on air.

forest on December 1, 2013 at 3:38 PM

He finds performance for performance’s sake distasteful.

Dan Baltz, expire in obama’s azz, of suffication from what you consume. It ain’t Beluga caviar, fool.

Schadenfreude on December 1, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Sorry, link here.

Schadenfreude on December 1, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Where’s the truth?

Midas on December 1, 2013 at 3:35 PM

The Truth is, no matter how you wrap a crap sandwich, it’s still a crap sandwich.

The website was never the real problem.

trigon on December 1, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Play this and make it go around, until Nov. 2014.

Schadenfreude on December 1, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Why do they think anyone is going to the O-site for anything anyway?

Most people had health insurance that they liked.

Until O-care destroyed the working system.

O-Catch-23: ruin a functioning system to get enrollees.

Great Plan, Barack.

Schmuck.

profitsbeard on December 1, 2013 at 3:43 PM

“The fix is a success – it now takes 10 seconds longer to crash”

Officials have said November 30th was not a magical relaunch date …”

Schadenfreude on December 1, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Until O-care destroyed the working system.

what was working about the previous system?

We pay the most (by far) for health care, but our life expectancy is in the toilet.

see: http://www.economicpopulist.org/files/u1/ushealthmoneyvslife.jpg

triple on December 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Until O-care destroyed the working system.

what was working about the previous system?

We pay the most (by far) for health care, but our life expectancy is in the toilet.

see: http://www.economicpopulist.org/files/u1/ushealthmoneyvslife.jpg

triple on December 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Choking chickens is not covered by O-care.

profitsbeard on December 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM

triplestupid is clueless.

Schadenfreude on December 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Officials have said November 30th was not a magical relaunch date for healthcare.gov, and that like any site, they predict there will be times moving forward when it does not perform optimally.

Name one site where “not performing optimally” means completely unable to perform any of it’s intended functions.

Who are these “officials” making this claim anyway?

Lost in Jersey on December 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM

From insiders, the updated and ‘improved’ website only ‘works’ from the front end. Nothing, not even going through all the steps on the site, will enable anyone to sign up. Nothing at the back end works, nada. They haven’t even attempted to fix, or to test from start to finish.

Today is like yesterday, no matter what they say.

2014 people will die due to obama and obama’care.

2014 people will lose their jobs or their full time status, due to obama and obama’care’.

2014 the economy will tank due to obama and obama’care’.

Media, Iran squirrels. Die in obama’s azz, you chitconsumers. It ain’t Beluga caviar, fools. I hope you all choke. YOU no longer deserve to live/work freely. The constitution gave you much but you NO longer deserve/earn such freedoms.

Schadenfreude on December 1, 2013 at 3:50 PM

He says it’s fixed… now can’t we all just move along? He keeps his promises, his wife says so!

MT on December 1, 2013 at 3:50 PM

“The deadline has been met for website fix”

– The Goebellian WH

Schadenfreude on December 1, 2013 at 3:50 PM

GWB: Mission Accomplished.

BO: Errr. There is no mission. Uhhh. There never was a mission. Ahhh. We’re sorry if you inferred from things we probably never said that there was a mission. Errr. If there ever were to be a mission, we, uhhh, couldn’t say when it might be accomplished. Ahhh. Have you heard about my pivot to jobs?

trigon on December 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM

I have not been able to locate obama’s first announcement regarding what was supposed to be accomplished by his November 30 target. Does someone have that?

GaltBlvnAtty on December 1, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Officials have said November 30th was not a magical relaunch date for healthcare.gov, and that like any site, they predict there will be times moving forward when it does not perform optimally.

So is that to say it is performing optimally now? The front end isn’t even working to an “experiential level” that HHS would be proud of. And this isn’t even with what is going on behind the curtain as they try to operate Obamacare.

The problem with Obamacare has little to do with the website.

Happy Nomad on December 1, 2013 at 3:56 PM

what was working about the previous system?

We pay the most (by far) for health care, but our life expectancy is in the toilet.

see: http://www.economicpopulist.org/files/u1/ushealthmoneyvslife.jpg

triple on December 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

You are a stupid idiot with retarded talking points. I would suggest that you try to think for yourself but I fear that the result would be tragic.

trapeze on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Break out the beer and popcorn. We are seeing the Fall of the House of Seven Obamas. (with apologies to Nathanial Hawthorne.)

Exit question: When Dec. 23 rolls around and we can still not sign up and get the necessary insurance policy paperwork in hand, will the Obama regime still dare tax people who could not meet this Catch-22 mandate?

simkeith on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Link it and date it. LOL

astonerii on December 1, 2013 at 4:01 PM

I have not been able to locate obama’s first announcement regarding what was supposed to be accomplished by his November 30 target. Does someone have that?

GaltBlvnAtty on December 1, 2013 at 3:53 PM

I don’t know if it was the first from the rat-eared wonder but this is from November 6th in Dallas. Link

Happy Nomad on December 1, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

This isn’t a competition for stupidest comment but if it were…

trapeze on December 1, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

.
Then you woke up.

listens2glenn on December 1, 2013 at 4:06 PM

meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details. libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Meanwhile other polls show that I won’t sign up even with a gun to my head.

So there’s that…

wolly4321 on December 1, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Until O-care destroyed the working system.

what was working about the previous system?

We pay the most (by far) for health care, but our life expectancy is in the toilet.

see: http://www.economicpopulist.org/files/u1/ushealthmoneyvslife.jpg

foul out on December 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

LOL, any troll can cherry-pick stats lifted from another blog. We’re used to it here.

G+ for effort.

Del Dolemonte on December 1, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Exit question: When Dec. 23 rolls around and we can still not sign up and get the necessary insurance policy paperwork in hand, will the Obama regime still dare tax people who could not meet this Catch-22 mandate?

simkeith on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

That’s less of a concern than the thosands who wake up with a hangover on 1 January without any insurance at all, thanks to Obamacare’s enrollment process. This is what has the Dems crapping their pants. And why today’s lie about it being an unqualified success of a fix is designed to keep Dems from bolting for the doors on Obamacare.

Happy Nomad on December 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM

what was working about the previous system?

We pay the most (by far) for health care, but our life expectancy is in the toilet.

see: http://www.economicpopulist.org/files/u1/ushealthmoneyvslife.jpg

triple on December 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

It’s been shown many times why life expectancy is not a useful metric for judging the quality of a health care system- because there are many factors affecting life expectancy that the medical industry has no control over. When it comes to things the medical industry can control, like cancer survival rates, we’re pretty much #1.

Despite our system’s flaws, it was working quite well for most people. For the flaws that do exist, there are ways to fix it, but a scheme like this that only drives costs up and increases the number of uninsured is not one of them.

NukeRidingCowboy on December 1, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

There isn’t anything affordable about Obamacare (aka.ACA) and as your majority claim… 63% 0f the people disapprove of it.

rich801 on December 1, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Jeffery Zients said they fixed 400 problems…Did the State Run Media members ask him how many problems were left un fixed…?

d1carter on December 1, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Your desperate ignorance of the most recent CNN “poll” on the matter is duly noted.

D+

CNN/ORC Poll. Nov. 18-20, 2013. N=843 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.5.

“As you may know, a bill that makes major changes to the country’s health care system became law in 2010. Based on what you have read or heard about that legislation, do you generally favor or generally oppose it?”

Favor: 40%

Oppose: 58%

Unsure: 2%

“As you may know, a bill that makes major changes to the country’s health care system became law in 2010. Based on what you have read or heard about that legislation, do you generally favor or generally oppose it?” If oppose: “Do you oppose that legislation because you think its approach toward health care is too liberal, or because you think it is not liberal enough?” Combined responses.

Favor: 40%

Oppose: Too Liberal 41%

Oppose: Not Liberal Enough 12%

Unsure: 2%

Thanks for playing! Your Ignorance is our best medicine.

Del Dolemonte on December 1, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Watch out Christmas, you’re about to be scapegoated by the Regime.

forest on December 1, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Christmas… Christmas… Is that the Gingerbread House holiday I’ve been hearing so much about?

Gingotts on December 1, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Will you continue to support this thing as it increases the number of uninsured?

NukeRidingCowboy on December 1, 2013 at 4:17 PM

what was working about the previous system?

We pay the most (by far) for health care, but our life expectancy is in the toilet.

see: http://www.economicpopulist.org/files/u1/ushealthmoneyvslife.jpg

triple on December 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

It’s brought down because of Blacks living in the US.

The other countries either are per-dominant white or Asian.

White life expectancy in the US is age 79.
Asian life expectancy in the US is age 87

sentinelrules on December 1, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

This has to be one of the DUMBEST things you’ve ever posted here.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html

wow such support wow

wargamer6 on December 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Link, was it unicorn.com or pixiedust.net?

hillsoftx on December 1, 2013 at 4:23 PM

ROFL the sodomite slave twins are here to disseminate OFA talking points.

Murphy9 on December 1, 2013 at 4:24 PM

We all know that the WH press release on November 30th citing “dramatic progress” in fixing the Website was written way back in October when the “tech surge” was announced. They were always going to declare victory, no matter what the outcome.

PackerBronco on December 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeorgan on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

….you need Viagra…don’t you?

KOOLAID2 on December 1, 2013 at 4:27 PM

I enrolled and my premiums went down 3000%, just like the president promised. And my unicorn already arrived. You guys must have the wrong webpage.

bitsy on December 1, 2013 at 4:28 PM

The Republican ads just write themselves.

Mord on December 1, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Murphy9 on December 1, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Looks like they ran away too. Such cowards they are.

wargamer6 on December 1, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Speaking of no-shows, where is Resist We Much?

avagreen on December 1, 2013 at 4:31 PM

what was working about the previous system?

We pay the most (by far) for health care, but our life expectancy is in the toilet.

see: http://www.economicpopulist.org/files/u1/ushealthmoneyvslife.jpg

triple on December 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Do the analysis again, but this time take out things like death by murder, death by car accident and other accidents. In other words, if you want to measure the effectiveness of health care system, only measure life expectancy at the point where medical intervention occurs (it doesn’t tell you anything about a health care system when it fails to treat a driver that died on impact.)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/11/23/the-myth-of-americans-poor-life-expectancy/

PackerBronco on December 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM

I don’t know if it was the first from the rat-eared wonder but this is from November 6th in Dallas. Link

Happy Nomad on December 1, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Thanks.
In this talk obama stated that by the end of November the website would: 1. be fixed; 2. “be working the way it is supposed to work.”
obama clearly did not accomplished that, even with all of the kings’ horses and all of the kings’ men available to him. Someday maybe we will learn how much obama spent on this tech surge.

GaltBlvnAtty on December 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM

I’m bookmarking that page, Packer.

avagreen on December 1, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Obamacare and Healthcare.gov will enter the cultural lexicon Hall of Fame as THE reason why the government should never ever be given anything to run.

NavyMustang on December 1, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Not to worry, everything is going according to the direct-to-single-payer plan. Right. On. Target.

HiJack on December 1, 2013 at 4:41 PM

“..just imagine the status of the 834 transmission and subsidy payment infrastructure. And this is after a month-long push to fix these very problems.”

..as one of the developers who maintain systems for a Southern California who maps and decodes/encodes the 834 EDI enrollment and 835 ERA (Electronic Remittance Advise) data, I can assure you this is non-trivial. On the other hand, there are a number of off-the-shelf pieces of software that handle this.

Any competent firm wishing to do business in this area and needing to build a system could find this do-able within the three-plus years available using these packages.

But then again, I said competent.

The War Planner on December 1, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Until O-care destroyed the working

system.

what was working about the previous system?

We pay the most (by far) for health care, but our life expectancy is in the toilet.

see: http://www.economicpopulist.org/files/u1/ushealthmoneyvslife.jpg

triple on December 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

The average (overall) life expectancy for the United States is only four years less than highest nations.

I recognize the use of hyperbole to makes one’s point, but “in the toilet” seems to be a bit over the top.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Every IT professional who put this garbage together should be tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail.

And anyone who thinks that the ACA is just A-OK should never be allowed to vote again. People that stupid just can’t be trusted to even be able to read the ballot.

NavyMustang on December 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM

what was working about the previous system?

We pay the most (by far) for health care, but our life expectancy is in the toilet.

see: http://www.economicpopulist.org/files/u1/ushealthmoneyvslife.jpg

triple on December 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Tell any pro-ObamaCare Democrat that socialized healthcare doesn’t work, and you are sure to receive the smug reply that “countries with a single-payer system have a higher life expectancy.” Technically, that’s true. But, as the saying goes, there are “lies, damned lies and statistics.” The lie in this particular set of stats is indeed not in the stats themselves, but in the inference you are asked to draw from them. You are told, for example, that Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom rate higher in life expectancy than the U.S. because of their public healthcare systems.

http://www.redstate.com/rstreu/2009/08/04/the-average-life-expectancy-lie/

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM

obamacarebodycount.com still available.

Murphy9 on December 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Touchdown, Kansas City!

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 4:45 PM

AND life expectancy is measured differently here than in many other countries.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Confirmation of America’s excellent heath care system

Bad News for Liberals and ObamaCare: US Life Expectancy UP!

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13915

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Libfreeordie AKA ScooptheMagicDeviant-

I expect more out of you than that tired talking point.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

That is absolute goat dung. Go peddle that mindless garbage to some of your liberal buddies.

rplat on December 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM

AND:

At Forbes, Avik Roy writes:

It’s one of the most oft-repeated justifications for socialized medicine: Americans spend more money than other developed countries on health care, but don’t live as long. If we would just hop on the European health-care bandwagon, we’d live longer and healthier lives. The only problem is it’s not true. …

If you really want to measure health outcomes, the best way to do it is at the point of medical intervention. If you have a heart attack, how long do you live in the U.S. vs. another country? If you’re diagnosed with breast cancer? … I compiled … data for the U.S., Canada, Australia, Japan, and western Europe. Guess who came out number one? …

A few years back, Robert Ohsfeldt of Texas A&M and John Schneider of the University of Iowa asked the obvious question: what happens if you remove deaths from fatal injuries from the life expectancy tables? Among the 29 members of the OECD, the U.S. vaults from 19th place to…you guessed it…first.

- See more at: http://www.patientpowernow.org/2011/12/united-states-life-expectancy-health-care/#sthash.w2Fjcilo.dpuf

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Lib, who do you think your’e addressing here, anyway? Did you get confused about which sites you were trolling?

HiJack on December 1, 2013 at 4:53 PM

libfree’s a deviant who supports men having sex with 16 year olds… FACT.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Just 36% of Likely U.S. Voters now have at least a somewhat favorable opinion of the health care law, down from the previous low of 38% a week ago. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 58% share at least a somewhat unfavorable view of the law, unchanged from the previous survey. These findings include 17% with a Very Favorable opinion of Obamacare and 46% with a Very Unfavorable one, the latter a high for the year.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 4:58 PM

forest on December 1, 2013 at 3:38 PM

I’d tap the Allison girl in that clip, even if she is a bit of a skank.

MisterElephant on December 1, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Public support for the U.S. health-care overhaul fell to its lowest level in a Kaiser Family Foundation survey after the Oct. 1 debut of government-run insurance marketplaces greeted consumers with breakdowns on websites, higher prices and potentially broken promises.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-22/public-opinion-of-obamacare-hits-low-on-website-outages.html

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 5:00 PM

That’s how it’s done! Touchdown, Kansas City!

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 5:02 PM

libfree’s a deviant who supports men having sex with 16 year olds… FACT.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 4:57 PM

He’ll like this then: http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/liberal-sweden-allows-pedophile-rapist-to-adopt-child/

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 5:03 PM

and more….

What this means is that Americans have specific problems more often than Europeans do: in particular cancer and heart disease. Both problems are strongly related to lifestyle choices NOT to health care. As Tierney explains:
…….
there are many more differences between Europe and the United States than just the health care system. Americans are more ethnically diverse. They eat different food. They are fatter. Perhaps most important, they used to be exceptionally heavy smokers. For four decades, until the mid-1980s, per-capita cigarette consumption was higher in the United States (particularly among women) than anywhere else in the developed world. Dr. Preston and other researchers have calculated that if deaths due to smoking were excluded, the United States would rise to the top half of the longevity rankings for developed countries

From Classically Liberal….

the left’s talking point pablum is not as simple as they pretend.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 5:06 PM

They actually think they are going to be able to bulls**t their way through this.

Talking points won’t do it when people are dying due to Obamacare.

forest on December 1, 2013 at 5:09 PM

The problems with his health-care law are self-inflicted, and the damage now transcends questions about the law itself. It has infected his presidency more broadly.

He is in too much trouble right now to stand back and try to fully grasp what caused the health-care legislation — this grand vision — to be introduced with so many problems that even his most loyal supporters are clearly dismayed. What could he have done to prevent them? Did he, as his conservative critics contend, put too much faith in ambitious designs and the government’s ability to carry them out?

Schadenfreude, pure!!!

Schadenfreude on December 1, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Good afternoon, my friend. I hope you’re well and that you thoroughly enjoyed the holiday.

Indeed, and this issue should be addressed. I’ve long been of the opinion that Obama was never qualified for the position he now holds. Experience in governance and experience as an executive were always lacking, and the task of acquiring those skills has eluded him.

I believe Obama and his supporters/handlers believed that Obama could be installed in the presidency and subsequently be supported by the framework of the administration so thoroughly that his lack of qualifications, experience and ability would not be an issue.

The cynical notion that an individual who lacked the qualifications, experience, and aptitude, of governance and the necessary talents of an executive could hold the office of president, chief executive of the Executive branch of the federal government, successfully and effectively, by simply floating in the framework of a hand picked administration, relying on the White House staff, the cabinet, the multitude of ‘czars’ and advisers, and the various agencies of the administration to carry such an executive has been proven completely false.

Qualifications, experience, aptitude, and ability count. Obama and his team have demonstrated the result when these qualities are absent, but more importantly, they’ve exposed a cynicism within the Democrat party in their belief that the qualification and abilities of the chief executive didn’t matter. It underscores a fundamental lack of understanding, not only of the way the federal government functions, but of the way leadership functions.

thatsafactjack on December 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Kansas City is on fire.

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Kansas City is on fire.

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Well don’t just stand there! Put it out!

forest on December 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Pssst. This is the WEB SITE. Just wait for the program!

I still love Mark Steyn: “It would have taken less time (3 years, 7 months) to defeat Japan in World War II than to implement ObamaCare (3 years, 9 months).”

Wander on December 1, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Kansas City is on fire.

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Well don’t just stand there! Put it out!

forest on December 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Denver is trying.

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Yes We Can! Maybe.

Wander on December 1, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Where’s the truth? Midas on December 1, 2013 at 3:35 PM

It’s out there.

Akzed on December 1, 2013 at 5:42 PM

If they still can’t get the front end to verify an enrollee’s identity,

That would be the job of the back end. All they’ve fixed is the ability to create an account, log in and fill out an application.

kcewa on December 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM

I dunno.

I am just not totally convinced that Obama 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 2012 just couldnt’ figger out how to do a simple website.

/Blech. Welcome to socialism.

Key West Reader on December 1, 2013 at 6:30 PM

f they still can’t get the front end to verify an enrollee’s identity,

That would be the job of the back end. All they’ve fixed is the ability to create an account, log in and fill out an application.

kcewa on December 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Designed to fail.

All Yall bicches gonna be on Medicaid and get you vag exams at the DMV. No gloves.,

/ObamaCare uh huh

Key West Reader on December 1, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Kansas City is on fire.

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Well don’t just stand there! Put it out!

forest on December 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Never mind. I think Denver is putting it out.

rich801 on December 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Key West Reader on December 1, 2013 at 6:32 PM

too funny. you have to pass the written & eye exam first before you get to drive the damn thing tho.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on December 1, 2013 at 7:06 PM

obamacarebodycount.com still available.

Murphy9 on December 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM

heh heh
it and the .net taken now.
not sure exactly what I will put there, for now will just point to my site I guess
https://www.theconservativevoices.com/index

dmacleo on December 1, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Exit question: When Dec. 23 rolls around and we can still not sign up and get the necessary insurance policy paperwork in hand, will the Obama regime still dare tax people who could not meet this Catch-22 mandate?

simkeith on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

SECOND EXIT QUESTION: When thousands of the people who TRIED to use the INSECURE healthcare.gov website have their identity stolen and start seeing thousands of bogus charges on their credit cards, accounts established in their name at places they’ve never heard of, and the deed to their house registered in someone else’s name, who will pay to straighten out the catastrophic mess caused by Democrats’ incompetence and lack of concern for the citizens of the USA??

landlines on December 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

A sarcasm, a burlesque, nothing but a joke.

VorDaj on December 1, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Meanwhile the polls show that a majority of Americans either support the ACA or think it isn’t liberal enough. I don’t think Democrats are worried about the minutae of the website details.

libfreeordie on December 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Incorrect re the first part as noted above.

Sadly, the Democrats also didn’t worry about the minutae of the ACA itself, so that it actually will increase the number of uninsured by pricing the middle class out of the insurance market.

But don’t let reality intrude on your fantasy-Obama and the Democrats don’t either, which probably has a lot to do with why the website doesn’t work.

talkingpoints on December 1, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Like they say, “You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken sh!t.”

NightmareOnKStreet on December 1, 2013 at 10:58 PM

what was working about the previous system?

We pay the most (by far) for health care, but our life expectancy is in the toilet.

see: http://www.economicpopulist.org/files/u1/ushealthmoneyvslife.jpg

triple on December 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

No, I think he has a point. This was the best healthcare system in the world, but it does seem to have deteriorated. Personally, I think it goes back to the development of the HMOs and non-MD hacks having the ability to override your doctors recommendations. Then there are the billing problems. And the quack doctors out just to make a buck. And hospital chains (McHospitals).

Is Obamacare the fix? No way. It’s a scam that has nothing to do with healthcare anyway.

But I don’t think free enterprise is the fix, either. There’s only a very few choices concerning hospitals for many of us. Of course, you can drive hours away to find better care than locally available as some people do.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 2, 2013 at 1:00 AM

A third world experience.

David Blue on December 2, 2013 at 8:51 AM

the site has to be able to enroll millions of people no later than December 23rd

Watch out Christmas, you’re about to be scapegoated by the Regime.

forest on December 1, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Obamanezer Scrooge will steal your Christmas future.

Steve Z on December 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM