NFL Week 13 open thread

posted at 12:31 pm on December 1, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

First, the good news for Hot Air readers — I won’t pick the Steelers to win today.  That’s because of the bad news, for me anyway, that they lost on Thanksgiving to the Ravens in a strange end to a tight game.  That was the only game I got wrong, although I thought the Packers would make it closer than they did against the Lions.  Anyway, I’ll skip the Pollyanna-ish boosterism today, but you won’t get any more byes this season.

Let’s combine up Week 12 results with my Thanksgiving Day picks to check my record on picks: 5-4-1, thanks to the Vikings-Packers tie last week.  That puts me at 38-32-1 for the season. I’d better pick up the pace:

  • Bears at Vikings (1 pm, Fox) - The Bears got mauled by the Rams last week, 42-21, while the Vikings managed to, er, not lose after running up a big lead on Green Bay.  Da Bears look more like the Mice of Midway against the run (32nd in the league, dead last), and they’re coming to the Metrodome to face Adrian Peterson. I can’t believe I’m doing this, but I’ll pick Minnesota to win today, 24-20.
  • Dolphins at Jets (1 pm, CBS) - Which Jets team will show up today?  The one that beat the Patriots and New Orleans, or the one that got blown out by the Bills? The Jets have played tough at home, and Miami hasn’t played tough on the road.  Jets 27-23 over the Fins.
  • Cardinals at Eagles (1 pm, Fox) - At the beginning of the season, this looked like a waste of time, but both teams have stepped up their game since.  Philly has a three-game win streak and is contending in their division.  Arizona has a four-game win streak and may be climbing into wild-card contention in the NFC. The Eagles have taken wing again under QB Nick Foles’ leadership, but I think the Cardinals score a road-win upset in a low-scoring game, 21-17.
  • Broncos at Chiefs (4:25 pm, CBS) – The Broncos lost a game they should have won on the road last week in New England, and now they have to face the 9-2 Chiefs. Denver is only 3-2 on the road, while KC is 5-1 at home.  The line has Denver up by 6, but the Broncos looked shaky last week on defense, and the Chiefs know how to score points, too.  KC wins a shootout, 41-34.
  • Giants at Barrycaders (8:30 pm, NBC) - The only real drama in this game will be the subject of Bob Costas’ weekly pontification.  I predict that it will be on the farm bill, or perhaps Pope Francis’ Evangelii Gaudium. I give the Pope a touchdown over Costas, and the Redskins a 28-20 win over the Giants.
  • Saints at Seahawks (MNF, 8:30 pm, ESPN) – This might be the game of the week, and not just because it could set home-field advantage in the NFC throughout the playoffs.  The Saints are back in championship form, but they’re not quite as good on the road. Seattle hasn’t lost yet at home, and with the homefield advantage on the line, expect the 12th Man to carry them past the Saints. Seattle 31-27, and it should be a lot of fun to watch.

 

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Giants at Barrycaders (8:30 pm, NBC) – The only real drama in this game will be the subject of Bob Costas’ weekly pontification. I predict that it will be on the farm bill, or perhaps Pope Francis’ Evangelii Gaudium. I give the Pope a touchdown over Costas, and the Redskins a 28-20 win over the Giants.

Oh yeah, the Redskins still have to play this week. :( That means Monday recriminations over who sucks more Coach Shanahan (either) or RGIII.

As to the Costas sermon, I’m going with the Pope’s paeon to socialism and how, in this holiday season for Christians and Jews we all should obey Rome and get behind looting the successful so that the deadbeats have a better life with government entitlements.

Happy Nomad on December 1, 2013 at 12:42 PM

OT, train derailment in the Bronx this morning:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/01/21702589-at-least-4-dead-more-than-60-injured-after-ny-commuter-train-derails-in-bronx?lite

JetBoy on December 1, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Those pictures are scary.

gophergirl on December 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Eh – really don’t care about the Vikings anymore. Not until they get a decent quarterback, stop getting arrested and can actually play defense.

gophergirl on December 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM


As mayor of Hazleton, Pennsylvania, I witnessed firsthand the impact illegal immigration can have on a community and its residents. While our population increased by 50 percent, our tax base remained the same.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/01/For-Immigration-Conference-with-the-Senate-Is-Not-an-Option

Wigglesworth on December 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM

BTW Ed,

I can’t help but note that you join the left in refusing to use the word Redskins. Now, you hide it behind the snark of Barrycaders but are you actually taking the position that a bunch of native Americans well-funded by gambling and cigarette sales get to demand that Redskins is an offensive team name?

Happy Nomad on December 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

So does Tomlin win the 12th man award?

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

BTW Ed,

I can’t help but note that you join the left in refusing to use the word Redskins…………..

Happy Nomad on December 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

What?

Giants at Barrycaders (8:30 pm, NBC) – The only real drama in this game will be the subject of Bob Costas’ weekly pontification. I predict that it will be on the farm bill, or perhaps Pope Francis’ Evangelii Gaudium. I give the Pope a touchdown over Costas, and the Redskins a 28-20 win over the Giants

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CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 1:03 PM

The Broncos lost a game they should have won on the road last week in New England,

From my prescient post last week here…

Manning has never had to play in brutal weather conditions like those he will face tonight in Foxboro. At game time tonight, it’s going to be 19 degrees with an arctic wind coming straight down from the North Pole at 20+ miles per hour. Right now, even though it’s a relatively balmy 28 degrees there, the windchill temperature is already just 16 degrees, and it will drop like a stone later today.

I heard ESPN’s Sal Palantonio reporting from Foxboro an hour ago, and he said today was the worst weather he’s seen in Foxboro since he joined that network in 1995. He also expressed doubt that Manning’s body would be able to function fully by later in the game. He saw Manning play in a cold game in Denver last season and said that by the 3rd quarter Manning was definitely impaired by the weather.

Del Dolemonte on November 24, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Events bore that prediction out-Manning was out-thrown over 2 to 1 by Brady, and he ended with a 70.4 QB rating. Brady ended up with a 107.4 rating.

A glance at the box score from that game shows that most of the stats for each team were nearly identical. There were a couple that stood out though-Denver ended up with 4 turnovers to New England’s 3, and the Broncos were flagged for Cheating for almost 3 times as many yards as New England. Those 2 stats did not help Denver.

BTW Brady’s success in the second half throwing into the wind was due to a couple of factors-he has bigger hands than Manning, and he also throws a much tighter spiral. In fact, Coach Belicheat remarked last week that Brady’s tight spirals reminded him of those thrown by Vinny Testaverde. Manning on the other hand was throwing wounded ducks.

Speaking of Coach, the consensus here in New England over the past week is that he wasn’t a “genius” for winning the OT coin toss and deferring, he was just aware of meteorological reality.

Today might be a trap game in Houston, but we’ll see what happens.

As for my Saints at the Seahags Monday night, it’s important to remember that Seattle will be missing a couple of their key people. RB Derrick Coleman is out, RB Percy Harvin is questionable, and CB Walter Thurmond was suspended Thursday for 4 game. The Seahags are already without CB Brandon Browner.

And New Orleans knows how to play in a noisy dome. That game could end up in OT too.

Del Dolemonte on December 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM

So does Tomlin win the 12th man award?

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

No, just a fine from the NFL!

Del Dolemonte on December 1, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Where was the open thread about yesterday’s awesome array of college football? War Eagle anyway.

Galtian on December 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM

So does Tomlin win the 12th man award?

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

no they lost anyway.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on December 1, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Where was the open thread about yesterday’s awesome array of college football? War Eagle anyway.

Galtian on December 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM

in all my years I’ve never seen a last second field goal returned 109 yds for a td!

Fred

jrsrigmvr on December 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

So does Tomlin win the 12th man award?

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM
No, just a fine from the NFL!

Del Dolemonte on December 1, 2013 at 1:14 PM

I did find it a bit humorous this morning when Jacoby Jones said, if he’d thought of it, he might have done the same thing. Imagine the shock if Auburn’s Chris Davis was tackled by Nick Saban.

Rovin on December 1, 2013 at 1:50 PM

I did find it a bit humorous this morning when Jacoby Jones said, if he’d thought of it, he might have done the same thing. Imagine the shock if Auburn’s Chris Davis was tackled by Nick Saban.

Rovin on December 1, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Call the non call on Tomlin yet another NFL officiating fail. The Ravens should have been awarded the TD.

Del,

I doubt the fines against Tomlin and the Steelers will come near 750,000.

CWchangedhisNicagain on December 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Chiefs!

davidk on December 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM

This Minnesota/Chicago game is surreal

gophergirl on December 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM

…I had my Thanksgiving!

KOOLAID2 on December 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM

This Minnesota/Chicago game is surreal

gophergirl on December 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM

To say the least.

…I had my Thanksgiving!

KOOLAID2 on December 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Yep :)

Ugly on December 1, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Wow

Ugly on December 1, 2013 at 4:38 PM

YES… yes yes yes. Vikings earned that one

Ugly on December 1, 2013 at 4:45 PM

You’re welcome Lions fans

gophergirl on December 1, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Put Payton Manning out to pasture, time for the glue factory. Give that tall man Osweiler a chance or something, he can’t do any worse than “best regular season quarterback ever” *snort* Manning. Bring back Tebow, whatever. Manning is pathetic.

Daikokuco on December 1, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Congrats to the Houston Texans. They showed up to play today despite having lost 9 games in a row.

A+

Best stat from the game, which I’m sure will win a few converts here to the Patriots’ cause.

/

Caught Cheating:

Houston 2 for 25 yards

New England 0 for 0 yards

A+

Del Dolemonte on December 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Put Payton Manning out to pasture, time for the glue factory. Give that tall man Osweiler a chance or something, he can’t do any worse than “best regular season quarterback ever” *snort* Manning. Bring back Tebow, whatever. Manning is pathetic.

Daikokuco on December 1, 2013 at 5:09 PM

What’s pathetic is that moronic comment of yours.

changer1701 on December 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Thanks, officials, for all but handing the win to the Eagles with the most inconsistent and one-sided officiating I’ve seen in quite a while. The league really needs to clarify during the offseason just what is considered “defensive holding” and “pass interference”, as Cardinals players were called for both while Eagles players were not called for often more obvious actions.

I think ALL officiating decisions should be open for review, especially judgement calls. All too often they are game deciding decisions by officials and they cannot be contested.

Mibrilane on December 1, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Del Dolemonte on December 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Houston poor sport cryin’ about losing:

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/12/01/texans-allege-fishy-adjustments-by-the-patriots/

F-

dogsoldier on December 2, 2013 at 5:10 AM

BDS Lives!

Antonio Smith, a Houston defensive lineman, had some choice words after the loss. He used “miraculous” to describe how the New England offense adjusted to the Houston defense, and said that it was “kind of fishy.” Smith also suggested that teams are either spying or scouting on the Texans. These are definitely fighting words from a player on a 2-10 team.

Del Dolemonte on December 2, 2013 at 1:27 PM