Double-digit reversal: GOP now leads on generic ballot after trailing by eight points last month

posted at 11:31 am on November 26, 2013 by Allahpundit

To see how unusual it is for the GOP to lead in this metric, scroll through RCP’s compilation of generic-ballot polling for 2013. Before this month, only once all year had Republicans topped Democrats in a poll taken by someone other than Rasmussen. Even Rasmussen (which asks this question every week) has found the Dems ahead far more often than not. Suddenly, in the last three weeks, Quinnipiac shows the parties tied and both Fox News and now CNN show the GOP with a small lead. As does Rasmussen, of course.

I wonder why.

Democrats a month ago held a 50%-42% advantage among registered voters in a generic ballot, which asked respondents to choose between a Democrat or Republican in their congressional district without identifying the candidates…

But the Democratic lead has disappeared. A new CNN/ORC poll indicates the GOP now holds a 49%-47% edge…

“It looks like the biggest shifts toward the Republicans came among white voters, higher-income Americans, and people who live in rural areas, while Democrats have gained strength in the past month among some of their natural constituencies, such as non-white voters and lower-income Americans,” said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

“If those patterns persist into 2014, it may indicate that Obamacare is popular among those who it was designed to help the most, but unpopular among the larger group of voters who are personally less concerned about health insurance and health care,” Holland said.

If you’re going to launch a new redistributionist program to benefit your core constituencies, you need to be careful to obscure where the money’s coming from. If it’s too clear who the “winners” and “losers” are, then you’ve got three big electoral problems potentially: (1) the losers might outnumber the winners; (2) even if the winners outnumber the losers, the losers will likely be more motivated to vote — an especially dangerous problem for O given that his main beneficiaries here, the poor, typically vote at a lower rate to begin with; and (3) if the losers are easily identified, the PR opportunities for opponents are limitless. As Matt Lewis said yesterday, one of the ironies of the ObamaCare rollout is that the sob stories are all on the side of the opposition right now. That’s a big part of why CNN’s numbers are what they are.

By the way, last month’s eight-point generic-ballot for the GOP was unusually steep, thanks of course to the shutdown. Typically they trail on the GB by three or four points but the backlash to the government being closed down pushed them lower. The real significance of today’s data is that the O-Care debacle has completely erased the advantage Democrats were hoping that the shutdown would give them. It’s come to this:

Race-by-race polling conducted over the last month has painted a grim picture of the difficult environment Senate Democrats are facing next year. In Louisiana, a new state survey showed Landrieu’s approval rating is now underwater; she tallied only 41 percent of the vote against her GOP opposition. In Arkansas, where advertising on the health care law began early, Sen. Mark Pryor’s approval sank to 33 percent, a drop of 18 points since last year. A new Quinnipiac survey showed Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado, who looked like a lock for reelection last month, in a dead heat against little-known GOP opponents. Even a Democratic automated poll from Public Policy Polling showed Sen. Kay Hagan of North Carolina running neck-and-neck against Republican opposition, with her job disapproval spiking over the last two months. These are the types of numbers that wave elections are made of…

“You want to prevent your race from being about Obamacare. If you enable your race to be about Obamacare, you’re making a mistake,” said Democratic pollster Mark Mellman, who’s working for Landrieu. “You need to explain what you’re trying to fix, and you better be trying to fix something. If there’s nothing you want to fix, there’s something wrong with you. At this point, it’s hard to defend the benefits, but you can say we’re not going back to the evils of the old system.”

Said another Democratic strategist of Obama’s collapsing job approval, “This is serious. This is much more serious than I hear some Democrats saying publicly. This is not a temporary drop.” Indeed: Not only is it unusual for a president’s approval rating to rebound significantly deep into his second term, it’d be especially unusual for it to happen to O given all the logistical challenges that ObamaCare faces next year. The loser/winner dynamic I described above will only get worse once small businesses start dumping employees onto the exchanges. Which is why, I think, you’re seeing Senate Democrats begin to propose fixes just six weeks in: They know it’ll get worse. If you want to be reelected, the time to start distancing yourself from O-Care is yesterday.

One other interesting wrinkle to all this. The CNN data inspired me to look at three metrics on RCP — Obama’s job approval, public support for ObamaCare, and of course the generic ballot. Here’s what Obama’s approval rating looks like since October 1st. He remains more or less flat throughout October, no doubt helped by public anger towards the GOP over the shutdown, but then he starts a slow, steady decline in November:

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Oddly, those trend lines don’t really match what happened to ObamaCare itself. Support for the law remains more or less constant into November and then, around November 10th, the lines start to diverge:

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The generic ballot looks more like the ObamaCare trends than O’s job approval. You see a big Democratic lead in the wake of the shutdown and then the bottom drops out on — ta da — November 10th:

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Question: What’s going on with November 10th? Is that just some delayed reaction to Obama’s cratering approval rating or did something specific happen that I’m forgetting?

While you mull that, here’s Kay Hagan concluding that this is all the insurance companies’ fault or something.


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But Lucy still holds the football for the Charlie Brown GOP.

SteveInRTP on November 26, 2013 at 11:34 AM

time to roll out the war on woman meme.

phatfawzi on November 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Plenty of time to screw it up.

McConnell, Boehner and Rove are on it.

mankai on November 26, 2013 at 11:36 AM

I guess people really did need to see it burn.

smoothsailing on November 26, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Just a snapshot…. no worries…. this will all blow over once the website is fixed
-dems talking points

cmsinaz on November 26, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Do you want to win, GOP?

Then STFU ablut that amnesty sh** and turn out the base.

M240H on November 26, 2013 at 11:38 AM

“ablut” is the new “about” …

M240H on November 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Let’s not talk about polls this am
-mika

cmsinaz on November 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Flubberneck McConnell and Drunk John will be on the case with fresh GOP answers to take advantage of this new opportunity.,….(sigh)

rickyricardo on November 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM

We’re going to run on obamacare and win!
-dws

cmsinaz on November 26, 2013 at 11:41 AM

You must go to DRUDGE right now and check out the Barry Chamberlain photoshop!

M240H on November 26, 2013 at 11:42 AM

The reason the trend lines on the three metrics don’t show the exact same story is that presidential job approval is polled much more often (daily by some pollsters), so the RCP average is recalculated almost daily.

The RCP average for Obama”care” approval and the generic ballot are updated much more infrequently because those items aren’t polled as often.

steebo77 on November 26, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Fox just reported this – be very careful in hickworld – obama is running subtle ads all over the red states, in order to fool the rubes. He wants you to overthrow your governments and go with obama’care’ and all other socialist pipe-dreams.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Live by the media spasm; die by the media spasm.

Ben Hur on November 26, 2013 at 11:45 AM

You must go to DRUDGE right now and check out the Barry Chamberlain photoshop!

M240H on November 26, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Plus, he made the oaf look like a child of Lenin/Mussolini sex.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Not only is it unusual for a president’s approval rating to rebound significantly deep into his second term, it’d be especially unusual for it to happen to O given all the logistical challenges that ObamaCare faces next year.

True AP, but when was the last time a minority party pushed through transformational legislation(immigration reform in this case) when a lame duck President had a 39% approval rating in his 2nd term? Even if it was the right policy(which it is not) it is the height of stupidity politically.

Wigglesworth on November 26, 2013 at 11:47 AM

“If those patterns persist into 2014, it may indicate that Obamacare is popular among those who it was designed to help the most…

 
Gosh, you mean people like not having to give up their wants to pay for their needs?

rogerb on November 26, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Go see Drudge.

The Chamberlainian obama looks like the result of sex btw. Lenin and Mussolini.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 11:48 AM

but you can say we’re not going back to the evils of the old system.”

The one that had 85% satisfaction rate amongst its consumers–yeah, run with it, PLEASE.

hillsoftx on November 26, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Duh on me – wanted to post the Drudge note to the other thread…oh, well…

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 11:50 AM

What good is oaf’s trip to Hollywood to the middle/poor classes?

He hates you, dummies.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Count on the Rs to scrooom it up.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Gop is going to cause another shutdown in Jan and we’ll be OK then
(Paraphrase some lib poster on politico)

cmsinaz on November 26, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Suddenly, in the last three weeks, Quinnipiac shows the parties tied and both Fox News and now CNN show the GOP with a small lead. As does Rasmussen, of course.

I wonder why.
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Me thinks, its the Dictorial Power Grabby FiliBusty,
and the Cat0strophic HealthScare Push Backy!!
(sarc)

canopfor on November 26, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Good God, what’s taken so long for people to catch on to this guy? People sure are dumb.

Kat_man on November 26, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Has the USA ever been a bigger joke?

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 11:53 AM

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canopfor on November 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM

I hope your coffins are comfortable.

Dave Rywall on October 3, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Chuck Schick on November 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Try not to pop a vein in your forehead when you see this

/Also, try not to puke when you have to sit through the metrosexual ad at the beginning.

Key West Reader on November 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM

OT

“Unreal: Obama Pulls US Embassy To Vatican, Downgrades Relationship…

They’re claiming it is on “security” grounds. Because there are so many threats in Italy? Unlike Benghazi, where they did absolutely nothing, despite specific credible threats and two prior attacks?

So Obama is negotiating and providing weapons to Islamic terrorists, and turning his back on Israel and the Vatican…”

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/11/26/obama-pulls-us-embassy-to-vatican-downgrades-relationship/

Great pic at weasel zippers btw…

Why does this matter?

“Yesterday we spoke with former Vatican Ambassador James Nicholson. He wanted us to tell CV readers:

“It’s another manifestation of the antipathy of this administration both to Catholics and to the Vatican – and to Christians in the Middle East. This is a key post for intermediation in so many sovereignties but particularly in the Middle East. This is anything but a good time to diminish the stature of this post. To diminish the stature of this post is to diminish its influence.

“The State Department has for a long time wanted to do this. It came up when I was an ambassador. I explained the folly of this and it went away. But now they seem determined to do this. The perception is [with this action] that the United States is showing a lack of appreciation for the relevance of its diplomatic partner in the Vatican.”

Diplomatic relations between the United States and the Holy See suffered for generations because of rampant anti-Catholicism in our country. It took until 1984, twenty-four years after the election of a Catholic president, for President Ronald Reagan to officially create the first United States Ambassador to the Holy See.

President Reagan would quickly see the importance of the Holy See in international affairs. Reagan and Blessed Pope John Paul II formed a partnership that would lead to the downfall of Communism in Eastern Europe.

And let’s not forget that the Pope regularly communicates with bishops from every country on the planet, and as a result is said to have the greatest foreign intelligence of any world leader. If anything, the United States should be working to grow its relationship with the Vatican — not insult us!…

Why the snub?

Simple: anti-family groups hate the Vatican. On the international stage, the Vatican is a fierce proponent of religious freedom, the dignity of all human life, and the traditional family. And the Holy See has vigorously opposed the pro-abortion imperialism pushed by Planned Parenthood and others for decades.

These radical pro-abortion groups have responded by launching a campaign called “See Change” calling for the removal of the Holy See as a member of the United Nations. It’s no secret they want the Vatican’s role in the world diminished, discredited, and ultimately disregarded.

But sadly it seems the Obama administration is now doing their bidding, albeit quietly and carefully under the guise of a ‘security review.’

Our Ambassador to the Vatican will remain in Rome for now. But he will be moved to what amounts to an annex of our Italian embassy.

We’re not stupid.

We get the message….”

http://www.catholicvote.org/obama-snubs-vatican-with-embassy-downgrade/

workingclass artist on November 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Not to miss this point – the moochers already vote for the Ds.

The losers from obama’care’ are not only alert, they are in the majority producers and many of them are indies.

To the Nov 10 question from AP – that’s when oaf was obfuscating about the obfuscation and the devastating non-promptered presser took place, I think.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 12:06 PM

I hope your coffins are comfortable.

Dave Rywall on October 3, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Chuck Schick on November 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Bye Dave, you nincompoop elitist Canadian.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I hope Hagen, Landriue, Pryor, and all the ins. companies go directly to Hell, never to be heard from again.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 12:08 PM

white voters, higher-income Americans, and people who live in rural areas

the providers?

Obamacare is popular among those who it was designed to help the most

teat-suckers?

sounds right to me.

RedInMD on November 26, 2013 at 12:08 PM

You must go to DRUDGE right now and check out the Barry Chamberlain photoshop!

M240H on November 26, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Aren’t black and white photographs both divisive and racist?

BL@KBIRD on November 26, 2013 at 12:09 PM

I hope your coffins are comfortable.

Dave Rywall on October 3, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Dave Rywall:

************* Political Coffins **************************??

Very Cool,….ya nut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on November 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM

AP, to your Nov. 10 question – the presser and obama’s ‘fix’ caused the reversal.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM

I hope your coffins are comfortable.

Dave Rywall on October 3, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Chuck Schick on November 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Chuck Schick:

Lol, ya know that’ll teach me to go back over da comments:)

canopfor on November 26, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Has the USA ever been a bigger joke?

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 11:53 AM

New Tactics…Because it’s the civil rights issue or something…

“A crowd of more than 100 people pelted Border Patrol agents with rocks and bottles as they tried to cross into the U.S. illegally, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

The incident happened Sunday in the Tijuana River channel, near the San Ysidro Port of Entry.

According to CBP, a Border Patrol agent ordered the Mexican nationals to stop, but they continued walking into the U.S.

Officials said the agent fired a PepperBall Launcher, but it did not deter the crowd.

“They had their phones out so this group was out to spark an incident. That’s what they wanted to do, “ Border Patrol Union representative Gabriel Pacheco said.

Had cooler heads not prevailed it could have ended much worse, he said.

Even with reinforcements, agents were outnumbered, dodging threats, rocks and bottles.

More agents responded as the crowd became “unruly,” even hitting one agent in the head with a full water bottle, officials said.

According to CBP, the agents used “intermediate use-of-force” devices, and the group retreated back to the Mexican side of the border…”

Source: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Unruly-Crowd-Attacks-Border-Patrol-Agents-233397971.html#ixzz2llxnsqwe

workingclass artist on November 26, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Funny personal Obama story from this morning:

Obama swiped the benchpress from my buddy at the Beverly Hilton gym. Obama always stays there when he’s in LA. My buddy’s a huge Republican and actually lost his health insurance a few weeks ago. Unfortunately he pussed out and didn’t let Obama have it. How often are you in private a few feet away from the President?

Anyway, he said Obama look absolutely awful and had zero energy. All this failure must be taking its toll.

Chuck Schick on November 26, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Very Cool,….ya nut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on November 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM

He’s been dead to HA since.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM

/Also, try not to puke when you have to sit through the metrosexual ad at the beginning.Key West Reader on November 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Saw that last year or whenever. More than ever this needs to go viral. Beck show it to the family at thanksgiving then discuss. Lol.

AH_C on November 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM

The Republicans will respond with another “rape” comment distraction, pushing amnesty, waving the abortion bloody shirt, or another “government shutdown ” jag.

Give it a month and the GOP will fumble in the red zone.

rickyricardo on November 26, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Anyway, he said Obama look absolutely awful and had zero energy. All this failure must be taking its toll.

Chuck Schick on November 26, 2013 at 12:15 PM

obama is clinically mentally and physically sick. It’s the story the media will report last. He’s been sick mentally for a long time…the physical is new.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Question: What’s going on with November 10th?

Was that right after Obama tried the “what we said was you can keep your plan if it hasn’t changed since the law passed” whopper?

Everyone knew that was just a flat-out, blatant lie and at that point it was only making the problem worse. Alot worse.

lynncgb on November 26, 2013 at 12:21 PM

I’m not interested in another fake RINO shutdown designed to place the blame on the TEA Party. There are way too many squishes that won’t hold out for concessions on a government shutdown and Boehner knows it because he is one of them.

Wigglesworth on November 26, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Too late for Virginia. We b screwed.

faol on November 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Very Cool,….ya nut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on November 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM

He’s been dead to HA since.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Schadenfreude:Agree, a vile LeftThinkingCanuk!:)

canopfor on November 26, 2013 at 12:25 PM

AP, to your Nov. 10 question – the presser and obama’s ‘fix’ caused the reversal.

whew! Thanks Shad, all I could come up with was Chris Christie did the full Sunday talk show circuit.

DanMan on November 26, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Kay Hagan is working on that southerny Southern accent… and she’ll be pretending to be to the right of Jesse Helms by summer.

mankai on November 26, 2013 at 12:29 PM

If this is the case, it’s not going to help Obama or the Congressional Democrats any….

Senator Thune reports that Barack Obama has unilaterally decided to waive the Obamacare reinsurance tax on unions….

On page 70 of regulations the administration published on Monday, Thune’s office noted that a rule would exempt Taft-Hartley union healthcare plans from from the Obamacare reinsurance tax. Thune’s office noted in the release, provided to Breitbart News, that the exemption would most likely end up forcing others who still need to pay the tax to pay more. That includes companies, charities, and faith-based organizations.

“By publishing this proposed rule, the Obama administration moves closer to ensuring that its political allies will receive special treatment under the law,” Thune said upon the discovery. “Despite endorsing ObamaCare and working fervently to get it passed, unions are now experiencing the ugly reality of this law, and they want out. This exemption is crony capitalism at its worst. I will continue to push for passage of my Union Tax Fairness Act, which would ensure that unions are not treated as if they are above the law.”

The Obamacare reinsurance tax is slated to take effect in 2014 and, according to Thune’s office, “requires all self-insured plans to pay a tax for each person covered under a health plan.”

Of course, the decision was done as quietly as possible – contained within regulations published by the Administration and without any public announcement. In other words, SOP for the ‘most open and transparent Administration ever’.

Higher premiums and favored rulings for Administration special interests will really help the Democrat cause in 2014.

The only thing this Administration is concerned with at this point is its agenda of ‘fundamental change’ by any means it can. They apparently don’t believe that elections have consequences unless they are the one’s who win said election….and power, if not abused, is power wasted.

Athos on November 26, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Key point: remember who the losers are in Obamacare. They’re freelancers and single employee consultants. You know, the people who write articles and opinion pieces for media outlets.

When the losers are the folks with the microphones, they make sure you hear them.

nerdbert on November 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Question: What’s going on with November 10th?

10 November 1775 Tun’s Tavern, Philadelphia- 238 years worth of United States Marine Corps
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.
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Coincidence? I think not.

M240H on November 26, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Calling all Poll trolls….calling all Poll trolls…

Yeah, that would be you DBear, and
LostmyMother in a Dumpster Fire.

ToddPA on November 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Question: What’s going on with November 10th? Is that just some delayed reaction to Obama’s cratering approval rating or did something specific happen that I’m forgetting?

Allah – I’ve explained this for years, and it’s always been correct.

Every event takes two weeks for the country to digest.

November 10 is the absorbed reaction to November 1st.

It goes in stages. Hardcore first, moderates second, low-fi voters last.

You have no idea how many middle-class/blue collar working black friends I have that are dreading wtf’s going to happen to their healthcare.

When “navigators” come to your work and spell out your options, plus the 0Care news, you quickly figure out what’s coming.

budfox on November 26, 2013 at 12:46 PM

LostmyMother in a Dumpster Fire.

ToddPA on November 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM

You crack me up!

Key West Reader on November 26, 2013 at 12:53 PM

LostmyMother in a Dumpster Fire.

ToddPA on November 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM

You crack me up!

Key West Reader on November 26, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Thanks,

Yup, the trolls are as hard to find on this site now as
finding a Virgin in a maternity ward….

ToddPA on November 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Maybe the trolls can enlighten us some (where have they been all these weeks?) because I’m having a hard time seeing the downside of these poll results.

MisterElephant on November 26, 2013 at 1:11 PM

But…the shutdown destroyed the party forever I thought.

xblade on November 26, 2013 at 1:34 PM

I believe the biggest factor to the drop is the fact that the Democrats knew what was going to happen and lied about it. The trust is gone, but I’m skeptical that Dems will vote for Republicans in the midterms, although they will probably just stay home.

lea on November 26, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Rove gave Norquist $26 Million last year

workingclass artist on November 26, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Everything that was predicted about the direction Obama would take in his second term is coming true.

He is intent on turning the US into a socialist nation by any means necessary before he leaves office.

BobMbx on November 26, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Don’t worry, Democrats. The Republicans like Rubio and Boehner will bail you out and let you delay the enactment of Obamacare until after the mid-term election.

Levinite on November 26, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Question: What’s going on with November 10th? Is that just some delayed reaction to Obama’s cratering approval rating or did something specific happen that I’m forgetting?

Good detective work.

Sometimes a hard turn is polls does not mean reality. Sometimes it means they have to get the curve nearer to some more honest report coming out, before everyone notices their own reporting is bogus

300 million citizens, one thousand people selected in the average poll. We have never been so far from reality.

Referendums are thrown out, but polls of a thousand people selected personally by the pollsters are reported as reality

entagor on November 26, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Double-digit reversal: GOP now leads on generic ballot after trailing by eight points last month

Like the Phoenix arising from the ashes, generic republican is back.

Maybe this time success will follow.

rukiddingme on November 26, 2013 at 3:56 PM

In the RCP average, the only one that has the Democrats in front is … Rasmussen.

LOL!

Good Lt on November 26, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Expect a plethora of made-up polls to counter these.

StubbleSpark on November 26, 2013 at 4:34 PM

In the RCP average, the only one that has the Democrats in front is … Rasmussen.

LOL!

Good Lt on November 26, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Rasmussen covering his butt just to be on the safe side?

Othniel on November 26, 2013 at 5:49 PM

On the Nov 10th question my notes show me two important dates (though I wouldn’t guarantee the dates themselves might not be off by 1 or 2 in my notes)

Nov 4 I noted the Lisa Myers (sp) report that Obama KNEW that you couldn’t keep your plan. period. came out. All hell broke loose after that report. It was the one media story that broke the fever.

Nov 8 Obama gave his ‘apology’.

MaggiePoo on November 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM

On the Nov 10th question my notes show me two important dates (though I wouldn’t guarantee the dates themselves might not be off by 1 or 2 in my notes)

Nov 4 I noted the Lisa Myers (sp) report that Obama KNEW that you couldn’t keep your plan. period. came out. All hell broke loose after that report. It was the one media story that broke the fever.

Nov 8 Obama gave his ‘apology’.

MaggiePoo on November 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM

Could be just that by the 10th, the general public finally figured out that they’d been suckered.

Othniel on November 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM