Video: Karzai double-crosses US on pact?

posted at 2:01 pm on November 25, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The Obama administration has more trouble with its diplomacy than just regarding Iran. Last week, the White House let it be known that they had all but concluded a pact with Afghanistan to keep as many as 15,000 troops, mostly American, in place until 2024, a decade longer than Barack Obama promised when he launched his own surge strategy in late 2009. Almost immediately after going out on that political limb, Hamid Karzai began to saw it off, insisting that the issue had to be brought before tribal elders and that Karzai himself wouldn’t sign it either way, a direct rebuke to the Obama administration.  Karzai insists that the next elected president of Afghanistan should make that decision himself, throwing a wrench into the gears of Pentagon planning and putting the entire agreement at risk.  NBC now reports that even with the Loya Jirga endorsing the pact, Karzai is still refusing to cooperate, demanding more concessions from the White House:

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ENGEL: We just finished a battlefield circulation with commander of US troops in this part of eastern Afghanistan. He showed us how Afghan troops are now leading the fight and that he used to have about 50 outposts in this area and now American troops only hold about 13 bases, including this one. This is one of the so-called enduring bases, bases that could stay on in this country beyond 2014 if the government in Kabul and Washington approve a joint security deal that could see thousands of American troops staying in this country for years to come. Over the weekend, a group of tribal elders in Kabul decided they want this deal. They want US troops to stay because it’s good for security. It helps the Afghan security forces fight al-Qaeda and fight the Taliban, but then Afghanistan’s president said not yet. He won’t sign the deal until the United States shows more signs of good faith and does more, in his words, to bring security to this country. For now it seems this joint security deal and the future of American troops in this country is on hold.

Not coincidentally, National Security Adviser Susan Rice has landed in Afghanistan, ostensibly to visit the troops but obviously as a fixer:

National Security Advisor Susan Rice has landed in Afghanistan amid an escalating showdown over America’s role after 12 years of war, the White House announced Monday.

The White House billed Rice’s first trip in her new role as a long-planned visit to thank U.S. troops and civilians around the Thanksgiving holiday. It comes at a crucial moment for U.S.-Afghan relations, however, with President Hamid Karzai balking at a deal to keep U.S. troops in the country past 2014.

An assembly of 3,000 tribal leaders and political leaders signed off on the pact Sunday, but Karzai rejected their recommendation to quickly put the deal in place. Instead, he wants to wait until after presidential elections in April and is demanding that American troops be prohibited from entering Afghan homes under any circumstance, a non-starter for the Obama administration.

Karzai might end up cutting off his own head to spite his face.  Afghan security forces aren’t up to the task of fending off the Taliban, and Karzai is going to be high up on their target list.  An abrupt pullout of American forces next year will produce a much more dramatic decline in Afghanistan than a similar pullout did in Iraq in 2011.  Even with that danger, Karzai appears a lot more interested in embarrassing the Obama administration than in proceeding with a deal his government negotiated with the US in the first place.


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No one believes that Obama will deal fairly, so why should they deal fairly with him?

Steven Den Beste on November 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM

We need to get out of that stinking hole and the only thing Karzai should say is “Thank You”. We spilled the blood of our youth for that rancid sewer and Obama needs to stop pandering to the worthless bastards.

rplat on November 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Susan Rice hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

although she is a pretty good representative for Obama when you think about it.

Kirkian on November 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Even with that danger, Karzai appears a lot more interested in embarrassing the Obama administration than in proceeding with a deal his government negotiated with the US in the first place.

Obama is still cleaning up after Bush’s messes after all these years…

*sigh*

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM

In Afghanistan you can’t buy loyalty, you only rent it.

myiq2xu on November 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Karzai might end up cutting off his own head to spite his face.

Without the US presence there it’s not Karzai who will be doing the cutting of heads. His head remains attached to his shoulders now only because of the presence of US/NATO forces and their sacrifices for so many years.

Blaise on November 25, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Just pack up and leave, Karzai will be dead in a week or two.

major dad on November 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Karzai appears a lot more interested in embarrassing the Obama administration than in proceeding with a deal his government negotiated with the US in the first place.

I have no problem with that. We shouldn’t even be contemplating keeping American troops engaged in the region anyway. The only morally justifiable reason for doing so is if they could make a substantive difference in the region and if there were an administration that won’t abandon the troops or betray their trust. Neither condition has been met.

Happy Nomad on November 25, 2013 at 2:15 PM

It is sad that people can be foolish enough after all this time to believe anything any Muslim says. If you deal with Islam as an equal in good faith bargaining, you deserve your fate.

BL@KBIRD on November 25, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Susan Rice?

How about Luca Brasi.

SwampYankee on November 25, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Forget Afghanistan, we don’t need them. They would find out rather quickly after we leave how bad they need us.

We should only stay as long as we are needed. It is clear they think they don’t need us.

john1schn on November 25, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Afghanistan ‘plans to reintroduce public stoning as punishment for adultery’

The draft — devised by a working group led by the justice ministry, parts of which have been obtained by The Telegraph — states that unmarried adulterers should be subject to 100 lashes. If they are married, the punishment is stoning in a public place.

And we all know how the Taliban defines “adultery”!

INC on November 25, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Every single leader in the Middle and Far East see Obama as weak and will push to get more stuff from him, and they will get it. Obama is a joke now pretty much world wide and we as Americans will suffer for decades to come from his stupidity.

Johnnyreb on November 25, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Aw, poor partisan. Blees his idiot heart. So many chickens coming home to roost and all he has is “blame Bush”.

cozmo on November 25, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Right after the September 11 attack, and the almost immediate discovery of who the perpetrators were, I said that if we didn’t use nuclear weapons on those animals to teach them fear that we would regret it.
Instead we build schools and get a bunch of our best killed and maimed, and now Ogabe wants to negotiate our surrender.

fourbten on November 25, 2013 at 2:25 PM

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Exactly when does your guy get to be responsible for his own messes? He could have pull completely out of Afghanistan anytime in the last five years. Isn’t that what you guys wanted? Your argument doesn’t even rise to the level of weak.

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Headlines are loading.

davidk on November 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Afghanistan ‘plans to reintroduce public stoning as punishment for adultery’

The draft — devised by a working group led by the justice ministry, parts of which have been obtained by The Telegraph — states that unmarried adulterers should be subject to 100 lashes. If they are married, the punishment is stoning in a public place.

And we all know how the Taliban defines “adultery”!

INC on November 25, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Yep was going to post this myself..though stoning has continued to happened for awhile, even after the taliban was removed from power..barbarians..savages..sick evil people

sadsushi on November 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Let him rant. It’s the only arrow in his quiver.

He is the only one who still believes his own lies.

cozmo on November 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Still clinging to that BSD after all these years?

GWB on November 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM

The primary mistake is viewing Afghanistan as a country. It is that part of the world which is not Iran and is not Pakistan. It is populated with 14th century savages with loyalties only to the local warlords. Kabul is far off place to the majority living there.

There is nothing to be gained by our being there.

FOWG1 on November 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Video guy to be re-incarcerated 3, 2, 1

Not even Karzai respects obama, his bro.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Who the hell is dumb enough to be surprised at a guy who double-crossed his own brother would double-cross a punk like 0bama?

LegendHasIt on November 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM

*BDS

GWB on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Exactly when does your guy get to be responsible for his own messes? He could have pull completely out of Afghanistan anytime in the last five years. Isn’t that what you guys wanted? Your argument doesn’t even rise to the level of weak.

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2013 at 2:26 PM

no, its not that simple…he can’t pull out because there are a lot of factors and repercussions to consider

my point is that bush got us in there, and Obama not has to clean it up

the healthcare debacle, for example, is completely on Obama..and he’s owned up to it

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Stoning is still legal in that rat-hole.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Obama dissimulated when Russia invaded Georgia in 2008/9.
He disappeared when the Iranian Green Revolution occurred in 2009.
He sputtered when Russia accepted Snowden.
He erased his red line over Syrian chemical weapons after hemming and hawing while 100,000 Syrians died.

Now it is a free for all.

China is swelling its maritime borders onto the sandy beaches of the Philippines and Vietnam, and the rocky shores of Japan.
Russia sets the table for Syrian pacts and Obama happily sits.
Iran becomes the most recent beneficiary of the Obama’s administration effort to deflect any and everything away from Obamacare.

Why the heck shouldn’t Karzai flaunt his posterior in Obama’s face? The rest of the world surely is.

parke on November 25, 2013 at 2:31 PM

and Obama not has to clean it up

Same as he messed up Iraq, obama that is.

the healthcare debacle, for example, is completely on Obama..and he’s owned up to it

nonpartisanhack on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Goebbels laughs at you.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, Smart Power (TM).

parke on November 25, 2013 at 2:32 PM

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM

In 2008 the Boy Wonder was telling us that Iraq was a Bush mistake and the real action is in Afghanistan,,,,no?

FOWG1 on November 25, 2013 at 2:32 PM

FOWG1 on November 25, 2013 at 2:32 PM

are you white? you prob shouldn’t refer to our black President as ‘boy’…unless you’re, ya know…a bigot

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

my point is that bush got us in there, and Obama not has to clean it …
nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

And the punk you idolize campaigned on how Afghanistan was the ‘good war’.

Reconcile that, sopartisan.

LegendHasIt on November 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

the healthcare debacle, for example, is completely on Obama..and he’s owned up to it

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Seriously? When? And one lame A$$ sort of it wasn’t my fault cause’ I just learned about it in the newspaper apology does not count towards “owning up to it”.

Johnnyreb on November 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Do we know Karzai isn’t playing both sides?

BKeyser on November 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM

the healthcare debacle, for example, is completely on Obama..and he’s owned up to it

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Oh really?

*eyeroll*

Bitter Clinger on November 25, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Now the partisan idiot is offering himself up to shield his messiah.

cozmo on November 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Also, Obama farmed the SOFA agreement with Iraq resulting in an early (premature?) ejection from that country. (And look how well that is turning out for Iraq after all our sacrifices.)

parke on November 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Afghanistan is “obama’s war” – he said so all along.

Karzai might end up cutting off his own head to spite his face.

Heh, literally. PC will kill all, the same way. I hope the ones who promote it go first.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM

are you white? you prob shouldn’t refer to our black President as ‘boy’…unless you’re, ya know…a bigot

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Spoken like a true race-baiting troll.

Bitter Clinger on November 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Still clinging to that BSD after all these years?

GWB on November 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Sad, isn’t it. Especially given that in 2008, the lazy stupid one made the promise to “finish the fight against al Qaida and the Taliban” He never EVER really meant it. He dithered for months over a strategy which resulted in announcing a surge during a West Point speech that followed one of the most disgusting uses of war dead at Dover AFB I have ever seen. Over 75% of all casualties in Afghanistan are Obama’s doing. Yet the left somehow still blames Bush.

Happy Nomad on November 25, 2013 at 2:39 PM

partisanhack, it ain’t Beluga caviar. May you suffocate from what you consume in there.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Bitter Clinger on November 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM

What does the boy care?

He gets more 0bamaminutes every time he gets quoted.

cozmo on November 25, 2013 at 2:39 PM

But tell us again about the founding fathers starting the income tax. That was fun.

blink on November 25, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Harvard dummy, like obama, unlike GWB.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 2:40 PM

are you white? you prob shouldn’t refer to our black President as ‘boy’…unless you’re, ya know…a bigot

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

“You’re doing a heck of a job, brownie” — GWB, presciently defining obama’s legacy.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM

are you white? you prob shouldn’t refer to our half black President as ‘boy’…unless you’re, ya know…a bigot

nonpartisanhack on November 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

You are a racist.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Hey let’s not beat up too bad on the Troll. We haven’t seen one in months…..LOL

Johnnyreb on November 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Johnnyreb on November 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM

This one only showed up out of desperation.

cozmo on November 25, 2013 at 2:43 PM

are you white? you prob shouldn’t refer to our black President as ‘boy’…unless you’re, ya know…a bigot

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Given the fact that the lazy stupid shiftless wonder is as mature as a emotionally stunted 13-year-old, boy should be seen as a compliment. Crybaby is closer to the truth.

You’d prefer the term Macaca maybe?

Happy Nomad on November 25, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Plus, for the record, obama is not a “boy”, he is a child.

Boys are almost grown up and accountable.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 2:44 PM

This one only showed up out of desperation.

cozmo on November 25, 2013 at 2:43 PM

But not on the Obamacare thread.

Happy Nomad on November 25, 2013 at 2:45 PM

the healthcare debacle, for example, is completely on Obama..and he’s owned up to it

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Seriously? When? And one lame A$$ sort of it wasn’t my fault cause’ I just learned about it in the newspaper apology does not count towards “owning up to it”.

Johnnyreb on November 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM

You are forgetting the “I’m sorry if Obamacare has made it difficult for those who may have lost their plans that they liked” non-apology apology, but I didn’t lie about if you liked your plan … The President so far has “owned up” to admitting he met only once a month with the Obamacare implementation team, that he didn’t ask many questions before October 1 (but will ask a lot more now)and by powers of deduction, has spent more time playing golf than working on his signature law.

Yeah, that makes everything hunky dory.

parke on November 25, 2013 at 2:45 PM

the healthcare debacle, for example, is completely on Obama..and he’s owned up to it

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Oh please, he could have gotten out of Afghanistan just as easily as he got out of Iraq. And as for owning up to Obamacare, big hairy deal, he’s not doing anything to fix it other than lessen the liability on Democrats next election day and he’s doing a pretty crappy job of that.

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Got to keep those poppy fields safe…
Afghanistan opium poppy cultivation at record high

albill on November 25, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Time to skeedaddle outta there

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Remember the Joseph Heller book, “Catch 22″?
I am beginning to think that Obama’s Afganhistan is the sequel…

albill on November 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM

my point is that bush got us in there

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

S.J.Res. 23 (107th): Authorization for Use of Military Force
A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.

Senate Vote on Passage Sep 14, 2001 10:44 a.m.
Joint Resolution Passed 98/0

Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Allen (R-VA), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Breaux (D-LA), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Campbell (R-CO), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Carnahan (D-MO), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Cleland (D-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corzine (D-NJ), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Not Voting
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
Dayton (D-MN), Yea
DeWine (R-OH), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Edwards (D-NC), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Fitzgerald (R-IL), Yea
Frist (R-TN), Yea
Graham (D-FL), Yea
Gramm (R-TX), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Helms (R-NC), Not Voting
Hollings (D-SC), Yea
Hutchinson (R-AR), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Jeffords (I-VT), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Miller (D-GA), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Nickles (R-OK), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Santorum (R-PA), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-NH), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Thomas (R-WY), Yea
Thompson (R-TN), Yea
Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
Torricelli (D-NJ), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wellstone (D-MN), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea

weaselyone on November 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Susan Rice????? Just one of the gang of incompetents.

BetseyRoss on November 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2013 at 2:45PM

Obama’s end game on this is single payer, socialized medicine. He’ll fall on his “sword” now w/ bad press to achieve his goal in the end

Static21 on November 25, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Obama is still cleaning up after Bush’s messes after all these years…

*sigh*

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM

This has been King Dogshanks (h/t Bishop) since Jan 21 2009. He applied for the job and got it so it is all his. Besides more Americans have died in Afghanistan since his ascencion to the throne than all of GWB time.
You ignorant shitstick

Rio Linda Refugee on November 25, 2013 at 2:49 PM

albill on November 25, 2013 at 2:46 PM

With the increased number of addicts in China and muslim countries, they need to produce more.

cozmo on November 25, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Just pack up and leave, Karzai will be dead in a week or two.

He’ll probably be on the next-to-last plane out, moving to wherever his money is.

Another Drew on November 25, 2013 at 2:50 PM

The White House billed Rice’s first trip in her new role as a long-planned visit to thank U.S. troops and civilians around the Thanksgiving holiday.

Imagine the excitement & giddiness our servicemen & women must feel to have that talking-points robot grace them with her presence! Her thank-you will make it all worthwhile. Good thing Obummer has to stay and personally fix the health care mess (he has “owned up to it”, I hear!) — a visit from him would have sent the troops over the moon!

KS Rex on November 25, 2013 at 2:51 PM

This reads like a sad parody of Spy Vs. Spy. Obama is as invested in American defeat in Afghanistan as the Taliban is, and Ngo Dinh Di…er…Karzai thinks political infighting is enough to keep his head.

Steve Eggleston on November 25, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Static21 on November 25, 2013 at 2:49 PM

While not saying you are wrong, isn’t it going to be a stretch to ask the American people to sign on to government run healthcare after spending three years proving that the government couldn’t find its ass with both hands? Citizens need to take a look at how they handled past healthcare improvements. And these were past with support from both sides. Very tea partyish.

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM

*makes sad face* Man, I got in early, then I missed out on the rest of the partisan soap party.

GWB on November 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM

my point is that bush got us in there, and Obama not has to clean it up

retardisan

I’m pretty sure Al Queda and Osama Bin Laden got us in there. Obama tripled down and got us even more in there. It’s his own mess he has to clean up.

are you white? you prob shouldn’t refer to our black President as ‘boy’…unless you’re, ya know…a bigot

retardisan

Are you over 12? And seeing as how the first thing that comes to your mind when you see the word “boy” is black people, I’m pretty sure that makes you the…ya know…bigot.

xblade on November 25, 2013 at 3:01 PM

This reads like a sad parody of Spy Vs. Spy. Obama is as invested in American defeat in Afghanistan as the Taliban is, and Ngo Dinh Di…er…Karzai thinks political infighting is enough to keep his head.

Steve Eggleston on November 25, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Karzai is definitely stuck between a rock (no pun intended-if you ever saw the terrain of that country)and a hard place. He would love to kick us all out, but once he does, his fate is doomed

Static21 on November 25, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Not to nit-pick, but wouldn’t this be a cross, not a double-cross?

TexasDan on November 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Karzai to Obama: if you like your troop agreement, you can keep your troop agreement.

N’est ce pas?

TexasDan on November 25, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Erika’s new thread needs you, ‘intellectual’ hack.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 3:07 PM

are you white? you prob shouldn’t refer to our black President as ‘boy’…unless you’re, ya know…a bigot

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

So, white and say ‘boy’, a bigot?

Then boy howdy! I got bigot on me like white on rice.

Tsar of Earth on November 25, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Unfortunately, this process is only at the beginning. Wait until Employers start dropping people like flies..next year is going to be a mess

Static21 on November 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Got to keep those poppy fields safe…

albill on November 25, 2013 at 2:46 PM

And the latest in designer capes for the Fashion King.

Tsar of Earth on November 25, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Is Obama Sunni or Shiite?
What is Karzai?
Iran Ayatollah?
Saudi King?
Muslim Brotherhood?
Erdogan?

albill on November 25, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Static21 on November 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM

I agree but it will also be an election year and I don’t think that the government as the savior is going to fly. I could be wrong.

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2013 at 3:14 PM

We can only hope and pray

Static21 on November 25, 2013 at 3:20 PM

My son Jacob is a US Army infantryman deployed to a remote firebase in a remote (and very hostile) province alongside the Pakistani border of that godforsaken country. Karzai wants to play games after so many years, so much American blood spilled, so much treasure spent? Okay, fine.

Not another drop of blood, not another dime, not another day. Send my boy and his buddies home. To hell with that godforsaken country and its people.

troyriser_gopftw on November 25, 2013 at 3:20 PM

troyriser_gopftw on November 25, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Amen. I wonder if nonpartisan agrees?

Cindy Munford on November 25, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Not to nit-pick, but wouldn’t this be a cross, not a double-cross?

TexasDan on November 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Between Teh SCOAMT and Die…er…Karzai, there hasn’t been so much as a cross yet. Do recall how the “negotiations” over a potential American stay in Iraq played out.

Steve Eggleston on November 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Afghanistan ‘plans to reintroduce public stoning as punishment for adultery’
INC on November 25, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Hey – what’s the big deal?
Lots of people are getting stoned legally in Colorado now….
/

dentarthurdent on November 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Will Susan be wearing a hijab?Karzai wants a bigger cut of the hash and opium trade.That of itself may get his head lopped off.He is cool with the Taliban because he pays them off with our money.He is just a capo in that mafia.It wouldn’t take over 3 or 4 well placed nukes to solve that places problems.Col.Kurtz was right all along.

docflash on November 25, 2013 at 3:30 PM

No one believes that Obama will deal fairly, so why should they deal fairly with him?

Steven Den Beste on November 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Karzai sees how O screws even his supporters, and therefore Karzai’s gotten cold feet.

socalcon on November 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM

You can’t force civilization on people who don’t want to be civilized. If they can’t defend themselves against the Taliban by now, it is because they don’t want to.

tdarrington on November 25, 2013 at 3:37 PM

You can’t force civilization on people who don’t want to be civilized. If they can’t defend themselves against the Taliban by now, it is because they don’t want to.

tdarrington on November 25, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Yup.
Those people just can’t be civilized.
I say we pull out entirely and nuke’em from orbit….

dentarthurdent on November 25, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Maybe Kerry will sail over there and straighten things out!!

right2bright on November 25, 2013 at 3:42 PM

nonpartisan

Well, you’ve covered ‘Bush!’ and ‘Racist/Bigot!’ why not go for the liberal trifecta mantra and throw out ‘Fox News!’ as well?

ghostwalker1 on November 25, 2013 at 3:43 PM

If you’re turning to Susan Rice as your fixer, you’re in trouble. But, I guess it could be worse. Kerry could show up.

besser tot als rot on November 25, 2013 at 3:48 PM

…the healthcare debacle, for example, is completely on Obama..and he’s owned up to it

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

No, he hasn’t–unless by ‘owning up to it’ you mean ‘claimed he didn’t know the Obamacare rollout would be an umitigated disaster’. Two different things. It should also be pointed out that the President repeatedly lied about every claim he made regarding Obamacre–you know, ‘if you like your doctor (and plan), you can keep your doctor (and plan).

This President spent his first term blaming Bush, and it looks like he’ll be spending his second term blaming the Republican majority in the House of Representatives.

It can’t be easy being you. Obama apologists have one of the most difficult jobs in the world. Poor Jay Carney’s aged 10 years in the last two.

troyriser_gopftw on November 25, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Got to keep those poppy fields safe…
Afghanistan opium poppy cultivation at record high
albill on November 25, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Nothing an annual 90 day napalm campaign wouldn’t severely curtail…which is the cornerstone of all Taliban warlords.

Get our troops out and close the embassy.

And let hell rain down…a small payment for the blood our hero’s have left there.

OldWeaselKeeper on November 25, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Susan Rice hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

although she is a pretty good representative for Obama when you think about it.

Kirkian on November 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM

I love it! A female John (I served in Vietnam) Kerry. Incompetence personified.

ultracon on November 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM

*sigh*

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM

That BDS is gonna kill ya, nancy-boy.

Solaratov on November 25, 2013 at 5:01 PM

are you white? you prob shouldn’t refer to our black President as ‘boy’…unless you’re, ya know…a bigot

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

BWAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry. Your race card has expired. It’s no longer accepted by intelligent people…which you are not.

You’re an idiot azzhole.

Solaratov on November 25, 2013 at 5:11 PM

nonpartisan on November 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

So, white and say ‘boy’, a bigot?

Then boy howdy! I got bigot on me like white on rice.

Tsar of Earth on November 25, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Is that anything like being Free, White and Twenty-one?

;-)

Solaratov on November 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM