Chicago Tribune: Man, the number of ObamaCare losers really seems to be piling up, doesn’t it?

posted at 2:51 pm on November 25, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Much love has evidently been lost between the Obama administration and the editors of President Obama’s hometown paper, particularly since the Chicago Tribune came out swinging against the administration’s incompetence in rolling out ObamaCare and its inherent big-government intrusion not too long ago. They’ve been getting a lot more critical of the president’s crowning legislative achievement, and their latest editorial takes issue with the “small” qualifier getting tacked on to so many of the very forced explanations coming from ObamaCare’s advocates and apologists.

‘Yes,’ many of these supporters are now begrudgingly admitting, ‘ObamaCare’s very nature does mean that there will be an ever-so-small number of losers who may have to pay just a tiny bit more for a new plan, but it’s OK because the vast, vast majority of people are going to absolutely love their new-and-improved, more comprehensive plans!’  …Except that, as the Chicago Trib points out, that losers-list is stubbornly growing longer, with no end in sight:

Abbott Laboratories chief executive Miles White said something last Tuesday that should jolt tens of millions of Americans who watch from a comfortable distance as the giant Obamacare blimp ignites and tumbles to the ground. These Americans are safely ensconced in employer-provided health care coverage — for now.

But there are “clear incentives for companies to drop their health care plans and move people onto the exchanges,” White told analysts at a luncheon, referring to the disastrously cranky and unreliable online insurance marketplaces created under Obamacare. …

If President Barack Obama and Democratic leaders think the outcry against Obamacare is fierce now, watch if millions more Americans get blindsided with the news that they’ll be forced into these dysfunctional government online marketplaces. Some will face higher premiums or higher deductibles…

Tens of millions of people who have coverage through large American companies aren’t losers … yet. The administration granted those businesses a one-year reprieve from the Obamacare mandate to provide coverage or pay penalties. That ends for 2015, and employers are already calculating what to do. Some may cut jobs, or employees’ hours, to avoid offering costly insurance coverage. Other companies may dump everyone into the federal exchanges and pay penalties that are almost certain to be less than what coverage would cost.

Besides the hospitals in for financial turbulence, the millions of individually insured receiving cancellation notices, and the millions insured through smaller employers whose coverage might get dropped that the Tribune also lists on the list of already explicit losers, their gist is that even people so far feeling insulated from the law because of their employer-sponsored insurance plans at larger companies could soon be in for a rude awakening about how the law is going to affect them.

If (let’s face it: not if, when) the list of ObamaCare’s losers eclipses the list of ObamaCare’s so-called “winners,” expect the building Democratic panic to really break loose.


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Where u been Trib the past 4 years?

hillsoftx on November 25, 2013 at 2:55 PM

“Obamacare Loser” is a great caption for that pic you chose!

KS Rex on November 25, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Losers from ZeroCare? There are about 300 million or so.

MTF on November 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM

If (let’s face it: not if, when) the list of ObamaCare’s losers eclipses the list of ObamaCare’s so-called “winners,” expect the building Democratic panic to really break loose.

Haven’t we already reached that point?

Millions have gotten cancellation notices, only thousands have “enrolled” in the exchanges.

Bitter Clinger on November 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Blah, blah, blah, blah…SO WHAT!

We knew this….who’s doing anything about it?

Perhaps I’m missing something, all I’m experiencing is Democrats telling me I’m not seeing what I’m seeing and Republicans trying to decide if they should have butter on their popcorn as they watch this Obamacare train wreck destroy peoples healthcare.

FlyNavy on November 25, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Every single story about the failure of O care by the MSM is them desperately trying to regain credibility before the 2014 elections and do the “see I told you, now trust us to Vet candidates better”. Nice try but I don’t think it is going to work.

Johnnyreb on November 25, 2013 at 2:58 PM

The Jugeared Jackass in Chief is on TV now giving another fundraising speech in San Francisco.

He just acknowledged Bat Kid. He knows about that, but he had no idea that the 0bamacare website wasn’t ready for launch?

Yeah, this guy has his priorities straight…..

UltimateBob on November 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM

All is well!!!!!
-libs

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Wow, who could have seen this coming?

Chris of Rights on November 25, 2013 at 3:01 PM

I wonder if it is possible to score another huge win in the House in these upcoming midterms, as well as take the Senate. At the rate we are going the number of losers in the 404Cre debacle will mean lots and lots of votes next November.

MTF on November 25, 2013 at 3:02 PM

but it’s OK because the vast, vast majority of people are going to absolutely love their new-and-improved, more comprehensive plans!’

A brief history of U.S. vastness.

Obama: The vast majority of Americans will be able to enroll via the website by November 30.

Kennedy: The vast majority of astronauts will land on the moon and return.

Eisenhower: The vast majority of soldiers will make it to the beach on D-Day.

Lincoln: The vast majority of slaves will be freed by this proclamation.

Washington: the vast majority of the colonies will be independent after this revolution.

Jefferson: The vast majority of the Bill of Rights will apply to the vast majority of the citizens for a vast majority of the time, in the vast majority of situations.

parke on November 25, 2013 at 3:03 PM

These stories are impossible since you and your brother’s two plans haven’t been cancelled, right Genuine?

rogerb on November 25, 2013 at 3:03 PM

To these mental midgets still supporting Oboobie and to those LIV, I still say “Suck it”. They still refuse to see the light, that socialism does not work

The sad thing is that Hillary will seize on this and argue that she and Bill were right all along – that Oboobi is inexperienced and incompetent. That the concept of social justice and redistribution is still a noble cause, the problem like all the other failed socialist endeavors were simply a matter of competence. If only the right person was in charge and made it happen. Oboobi failed miserable, because he was not the Won we were waiting for, rather it is her. And like lemmings, enough will bit the hook to make her formidable in 2016. Coming soon on bumper stickers “HillaryCare / Not ObamaCare, Hillary will make it work”

AH_C on November 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Soon, 2014, the number of the dead-due-to-obama will pile up.

The Ds s/b desperate, and they are, the hyenas.

All s/b politically as dead as all the cancer patients and others who’ll be without ins. will be.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

I wonder if it is possible to score another huge win in the House in these upcoming midterms, as well as take the Senate. At the rate we are going the number of losers in the 404Cre debacle will mean lots and lots of votes next November.

MTF on November 25, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Don’t tell Barry. He was telling donors at a fundraiser last night that he needs Pelosi back as Speaker. Of course he’s also telling people that Obamacare is working, so he’s obviously living on another planet.

Doughboy on November 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Number of dead will be very high, due to obama.

Number of no-insured will be over 100 million, due to obama.

Number of unemployed will be horrendous, due to obama.

Number of underemployed will be very high, due to obama.

Plus, quit calling them “subsidies”. They are redistribution of your labor and efforts. Period.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Someone needs to write an article for Thanksgiving Day dinner discussion on “10 Ways ObamaCare Really Sucks”.
Need to do a lot of educating out there…

albill on November 25, 2013 at 3:10 PM

When will all these cancellations take place though? Before the midterm?

DCMickel on November 25, 2013 at 3:12 PM

If (let’s face it: not if, when) the list of ObamaCare’s losers eclipses the list of ObamaCare’s so-called “winners,” include the Presstitute Organs that so far continue to enable their Rat masters, expect the building Democratic panic to really break loose.

ReWrite™ engaged for more-accurate predictions. The number of PlaceboCare losers already exceed the number of PlaceboCare winners…by design.

Steve Eggleston on November 25, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Here’s a simple fact (born out by personal experience): Employers, especially large ones that self-insure, have already moved to “Obamacare” compliant plans, even though the didn’t need to just yet. Planning for these kinds of things can take a year or two so employers began doing so right away. My own plan features…coverage I don’t need like maternity care (spouse and I are in our 50′s), contraception (ditto and we’re – horrors – happily married) etc. AND it’s a high deductible plan featuring an HSA. The premiums were nearly identical to my prior “Cadillac” plan that had much lower out-of-pocket expenses. Now I pay the same premium for the privilege of using my own money to pay the lion’s share of my actual costs. It’s perfect! I’m expecting more “good” news coming next year.

So while I didn’t get kicked out onto the exchanges, I did get a shiny new Obamacare-compliant plan, just like you might find on the exchanges.

BillyWilly on November 25, 2013 at 3:14 PM

War :)

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Chicago Tribune: Man, the number of ObamaCare losers really seems to be piling up, doesn’t it?

Only if you use numbers and math.

Gatsu on November 25, 2013 at 3:20 PM

ACA a.k.a The KnockOut Game

BoxHead1 on November 25, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Built into the system. These aren’t outliers this is the new law. Pay up makers the takers need more of Obamas stash. Oh and heres the red pill.

neyney on November 25, 2013 at 3:23 PM

For those that want the Republicans to do something need to understand that until they at least get the senate, NOTHING is going to be done about obamacare. Go ahead and flame me if you want but that is the hard truth about it. The Left is going to do everything they can to prop up something they have been trying to do for YEARS…. they wont let it die.

To the Newspapers… all I gotta say is DUH…its only going to get even worse come next year.

watertown on November 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM

If (let’s face it: not if, when) the list of ObamaCare’s losers eclipses the list of ObamaCare’s so-called “winners,” expect the building Democratic panic to really break loose.

Um, this has already happened; 5+ million cancellations vs. 100k signups (80% of which are Medicaid)? Hello?

Midas on November 25, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Soon, 2014, the number of the dead-due-to-obama will pile up.
The Ds s/b desperate, and they are, the hyenas.
Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Naw, that will be GOOD for the Democrats.

Just like amnesty granted Illegals will vote overwhelmingly Democrat, it is a well known fact that ALL dead people that vote, vote exclusively Democrat.

LegendHasIt on November 25, 2013 at 3:32 PM

can any of the libbers explain what exactly this law was supposed to fix???

RonK on November 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM

The stupid voting behavior of U.S. citizens is finally catching up with them, and taking us along with them.

Thanks, dumbasses.

MisterElephant on November 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM

I wonder if it is possible to score another huge win in the House in these upcoming midterms, as well as take the Senate. At the rate we are going the number of losers in the 404Cre debacle will mean lots and lots of votes next November.

MTF on November 25, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Only if you think the “law? what law?” President and Democrats will allow that to happen – rather than willfully nullifying, delaying or altering portions of the law/mandates, outright printing of enough money to simply pay everyone’s premiums enough to relieve the pressure long enough to get past the elections, etc.

They are *not* going to let themselves be destroyed in 11/2014 without pulling *all* the stops out – legal, ethical, or not – to make sure that doesn’t happen.

Midas on November 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM

… oh, and don’t think they won’t amend the filibuster rule to get amnesty passed with 51 votes (and with Boehner’s help in the House) well in advance of making sure all those millions of shiny new Democrats can vote ‘correctly’ and gratefully in 11/2014…

Midas on November 25, 2013 at 3:35 PM

When will all these cancellations take place though? Before the midterm?

DCMickel on November 25, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Under the law – the insurance companies are required to provide no less than 90 days notice to insurers who are losing their coverages. So with a mid-December ‘new start’ date, that means that mid-August to mid-September (the ‘due’ date) will see the bulk of the cancellation notifications go out.

Now, of course, the President can always unilaterally change the law to reduce the 90 day requirement – but that would not be looked to kindly upon by the State Insurance Commissioners or consumer advocacy groups (many of which are progressive policy supporters).

Those notices, particularly if in the numbers estimated by HHS, 90-95 million, will take the electoral pressure / panic of the Democrats and set it right off the top of the gauge. I suspect that the first real signs of panic will settle in during the latter part of the 1st Quarter of 2014 when it becomes clear that the website ‘fixes’ have done little to band-aid the problems, and the growing exposure of Administration lies bears real fruit on a frustrated public.

Obama is a lame duck President now – even if he tries to advance his agenda via executive fiat. What 2014 will bring will be a real civil war in the Democrat Party as they have to decide whom to toss under the bus in order to ‘save’ the other – Obama or their big government agenda.

Athos on November 25, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Here’s the best case of what we can expect large corporations to do:

Collude a strategy that saves a bit of face and turnover: They will calculate the monetary value of each employee’s company-paid healthcare cost and give each employee a small raise.

And then, with clear corporate consciences, toss us into the Lion’s Exchanges.

Tsar of Earth on November 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Begging the question:

Do Flubberneck Mitch and drunk John have a farking clue what to do with any political advantage that stems from the Obumblescare fiasco?

rickyricardo on November 25, 2013 at 3:46 PM

The stupid voting behavior of U.S. citizens is finally catching up with them, and taking us along with them.

Thanks, dumbasses.

MisterElephant on November 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Could not agree more. Arrived in this country in 1972. Love this country, enlisted twice. I have watched over the past forty years as politicians and the media have steadily dumbed down a majority of an electorate willing to be dumbed down. Sad really. I am actively planning my escape.

msupertas on November 25, 2013 at 3:50 PM

They aren’t losers… they are just people who haven’t realized that having to choose a government sub-standard plan is much, much better than their having to choose their own sub-standard plan.

You see?

Adding the cost, overhead and expense of government makes everything ever so much nicer.

ajacksonian on November 25, 2013 at 3:52 PM

I keep hearing that the big benefit is children getting to stay on their parents plan to age 26. Nobody is talking about what happens to the children when the parents lose their employer based coverage.

TulsAmerican on November 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM

can any of the libbers explain what exactly this law was supposed to fix???

RonK on November 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM

My take…

Libs “in the know” understand that this is supposed to fix that annoying requirement to win elections in order to hold power. By controlling our health and wealth at the same time, they hold control which begets power.

freedomfirst on November 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Obama: “I’ve decided today to delay the employer mandate until 2016, in order to give the evil insurance companies more time to get their crap squared away. Also, as you know, the Senate passed comprehensive immigration reform yesterday with 52 votes, per the new Senate rules on legislation. And I’m proud to say, that Speaker Boehner lived up to his promise to deliver the votes on the legislation in the House, where it passed this morning with 100% Democrat support (and a few of those other guys who didn’t really want to do it). I expect to have it signed before I leave for my golf vacation in the morning, and all of our new proud citizens will be immediately able to report to the appropriate locations to sign-up for free Obamacare, food stamps, and an Obamaphone, which they can use to find out where they and their extended families will vote in next November’s elections. Welcome to America, and – you’re welcome.”

Mid-term election problem solved.

Midas on November 25, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Begging the question:

Do Flubberneck Mitch and drunk John have a farking clue what to do with any political advantage that stems from the Obumblescare fiasco?

rickyricardo on November 25, 2013 at 3:46 PM

You mean beyond:
– help relieve the pressure on the Dems;
– work harder to destroy conservatives;
– make sure amnesty gets passed?

Midas on November 25, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Much love has evidently been lost between the Obama administration and the editors of President Obama’s hometown paper,

I don’t disagree with the analysis, but it’s a little silly to constantly refer to the Tribune as an Obama-friendly paper. The Tribune has long been the conservative paper of the two. Yes they endorsed their hometown favorite in 2008 and yes they (extremely half heartedly) kinda sorta endorsed Obama in 2012. But pointing to the Tribune’s critical articles as some sort of triumph is lazy on our part.

When Obama loses the Sun-Times, now that’s worthy of celebrating!!

Hostile Gospel on November 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Just one more step toward the ultimate single-payer plan.

HiJack on November 25, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Among the Losers:

people are being enrolled in Medicaid by Obamacare whether they want to be or not, despite some not being qualified for Medicaid by personal worth alone (yet still are being enrolled in it).

And 2015 brings HIGHER RATES FOR EVERYONE — the whole Obamacare process assigns insurers a “resetting of rates” in 2015 based upon the results, so to speak, of Obamacare prior to that.

So for all the Losers reasonably and rightly complaining now, conditions are only going to get worse, much worse, if Obamacare legislation is allowed to remain in effect.

Lourdes on November 25, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Obama supporters have had their heads up their collective backsides for 5 years.

crosshugger on November 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM

a newspaper. thanks guys. for telling us too late what we already know. and not mentioning any of this before last niovember when it could have mattered. what is the reason for your existence anyway?

t8stlikchkn on November 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM

For Obamacare Architects, Problems are Features, not Bugs
A Commentary by Michael Barone

Lourdes on November 25, 2013 at 4:42 PM

They have just begun to get to full panic. The train is wrecking faster than the demons can jump off.

jake49 on November 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

FOR 2014:

The expression:

Scarce as hen’s teeth

is officially replaced by:

Scarce as Obamacare-accepting Doctor

landlines on November 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM

At some point we must confront our over reliance on traditional mathematics to explain the metaphysical world of Obama. We need a unifying theory of sorts, a kind of “O” string theory..that finally connects it all together…..fortunately we have such a man….

“I think Barack knew that he had God-given talents that were extraordinary. He knows exactly how smart he is. … He knows how perceptive he is. He knows what a good reader of people he is. And he knows that he has the ability — the extraordinary, uncanny ability — to take a thousand different perspectives, digest them and make sense out of them, and I think that he has never really been challenged intellectually. … So what I sensed in him was not just a restless spirit but somebody with such extraordinary talents that had to be really taxed in order for him to be happy. … He’s been bored to death his whole life. He’s just too talented to do what ordinary people do.”

VJ

R Square on November 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Haven’t we already reached that point?

Millions have gotten cancellation notices, only thousands have “enrolled” in the exchanges.

Bitter Clinger on November 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Yup, just as the president misspoke when he said if you like your plan you can keep your plan, if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, he also misspoke when he said the ACA would reduce the premiums Americans pay and would increase the number of Americans with insurance. It doesn’t do any of those things. If only someone in the media had taken the time to do an adequate analysis any time in the last 3 and a half years or listen to any of the conservative opposition instad of branding them racists, we might not be in this position.

talkingpoints on November 25, 2013 at 5:01 PM

The only thing these Idiots can say now is you can get a plan with a pre existing illness, your premium will be affordable and on and on and on BS. I very seldom give money to political campaigns but you can bet your sweet ass I will this year. I am suggesting to everyone I know to never vote for anyone who has a DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD after their name. Never, Never, Never.

tmgrant on November 25, 2013 at 5:06 PM

If (let’s face it: not if, when) the list of ObamaCare’s losers eclipses the list of ObamaCare’s so-called “winners,” expect the building Democratic panic to really break loose.

Um, this has already happened; 5+ million cancellations vs. 100k signups (80% of which are Medicaid)? Hello?

Midas on November 25, 2013 at 3:29 PM

It’s almost as though all along, they were more interested in pushing people onto a government plan than they were in helping people get affordable private health insurance.

RINO in Name Only on November 25, 2013 at 5:15 PM

LegendHasIt on November 25, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Heh, Ronald Reagan’s story comes to mind…there’s always…pony and all that.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I think I must be paranoid because I can’t shake the doom feeling that the democrats will somehow steal the elections in 2014.

birdwatcher on November 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

I’m always -for some reason- surprised how flippant some people can be when it comes to the naked politics being played at the expense of people’s lives.

Take the Politico piece linked at the end of Erika’s post, for example:

Democrats are increasingly worried that Democratic leaders are not taking seriously enough the potential election blowback resulting from the Obamacare debacle. Well, boo-freakin-hoo, you scumbag Obamacare voters. You wanted this thing. You knew it was going to cancel most plans in the first year which is why you supported Obama rolling back the big one until next year. Then you whined about that, so he rolled back the date of the big dump until after the elections. But you still realize that employers aren’t going to keep quiet about what they’re doing to combat these new costs being levied on them and you know that moving the open enrollment period back isn’t alone going to be enough to save your candyass job. So now you’re scared. Well guess what? There’s a whole lot of people who are having their health care upended who are a lot more scared then you are, and all you care about is you.

And Politico writes about it from the very same position.

Sickening.

BKeyser on November 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM