Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on November 24, 2013 by Allahpundit

The United States and five other world powers announced a landmark accord Sunday morning that would temporarily freeze Iran’s nuclear program and lay the foundation for a more sweeping agreement…

The United States did not accept Iran’s claim that it had a “right to enrich” under the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. But American officials signaled last week that they were open to a compromise in which the two sides would essentially agree to disagree on how the proliferation treaty should be interpreted, while Tehran continued to enrich

“At the end of six months, we may see another half step and six more months of negotiations — ad infinitum,” said Gary Samore, a senior aide on nonproliferation issues on the National Security Council in Mr. Obama’s first term. Mr. Samore is now president of United Against Nuclear Iran, a nonprofit group that advocates tough sanctions against Iran unless it does more to curtail its nuclear program.

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The deal does not roll back the vast majority of the advances Iran has made in the past five years, which have drastically shortened what nuclear experts call its “dash time” to a bomb — the minimum time it would take to build a weapon if Iran’s supreme leader or military decided to pursue that path.

Lengthening that period, so that the United States and its allies would have time to react, is the ultimate goal of President Obama’s negotiating team. It is also a major source of friction between the White House and two allies, Israel and Saudi Arabia, which have made no secret of their belief that they are being sold down the river…

At the beginning of Mr. Obama’s presidency, Iran had roughly 2,000 kilograms of low-enriched uranium, barely enough for a bomb. It now has about 9,000 kilograms, by the estimates of the International Atomic Energy Agency. A few thousand centrifuges were spinning in 2009; today there are 18,000, including new models that are far more efficient and can produce bomb-grade uranium faster. A new heavy water reactor outside the city of Arak promises a new pathway to a bomb, using plutonium, if it goes online next year as Iran says it will.

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Iran’s top officials on Sunday welcomed the initial agreement struck with world powers over its nuclear activities, hailing the deal as the beginning of a new era for the Islamic republic, both in its relations with other countries and for its sanctions-ravaged economy…

Addressing concerns over the language in the agreement between the six world powers and Iran regarding Tehran’s ability to continue work on its nuclear program, Rouhani said, “Let anyone make his own reading, but this right is clearly stated in the text of the agreement that Iran can continue its enrichment, and I announce to our people that our enrichment activities will continue as before.”…

One of the achievements of Sunday’s agreement, according to Rouhani, is that “the sanctions will be broken. The cracks in the sanctions started began last night, and in future those gaps will be grow.”

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Despite the irate responses from the Prime Minister’s Office to the agreement signed in Geneva early Sunday between Iran and six world powers, the deal is not really a bad one. Even from an Israeli perspective, it is actually a reasonable deal. Maybe even a good one

But the most important part of this agreement is the inspection regime. Under the deal, inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency will be given daily access to the Natanz and Fordo facilities, permitting inspectors to review surveillance camera footage. At the moment, inspectors visit just once every two weeks. This increased monitoring will reduce the risk of a nuclear breakout without the knowledge of the UN watchdog.

The Geneva agreement will also give the international community valuable information about the Iranian nuclear program that it did not have before. Iran has committed to give IAEA inspectors access to centrifuge assembly lines and uranium mines and mills, and to provide design information about the Arak reactor, after years of refusing to do so. Inspectors will also be given more frequent access to the reactor.

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The Iranian nuclear deal struck Saturday night is a triumph. It contains nothing that any American, Israeli, or Arab skeptic could reasonably protest. Had George W. Bush negotiated this deal, Republicans would be hailing his diplomatic prowess, and rightly so…

Without going into a lot of technical detail (which can be read here), the point is this: The agreement makes it impossible for the Iranians to make any further progress toward making a nuclear weapon in the next six months—and, if the talks break down after that, and the Iranians decide at that point to start building a nuclear arsenal, it will take them much longer to do so.

In exchange for these restraints, the P5+1 nations agree to free up about $6 billion of Iran’s long-frozen foreign assets. This amounts to a very small percentage of the sanctions imposed on Iran’s energy and financial sectors. Meanwhile, all other sanctions will remain in place and continue to be vigorously enforced; the agreement doesn’t affect those sanctions at all. The U.S. Congress does have to agree not to impose additional sanctions in the next six months. If it imposes them anyway, they must know that this agreement—and the international coalition holding the sanctions in place—will collapse. Even this Congress is likely to hold off. If it does go ahead and passes a bill imposing new sanctions, Obama will certainly veto it.

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By not agreeing to dismantle a single centrifuge, Iran has not rolled back its nuclear infrastructure and with the many centrifuges that it is currently operating, Iran retains the ability to breakout and produce enough weapons-grade uranium for a nuclear weapon in as little as 2 months. At the same time, the carefully constructed sanctions architecture developed over decades has been significantly rolled back.

It is unrealistic to characterize sanctions as a spigot that can be turned off and back on. By rolling back sanctions now, the international community is significantly lessening the pressure on Iran’s economy and the best measure of that pressure is the value of the Iranian rial. Six months from now we believe that the Iranian rial will have regained significant lost value and there will be far less economic pressure on the Iranian economy. And accordingly there will be far less pressure for Iran to actually dismantle a material number of centrifuges, much less end its nuclear enrichment and plutonium programs for which it has no practical purpose except to produce a nuclear weapon. If Iran’s industrial-size nuclear program is not rolled back, Tehran will inherently maintain the breakout capacity to build such a weapon.

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The upshot of all this is that Iran is getting billions of dollars for agreeing to negotiate more. If negotiations don’t yield a better deal, the Iranian nuclear program will not have been set back significantly.

What brought diplomacy with Iran this far is punishing sanctions, almost all of which have originated on Capitol Hill. The White House has more than once been opposed to or lukewarm on sanctions bills and then retroactively endorsed them when they passed the Senate unanimously. The Obama administration’s instincts with Iran, in other words, have always been to play the good cop — and a good cop can’t accomplish much without a bad cop.

Congress should continue to play bad cop, and when the Senate returns from recess, it should go ahead and pass the next round of sanctions that have already passed the House. More economic pressure, not less, is what will corner Iran into a meaningful permanent deal, the only way to prevent the dangerous emergence of a nuclear-armed theocracy without resorting to war.

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Iran will go back on the nuclear agreement it just signed with the United States and other world powers if Congress imposes new sanctions, Iran’s foreign minister told NBC News after the deal was announced.

“If there are new sanctions, then there is no deal. It’s very clear. End of the deal. Because of the inability of one party to maintain their side of the bargain,” Foreign Minister Javad Zarif said during an exclusive interview with NBC News.

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[W]hile the concessions to Iran on sanctions are in and of themselves not dramatic, the reversal in momentum for sanctions and the loss of the psychology of impenetrable sanctions is of immeasurable value to Tehran. Dealmakers will be back, letters of credit will once again be available, and it will be the beginning of the end of international cooperation on sanctions. Worse yet, the administration will be loath to call Iran for failing to measure up to the letter of the agreement for fear of collapse, with all the concomitant loss of reputation to the President. The administration, having once been an advocate for an end to Iran’s nuclear program, will become an advocate for Iran. Don’t believe it? Look at last week’s outrageous comments by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei about Israel. Where was Kerry? Look at the administration’s opposition to new sanctions on the Hill.

In short, it is wrong to say Iran has given nothing; Iran has given something, but nothing that halts its progress towards a nuclear weapons capability. It has simply pushed back a break-out date which was immaterial to Iran, which has little intention of immediate break-out in any case. In return, it has earned something far more valuable than the concessions it granted: an advocate for the current regime in the White House.

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If Iran has the expertise and infrastructure to build nuclear weapons—even if it chooses not to do so—and at the same time it comes in from the cold, joining the community of nations (and the World Trade Organization) on equal terms with the ability to exploit fully its huge oil and gas reserves, then it becomes not only a regional player, but a regional superpower…

But the Obama administration has conceded a crucial point that the neocons of the George W. Bush administration and the hawks in Israel never wanted to admit: Iran’s leaders are not insane, and least of all Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and the current president, Hassan Rouhani, elected last summer…

The number one priority of the mullahs throughout their reign has been the preservation of their theocratic rule, and the Obama administration decided to deal with them on that basis. The White House has reassured them privately and publicly that “regime change” is not its goal, although that might be the result if the nuclear issue led to war. The mullahs have no reason to want that. And neither does Washington.

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“It’s a bad agreement because of what it symbolizes,” [Yoel Guzansky] said. “It means Iran is getting an acceptance, a signature that it’s a legitimate country.” Even worse for Israel, he added, the agreement amounts to “acceptance of Iran as a nuclear threshold state.”…

Guzansky also said Israel’s main card — military action — appears to be out of the question right now.

“How can Israel, after the entire international community sat with Iran, shook hands with Iran and signed an agreement, operate independently?” he said. “It will be seen as someone who sabotages 10 years of trying to get Iran to the table and trying to get a deal.”

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Presidents think in four- and eight-year increments; Iranians and Israelis for that matter think in longer terms. Iran should be happy that the threat of military force is receding; Israel is unhappy for the same reason. If Iran plays its cards smartly and doesn’t stick the nuclear issue in Obama’s face, Tehran hopes, the international community’s urgency in pressing ahead on sanctions will fade. Congress might hold the line, but the Russians, Chinese and many others won’t. And over time, the sanctions will diminish in effectiveness. But Iran, having mastered the process of how to make nukes, will always have this capacity and can move to operationalize it if chooses to do so…

Where you stand in life has a great deal to do with where you sit. Israel is a small power in a dangerous neighborhood; the United States is a behemoth with non-predatory neighbors to its north and south and fish to its east and west. And while it might have been too much to expect complete unanimity in the U.S. and Israeli positions on Iran, what you have now is the making of a diplomatic trainwreck, with the United States pressing ahead with diplomacy while the Israelis snipe from the sidelines…

Allies can disagree. But when America’s two longest and closest friends in the Middle East seem to have more in common with one another than with the United States, on a fundamental issue that frankly affects their security more than America’s, that’s a serious problem.

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Via NRO.


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Here you go… :)

Scrumpy on November 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

I too must depart!

Hope all you guys enjoyed the game!!

God Bless all and Good Night!!

* swoosh *

Scrumpy on November 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

I too must depart!

Hope all you guys enjoyed the game!!

God Bless all and Good Night!!

* swoosh *

Scrumpy on November 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

God Bless, Scrumpy – Good Night, dear!

williamg on November 25, 2013 at 12:45 AM

…nice links!

KOOLAID2 on November 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM

I already know what music would be playing on the jukebox.

Let’s Get It On – Marvin Gaye

thatsafactjack on November 24, 2013 at 10:50 PM

My personal Rave-On in this area…..

williamg on November 25, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Scrumpy on November 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Night, Scrumpy.

You have sweet dreams, too…and stay safe.

Try that sweater thing next time you go out. ;-)

Solaratov on November 25, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Hi merm.

SparkPlug on November 25, 2013 at 1:03 AM

I hear the tip tap
Of fingers, way down
Yonder. Silence is
Deafening, there is
No escape, keep on
Tip tapping, to
No one….

Scrumpy on November 24, 2013 at 10:55 PM

All one can say is: “Beautiful, baby – BEA-U-TI-FUL!!”

Now – if you like it Live…..

williamg on November 25, 2013 at 1:04 AM

What I did today:

Mostly slept……..then – I got up and Worked for a few hours…….then I went back to sleep….

williamg on November 25, 2013 at 1:22 AM

Ok think I’ll spin a tune :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3UR8jGhE5U

Cuz I’m in a peculiar frame of mind :)

Scrumpy on November 24, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Scrumpy! That was “edjamacating”!!

Loved it! Heard them before – but had NO IDEA!!

Classic, classic Stuff!

THANKS!

williamg on November 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

What I did today:
Mostly slept……..then – I got up and Worked for a few hours…….then I went back to sleep….
williamg on November 25, 2013 at 1:22 AM

Sounds like a good day!

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Dire Straits was here..:)

Dire Straits on November 25, 2013 at 2:19 AM

OK,

Here south of Paris Texas, north of interstate 30 , 32 F, cold rain some sleet, Nov. 25, 2013, now 3:00 AM .
45 years ago this one out on the trails in Laos counting the NVA coming down the Whore-who-shi$-his-men trails, seeing with my own eyes Russian/China/Chek/etal advisers.
Kerry lying his a&& off to get fake fraud purple hearts in 90 days to get out. Our unit can not even report that we get hit at all, some guys with 20 wounds a year by very hostile fire.

Still this commie traitor walks the liar walk, still he gets American fighting men killed with his lies.

It is going to sleet/snow yet the lead liar Obama will claim it is global warming that is causing the snow and ice. The msm commie liars and crazy university kooks and killers who lie the same CO2 kills lie will lie in liar harmony.

King liar will be on TV telling U.S. that an invasion from Mexico is good for U.S…

Will the Republicans follow these lies and also lie to U.S. now.

They all know 100% that Obama is a 100% empty suit and full bore commie liar just like Lt. for life John F. Kerry.

Will their greed for the cheap Mexican slave labor out weight their duty to serve and protect.

Soon the sheep dogs will have to bare their teeth and attack these killer wolves or the flock will be wind-rowed by evil deaths from these massive lies and fraud.

We are in great danger, talk will not do the job seems to some.

On guard Americans.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 25, 2013 at 4:12 AM

In an essay titled “Interminable Totalitarianism in the Tropics,” collected in The Black Book of Communism by Harvard University Press, French historian Pascal Fontaine describes the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution, Castro’s ruthless enforcers of ideological correctness. One was set up on each block in urban areas to keep watch on everybody. Everything about them intimidates. Next to the front door of one CDR office I saw the image of a faceless man wielding a sword above the words “Always in combat.”

Always in combat against whom, you might ask?

The neighbors.

“The surveillance and denunciation system is so rigorous,” Fontaine writes, “that family intimacy is almost nonexistent.”

Family intimacy is almost nonexistent.

Aside from the slave labor camps and the staggering body counts, I can think of no more devastating an indictment of totalitarian government than that sentence. Something broke inside me when I read it.

Democrat utopia Cuba! Keep voting democrat comrades! Endless revolucion!

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/michael-j-totten/welcome-cuba

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 4:30 AM

For John Kerry:

The Greens – “Hey Horse, Why the Long Face?”

Anti-Control on November 25, 2013 at 4:41 AM

The illusion of choice(picture)

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 4:42 AM

The illusion of choice(picture)

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 4:42 AM

Fixed link

Anti-Control on November 25, 2013 at 4:52 AM

Fixed link

Anti-Control on November 25, 2013 at 4:52 AM

Thanks. I thought the broken link was the point.

kcewa on November 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM

Obama’s boos

Iran launches ‘Down with America’ awards offering £2,500 for the best photo, cartoon, or article which demonises the US

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2477471/Iran-launches-Down-America-awards-offering-2-500-best-photo-cartoon-article-demonises-US.html

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM

Obama’s boos

Iran launches ‘Down with America’ awards offering £2,500 for the best photo, cartoon, or article which demonises the US

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM

My submission

kcewa on November 25, 2013 at 4:59 AM

My submission

kcewa on November 25, 2013 at 4:59 AM

heh.

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 5:00 AM

Thanks.

Y/w.

I thought the broken link was the point.

kcewa on November 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM

:)

Tin Huey – “Chinese Circus”

Anti-Control on November 25, 2013 at 5:06 AM

good morning HA

another day, another praising of the most awesomest president by mika and the morning joe crew for a job well done with iran…

blech

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 5:24 AM

obama pivoting towards immigration as he campaigns out west today…

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 5:37 AM

Report: 63% of Americans favor legislation to create pathway to citizenship for immigrants in US illegally – @nytimes

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/25/us/in-report-63-back-way-to-get-citizenship.html?_r=0

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 6:38 AM

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 6:38 AM

some msdnc hack was touting that this am as great news

cripe

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 6:46 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.

My take: Obama “Surrenders”. Israel Prepares.

Genesis 12:3 – And, I will bless those who bless you…

kingsjester on November 25, 2013 at 6:51 AM

In an interview with the Knesset Channel, Likud MK Hanegbi said Netanyahu warned the president against repeating North Korea, Pakistan precedents.

http://www.jpost.com/Iranian-Threat/News/PM-said-to-have-rebuked-Obama-over-Iran-nuclear-deal-332933

“The prime minister made it clear to the most powerful man on earth that if he intends to stay the most powerful man on earth, it’s important to make a change in American policy because the practical result of his current policy is liable to lead him to the same failure that the Americans absorbed in North Korea and Pakistan, and Iran could be next in line,” Likud Beytenu MK Tzachi Hanegbi told the Knesset Channel.

Obama responded by saying, If you like your Zion, you can keep your Zion.

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 7:05 AM

God bless us and Israel

Great take KJ

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 7:06 AM

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 6:46 AM

andrea mitchell admitted that obama blinking on Syria, caused him to lose cred.

Still waiting for mika to repudiate bashir’s comments.
*crickets*

renalin on November 25, 2013 at 7:06 AM

Crack-smoking Toronto mayor more popular than Obama

http://rt.com/usa/toronto-mayor-approval-obama-212/

Rob Ford, the embattled mayor of Toronto, notoriously known for his crack-smoking “drunken stupors” and murder threats, has managed to get a 42 percent approval rating from Toronto voters beating Obama’s rating of 40 percent.

Murphy9 on November 25, 2013 at 7:06 AM

Kristol v Haas on mj now

Haas towing the wh line, natch

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 7:09 AM

I hear ya Renalin…..

Bashir? Never heard of him
-mika

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 7:10 AM

So its the gops fault that they didn’t get a deal 10 years ago
-msdnc hack

There was a deal and Iran broke it 2 years later
-kristol

Right back at ya

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 7:13 AM

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 7:06 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on November 25, 2013 at 7:14 AM

My take: Obama “Surrenders”. Israel Prepares.

Genesis 12:3 – And, I will bless those who bless you…

kingsjester on November 25, 2013 at 6:51 AM

…hope…there are three more years… to survive!

KOOLAID2 on November 25, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Good Morning night owls and early morning risers…..

Politico’s morning headline consist of the “worried” Democrats on O’Care—-“As deadline nears, ticking clock on Democratic patience”

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/obamacare-deadline-democrats-congress-100289.html?hp=t1_s

My response:

“Some Capitol Hill Democrats are preparing to launch broadsides against President Barack Obama if the Affordable Care Act website isn’t fixed by the end of the month.”

No problem. The White House, (like the Democrats in Congress), will “deem” the website “officially up and running”, despite the continuing “glitches” and security flaws. Obama’s lamestream media, and his network of liberal progressive internet lemmings will echo the “triumphant resurrection” of the calamity, and everyone will pretend the millions who are out in the wilderness with absolutely no coverage are only temporary casualties for a greater good. Words like “train-wreck”, “re-distribution”, and “bungled roll-out” will fade from the headlines faster than terrorist attack blamed on a video.

The President will throw a Christmas, strike that, Holiday party at the White House and invite all the complicit media darlings, (and their spouses), and remind them all that this is “a time of giving”, and ObamaCare is the Tiny Tim story of what might have happened had all those Republican Scrooges not found enlightenment.

Then, they will all wake up and discover this was all a dream, and the nightmare of a Federal take-over of the heath insurance industry requires only one more little “fix”—-about two more trillion dollars of tax-payer funding, (a meager/trivial cost to provide care for all), and if those mean old Tea Party Republicans in the House refuse to go along with this charade, they will all be blasted as the Grinch who stole Christmas.

There, the political table is set. Everyone sit down and eat your peas.

(fade to 12 months later, and the nightmare begins anew, with the employer mandate kicking in, (leaving another 20-40 million out in the cold), and your Federal Government requiring another 2-3 trillion to fund this never-ending nightmare. And remember, “if you like this story, you can keep it”. ~ Rovin

Rovin on November 25, 2013 at 7:56 AM

+1 rovin

cmsinaz on November 25, 2013 at 8:03 AM

I just want to leave a little something for my son who just got married yesterday…he was a beautiful boy…now a man.

d1carter on November 25, 2013 at 1:06 AM

Congratulations. :)

Axe on November 25, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Thanks cmsinaz…..As usual, I do think the media will attempt to spin/control the narrative going forward.

Rovin on November 25, 2013 at 8:12 AM

kingsjester on November 25, 2013 at 6:51 AM

“Today the world became a much more dangerous place because the most dangerous regime in the world made a significant step in obtaining the most dangerous weapons in the world,” Netanyahu said.

Thanks to a stupid American electorate and a corrupt media electing an unqualified incompetent narcissist and his radical entourage.

Cleombrotus on November 25, 2013 at 8:25 AM

“Today the world became a much more dangerous place because the most dangerous regime in the world made a significant step in obtaining the most dangerous weapons in the world,” Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu could have just as easily been talking about the passing of ObamaCare.

Rovin on November 25, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Netanyahu could have just as easily been talking about the passing of ObamaCare.

Rovin on November 25, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Interesting.

Axe on November 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Congratulations. :)

Axe on November 25, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Thank you!

d1carter on November 25, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Netanyahu could have just as easily been talking about the passing of ObamaCare.

Rovin on November 25, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Free birth control for hookers! And, death panels for old people. And, the death our enshrined rights: the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness…

Fallon on November 25, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Aaack!!! One too many Ands…

Fallon on November 25, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Reporting for duty

Derelict in his duty.

Wade on November 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Reporting for duty dooty

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Good night and good morning :)

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

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