Obama: How about we change the subject, mm-kay?

posted at 10:01 am on November 23, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Well, who can blame him?  Today’s competing radio addresses tell the meta-story, as CNN reports.  Republicans focused on the meltdown at HHS over the ObamaCare rollout, while Barack Obama provided his 387th pivot to the economy:

While Republicans continued on the anti-Obamacare offensive, President Barack Obama largely pivoted away from the troubled rollout of Healthcare.gov, instead focusing his address on the economy.

Actually, you can get a pretty good sense of the news value of each speech from its position in CNN’s report.  The Republican speech by Rep. Michael Burgess gets quoted in the second and third paragraph:

Texas Republican Rep. Michael Burgess, a physician and vice chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, called the Affordable Care Act a “train wreck for doctors, a train wreck for patients, and most importantly, it’s a train wreck for the American people.”

“It has now become clear that the reality of the president’s health care law does not match what he promised: A website that was launched before it was finished. Waves of cancellation letters. The sticker shock of high premiums, coupled with ever-increasing deductibles,” Burgess said in the GOP weekly address released Saturday.

Readers have to scan down all the way down to the seventh paragraph to get to what Obama said, and even then the pivot isn’t so much a policy rollout as it is cheerleading for stagnation:

“Over the past couple months, most of the political headlines you’ve read have probably been about the government shutdown and the launch of the Affordable Care Act,” Obama said in his weekly address.

“And I know that many of you have rightly never been more frustrated with Washington. But if you look beyond those headlines, there are some good things happening in our economy. And that’s been my top priority since the day I walked into the Oval Office.”

Obama did take a shot at Republicans over their opposition to ObamaCare:

“Think about what we could do if a reckless few didn’t hold the economy hostage every few months, or waste time on dozens of votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act rather than try to help us fix it,” he said.

Well, golly, Mr. President, think how prepared we might have been to discuss “fixes” if you and the entire White House and HHS hadn’t lied to the American public all year long about the program’s readiness for the October 1st launch.  Think about what we might have been able to do to avoid the cancellation of millions of policies if you hadn’t lied for the last three-plus years by insisting, “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.” Think about what we might have done on real cost-lowering reform had Democrats not shoved an unpopular massive government intervention onto the health-care sector through legislative chicanery in 2010.

Think about what might have happened if we had found out what was in the bill before we passed it.

Anyway, President Pivot, good luck with this latest attempt to use the economy as a subject change away from your failures.  Say, what is the civilian workforce participation rate these days, anyway?  At a new 35-year low after 720,000 people left the workforce in October, I see.

Update: “Participation rate,” not “population rate.” I’ve fixed it above.


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Bmore on November 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Anyway, President Pivot, good luck with this latest attempt to use the economy as a subject change away from your failures.

Increased health care premiums, increased deductibles, increased mandate taxes. Everything about Obamacare is going to suck money out of the economy in 2014.

2014 will be the year of the Obamacare recession, President Pivot.

MichaelGabriel on November 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Think what would have happened IF democrats didn’t “deem the bill as passed” in order to pass the senate with 51 votes.

Obowmacare has been a colossal train wreck just as Obowma has been as the preezy.

dthorny on November 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM

“Hey, Murcans… Now that I’ve destroyed your health care system lemme pivot back on over here to continuing to destroy the economy for you.”

/BHO
mmm mmm mmm

Key West Reader on November 23, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Wake the fruck up America.

Schadenfreude on November 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Increased health care premiums, increased deductibles, increased mandate taxes. Everything about Obamacare is going to suck money out of the economy in 2014.

2014 will be the year of the Obamacare recession, President Pivot.

MichaelGabriel on November 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM

We’re at the unfortunate point where the realistic projection for 2014 achieving 1.7% – 2% GDP growth is going to be optimistic.

What the President fails to learn is that whatever ‘economic growth’ we are experiencing is despite of his Administration’s efforts and policies, not because of them.

Athos on November 23, 2013 at 1:43 PM

The manufactured financial crisis will be portrayed as a demonstration that exchanges based on the assumption that individuals will take responsibility for their own “private” insurance arrangements do not work. It will be time to solve the crisis by a seamless transition — there’s that word again — to a fully socialized health-care system, now overtly controlled by the government. “Free” health care for everyone — with all the substandard treatment, absurd wait times, and rationing that entails — will be supported by a few “tweaks” to our progressive tax system . . . no more unwieldy, unpredictable premium payments.

That’s the scheme. Or maybe you still believe that if you like your private medical system, you can keep your private medical system, period
.

Schadenfreude on November 23, 2013 at 1:44 PM

mmm mmm mmm

Key West Reader on November 23, 2013 at 1:35 PM

They are related, obama’care’ and the economy. The only missing link is amnesty and America is finished as you knew her.

Schadenfreude on November 23, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Your usurpers

Schadenfreude on November 23, 2013 at 1:49 PM

“Let’s distract from my greatest failure by talking about my second greatest failure”

Yeah. That’s a winner.

tom on November 23, 2013 at 1:52 PM

How can Republicans help Democratics convince Americans that a pile of fresh steaming crap is pumpkin pie?

slickwillie2001 on November 23, 2013 at 11:10 AM

That’s the job of the Obamedia(TM)

Key West Reader on November 23, 2013 at 1:57 PM

They are related, obama’care’ and the economy. The only missing link is amnesty and America is finished as you knew her.

Schadenfreude on November 23, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Agreed. I think this is why Reid went nuclear when he did.. they’re getting ready to blow it all up at once – likely just in time for Christmas.

Rat bastiges

Key West Reader on November 23, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Lourdes on November 23, 2013 at 12:07 PM

The only rational being who has NEVER been challenged intellectually, is a mouth breathing moron..

Even the greatest minds have accepted challenges, gladly.. because to be challenged is to learn and grow..

So she in effect is saying, his mind is as solidly closed as a block of concrete.

He doesn’t accept that there are ideas greater than he is..

That…. is a frightening admission.

It means he doesn’t accept limits on what HE wants.. just on what we want.

mark81150 on November 23, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Yes, you’re right again. Jarrett is too dumb — and seems to boast about being too dumb — to realize she’s boasting about a disturbed mind along with revealing herself to be so, too.

No one of “great intelligence” or even intelligence at all is so overconfident about their own, individual “mind” or abilities. If anything, the smarter a person is, the more vulnerable they realize they are. Jarrett boasts about the irrational egoism of a mad mind, not an intelligent one. And she reveals herself to be so pitifully dense in doing so.

Lourdes on November 23, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Jarrett set the meme/narrative early on about Obysmal’s incredible intelligence, and no one in the mainstream media challenged that assessment nor ridiculed the idiocy of some of his pronouncements.

When I hear a Leftist spout about how intelligent Obysmal is, they never can provide an example or two of his incredible off-the-charts smarts.

onlineanalyst on November 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Must be about time for a few rounds of golf,

KMC1 on November 23, 2013 at 2:13 PM

When I hear a Leftist spout about how intelligent Obysmal is, they never can provide an example or two of his incredible off-the-charts smarts.

onlineanalyst on November 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

He was smart enough to get 80% of the high school dropouts to vote for him in 2012. That’s a new record!

Del Dolemonte on November 23, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Physician head of professional physicians’ group was just on FOX advising American people “not to enroll in Obamacare” and to find, if they still can, “catastrophic policies” but otherwise encouraging them to shop for private physicians (members of his group, I didn’t catch the name but it’s some “American Association of Physicians…etc.” sort of thing) who will be offering services for cash, “reasonable fees” he said.

I have only read from a very, very few physicians who were even enthused about OBamacare before it launched and now can’t find any who are — they’re being harmed as much as individuals, their patients or potential patients.

Lourdes on November 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Lourdes: Is this what is called “concierge care”?

I think that many of us would be pleasantly surprised were we to pay out-of-pocket for routine office visits. Insurance should be used for catastrophic care, hospitalizations/surgeries, or maintenance drugs for chronic illnesses.

onlineanalyst on November 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM

If the economy was booming Obama’s approval rating would be at 60% right now, even with Obamacare.

myiq2xu on November 23, 2013 at 10:50 AM

IF the dog hadn’t stopped to pee, he might have caught the rabbit.

Solaratov on November 23, 2013 at 2:28 PM

“Think about what we could do if a reckless few didn’t hold the economy hostage every few months, or waste time on dozens of votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act rather than try to help us fix it,” he said.

When Obama, unilaterally, delayed the employer mandate, the House passed a bill that would give him that authority since the law doesn’t grant it to him. Obama said that he would veto it. The same is true for the Upton bill.

It’s not just the House. Senators Landrieu, Manchin, Udall, Shaheen, and Begich each have introduced separate legislative ‘fixes’ or are in the process of doing so. All of them are Democrats. Harry Reid has refused to allow a vote on any of them and has no plans, at this time, to do so.

Obama claims that Congress refuses to help him ‘fix’ Obamacare, but the real dirty little secret is this: The LAST thing that Obama wants is for Obamacare to be back in Congress where it will be opened up to all sorts of changes. Even if he lacks the authority and his acts are clearly unlawful (see the decision to read the law to permit Federal subsidies to be granted to applicants in states that did not create their own exchanges – the ACA ONLY permits subsidation in STATE-RUN exchanges), Obama would prefer to act unilaterally than let Congress (and Congress, my LIV friends, includes the Senate) start fooling around with his signature achievement.

Resist We Much on November 23, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Everyday…….our nation seems to be fading away…..and not in the positive “Fading West” sort of way.

http://youtu.be/iJ1ynQ46984

Do you ever wake up and think you’re in a Socialist parallel universe?

PappyD61 on November 23, 2013 at 2:30 PM

“Pivoting in Circles: the Obama Presidency”

Arnold Yabenson on November 23, 2013 at 2:31 PM

While Republicans continued on the anti-Obamacare offensive, President Barack Obama largely pivoted away from the troubled rollout of Healthcare.gov, instead focusing his address on the economy

…the SOB can pivot?
……..who knew?

KOOLAID2 on November 23, 2013 at 2:42 PM

When I hear a Leftist spout about how intelligent Obysmal is, they never can provide an example or two of his incredible off-the-charts smarts.

onlineanalyst on November 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

It’s like the guy (Time magazine publisher, maybe?) on the Imus show that said early on that Obama would be “the smartest, highest IQ President in history…”

To which Imus responded, “so, what is his IQ?”

And the f*ckwit that had just made the pronouncement said “I don’t know.”

Um, hello?

Midas on November 23, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Obama: How about we change the subject, mm-kay?

Sure. Let’s talk impeachment.

locomotivebreath1901 on November 23, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Note to President Obama: Until it is repealed (not “fixed”)Obamacare IS the economy.

In no time at all, people will work (those who still do work) in order to pay for food, housing, and health care (but not necessarily in that order). There will be no money for anything else.

Ordinary American on November 23, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I’ve been reading some of the most incredible posts from the professional bloggers here for over 5 years. It just dawned on me how much things have changed. We are in trouble. Our nation is truly threatened. Our freedom is at stake. No one is saying it directly. As a rank amateur, I will. I believe in my heart that, as sad as it makes me to say it, we are headed toward armed defense of our freedoms. There is no other way, unless slavery is accepted. This malignancy we call liberalism, or socialism, or communism – is a cancer. Cancer is in many cases, eventually fatal to its host. And like cancer, when a host is in remission, it relaxes. If the cancer returns, it returns with a vengeance. That is what is happening to our country. The only way to repel it is with extremely aggressive treatment. Sometimes the host perishes because of the treatment. So, the question is, do we risk a treatment that could cure us?

HomeoftheBrave on November 23, 2013 at 3:45 PM

With CNN its always squirrel season. “The Republicans are stuck on obstruction as B moves foward focusing on the economy,”
Harry Reid could start raping and killing babies on the Senate floor (which for all we know is what he’s doing at this moment) and the first repub that spoke up would be cited by CNN as another obstructionist effort by the GOP to not cooperate with their constituents.
We’re losing. To the most vile, evil people. We’re losing. It will get worse. Despots never get nicer.

onomo on November 23, 2013 at 3:52 PM

…the SOB can pivot?
……..who knew?
KOOLAID2 on November 23, 2013 at 2:42 PM

He can pivot just fine……

When Reggie love provides the axis.

……………………………

…the SOB can pivot?
……..who knew?

Typo? His caddie / Secret Service bodyguard says he is the Divot King.

LegendHasIt on November 23, 2013 at 4:06 PM

It’s like the guy (Time magazine publisher, maybe?) on the Imus show that said early on that Obama would be “the smartest, highest IQ President in history…”

To which Imus responded, “so, what is his IQ?”

And the f*ckwit that had just made the pronouncement said “I don’t know.”

Um, hello?

Midas on November 23, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Worse than that, it was Presidential Historian Michael Beschloss.

Kind of degrades everything he’s ever written.

slickwillie2001 on November 23, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Change the subject to this:

A document prepared by the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) and obtained by the Washington Free Beacon maps out a strategy to eliminate an ICBM squadron — and destroy its missile silos — by Dec. 5, 2017.

“Flexibility.”

Akzed on November 23, 2013 at 4:22 PM

And that’s been my top priority since the day I walked into the Oval Office.”

The man is insane. It’s as plain as the nose on our faces. Not the funny uncle in the closet kind of insane, the dangerous kind.

scalleywag on November 23, 2013 at 4:33 PM

We all figured this ploy out a long time ago, but the LIVs need to be informed about the scheme behind the fraud.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/364667/scheme-behind-obamacare-fraud-andrew-c-mccarthy

onlineanalyst on November 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM

HomeoftheBrave on November 23, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Just a pertinent aside but where is commenter coldwarrior lately? Is he under audit by the IRS? being beaten with rubber hoses by the Obysma OFA squads?

onlineanalyst on November 23, 2013 at 4:41 PM

…the SOB can pivot?
……..who knew?

KOOLAID2 on November 23, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Yep, Obysmal’s foot is nailed to the floor of ObysmalCare, and all that he can do is pivot around on the nailed foot.

onlineanalyst on November 23, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Now that we’ve got rid of that filibuster thingy the Senate can solve our economic problems by sending a $1000.00 bribestimulus check to every voterAmerican in October 2014.

Does anyone think the House will vote against it?

kcewa on November 23, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Hey, the economy is just fine.

Schadenfreude on November 23, 2013 at 4:54 PM

When he talks, the sound he emits is interpreted in my mind as:

“Lie, lie. Lie, lie, lie.lie.lie. Lie.”

Is it just me?

DrDeano on November 23, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Investigate, Impeach, Impale.

VorDaj on November 23, 2013 at 5:34 PM

It took years for Bernie Madoff’s scam and fraud to be discovered. It only took two weeks for the Obamacare ponzi scheme to be revealed in all its revolting fraud and flatulence. It’s going to get worse before it gets worse.

Dhuka on November 23, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Poll: If voters had known they’d lose insurance, Romney would have wonhttp://dailycaller.com/2013/11/22/poll-if-voters-had-known-theyd-lose-insurance-romney-would-have-won/
In response, 23 percent said they would not have voted to re-elect Obama,while 72 percent said they would still have voted for him. The largest number of defections were among female voters ages 18-54, 31 percent of whom said they would not have supported the president.

An ABC/Washington Post poll released earlier this week found that if they had a do-over, Romney would win 49 percent to 45 percent.The difference is within the margin of error of 3.5 percentage points, but Obama polls a lower percentage of the vote today than he did in November 2012.

Galt2009 on November 23, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Okay, lets talk about the economy. Why did your census cook the books on unemployment right before the election? More lies?

magicbeans on November 23, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Poll: If voters had known they’d lose insurance, Romney would have won ….

Galt2009 on November 23, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Combine that with the IRS and their treatment of TP groups and Obama would have been toast.

CWchangedhisNicagain on November 23, 2013 at 7:46 PM

We did change the subject :from Benghazi to ObamaCare.

That’s because Benghazi was hurting you politically.

Aren’t you glad we got off the Benghazi dog pile?

SparkPlug on November 23, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Wake the fruck up America.

Schadenfreude on November 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM

They wont. They are too busy ‘getting theirs” before it’s all gone. We are on the cusp of destruction. And my beliefs are that the Savior will soon follow.

csdeven on November 23, 2013 at 9:07 PM

But if you look beyond those headlines, there are some good things happening in our economy. And that’s been my top priority since the day I walked into the Oval Office.

That explains why it’s the slowest economic recover in US history.

Socratease on November 23, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Barky thinks we will be able to have a comprehensive solution to Iran’s nuclear program. This process is being orchestrated by the buffoons who rolled out a failed, half-baked insurance website that is a godsend to identity thieves and an embarrassment to this nation.

What could possibly go wrong?

Philly on November 23, 2013 at 10:41 PM

John Kerry is about as interesting to watch as paint drying. Sheesh, what a stiff.

Philly on November 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

We can’t change the subject dufus, we haven’t even gotten past the Super bowl. No one cares about your brackets yet.

WryTrvllr on November 24, 2013 at 1:24 AM

And my beliefs are that the Savior will soon follow.

csdeven on November 23, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I hope so. America really was the shining city on a hill. The savagery of the world if the West destructs is incomprehensibly fearful.

DrMagnolias on November 24, 2013 at 6:55 AM

I think the Libs really screwed the pooch on this thing!

RonRon on November 24, 2013 at 8:43 AM

Breathtaking. Obama legitimates nuclear option for both Harry Reid and the mullahs.

#audacity

Terp Mole on November 24, 2013 at 10:52 AM

When I hear a Leftist spout about how intelligent Obysmal is, they never can provide an example or two of his incredible off-the-charts smarts.

onlineanalyst on November 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

It’s like the guy (Time magazine publisher, maybe?) on the Imus show that said early on that Obama would be “the smartest, highest IQ President in history…”

To which Imus responded, “so, what is his IQ?”

And the f*ckwit that had just made the pronouncement said “I don’t know.”

Um, hello?

Midas on November 23, 2013 at 3:12 PM

The “smartest, highest IQ President…” WHO HAS TO HIDE HIS ACADEMIC RECORDS.

You don’t hide them if your history reveals superlative achievements. You hide them when they contain issues that the general public would deem to be character embarrassments. Like cheating, being expelled, having a history of “agitating”…

Poor grades can be understood if one’s character and overall contributions balance the failure to be brilliant academically. And anyone who is “self funding” their education will nearly, to a man, reflect lesser academic achievement than those who are well set financially supported by someone else or others. Not excusing, but there are circumstances some people experience that reduce the time students have for academic work, like fulltime jobs, having children, etc.

In Obama’s case, however, he’s hidden his academic records and tried to inflict punishments of one kind or another on any source who raises the issue about these mysterious records of his.

Obama’s not brilliant, he’s conniving. He’s not super-intelligent, he’s snearky. The man’s a snake.

Lourdes on November 24, 2013 at 11:00 AM

“sneaky” not “snearky”…

Obama’s not brilliant, he’s conniving. He’s not super-intelligent, he’s snearky. The man’s a snake.

Lourdes on November 24, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Lourdes on November 24, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Meanwhile in Kentucky……

libfreeordie on November 24, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Meanwhile in the rubble of Detroit…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I79wUEqBdQc

onomo on November 24, 2013 at 11:02 AM

While Republicans continued on the anti-Obamacare offensive, President Barack Obama largely pivoted away from the troubled rollout of Healthcare.gov, instead focusing his address on the economy

…the SOB can pivot?
……..who knew?

KOOLAID2 on November 23, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Obama refers to himself in basketball and football heroic terms, like him “pivoting” and “running with the ball” and “when I have the ball, I…”

It’s such phony hubris. He’s never been an athlete though he fancies himself some sort of pro-jumping fool (he isn’t). It’s the talk of a guy with “size” issues of some sort, the Little Man’s Complex, always needing the big red car (or big loud car) (or small but loud car), etc.

He overcompensates and assumes everyone else is too dumb to notice.

And by “size issues of some sort,” I mean a compromised ego who works to impress others it’s not faulty, etc. Not necessarily physical stature reference just “small” as in “small person” as to character.

Lourdes on November 24, 2013 at 11:04 AM

And that’s been my top priority since the day I walked into the Oval Office.”

The man is insane. It’s as plain as the nose on our faces. Not the funny uncle in the closet kind of insane, the dangerous kind.

scalleywag on November 23, 2013 at 4:33 PM

I completely agree with scalleywag. I do consider Obama to be mentally deranged. Something is quite crazy about him. His mind is not well, his character isn’t, either.

Lourdes on November 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Lourdes on November 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Lourdes: Is this what is called “concierge care”? …

onlineanalyst on November 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Yes but this one fellow who I heard speaking as a guest on Fox News (what I wrote about at 12:29 PM) was a physician who heads a professional physician organization who has recently decided (him, his members of the org.) to NOT participate in Obamacare and to offer their services privately-for-purchase to patients who want their services.

Olde Timey doctoring, so to speak. Some physicians have been doing this all the while in the recent times for private-paying persons but not officially (arranged privately, not advertised, etc.) which would be that “concierge care” you’re referring to — also soliciting former insurance pts. especially under Medicare to pay for physician services privately and to forego Medicare participation.

But this one fellow was announcing a new behavior by licensed, reputable doctors who have decided not to participate in Obamacare (what the fellow was announcing, and his offering of ‘concierge care’ or for-cash visits without insurance involvement was his point).

Lourdes on November 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM

I completely agree with scalleywag. I do consider Obama to be mentally deranged. Something is quite crazy about him. His mind is not well, his character isn’t, either.

Lourdes on November 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM

At least he has an excuse. Diagnose the drone population. Orwellian fans want to know.
Hey B! Look! I just did an Iverson crossover to world peace!
Hey! Come on down dog I got what you need!

onomo on November 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Of all the scandals this administration is experiencing :

Fast and Furious
IRS
Shut Downs
Benghazi

What is the ONE thing that is different with HealthCare.gov?

The administration has no controll over any of the others BUT they have 100% control over Healthcare.

They have effectively pushed all other scandals off the books. Who said it is a very complicated Web site? Surprise surprise it is the same people that said you can keep your policy. The same people that said it was good to go. The same people that said there is no security problems. It is the same people that have consistently lied and misdirected the public at every turn. So why do we believe them when they say it is very complicated?

What if this just a set up to distract us from all other scandals and then in the 11th hour Obama and crew come up with the fix that works. They would have gotten rid of all the other scandals and become super heros to boot. All of which they could have done all along.

I can not put together a Web site like HealthCare.gov but I do know my way around a spreadsheet program. I think it would not take more then a day maybe two to set up the site that would work. Basic all that is being done is you filter through a few levels to get to the chart you need to look at. Here is how it goes.

SERACH: LEVELS:
1. What state are you in? 50
2. What County 3-??? depending on the first question
3. Individual Male, Individual Female
Family, or Small Business 4
4. Individual Insurance Companies charts 1-?? In my state there are 3 companies.
For your state your county and your
circumstances.

The charts will have ages on one side and income on the other. Where they intercet is what you pay. You will have one chart for each insurance company.

Pick what you want and put in your order. 20% up front and 20% each quarter with the final 20 % after you file your tax return.

What is so complicated about all that. The total program and charts can be downloaded on to your computer and would be about 2MB in size.

jpcpt03 on November 24, 2013 at 12:39 PM

SERACH: LEVELS:
1. What state are you in? 50
2. What County 3-??? depending on the first question
3. Individual Male, Individual Female
Family, or Small Business 4
4. Individual Insurance Companies charts 1-?? In my state there are 3 companies.
For your state your county and your
circumstances.

The charts will have ages on one side and income on the other. Where they intercet is what you pay. You will have one chart for each insurance company.

Pick what you want and put in your order. 20% up front and 20% each quarter with the final 20 % after you file your tax return.

What is so complicated about all that. The total program and charts can be downloaded on to your computer and would be about 2MB in size.

jpcpt03 on November 24, 2013 at 12:39 PM

It was the intersect part that they had problems with. Yeah they’re still giving the impression you have that choice and people naturally wanted to browse. Had to shut that part off you see. How hard is it to see you’re totally punished for your success in this dystopia? Yeah, that can’t be shown right now. Masterminding, materminding, yeah need to shut that off for now.
So a family of four that are 3rd generation welfare. Never worked, never intend to,… FREE! whoo Obama! Obama!
Family of four, run a small business, average 200 hrs labor between them each week… What the?!
Now how hard is that?
You’re right that’s the final solution. Way too easy, but you’ve got to rare over the kabuki so they can get to that single payer.

onomo on November 24, 2013 at 12:51 PM

jpcpt03 on November 24, 2013 at 12:39 PM

And when it comes to actual medical treatment allowed, if it isn’t based first and foremost on you color and party affiliation, it will be the absolute only program that hasn’t been run that way from this administration.
How hard was that?

onomo on November 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Meanwhile in Kentucky…….http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/in-rural-kentucky-health-care-debate-takes-back-seat-as-people-sign-up-for-insurance/2013/11/23/449dc6e0-5465-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story_1.html

libfreeordie on November 24, 2013 at 8:20 AM

The article proves only that there is a problem, not that the only possible solution should be Obamacare.

Most of the people signing up ended up in Medicaid, not a private insurance program (close to 80% if you check the article*).

This could have been done without upending the entire medical system in America.

Why didn’t the Democrats do it earlier? Even we “hardhearted” Republicans will sign-on for helping people who genuinely need the help, without forcing most of Americans to lose their plans and doctors.

Every one of these Kentuckians could have received the health care (not just insurance) they needed if the Dems had not deliberately undercut common-sense reforms for decades (just because the media doesn’t print GOP plans doesn’t mean they don’t exist).

Doctors and clinics could operate in rural America the same way they do in third-world countries if the government didn’t generate mountains of unnecessary regulation (some of the regs are needed — see Gosnell et al. — but many increase costs astronomically by mandating against common-sense practices by trained medical personnel).

And even more to the point, the money wasted by Obama alone (not counting all previous administrations and Congresses) on crony payouts (in all areas, not just health) and incompetent implementation could have been spent helping people who needed it.

Not to mention, they would all have benefited from having a working economy, not a total disaster (dating back to FDR and possibly earlier), in which industry and jobs could enable them to care for themselves.

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Places such as Breathitt County, in the Appalachian foothills of eastern Kentucky, are driving the state’s relatively high enrollment figures, which are helping to drive national enrollment figures as the federal health exchange has floundered. In a state where 15 percent of the population, about 640,000 people, are uninsured, 56,422 have signed up for new health-care coverage, with 45,622 of them enrolled in Medicaid and the rest in private health plans, according to figures released by the governor’s office Friday.

PS This is on page 1; libfreeordie links directly to page 2 and skips some of the informative prologue to his “evidence”.

AesopFan on November 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM

To answer my own questions, from page 3 of the Kentucky article:

Kids: five. Salary: about $14,000 before taxes.

“You’re going to qualify for a medical card,” she told Hudson.

“Well, thank God,” Hudson said, laughing. “I believe I’m going to be a Democrat.”

AesopFan on November 24, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Obama has lost Obama.

Akzed on November 23, 2013 at 10:29 AM

It’s lonely at the top. But I’m not sure what it is when you’re not even there.

Tsar of Earth on November 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

There are a lot of…

Think what …

…comments here. All good. I’m not a bumper-sticker person, but I always wanted one saying something like…

Think of Our Prosperity if Our Governmment was not Corrupt

Thread Bait: Can anyone word that such that it will fit on a bumper-sticker?

Tsar of Earth on November 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM

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