New delay: Deadline for ObamaCare enrollment moved back from December 15th to 23rd

posted at 3:21 pm on November 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

They continue to insist that they’re on track for “major improvement” or whatever to the website by November 30th, but if it was as major as they’d hoped, they never would have resorted to this. A little heads up for our twentysomething readers: In case you haven’t decided yet what you’ll be buying with the cash you get for Christmas, good news — Obama and the insurance industry have decided for you.

Wait a sec. I thought the reason they set December 15th as the deadline for enrolling if you want your new coverage to start on New Year’s Day is because it takes insurers at least two weeks to process an application. If they’re now pushing the deadline back a week to give people more time to enroll, that leaves insurers with just eight days to turn applications around — assuming that the applicant info they receive from Healthcare.gov is readable in the first place. How are they going to do that? They’re … not sure:

Asked via email whether this change complicates matters for insurers, Robert Zirkelbach spokesman for the insurance industry group America’s Health Insurance Plans, responded, “It makes it more challenging to process enrollments in time for coverage to begin on January 1. Ultimately it will depend on how many people enroll in those last few days. It is also important to keep in mind that consumers need to pay their first month’s premium before their coverage can begin.”

Did the White House even … consult with the industry about whether they can manage a new deadline of December 23rd? I ask because, according to several reports, Obama didn’t consult with them before announcing last week that he was going to let them un-cancel plans. Some of them, in fact, had spent the days leading up to his White House presser assuring people that there was no way, no how, no chance dead plans would or could be resurrected. I asked Philip Klein, who listened in on CMS’s conference call today, whether anyone brought that up. Ahem:

Oh well. They work for Obama now. Enjoy the new insurance regime you’ve helped create, guys.

If you missed it in Headlines earlier, here’s an AP report quoting tech experts as saying it’ll cost a lot of money to get Healthcare.gov to the point where it really needs to be in terms of handling users. How much money? It’s unclear because, amazing as it may seem, they still haven’t identified all the problems yet. Exit quotation via CMS honcho Henry Chao, in an e-mail to staffers four days before Healthcare.gov went live: “I DO NOT WANT A REPEAT OF WHAT HAPPENED NEAR THE END OF DECEMBER 2005 WHERE MEDICARE.GOV HAD A MELTDOWN.” Actually, it didn’t end up being a repeat; Medicare.gov was fixed relatively quickly. Success!


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I guess Obamacare is a “living” law. It changes every day according to Dear Leader’s needs.

PattyJ on November 22, 2013 at 5:55 PM

How low can they go? More low than you can conceive.

Dhuka on November 22, 2013 at 6:08 PM

One can only think how stupid the American voter is for electing Obama twice. It takes my breath away that he still has a 39% approval rating. Imagine how stupid those people must be!

cajunpatriot on November 22, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Moving goalposts is what Donks do.

The GOP is going to get chumped and chumped again until the 2014 election is in the can.

Count on it.

Bruno Strozek on November 22, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Resist We Much on November 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Without self-restraint, we slip toward barbarism.

Sobering truths. Years ago, I think we started on a downward slide thru the Courts and Government. Little by little the safeguards, thru Family and Schools were removed. Parents against School Districts and Laws, Permissiveness.

I saw it raising my own children. It used to be the Family, Schools and Churches worked together for the good of the children.
Then, the Schools started working against the Families, which of course caused division and allowed the Children to call the shots.

Parents were given the Repsonsibilites for the Children, but the Authority was taken away. The Schools and the Courts now had the Authority. With a system such as this, what is happening now is worse and will continue.

bluefox on November 22, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Chris Christie has the microphone now. If he wants to be the leader of the GOP, He had better start talking now and screaming about this BS. If he doesn’t, he doesn’t deserve anybody’s support. I mean, when is a leader voice needed more than now. I’m not crazy about the guy, but if he came out now and shamed the Dems for this power grab I might like him some. If not, he just another yankee bag of wind

rik on November 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM

If they’re now pushing the deadline back a week to give people more time to enroll, that leaves insurers with just eight days to turn applications around — assuming that the applicant info they receive from Healthcare.gov is readable in the first place. How are they going to do that?

Make the deals on offer, especially for young people, so bad or so expensive that there aren’t many applications to process.

See: it’s all taken care of in advance.

David Blue on November 22, 2013 at 7:24 PM

RWM you are surely a treasure! Please don’t stop!

A government that lies to its own citizens should command no respect. To accord them any is to make oneself complicit in their lies, which is unbecoming to a free people.

lfwest on November 22, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Advice to Republicans, keep your mouth shut, plan your ads now and don’t launch until September 2014. If the American people are really stupid enough to trust the Democrats again, they deserve what they get.

bflat879 on November 22, 2013 at 7:35 PM

♫ You’ll be screwed by Christmas,

…makes no difference when….♫

viking01 on November 22, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Does the extension make a practical difference?

Everyone is going to be doing last minute shopping and prepping for the holidays, not worrying about signing up for Obamacare.

blammm on November 22, 2013 at 8:28 PM

This reminds me of a former boss of mine. A deadline for work would set, an “absolute MUST” with no room for negotiation. Until someone started to whine and complain about the deadline and all their other work. The boss would decide to move the deadline back after giving people crap about it….

Of course, at the end of the day, the work would never get done and the deadline would pass without consequence….

mjk on November 22, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Obamacare, the New Coke Agent Orange.

Tater Salad on November 22, 2013 at 3:39 PM

VorDaj on November 22, 2013 at 8:45 PM

All they have to do now is wait for the inevitable clusterfark, then Ojesus starts loudly slamming the big, bad insurance companies again.

Then, of course, Uncle Sugar and its self-appointed master will HAVE to step in and and save the day with much heroic oratory and …

…Single Payer, FTW!

hillbillyjim on November 22, 2013 at 9:01 PM

He’s black and still covered by Affirmative Action.

slickwillie2001 on November 22, 2013 at 3:50 PM

If only healthcare coverage was as good.

Nutstuyu on November 22, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Well, in all fairness, eight days should be enough time for the insurance companies to process BOTH applicants by 1Jan.14.

;-)

Solaratov on November 22, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Only if it’s eight craaaaazy days.

/Adam Sandler

Nutstuyu on November 22, 2013 at 10:14 PM

The slow bleed is always always worse than getting it all out at once.

The idiots should have just postponed it until next year. Every time they miss a deadline they will have to endure another round of shame. How low is Obama going to go? 30%? 20%? You can get 20% to believe in almost anything.

WisCon on November 22, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Congress sits by and let’s Obama make the law.

Axion on November 23, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Interim fixes until the Final Solution

Rea1ityCheck on November 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM

The liberals ruined my Christmas in 09, I am happy to return the favor.

matthew8787 on November 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Government employees usually take most of December off, which means the serfs–the contractors–will have to work overtime to try to reach this goal. I suppose that provides cover too–when the deadline passes without a significant improvement, the contractors can be blamed.

zoyclem on November 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM

This administration can continue trying, trying, trying to fix this fiasco. It ainta gonna work, period.

MN J on November 23, 2013 at 6:53 PM

There needs to be a massive campaign to impeach king Obama – even Forbes thinks so:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/11/19/obamas-disdain-for-the-constitution-means-we-risk-losing-our-republic/

Chessplayer on November 24, 2013 at 9:40 AM

So now, the Obamacare folks will blame everything on those insurance companies who have no way to make the deadline work. BUT, that also assumes that the exchanges work. The constant, abysmal, disastrous failure of the exchanges will be what saves us.

It will be very iffy for years now, b/c of Obama and his incompetent cronies, but we might get something good from this – then again, politicians…..

MN J on November 24, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Has anyone asked the question on ObamaCare subsidies as to what do they mean by income? Whose income, the applicants, the household. What income: Gross, AGI, taxable, or what?

Dasher on November 24, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Of all the scandals this administration is experiencing :
Fast and Furious
IRS
Shut Downs
Benghazi
What is the ONE thing that is different with HealthCare.gov?
The administration has no control over any of the others BUT they have 100% control over Healthcare.
They have effectively pushed all other scandals off the books. Who said it is a very complicated Web site? Surprise surprise it is the same people that said you can keep your policy. The same people that said it was good to go. The same people that said there is no security problems. It is the same people that have consistently lied and misdirected the public at every turn. So why do we believe them when they say it is very complicated?
What if this is just a set up to distract us from all other scandals and then in the 11th hour Obama and crew come up with the fix that works. They would have gotten rid of all the other scandals and become super heros to boot. All of which they could have done all along.
I can not put together a Web site like HealthCare.gov but I do know my way around a spreadsheet program. I think it would not take more then a day maybe two to set up the site that would work. Basic all that is being done is you filter through a few levels to get to the chart you need to look at. Here is how it goes.
SERACH: LEVELS:

1.What state are you in? 50

2.What County 3-??? depending on the first question

3.Individual Male, Individual Female
Family, or Small Business 4
4.Individual Insurance Companies charts for your state, county and your
circumstances.
1-?? In my state there are 3 companies.
The charts will have ages on one side and income on the other. Where they intercept is what you pay. You will have one chart for each insurance company.
Pick what you want and put in your order. 10% up front and 20% each quarter with the final 30 % if any after you file your tax return. What is so complicated about all that. The total program and charts can be downloaded on to your computer and would be about 2MB in size.

jpcpt03 on November 24, 2013 at 4:44 PM

My Dad claims they’re breaking the law every time they do this.

smoothsailing on November 26, 2013 at 6:55 AM

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