Obama 2005: Ending the filibuster will only make gridlock worse, you know

posted at 5:21 pm on November 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

Nearly everyone’s seen this clip before — O’s opportunistic hypocrisy on judicial appointments is old, old news — but it’s getting a fresh look on Twitter today now that Reid’s dropped the bomb. The lefty spin on this is “Who cares? Both sides change their opinions of the filibuster depending upon whether they have a majority in the Senate or not.” Right, but both sides haven’t actually gone nuclear. The hypocrisy is strictly rhetorical — or was, until today. And the fact is, Senator Obama had a fair point at the time: The more the Senate majority tries to disempower the minority, the more disgruntled and obstructionist the minority will become. Ed and I made that point today ourselves. Even tea-party Republicans in the Senate have granted unanimous consent before in the name of moving the legislative process along when they didn’t have the votes to alter the outcome. That’ll change now to some degree.

Having already weakened the taboo against lowering the 60-vote threshold, O and the Senate Dems will be sorely tempted to extend it to Supreme Court nominees if another vacancy arises before the end of his term. He’s a lame duck so he has nothing to lose by making his next appointee more radical than Sotomayor or Kagan. And Democrats who do have something to lose, like Pryor, Landrieu, and the rest of the red-state caucus, will now be free to vote no without jeopardizing the nominee’s chances of confirmation. Even if Democrats resist the temptation to lower the bar for SCOTUS appointees, it’s a cinch that O’s lower-court appointees will be more radical over the next three years than they otherwise might have been. Which, of course, is a big deal, as it’s the appellate and district court judges who craft most of America’s jurisprudence. He can make the federal judiciary much more liberal before 2016 than he could have before, all the while framing himself as a “moderate” because he and Reid, in their glorious magnanimity, have decided to let Republicans keep the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees.

On the other hand, maybe this is all for the best:

Though the rule’s changes will allow Obama to install a lot of liberal judges and executive officials in the near term, in the long run, ending the judicial filibuster will benefit conservatives.

The reason is that liberals are simply much better at demonizing conservative judicial appointees, even those with sterling credentials. In many cases, this has prompted Republican presidents to choose “stealth” nominees who end up taking an expansive view of the Constitution once they’re on the bench.

Scrapping the 60-vote threshold will make it easier for a future conservative president to choose judges who believe that the Constitution granted limited powers to the federal government.

One other fun fact about O’s egregious hypocrisy between now and then: He claimed in both cases that the Founders supported his position. Watch to the end here and you’ll hear that the Founders didn’t want the Senate’s minority party railroaded into silence. Watch today’s speech and you’ll hear that the Founders never anticipated a Senate minority as obstructionist as the GOP, which I guess means George Washington’s given the green light for railroading. Times change, and evidently the Founders change with them. Exit quotation: “When you start, it’s like wars — there’s no end to this. I don’t know where it goes.”


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ROFL

Nothing better than seeing the earnest senator and POTUS candidate Dog Eater farting this stuff out.

Bishop on November 21, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Aha! You see, he didn’t say “Let me be clear” first, so you know, it doesn’t count.

Robert_Paulson on November 21, 2013 at 5:25 PM

So make his fear come true.

Gridlock until 2014.

TX-96 on November 21, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Is there any reason that NONE of these videos are not made into advertisements?

Ben Hur on November 21, 2013 at 5:26 PM

O’Bozo the Clown President

Jaibones on November 21, 2013 at 5:27 PM

They’re desperate to keep O’LiarCare’s implosion out of the bnews cycle.

Good luck.

Del Dolemonte on November 21, 2013 at 5:27 PM

this is going to give obama a great legacy, he’ll be able to pack the courts now!
-jeff toobin

what he said in 2005 is not the same as what’s been happening now in the senate, so it’s all good
-cnn hack

lsm just fine and dandy with the hypocrisy because the dems did it…

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 5:28 PM

And, This is obviously before the whole “folks” shtick kicked in.

Ben Hur on November 21, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Liar.

RovesChins on November 21, 2013 at 5:29 PM

One other fun fact about O’s egregious hypocrisy between now and then: He claimed in both cases that the Founders supported his position.

Great catch!

With a fair media that hypocrisy would drive a news cycle.

aquaviva on November 21, 2013 at 5:29 PM

While this rule change does not apply to legislation, it will ‘poison the well’ in the Senate. As such, if Republicans are smart, they should make it clear that Democrats can kiss ‘unanimous consent’ goodbye. Make Democrats read every word of every piece of legislation and, if one word is omitted or mispronounced, make them start over. And every time an amendment is added, make them read the entire thing again.

On the bright side for the American people: Democrats will think twice before writing 2,000 page ‘comprehensive’ bills.

Resist We Much on November 21, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Senate Dems will be sorely tempted to extend it to Supreme Court nominees if another vacancy arises before the end of his term

no doubt they will…

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Lying liar of a liar lying. Not surprising when viewing 0′s track record.

Bmore on November 21, 2013 at 5:30 PM

“The gears of government have to work,” Obama said.

Get fluked, you thuggish punk.

You are no more than Mugabe.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2013 at 5:30 PM

I remember those halcyon days when McConnell merely folded under the threat of the nuclear option. Hey Mitch, were you really the only one that didn’t see this coming?

Hey, but at least McCain was there to keep comity in the chamber and those wackobirds quiet.

DanMan on November 21, 2013 at 5:30 PM

still feel eeyorish…the squishy gop will not keep this rule…i can feel it, they way they’ve been talking on the lsm today…

cripe…i feel sick

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Fraudulent Thug in Chief

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM

As he has always said?

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM

he’s just evolving…

/

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM

“The gears of government have to work,” Obama said.

Get fluked, you thuggish punk.

You are no more than Mugabe.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Can you imagine having this haemorrhoid on the anus of Progressivism around for decades after his Presidency is over like Jimmah Cartah?

I can’t write what I am thinking. Banhammer and all that. No, it has nothing whatsoever to do with violence.

Resist We Much on November 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Chuck Todd: Harry Reid Changed Filibuster Rules To Please Dems “Activist Base” Upset Over Obamacare Fiasco…

and it is working for now, all the lib blogs are awash in this and nothing else. Reality waits around the corner though. As Ace mentioned yesterday when it comes to Obamacare Obama is in the certain sweet spot where he can’t go forward with his law without changing it (limited ability there without the house), won’t go back on his signature namesake legislation and certainly can’t stand still as the impacts are mounting.

This is a shiny squirrel.

DanMan on November 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM

DanMan on November 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM

This

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Squirrels…they go home for two weeks and their constituents are mad as hell of obama’care’.

Keep in mind that today the leftist media-whores received rebranding marching orders. It is risible.

They think that the populace is all stupid.

Mark this – thousands will soon die, due to obama’care’. That is when the crap will really hit the rats.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM

The Liar-in-Chief…lies.

Good luck in next year’s mid-terms, Dims.

Meople on November 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM

what’s not to say harry won’t do this for legislation as well in short order?

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM

They think that the populace is all stupid.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM

The ‘Sesame Street’ Presidency

Resist We Much on November 21, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Resist We Much on November 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Fight on and stay away from the hammer :)

HA should hire you, or you should be a pro bono editor, only to evade taxes for the thugs who currently rule.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2013 at 5:40 PM

And to think some close associate of William Bly Jefferson Clinton in attempting to explain to another operative the inner workings of the Boy President drew a box on a piece of paper and with the pen pointed to the figure saying, “There is no ‘THERE’ there.’

The flip-floping of President Asterisk is beyond that troubling description. It is amazing how SHALLOW his thinking process is.

Missilengr on November 21, 2013 at 5:41 PM

His honesty/integrity poll numbers are already in the tank thanks to Obamacare. This is going to have next to zero impact on that.

All Americans now know that he is a liar. Sad to say, but this behavior has now become expected. I don’t think he loses any more credibility with this fiasco, it was already gone.

weaselyone on November 21, 2013 at 5:42 PM

And all the little monsters can sing “The Wheels on the Bus” while we wait.

This needs to be emphasized, how they use Goebbelsian tactics…how they marched Juan Williams, MSNBC and others in today, to fool them about how “mean the ins. companies are” and how the 40 million…

The 40 million is all bullchit. There were about 12 million who had no ins. but were legally treated anyway, paid for by us, before.

Propaganda, please kill all of them, politically. I hate these Goebbelian bastards.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Constitutional professors’ interpretation of the Constitution continues to evolve; tyranny/film at 1100.

BobMbx on November 21, 2013 at 5:44 PM

He looks so stupid back then too.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Harry Reid, NOT a man of his word!

fbcmusicman on November 21, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Gee, what a shock! CNN managed to get their Clinton Groupie “pollsters” to magically keep O’Liar’s job approval above 40%. They couldn’t let him do as badly as he did on that C-BS poll from 2 days ago.

GOEBBELS +

Del Dolemonte on November 21, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Over to you Mitch…

d1carter on November 21, 2013 at 5:49 PM

This is the closest political equivalent to Affirmative Action that I have seen in my lifetime.

We are being told that the nation’s first African American President cannot be held to the same standard as the presidents of the last 200 years. He should only have to get 50 votes instead of 60.

All the presidents from the last 200 years have something in common with each other that Obama does not share, besides race. All of their judicial and cabinet appointments were made with 60 votes in the Senate.

weaselyone on November 21, 2013 at 5:49 PM

and it is working for now, all the lib blogs are awash in this and nothing else. Reality waits around the corner though. As Ace mentioned yesterday when it comes to Obamacare Obama is in the certain sweet spot where he can’t go forward with his law without changing it (limited ability there without the house), won’t go back on his signature namesake legislation and certainly can’t stand still as the impacts are mounting.

This is a shiny squirrel.

DanMan on November 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Obamacare? What’s that? Oh, you mean the ACA. I would love to see a Dem vs a ‘Pub and have them each use opposing terms. So funny.

HiJack on November 21, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Is there any reason that NONE of these videos are not made into advertisements?

Ben Hur on November 21, 2013 at 5:26 PM

This won’t register with the LIVs and the true Independents. On the other hand we have miles of footage on “you can keep your doctor” and other blatant lies from the REB. Health Insurance IS personal.

slickwillie2001 on November 21, 2013 at 5:50 PM

This is a shiny squirrel.

DanMan on November 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Let’s hope that they end up like this squirrel…

Pic of the Day: The Ultimate ‘Squirrel!’

Resist We Much on November 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Over to you Mitch…

d1carter on November 21, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Actually, I see the House in stronger opposition now.

HiJack on November 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Oh goody. Get ready to see Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright and Rashid Khalidi on the federal bench.

TarheelBen on November 21, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Reid’s timing was brought on by the ObamaCare debacle. Dear Leader will do whatever is necessary, legal or otherwise to win.
According to Juan Williams who got a chance to kiss Dear Leader’s ring today, said the WH is getting ready to fight.

d1carter on November 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Actually, I see the House in stronger opposition now.

HiJack on November 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Exactly. I see this as a galvanizing factor for the House. Obviously Reid and the Senate can’t be trusted to even go by their most long-standing rules. The House shouldn’t leave ANYTHING up to the Senate, at all.

Meople on November 21, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Obamacare? What’s that? Oh, you mean the ACA. I would love to see a Dem vs a ‘Pub and have them each use opposing terms. So funny.

HiJack on November 21, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Why don’t Dems want to remind people that Obama is behind the ACA? He’s a lightworker. He’s the greatest President never…nay, the greatest human being ever. Shouldn’t they be shouting his name from the rooftops?

Good Solid B-Plus on November 21, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Let’s hope that they end up like this squirrel…

Pic of the Day: The Ultimate ‘Squirrel!’

Resist We Much on November 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM

OMG!

aquaviva on November 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM

So, we’re just writing off the Senate..?

d1carter on November 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Mitch has a lot of tools he can use to make life miserable in the Senate. He better earn the obstructionism title…

d1carter on November 21, 2013 at 5:59 PM

So, we’re just writing off the Senate..?

d1carter on November 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Until this time next year, yep. The Senate should be quarantined entirely. Obviously they can’t handle even adhering to their own rules.

Meople on November 21, 2013 at 6:02 PM

On the other hand, maybe this is all for the best:

-Allahpundit

Assuming the filibuster isn’t reinstated of course. The Democrats love double standards. They campaign on double standards.

gwelf on November 21, 2013 at 6:02 PM

First words out of Mark Levin’s mouth: “This nation is in grave jeopardy.” I agree, Mark.

TarheelBen on November 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Screeching halt.

Bmore on November 21, 2013 at 6:10 PM

The filibuster is far from a “procedural gimmick.” It is part of the fabric of this institution. It was well known in colonial legislatures, and it is an integral part of our country’s 217 years of history.

The first filibuster in the U.S. Congress happened in 1790. It was used by lawmakers from Virginia and South Carolina who were trying to prevent Philadelphia from hosting the first Congress.
Since 1790, the filibuster has been employed hundreds and hundreds of times.

Senators have used it to stand up to popular presidents. To block legislation. And yes – even to stall executive nominees.

The roots of the filibuster can be found in the Constitution and in the Senate rules.

And it is very much in keeping with the spirit of the government established by the Framers of our Constitution: Limited Government…Separation of Powers…Checks and Balances.

Mr. President, the filibuster is a critical tool in keeping the majority in check. This central fact has been acknowledged and even praised by Senators from both parties.

- Senator Harry Reid, 18 May 2005

More text, and video, here.

Resist We Much on November 21, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Chuck Todd: Harry Reid Changed Filibuster Rules To Please Dems “Activist Base” Upset Over Obamacare Fiasco…

Resist We Much on November 21, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Which now comprises maybe 10-12% of the population?

So Obama and Reid are willing to piss off all the independents and the democrats who don’t want to go the full bore socialist route? And don’t forget – maybe those RINO’s will understand what the hell we have been saying!

redguy on November 21, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Oh goody. Get ready to see Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright and Rashid Khalidi on the federal bench.

TarheelBen on November 21, 2013 at 5:52 PM

If they did walk into the chamber – they sure as hell won’t be walking out.

redguy on November 21, 2013 at 6:14 PM

According to Juan Williams who got a chance to kiss Dear Leader’s ring today, said the WH is getting ready to fight.

d1carter on November 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Obama, his socialist party, and their media have used every tool, trick, and lie under the sun to fight for Obamacare but yet they failed very miserably on every level… They have no tool left to win the Obamacare war, it is over for them…

mnjg on November 21, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Harry Reid, NOT a man of his word!

fbcmusicman on November 21, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Communists’s never are….

Obama was not a “Community Organizer”…..

He was a “Communist Organizer”…..

Can you hear me now????

redguy on November 21, 2013 at 6:16 PM

F*ck Obama & his Fascist Goons!

workingclass artist on November 21, 2013 at 6:17 PM

MARK LEVIN: “This is flat out tyranny. TYRANNY. Does anybody give a damn? Apparently not.”

TarheelBen on November 21, 2013 at 6:20 PM

I love seeing these types of things but really, he could have said this yesterday and it’s wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference.

BigWyo on November 21, 2013 at 6:28 PM

“The filibuster is the last defense of reason, the sole defense of minorities.”

- Sen. Lyndon Johnson, 1949 (and, no, LBJ wasn’t talking about racial minorities as he made this statement while filibustering a civil rights bill)

“The Founding Fathers established filibuster as means of protecting minority from the tyranny of the majority.”

– Sen. Barack Obama, 2005

Resist We Much on November 21, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Let’s hope that they end up like this squirrel…

Pic of the Day: The Ultimate ‘Squirrel!’

Resist We Much on November 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM

That really made me laugh. Thanks to you and Mean Ol’ Katy, I needed that!

Naturally Curly on November 21, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Jeebus ….. what a tool

roflmfao

donabernathy on November 21, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Even if Democrats resist the temptation to lower the bar for SCOTUS appointees, it’s a cinch that O’s lower-court appointees will be more radical over the next three years than they otherwise might have been.

Most likely Obama will make radical appointments to lower courts in the next ONE year. But if voters throw Dem bums out of the Senate next November over Obamacare, we’ll get judicial gridlock in 2015-16.

Steve Z on November 21, 2013 at 6:57 PM

THE SHORT BUS HAS ARRIVED! Get your helmet Barry

roflmmfao

donabernathy on November 21, 2013 at 7:02 PM

He was a lying, baby killing, jerk then and nothing has changed.

crosshugger on November 21, 2013 at 7:10 PM

If only Obama’s father had been white, too, we wouldn’t have had to suffer the disaster of this “payback time for whitey” assclown in power as our own version of Baby Doc Barack.

He would have been as viable as Dan Quayle for President.

A tyro doofus incompetent poseur dawdling in the state Senate, at best.

profitsbeard on November 22, 2013 at 2:04 AM

So now the dems are

changing the LAW OF THE LAND

so the LAW OF THE LAND is expendible to dems

its only a LAW OF THE LAND for laws the dems want to keep

well DEMS you want to play that game

NOVEMBER 2014 IS GOING TO BE PAYBACK time you guys so get ready.

sniffles1999 on November 22, 2013 at 9:35 AM