CNN poll: Obama’s job approval hits new low at 41%

posted at 7:21 pm on November 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

Not much data here, but Ed’s had all the fun lately with national polls showing O’s approval rating crashing through the basement. I’m grabbing this one.

An interesting detail in the numbers: It’s not O-Care that spurred the crash, it’s the double whammy of the IRS scandal and Snowden’s revelations about the NSA over the summer that did it. That drove him down to what appeared to be a floor of 44 percent or so. Then ObamaCare launched and it turned out that wasn’t the floor after all.

“The drop in Obama’s approval rating comes entirely among suburbanites,” said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Compared to the October CNN poll, positive views of Obama held steady among people who live in big cities and rural areas. But in the suburbs, his approval rating was 45% a month ago but has dropped to just 37% now.”

The President’s overall job approval rating is down three points since mid-October after being stuck in the mid-40s for several months in CNN polling. But it’s worth noting that Obama’s woes did not begin with the disastrous launch of the HealthCare.gov website in October, Holland pointed out.

“The real damage came in June, when reports about NSA spying and IRS treatment of conservative groups caused an eight-point drop in his approval rating – a far more significant change than what the numbers from October suggest,” he said.

Look closely at the crosstabs and you’ll see that CNN found virtually no slippage in his approval between late September and mid-October. He held steady at 44 percent between 9/29 and 10/20. That’s significant because, in the interim, the shutdown had come and gone and Healthcare.gov had been rolled out to disastrous results. Why, a month later, has his rating finally slipped further? Could be that the endless repair job on the website has caused people to lose patience, but my guess is that it’s the Big Lie, not Healthcare.gov, that finally broke through the floor. The website is evidence of incompetence but voters had already accepted some degree of that from O. What many of them hadn’t accepted until recently is that he can be quite the egregious liar when he’s trying to get something passed. You see a similar trend in RCP’s poll average of his job approval. He’s basically flat from the beginning of October until the very end, throughout the shutdown and Healthcare.gov’s debut, and then as the media pays more attention to his “if you like your plan” deception in November, the lines start to move:

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His net approval on October 30th was -7.7. Today it’s nearly double at -15. For some voters, the trust is gone. That’s why there’s a new floor and that’s why his favorable rating, not just his approval rating, has begun crashing too.

The fact that he’s fading with suburbanites seems significant too. Urban areas are mostly Democratic and rural areas are mostly Republican, so their respective takes on O are baked in the cake. Suburbanites are more of a swing group; Romney won them last year according to the national exit polls, but only very narrowly at 50/48. If Obama’s now at 37 percent among that group, Democrats on the Hill must be reaching for their sick bags. On the other hand, there are some demographics that will answer the bell for O no matter how badly he and his new health-care boondoggle attempt to screw them. Check out his job approval among adults aged 18 to 34:

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Here’s what happens when you ask people whether they’d prefer to see Obama or congressional Republicans have more influence over the direction America takes next year. Another big skew among young’uns:

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Like I said the other day about the ABC/WaPo poll, I can understand his job approval being unusually high among the poor and lower middle class, as it is here — they’re the ones who are lined up for ObamaCare subsidies, after all — but I can’t understand why young adults continue to give him higher marks than everyone else. “Young healthies” are ObamaCare’s biggest losers, which is par for the course for O: When it comes to some segment of the population being hosed by his policies, the young are usually the go-to fall guys. On the other hand, that’s one honking big margin of error at 8.5 percent. He’s probably not doing quite as well with young adults as 51/44, although it seems like a safe bet that he’s still a bit more highly rated by them than the rest of the population. If they ever abandon him, though, look out. Who knows how low the next floor will be.


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crickets from wolfie…too busy praising the dems on their nuclear bomb….

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 7:22 PM

CNN poll: Obama’s job approval hits new low at 41%

Embrace the suck, Barry. It’s aallll yours.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 21, 2013 at 7:22 PM

41% still favor him???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlDo-T5rHLk

itsnotaboutme on November 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

CNN is running out of Democrats to poll.

22044 on November 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

If they ever abandon him, though, look out. Who knows how low the next floor will be.

Will probably happen if we can ever catch him on camera pronouncing Nuclear “Nook-yoo-lar”.

Robert_Paulson on November 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

If it wasn’t for the media helping him, he would be in the low 30s.

albill on November 21, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Shocked, I am… this so unexpected

Ugly on November 21, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Yeah but the RINO hurd in Congress loves their King 100%…..

redguy on November 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

*this is

I hate my fingers.

Ugly on November 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

22044 on November 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Good evening,22044. :)

Don’t worry… they’ll just invent more.

thatsafactjack on November 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

More cowbell

More squirrels
More speeches

fogw on November 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

The House needs to defund the courts in DC.

redguy on November 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

“REVERSE!”

Del Dolemonte on November 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Will probably happen if we can ever catch him on camera pronouncing Nuclear “Nook-yoo-lar”.

Robert_Paulson on November 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

57 states ain’t enough?

Ugly on November 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM

heh…

“In The Price of Politics Bob Woodward writes about a CEO who says at the Obama White House “we talk to people we wouldn’t hire.”
Andrew Stiles reported at National Review:

Larry Summers, former head of the National Economic Council, thought having Jarrett represent the White House was a mistake. Business leaders “felt patronized and offended by Valerie,” Summers told Woodward, largely due to her tendency to insist that she spoke for the president, and an approach to problem-solving that involved little more than scheduling multiple lunch meetings. One CEO complained to Alter that “when we go to the White House, we talk to people we wouldn’t hire.” Alter himself has likened Jarrett’s role in the White House to “the CEO putting his sister in charge of marketing.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/ceo-when-we-go-to-the-white-house-we-talk-to-people-we-wouldnt-hire/

workingclass artist on November 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM

but I can’t understand why young adults continue to give him higher marks than everyone else.

It’s the group that is also least likely to pay attention to politics and national news. Part of that invincible mentality.

thatsafactjack on November 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM

thatsafactjack on November 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Evening Jackie, nice to see you again. :)

22044 on November 21, 2013 at 7:34 PM

thatsafactjack on November 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM

The Knock Out Game, gen.

bazil9 on November 21, 2013 at 7:35 PM

“Democrat Carville: Blame Obama, Not Republicans for O-Care…”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/

workingclass artist on November 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM

I can’t understand why young adults continue to give him higher marks than everyone else. “Young healthies” are ObamaCare’s biggest losers

Most of them haven’t either tried to check out the web site or it crashed on them before they saw the sticker shock. And, most of them are LIVs anyway. But, at some point soon, the reality of O-Care will catch up with them and they will bail on Captain 404 faster than Miley can twerk.

TXUS on November 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM

What they need to do is recalibrate the polling to account for the growing stupidity of the populace.

Reasonable people love Obama and see his wisdom and, therefore, approve of him. Unreasonable people, motivated by racism and religion, shouldn’t count as much, perhaps by half.

61% approval is more “fair”.

hisfrogness on November 21, 2013 at 7:37 PM

You are over analyzing the poll… Bottom line Obama is in a very bad shape and it not going to get better…

mnjg on November 21, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Their still on their parents benes.

bazil9 on November 21, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Oh please. It’s lower than 41.

TX-96 on November 21, 2013 at 7:38 PM

If you time it right you can use the flames from Obama’s previous self-immolation to pop your popcorn to munch on during his next self-immolation.

It’s truly astonishing to watch a man whose administration has been a giant dumpster fire call for more gasoline.

alchemist19 on November 21, 2013 at 7:39 PM

You are over analyzing the poll… Bottom line Obama is in a very bad shape and it is not going to get better…

mnjg on November 21, 2013 at 7:39 PM

So 6% who are leeches still don’t like him?

Man, that’s gotta suck.

lorien1973 on November 21, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Pity…

“Democratic Staffers Pretty Upset That ObamaCare is Going To Cost Them Money…

he feel good story of the day…

The lamentations of big government supporters having to deal with the consequences of their choices just like the little people do.

In a shock to the system, the older staff in my office (folks over 59) have now found out their personal health insurance costs (even with the government contribution) have gone up 3-4 times what they were paying before,” Minh Ta, chief of staff to Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.), wrote to fellow Democratic chiefs of staff in an email message obtained by POLITICO. “Simply unacceptable.”

In the email, Ta noted that older congressional staffs may leave their jobs because of the change to their health insurance.

Ok, bye-bye then. Good luck finding a new job.

FTR-Congresswoman Moore voted for the ACA and opposed the Upton measure to let people keep their plans….”

Drew M ASHQ

http://ace.mu.nu/

workingclass artist on November 21, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Couldn’t have happened to a better man.

GOPRanknFile on November 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM

workingclass artist on November 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Obama and his staff cannot be hired to clean the toilets let alone run the mightiest nation on the planet… It is really insulting that productive and smart people like CEO’s of large companies have to even deal with these most incompetent fools…

mnjg on November 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM

I can’t understand why young adults continue to give him higher marks than everyone else. “Young healthies” are ObamaCare’s biggest losers

Most of them haven’t either tried to check out the web site or it crashed on them before they saw the sticker shock. And, most of them are LIVs anyway. But, at some point soon, the reality of O-Care will catch up with them and they will bail on Captain 404 faster than Miley can twerk.

TXUS on November 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM

From the green room
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2013/11/21/dailykos-diarist-wait-obamacare-is-hurting-students-at-my-ivy-league-school/

workingclass artist on November 21, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Young Healthies = Low Information Voters

HellCat on November 21, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Big deal. He’s packing the courts with Marxists in black robes and will rule by fiat for the next 3 years.

Rixon on November 21, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Hey, lets flirt with amnesty while Obama’s numbers are down.

El_Terrible on November 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy…./

Electrongod on November 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Most of those young kids don’t pay attention to the news. Until something directly impacts them, they don’t know it exists.

Ask them after they lose part of their tax return due to the fine/tax.

ButterflyDragon on November 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM

[H]istory suggests that artificial, liquidity driven, market inflations always end poorly. The problem today is that the Federal Reserve continues to operate under the premise that increasing the “wealth effect” will ultimately lead to a return of consumer confidence and a fostering of economic growth? Currently, there is little real evidence to support that theory.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-21/guest-post-qes-economic-miss-future-valuation-overshoot

davidk on November 21, 2013 at 8:08 PM

That’s why the Iowa State Patrol is now experimenting with the latest gadget aimed at reducing the number of pursuits. It’s a mini air cannon that mounts on the patrol car’s push bar. It fires a GPS device that’s designed to stick to the back of the fleeing vehicle. The officer can then lay back at a safe speed and distance and track the suspect by satellite.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/11/21/iowa-state-patrol-testing-gps-cannons/?intcmp=latestnews

davidk on November 21, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Obama’s popularity is re-entering the atmosphere… and parts are starting to fall off.

That 18-34 demo is next: they are the young healthies and about to either get socked with insurance or hit with a tax for not having it. Check that demo after 15 APR 2014.

At this point he can collapse still further now that women are deserting him and the young healthies are about to get hit with a half-frozen cod fish across the face. Then he will be stuck with the Far Left and the Hard Left as the Center Left and Moderate Left and everyday ordinary Leftists start to walk out.

Fluke’s Freebies will soon have a real price tag attached to them, and then they won’t be that ‘free’ any more. And when you are tossing in a few hundred for insurance or seeing 1% of what you earn go away to Obamacare, and getting $10 of birth control, they may no longer seem like a ‘bargain’.

ajacksonian on November 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Et tu NY times

from today’s crossword puzzle
53 Down 5 letters

“President whose initials stink”

oznerola on November 21, 2013 at 8:25 PM

If they ever abandon him, though, look out. Who knows how low the next floor will be.

Wait until the ‘young healthies’ finally sign up for ObamaCare and get the bill. OR get tabbed with the “tax” for not signing up. That will come next April 15th.

GarandFan on November 21, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Oh, goodie!!! His approval is up from the 37% from the CBS poll !!! (high fives)

/Obamabot

Steve Z on November 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM

And that 18-34 group also have Thanksgiving dinner to look forward to.

How many of them will be told to stuff their politics this year and keep it stuffed if they want to remain as part of the family?

And for those under 26 they just might find out that when employers go to employee only plans or drop hours to 29, that they are suddenly on their own. Yeah, this year there is going to be a different sort of conversation around the table, but it won’t be one that Michelle would like.

ajacksonian on November 21, 2013 at 8:42 PM

30%! approval among Whites
64% with non-Whites

SouthernGent on November 21, 2013 at 8:44 PM

If they ever abandon him, though, look out. Who knows how low the Check out his job approval among adults aged 18 to 34.

I can’t understand why young adults continue to give him higher marks than everyone else.

Check the makeup of “young adults” now. Only 60% white.

HitNRun on November 21, 2013 at 9:15 PM

CNN is running out of Democrats to poll.

22044 on November 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

If this keeps up, CNN will have to screen the respondents first to find if they approve of Obama before they ask them if they approve of Obama.

slickwillie2001 on November 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

“Young invincibles” mostly don’t even know what’s going to happen to them yet. I will bet you any amount of money that’s the problem. What negative information they have heard of Obamacare they’ll brush off as lies. They haven’t been fined yet; I bet they haven’t even looked at the website. Wait until the hammer falls on them.

Zoomie on November 21, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Just imagine the numbers without the MSM tongue bath.

RedNewEnglander on November 21, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Subtract 12 points for the skewed sample.

dogsoldier on November 22, 2013 at 8:35 AM