Boehner to amnesty fans: No way are we done with immigration reform

posted at 4:01 pm on November 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

Empty rhetoric from a Speaker caught off guard by a question at today’s presser? Not exactly. Andrew Stiles passes along this tidbit from Politico:

I told you last week — just because Boehner’s doing a little pandering to righties lately by ruling out a conference on Rubio’s Gang of Eight bill doesn’t mean he’s ruled out immigration reform entirely. Just ask his friend Jeb:

“I think there will be bills passed,” Bush said at a talk at 92nd Street Y in New York City. “It won’t be one comprehensive bill. I think it will probably be in late spring, where there’s a little bit of a window before the election starts in earnest. I hope so, I hope that’s the case. I’ve talked to Speaker Boehner and he’s totally committed to this, but he needs to find a way to get enough of the support.”

The name of the game for Boehner, as usual, is passing reform incrementally, via piecemeal legislation, rather than in one leviathan bill that covers border security, visas, and citizenship in a single pop. That’s easier to sell to conservatives because, in theory, it means security can and will be dealt with before Congress takes up the issue of legalization. In that case, though, how come Democrats like Obama and even Nancy Pelosi are also suddenly talking up the piecemeal approach? This is their way of signaling to Boehner that they’re willing to give him some political cover on the process so long as they get the right result. Pass a border security bill and a separate legalization bill that guarantees illegals can have legal status independent of whether security’s being improved and they’re fine with that. The key is quick, unconditional (or barely conditional) legalization. You could, I’m sure, split the Gang of Eight bill up into separate components and pass those individually. Would that make Schumer’s and Rubio’s plan any more palatable to righties?

Honestly, I’m so weary of this game-playing that I’d almost rather they hurry up and pass something, bad though it’s almost certain to be. The endless two-step pandering, first showing a little leg to conservatives and then to amnesty fans and Latino voters, is tiresome. They can’t move on it now or else they’ll draw media attention from the ObamaCare meltdown, but in the spring, after the health-care ruckus has quieted down a little, maybe it’s better that they go ahead and bite the bullet already. It’s going to happen sooner or later; they’re not going to go to the polls in 2016 without having done something to show Latinos that the party’s remade itself to some degree on this issue at least. Let’s get on with it. RINOs for the win.

Two clips for you here, one of Boehner and the other via the Examiner of amnesty fans descending upon Eric Cantor’s home. Not his office. His home.



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What a country!

jake-the-goose on November 21, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Amen!!! I find that no two people agree on everything not matter how similar they are in their beliefs. We all bring our own set of experiences to the discussion. Sometimes I will wander onto other sites just to annoy the liberals. Cheap laughs.

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2013 at 7:15 PM

workingclass artist on November 21, 2013 at 7:06 PM

I swear there are people who will benefit from the situation no matter how it plays out. Heads they win, tails they win. The only losers are law abiding citizens and the immigrants. But they still decided to break the law.

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2013 at 7:17 PM

I think I now see the darkness at the end of the tunnel.
Resistance is futile.

I’d like to shake the crap out of these people.

Someone please cheer me up.

seesalrun2 on November 21, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Sometimes I will wander onto other sites just to annoy the liberals. Cheap laughs.

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Great stuff

jake-the-goose on November 21, 2013 at 7:18 PM

The Rubios will cheer
The Mccains will shout
The third worlders of America will all turn out!

VorDaj on November 21, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Boehner to amnesty fans: No way are we done with immigration reform

Oh, just stay out of it. You guys in the GOP will just make it 10 times worse because the Dims will point out for years to come how you were such a big help in legalizing criminal aliens who have no respect for our laws.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Honestly, I’m so weary of this game-playing that I’d almost rather they hurry up and pass something, bad though it’s almost certain to be. The endless two-step pandering, first showing a little leg to conservatives and then to amnesty fans and Latino voters, is tiresome.

Shame on you, AP!!

Read the damn poll one more time: attrition through enforcement, NOT AMNESTY, is a political winner:


http://www.jmisys.com/immigrationmarches/zogby5.html

The GOP elite is appealing to the 54% of Hispanics who are already Democrats (and LOSING their base) instead of appealing to the 40% of Hispanics who want law enforcement (and KEEPING their base). They are taking political advice from Chuckie Schumer!!! DUH!

ANY form of amnesty/forgiveness/pathway/blah blah blah is a REWARD of the ill-gotten gains (residency) to those who have stolen it.

And don’t tell me attrition doesn’t work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxe1WO27B_I

fred5678 on November 21, 2013 at 7:27 PM

When amnesty for invaders comes to the senate floor again
The Chamber of Commerce will give its pushers even more cash then
The democrats will cheer, and Rubio and McCain will shout
Everyone at La Raza and CAIR, will all turn out

The Wall Street Journal and the Bushes will peal with joy
To welcome every American worker replacing serf girl and boy
The greedy bastards will a big welcome say
And with even more welfare they will strew the way

VorDaj on November 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Someone please cheer me up.

seesalrun2 on November 21, 2013 at 7:18 PM

*opens his mouth as if to say something cheery*

Yeah, I got nothing.

*thinks*

Ooh – at least the GOP won’t be around very much longer!

Midas on November 21, 2013 at 7:57 PM

So….what have I missed?

Bmore on November 21, 2013 at 6:20 PM

I was going to ask the same question. Did you get an answer:-)

bluefox on November 21, 2013 at 8:06 PM

If the Republican lead House passes any bill that legalizes illegals in any way, without first a completed fence from one border to the other, I will not only not for those candidates, I will not vote for a single Republican on any ballot in 2014 and 2016.

I am one of those crazy Republicans that doesn’t always vote for the Republican in Presidential races. You want to see a low turnout, just do this. I also will try and help form a 3rd party of some sort.

KMav on November 21, 2013 at 8:25 PM

If there is anyway for the Republicans to pull the Democrat’s chestnuts out of the fire, the Republican leadership will do it. Before there’s any kind of immigration reform, there has to be absolute adherence to exsisting laws first.

savage24 on November 21, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Get fluked yo azzhole.

Schadenfreude on November 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Thanks again for bringing up the super SLUT that’s been irrelevant since March 2012.

cableguy615 on November 21, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Well, I see I’ve missed 4 pages, so there is that.

What is Boehner going to do on Amnesty? Well, his boy Ryan has the legislation all ready to go I hear since he’s been working on it behind closed doors for weeks.

Jebbie has been talking to John boy (plus everyone else that has any power) Oh, btw, Jebbie says he’s a Conservative. I was relieved since he didn’t say “severly”.

The problem I see with this Amnesty and those calling for piece meal is that eventually they will go to conference and we’ll have the Senate bill. Boehner and his gang all know this.

bluefox on November 21, 2013 at 8:54 PM

I read the Senate Immigration so called bill once, but can’t remember all of it.

However, IIRC they included Amnesty for the Illegals already here and then made provisions for Legal Immigration. From what I recall there were too many loopholes in it as passed.

If intelligent heads don’t prevail in whatever the House plans on doing, we will wind up with an Obamacare bill.

These are two separate issues and should be treated that way.

bluefox on November 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Speaking of idiot GOP Speaker of the House-es:

Boehner signed up, somewhat publicly for 0bamasurance today; Sez it took a while, but he is successfully enrolled.

Any doubts now that this guy is both stupid as hell AND a traitor to the people who elected him.

LegendHasIt on November 21, 2013 at 10:27 PM

I’d like to shake the crap out of these people.

Someone please cheer me up.

seesalrun2 on November 21, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Many others feel the same. The day is coming when they will be shaken.

rrpjr on November 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM

I mean, it was dead, and stupid Boehner comes in and gives the democrats a flicker of hope.
RovesChins on November 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Give him a break. He’s a RINO. That’s not only his job, but his life purpose.

rrpjr on November 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Honestly, I’m so weary of this game-playing that I’d almost rather they hurry up and pass something, bad though it’s almost certain to be.

Of course you feel that way AP, but it’s because you’re an amnesty supporter and not a border hawk as you otherwise claim. You’re no different on this issue than McCain.

njrob on November 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Cantors house attacked by Hispanic leftie AstroTurf thugs……gop caves.

HELLLLLLLLO MOB RULE!!!!

Welcome to ObamaZuela……next will the GodKing declare Best Buy to be charging too much for their LED televisions?

PappyD61 on November 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Amnesty is a turbo-charger for non-white mass immigration. I say “non-white” because that is the real issue, not the supposed benefits to the economy. The people who push amnesty do so regardless of whether the economy is booming or tanking, and whether unemployment is high or low. So it has nothing to do with the economy. It’s about race – and the people pushing it implicitly admit that every time they intimidate opponents with the threat of calling them “racist”. Which they do all the time.

David Blue on November 21, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Cantors house attacked by Hispanic leftie AstroTurf thugs……gop caves.

HELLLLLLLLO MOB RULE!!!!

Welcome to ObamaZuela……next will the GodKing declare Best Buy to be charging too much for their LED televisions?

PappyD61 on November 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Favorite tactic of the Democratics, go to their home and terrify the wife and kids.

slickwillie2001 on November 21, 2013 at 11:17 PM

The solution to this race problem is for non-whites to flood into white countries, and for the whites to be forced to assimilate.

Suppose “multiculturalists” were pushing mass non-black immigration into every black country and only black countries, and demanding the blacks “assimilate” with non-blacks. What sane black man wouldn’t object to that? Because the aim of the policy would be ending blacks. That’s genocide.

Yet this is what’s happening to whites, including in America, and whites who don’t like it are always on the defensive out of fear of being called “racist”.

David Blue on November 21, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Many others feel the same. The day is coming when they will be shaken.

rrpjr on November 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM

May it happen speedily, in our own day.

David Blue on November 21, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Talk all you want Boehner, just don’t do anything.
(at least we know he can do that)

virgo on November 22, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Try not to be stupid, mmmkay?

Boehner is teasing, trying to attract pro-immigration reform independents and not change the media coverage by ticking off Hispanics.

As a practical matter, there isn’t time to mark up a bill and pass it in the session. And Republicans wouldn’t want to make any news at all as long as the big stories continue to be the crash and burn of ObamaCare.

Reid is going to force McConnell to shut down the Senate to stop those leftist nominees for the DC Circuit, which doesn’t need the vacancies filled due to low workload, to make it a 5-4 Democratic appointee majority and uphold Obama’s trespassing regulations. I hope he does.

No unanimous consent on ANYTHING. Including adjournment or saluting the student visitor of the day. Drag EVERYTHING out, tell Reid to suck on it, Skippy!

Adjoran on November 22, 2013 at 5:30 AM

Two clips ….. and the other via the Examiner of amnesty fans descending upon Eric Cantor’s home. Not his office. His home.

These people are despicable and shameless. Arrest them for trespassing. What does Cantor say now?

I’d like to know how much the “protesters” were paid.

conservative pilgrim on November 22, 2013 at 7:33 AM

Boehner to amnesty fans: No way are we done with immigration reform

Well, John, I think the party base is just about through with you.

zoyclem on November 22, 2013 at 7:43 AM

How much did they pay him? How much did they know about him that he must keep silent?
Fire the GOP! There is no alternative to these professional scoundrels who would steal our liberty.

Don L on November 22, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM

I hear you – with one caveat.
at these messe are cre
Our immigration laws have been added to, and modified, almost 1100 times since 9/11.

They are a shambles – no one can understand them – no one can possibly enforce them – loop holes – black holes – no holes – they are a complete mess.

Immigration reform is desperately needed – it’s like so many issues – the Right is incapable of explaining why, what, or how.

jake-the-goose on November 21, 2013 at 4:23 PM

The way I see it is that these messes are created by lawyers for lawyers–it is their very lifeblood to find wealth in the messes other legislative lawyers make for lucrative rewards.

Don L on November 22, 2013 at 7:57 AM

I’ll say it again, Every Rep that voted to keep Boehner as Speaker needs to go. They are traitors like him.

Mr. Arrogant on November 22, 2013 at 8:01 AM

The way I see it is that these messes are created by lawyers for lawyers–it is their very lifeblood to find wealth in the messes other legislative lawyers make for lucrative rewards.

Don L on November 22, 2013 at 7:57 AM

You make a very good point.

jake-the-goose on November 22, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Saw the Zuckerberg ad on Fox this morning.

Wigglesworth on November 22, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Speaking of Zuckerberg, apparently he didn’t get Jake-the-moby’s memo that immigration reform is only about getting tech workers because apparently the U.S. is a third world country or something, lol.

Zuckerberg: Amnesty ‘one of the biggest civil rights’ issues of our time…

Yes Zuckerturd, your desire for low wage tech workers is just like the struggles of blacks, lol.

xblade on November 22, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Enforcement of the existing laws is what we need.

“Reform” is just the school where all of the Quislings belong who promote this fallacious b.s. about our “system being broken”.

What is broken are the spines of our politicians who do not enforce our current laws about the borders, illegal aliens and no amount of pious lying and weepiness about the “poor illegals” will change the fact that these office-holding scum are out to destroy the nation with an influx of 50 million scofflaws who will gravitate toward the party of scofflaws- the Dems.

profitsbeard on November 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Stifle yourself, Boehner!

claudius on November 22, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Non-Amnesty fans to Boehner:

No way are we going to let you not be Primary’ed.

Another Drew on November 22, 2013 at 3:41 PM

The canonical rule of illegal immigration:

“If politicians and their cronies benefited from secure borders and strong internal immigration security – it would have happened long ago.”

No matter what they say, no matter what they write in any “law” (Is there any law anymore? Or just what the Executive wants and Congress will allow?…) they are not going to secure the borders.

All talk of “border security” is just a political tool of distraction to division so we don’t take them to task on the what the bill really does to us.

That’s because “Immigration Reform” is 100% about power and money.
More of both for the ruling class – and less of both for the middle and working class.

Who here sincerely believes McCain, Reid, Ryan, Obama, Schumer, et al, are *not* lying to you and ‘really mean it this time’ about securing our borders and diligently enforcing internal immigration security?

If you don’t believe it, then why even talk about “fences” or “border-security” at all??? It’s not going to happen and will never happen if “Immigration Reform” passes.

DrDeano on November 23, 2013 at 3:44 PM

There is something very unsettling going on with this project. Lots of people say “no” to amnesty but the DC elite (both sides) continue to play games. Make it a timeline:

1 – Complete the fence.
2 – Update e-verify
3 – Once these two items are DONE, then process legal undocumented (this may not be an oxymoron) then
4 – The undocumented.

Regardless, personally, I don’t believe anyone who broke the law to get here should be allowed to vote. or, make voting/citizenship contingent on WAITING the number of years they were here illegally. For instance, if someone was here for 12 years illegally, they wait 12 years after #s 1,2,3 are done to be allowed to vote.

Why? Breaking the law is wrong. Even the religious ones have to admit that following the law is key. But the other reason is this: If we keep allowing illegals to take full advantage of everything, the system will break down, if not already. The current “makes excuses for whatever” is unsustainable. Eventually, there will be NO SYSTEM at all and everyone, including the do-gooders and illegals, will pay.

Our nation was founded by people who wanted to provide OPPORTUNITY, not an unfair advantage.

MN J on November 23, 2013 at 7:07 PM

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