Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on November 20, 2013 by Allahpundit

A top tech official for the ObamaCare exchanges said just days before the launch of the troubled health law website that people inside the White House were nervous the site would be unavailable after its launch and would be a big embarrassment, Fox News has learned.

A Sept. 25 e-mail from HealthCare.gov project manager Henry Chao,obtained exclusively by Fox News, suggests Obama administration officials had more fears than they let on publicly that the website would have problems before its Oct. 1 launch.

In the e-mail to a number of apparent colleagues, Chao suggests the administration should design a more palatable way to tell the public that the website was not working in case it failed after the launch, saying that such a move could help prevent the media from “just ramping up the hyperbole about hc.gov not [being] functional.”

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Consumers can’t go to healthcare.gov to learn whether their doctors participate in an Obamacare-approved health care plan because the website doesn’t include such information.

That’s because federal officials were so eager to approve insurer health plans for the exchanges, they didn’t ask how many doctors, hospitals, labs and clinics were participating in each plan, according to a key health insurance industry trade association executive…

Howard described Obamacare’s reduced reimbursement levels as “Medicaid Lite” because, he said, the program’s reimbursement rates are somewhere between Medicare and Medicaid levels.

“The structure is to really try to keep premiums down as much so you can to get that sweet spot with these essential health benefits,” Howard said.

“So, the only way is for providers to go to start slashing doctors from them and start slashing hospitals and get them to accept these lower payments,” he said.

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More importantly, these physicians are finding that their patients are being forced out of the insurance plans they have, because Jay Carney and Zeke Emmanuel have deemed them “substandard.” Some of the doctors said they will try to continue caring for their patients even after the insurance runs out, others said they just can’t afford to give away free care.

Obamacare is no answer. The health plans in the exchanges are using “skinny networks” to save money. That means no payment if a patient goes to an “out-of-network” provider, and in many cases only a third of an area’s physicians and hospitals are in the network. Naturally, these are the cheapest and worst providers in the region. The Anthem plan in Maine, one of only two choices in that state, will make no payment for any out-of-state provider, even though most patients with serious conditions in Maine go to Boston for treatment…

I had to tell these physicians that I see no way out. The politicians, bureaucrats, and special interests have destroyed what was a reasonably effective health care system.

Henry Chou, the fellow from CMS who oversaw the healthcare.gov web site development, famously said last spring that he was hoping the web site wasn’t “a third-world experience.” That’s the least of it. We are now facing an entire health care system that is a third-world experience.

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Via WaPo.

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A new and independent analysis of ObamaCare warns of a ticking time bomb, predicting a second wave of 50 million to 100 million insurance policy cancellations next fall — right before the mid-term elections.

The next round of cancellations and premium hikes is expected to hit employees, particularly of small businesses. While the administration has tried to downplay the cancellation notices hitting policyholders on the individual market by noting they represent a relatively small fraction of the population, the swath of people who will be affected by the shakeup in employer-sponsored coverage will be much broader…

For workers, their experience could mirror that of the 5 million or so on the individual market who already received cancellation notices because their plans did not meet new standards under the Affordable Care Act.

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Second, there are inescapable similarities in the ways that Bush and Obama handled their crises, and those actions changed the public’s view of their presidencies. Specifically:

* Their mismanagement raised questions about competence, compounded by deceptive and tone-deaf responses that undermined their credibility.
* The crises came after a series of unrelated events that had already caused doubt among voters about the presidents. To borrow a cliché, Katrina was the last straw.
* Their personal and job-approval ratings tanked.
* Their dwindling political capital was squandered by defensive, insular advisers who refused to recognize the dangers.
* They both ran reelection campaigns without a positive forward-looking message and made the races primarily about their opponent. That left them little political capital going into their second term.

Bush never recovered. Obama might still have time to learn history’s hard lessons.

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“The redistributive arithmetic of Obamacare’s architecture could never add up,” Steven Hayward, a visiting scholar in conservative thought and policy at the University of Colorado, wrote in Forbes magazine: “The wonder is that Obama’s political team didn’t see this coming and prepare a pre-emptive strategy for dealing with the inevitable exposure of the duplicity at the heart of Obamacare’s logic.”…

The industry sets rates three months in advance of each year. The rates for 2014 were set last month. If the industry is forced in 2014 to accept smaller profits, or actual losses, because of a government-mandated requirement to continue current policies, it will attempt to make up for lost revenue in 2015 by raising premiums. Providing temporary relief may create an even more severe problem in October 2014 with an election looming…

Obama has placed himself and his party in what now looks like a zero-sum bind, forcing a choice between inflicting the painful consequences of Obamacare on the electorate now or 11 months from now.

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“But it’s such a small minority” is the administration’s rejoinder; the entire individual market covers just 5 percent of the population, and some of those people will be net beneficiaries of Obamacare, thanks to the subsidies. This logic was always a bit shaky — all the people who are ultimately expected to get additional coverage from the new law, including the Medicaid expansion, amount to only 7.5 percent of the population, so if 5 percent is too small to worry about, then probably so is the number of uninsured. But it’s not even true. I mean, it’s true that only 5 percent of the population gets its coverage from the individual market. But Obamacare is also making significant changes in the employer market. Twelve percent of workers are expected to be affected by the “Cadillac tax” on especially generous health-care benefits when it kicks in in 2018. When those people find out that they too will be in the group of people who can’t keep their plan, even though they like it, they will be livid. The unions, who will be disproportionately affected by this, are already getting restive.

To be clear, I still don’t think that repeal is probable. But I do think it’s possible, and getting somewhat more likely, though not under Obama’s presidency. Having two outlets talk about this as more than a Republican pipe dream tells you that people are starting to think that this is actually possible. And that by itself makes it more likely to happen. Not all at once, the way the Republican Party dreamed. But it might be dismembered in pieces, until there’s no reason not to repeal what’s left of the desiccated corpse…

The moment that it looks like there’s a big risk that Obamacare won’t work, both Democrats and insurers are going to stampede for the exit. Yes, Obama can veto anything that threatens his favorite law. But if it gets that far, he’s already lost. His veto will cost his party big in the 2014 midterms, quite possibly enough to cost them the Senate. But by then it will probably be irrelevant, because if Obama has to veto something like a bipartisan bill to delay or repeal the individual mandate, his presidency will be over, and his signature legislation will be in grave danger. Insurers were willing to risk fairly substantial losses in 2014 to help the law get established and build market share. If it looks like the law is going to fail, they probably aren’t going to be willing to do it again in 2015.

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Via Newsbusters.

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Via the WFB.

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Via the Daily Rushbo.


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Let it burn!

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 10:42 PM

I was this close!!!! Hi Sophie!

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM

BishBop!!!

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Hiya, Ken!

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Clusterf&ck is kind.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Quick Hits:

Bad News For Barry: 84% of DEMOCRATS Say Obamacare Should Be Changed Or Repealed…

Top Dem Aide: Obama “More Unpopular” Than George W. Bush With Congressional Democrats…

Poll: 49% of U.S. Voters Say Democratic Party “Too Liberal”…

Change in Obamacare approval (net points) since it launched:

Fox News: -11

Gallup: -12

Quinnipiac: -14

WaPo/ABC: -14

Rasmussen: -16

CBS: -22

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:44 PM

B 9 Bop Bish

bazil9 on November 20, 2013 at 10:45 PM

To answer ALyT’s question; Yes, whenever you are here, or there.

cozmo on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

since QOTD is an open thread: awww nothing today about Illinois legalizing gay marriage? Or right-wing hero Zimmerman losing his guns? or states like Wisconsin making it harder for minorities to vote early? Trying to suppress the old white bigots that make up your base now that you think you have a winning message w/ the ACA rollout mishaps? why else would you kill that obvious link bait for 10000 obamacare stories averaging 60 comments each? hmmmm

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

A top tech official for the ObamaCare exchanges said just days before the launch of the troubled health law website that people inside the White House were nervous the site would be unavailable after its launch and would be a big embarrassment,

Looks like they chose to have a “big embarassment” rather than present Him with bad news. He don’t like no bad news.

ted c on November 20, 2013 at 10:47 PM

C H A O S

ExpressoBold on November 20, 2013 at 10:47 PM

We are now facing an entire health care system that is a third-world experience.

It makes Barky feel as if he were right at home in post-coup attempt, 1960s Jakarta. Who woulda thunk it?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 20, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Poll: 49% of U.S. Voters Say Democratic Party “Too Liberal”…

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Hon, the real news there is the 41% who think it is about right.

When you add the 8% who think they are too conservative (who else are they gonna’ vote for), you get right back to 49%.

cozmo on November 20, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Repeal and Impeach…

d1carter on November 20, 2013 at 10:48 PM

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

TRANSLATION #1: SQUIRREL!!!!!!!

TRANSLATION #2: WAAAAAAAAAAH!

kim roy on November 20, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Global warming professor Kevin Anderson ‘cuts back on washing and showering’ to fight climate change – Admits at UN climate summit: ‘That is why I smell’ – Defends his call for ‘a planned economic recession’

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/11/19/global-warming-professor-kevin-anderson-cuts-back-on-washing-and-showering-to-fight-climate-change-admits-at-un-climate-summit-that-is-why-i-smell/

Murphy9 on November 20, 2013 at 10:50 PM

since QOTD is an open thread:

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

I vote for asking douchebear why he wasn’t around to defend 0bamaSNAFUcare the last few days.

cozmo on November 20, 2013 at 10:50 PM

hmmmm

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

.
That was the most intelligent of your questions, DistractionBear… go hibernate.

ExpressoBold on November 20, 2013 at 10:51 PM

‘Toons of the Day: Underwater

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:42 PM

I didn’t hear any tune, there, or see a link, so …

Metric – Breathing Underwater

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 20, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Obamacare Now More Unpopular Than The Iraq War In 2006…

Via Washington Examiner:

Support for President Obama’s health care law has dropped 16 points in the past month — and that’s just among Democrats.

The finding, from a CBS News poll, is one of several startling numbers from polls released in recent days showing rapidly eroding public support for Obama’s signature legislative accomplishment in the wake of its botched rollout. [...]

With the 2014 midterm elections now in the horizon, what’s most striking is how closely Obamacare polling is starting to resemble polling on Iraq in fall 2006, when a public backlash against the war enabled the Democrats to take over control of both chambers of Congress.

A Gallup poll taken days before the Nov. 7, 2006, election found that 55 percent of Americans had come to view sending troops to Iraq as a mistake, compared to 40 percent who said it was not.

Yet in the CBS News poll released Wednesday, 61 percent of Americans were found to disapprove of Obamacare, compared to 31 percent who approve. In the Washington Post poll, the numbers were 57 percent to 40 percent.

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:51 PM

since QOTD is an open thread: awww nothing today about Illinois legalizing gay marriage? Or right-wing hero Zimmerman losing his guns? or states like Wisconsin making it harder for minorities to vote early? Trying to suppress the old white bigots that make up your base now that you think you have a winning message w/ the ACA rollout mishaps? why else would you kill that obvious link bait for 10000 obamacare stories averaging 60 comments each? hmmmm

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Nah. We’ll stick to what’s important to the 311 million, not just what’s important to douchebags like you.
But, nice try. If it was working, well, we all knew it would crater and fail. Just like Obama.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 10:51 PM

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Right wing Zimmerman voted for zero in 08, putz.

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 10:51 PM

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

You really are an overall asset to the HA experience. Thanks for taking some time out to fuk around.

arnold ziffel on November 20, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Second video is awesome.

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM

A top tech official for the ObamaCare exchanges said just days before the launch of the troubled health law website that people inside the White House were nervous the site would be unavailable after its launch and would be a big embarrassment, Fox News has learned.

Remember the good old days, when Obama’s big worry was a shirtless Biden washing a Trans Am in front of the White House?

Chuck Schick on November 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Remember the good old days, when Obama’s big worry was a shirtless Biden washing a Trans Am in front of the White House?

Chuck Schick on November 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM

LMFAO!

Murphy9 on November 20, 2013 at 10:53 PM

since QOTD is an open thread: awww nothing today about Illinois legalizing gay marriage? Or right-wing hero Zimmerman losing his guns? or states like Wisconsin making it harder for minorities to vote early? Trying to suppress the old white bigots that make up your base now that you think you have a winning message w/ the ACA rollout mishaps? why else would you kill that obvious link bait for 10000 obamacare stories averaging 60 comments each? hmmmm

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

No, I think watching your entire parasitic way of life go down in flames is more important.

Say hi to your niece and nephew for us!

Chuck Schick on November 20, 2013 at 10:54 PM

hmmmm

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Hum along…

Tiny Dancing D-Bear:

Hopenchange crazy, Obama baby, foot soldier for the man
Mesmerised, spellbound smile, you’ll cede your freedoms to your man
Obamarina, you must have seen him swaying in the stands
And, now, he’s jobless, always indebted, a tiny puppet in His hand

Obamafreaks out in the street
Handing tickets out for ObamaGod
Twirling ’round, they faint, cry and laugh
Bankruptcy Boulevard, you see, is not that bad

Empty Chair, He makes his stand
In the auditorium
Looking on, he chants the mantra-songs
The words, he knows. “Yes, We Can!” he hums.

But, oh, how it feels so real
Lying though, Empty Chair says what they want to hear
Only He, He intones, can lower the oceans and hear thee
And, when He says softly, slowly

Hold me closer, Obamarina
Count the votes on the electoral highway
Pay my campaign down to your last penny
I’ve had a busy day, today

Hopenchange crazy, Obama baby, foot soldier for the man
Mesmerised, spellbound smile, you’ll cede your freedom to your man
Obamarina, you prayed to see Him, as you were swaying in the stands
And, now, your jobless, always indebted, a tiny puppet in His hand

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Trey Radel Live Presser:(just concluded)

Rep. Trey Radel arrested for cocaine possession
11m
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Rep. Trey Radel, R-Fla., after announcing leave of absence: ‘I’m owning up to my actions, I’m taking responsibility’ – @frankthorpNBC
read more on twitter.com

12m
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Rep. Trey Radel, R-Fla., says he will donate his salary to charity during leave – @chrisgeidner
read more on twitter.com

13m
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Rep. Trey Radel, R-Fla., announces he will be taking a leave of absence after pleading guilty to cocaine possession – live video
end of bulletin
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/trey-radel/

canopfor on November 20, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Chuck Schick on November 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Yeah. I had to look.

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 10:55 PM

C H A O S

ExpressoBold on November 20, 2013 at 10:47 PM

K A O S !

I saw the tagline on the front page and thought of that “international organization of evil.”

INC on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

B9? Didn’t I see you?

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Radel needs to resign. Let Connie Mack run for his old seat.

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

You really are an overall asset to the HA experience. Thanks for taking some time out to fuk around.

arnold ziffel on November 20, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Considering the usual suspects have been mysteriously absent, we should probably be nice to any troll that decides to wander out right now.

Nah.

kim roy on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

B9? Didn’t I see you?

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

That would be M9.

Murphy9 on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

I’m sad that DoucheBear decided to shit and run.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

I had to tell these physicians that I see no way out. The politicians, bureaucrats, and special interests have destroyed what was a reasonably effective health care system.

what no “mission accomplished” barry…flags and a band. You Won!

i wish i had more confidence in the RINO party…the progressive side of the party is so bought that they will just do what their donors tell them to…so if the insurance and pharma pony up the cash, the RINOs will be all in, and they’ll just pass some brain dead bill like the Upton lightbulb ban ‘delay’ bill. I.e. cash in your donor checks.

when that cash comes in, they’ll fold like a cheap suit…there’s money to be made in a third world country

r keller on November 20, 2013 at 10:57 PM

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Yes..peek a boo- lol

I B Bopped in.

bazil9 on November 20, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Third world healthcare system, awesome. Thank you to the human pimples of the 52% who elected Dog Eater.

Dungbeetle seems a bit nervous while rattling off all his points of interest, odd he didn’t make an appearance on those 10,000 previous DeathCare threads.

Bishop on November 20, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Maybe Dbear would like to discuss the uptick in The Knockout Game that his peoples are inflicting on white folk.

You want to discuss your racist violence?

Murphy9 on November 20, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Hey, how many more days before we can stop talking about John Freakin’ Kennedy?

SailorMark on November 20, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I’m sad that DoucheBear decided to shit and run.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Maybe, DBear can answer the question of one of my old handles:

Does Mohammed Shiite In The Woods?

[It was part of Everybody Draw Mohammed Day]

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Who cares? Definitely not Obama. He will never repeal the law even if 99% of Americans call for it to get repealed.

He is never going to run again so why should he care? Anyway I think the GOP is doing what it does best which is over reaching. They would have way more credibility if they were to use this opportunity to outline a more cohesive health care plan. Instead they spend their time demonizing a law most Americans want fixed rather than repealed.

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Unskinny Bop!

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM

I’m sad that DoucheBear decided to shit and run.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Hey, it’s 2 for 1 fried clam bucket night at Long John Silvers.

Chuck Schick on November 20, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Murphy9 on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Hi M9!

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 11:00 PM

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/trey-radel/

canopfor on November 20, 2013 at 10:54 PM

He should resign and be grateful he was caught. Mixing alcohol and cocaine is a death wish. Stupid people!

bluefox on November 20, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Obama bin Hussein, doing to Americans’ health care what Osama bin Laden did to the Twin Towers.

VorDaj on November 20, 2013 at 11:00 PM

I’m sad that DoucheBear decided to shit and run.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

His MO of late.

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 11:01 PM

to outline a more cohesive health care plan.

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM

What the hell is a “cohesive” health care plan?

“English … do you speak it, motherf#@ker??”

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 20, 2013 at 11:01 PM

I’m sad that DoucheBear decided to shit and run.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Maybe, DBear can answer the question of one of my old handles:

Does Mohammed Shiite In The Woods?

[It was part of Everybody Draw Mohammed Day]

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I’m sure he shits his pants. I’m sure DoucheBear does the same.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Unskinny Bop!

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM

:]

Unskinny bop
Just blows me away
Unskinny bop, bop
All night and day
Unskinny bop, bop, bop, bop
She just loves to play
Unskinny bop nothin’ more to say

bazil9 on November 20, 2013 at 11:02 PM

bazil9 on November 20, 2013 at 10:57 PM

{HUGS!}

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Who cares? Definitely not Obama. He will never repeal the law even if 99% of Americans call for it to get repealed.

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM

If the heat gets hot enough, it won’t matter what Obama wants. While still unlikely, but odds getting better everyday, is the possibility of DEMOCRATS joining in a bipartisan override of Obama’s veto. The Clinton Machine will swing into action because polls already show the Obamacare debacle hurting Hillary. Hell, Lanny Davis called for repeal this evening.

Well, actually he said ‘reset,’ which is ironic because OVERCHARGE describes Obamacare to a ‘t’.

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Amazing times. Things move fast.

wolly4321 on November 20, 2013 at 11:04 PM

ObamaCare’s popularity is now midway between that of Prohibition and Syphilis.

VorDaj on November 20, 2013 at 11:04 PM

{HUGS!}

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 11:02 PM

{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

bazil9 on November 20, 2013 at 11:04 PM

to outline a more cohesive health care plan.

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM

So free markets doesn’t satisfy you?

nobar on November 20, 2013 at 11:04 PM

since QOTD is an open thread: awww nothing today about Illinois legalizing gay marriage?

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

DBear:

UhgaRoo, ya know there is only so much time in a day,

..yes yes,…I sent the whole 10 yards on the freaggin
Illinios Same-Sex Marriage into Tips, it’ll more than likely
turn up tomorrow!

Btw, did you catch Rahms remarks, it appears that anything can marry anything, with his LeftTard coded message!
==========================================


Chicago, IL, US
5h
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Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel at Illinois same-sex marriage bill signing: ‘There is no straight or gay marriage. From now on there is only marriage in Illinois’ – @natashakorecki

canopfor on November 20, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Radel needs to resign. Let Connie Mack run for his old seat.

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Connie Mack is a RINO member of a Florida political dynasty and with family ties to a couple of old Texas political dynasties (Sheppard & Connally). He also seems to have quite a temper problem. He elbowed his way into the Florida primaries and it was obvious there was political arm-twisting going on to get more conservative candidates to drop out. Upon being nominated he lost to Bill Nelson.

INC on November 20, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Finally some good news:
(sarc)

US drone program
2m
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Suspected US drone strike kills 6 in Pakistan, officials say – @AP
read more on bigstory.ap.org
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/suspected-us-drone-strike-kills-6-pakistan

canopfor on November 20, 2013 at 11:07 PM

look at the trolls…lmao

bazil9 on November 20, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Hey..You gotta keep the hope alive I guess. Good luck with the repeal.

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM

ObamaCare’s popularity is now midway between that of Prohibition and Syphilis.

VorDaj on November 20, 2013 at 11:04 PM

VorDaj:Lol, and, carried away by crabs!!:)

canopfor on November 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM

INC on November 20, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Don’t forget this all time hit:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/95123-mack-r-compares-ariz-law-to-nazi-germany

bazil9 on November 20, 2013 at 11:09 PM

The moment that it looks like there’s a big risk that Obamacare won’t work, both Democrats and insurers are going to stampede for the exit. Yes, Obama can veto anything that threatens his favorite law. But if it gets that far, he’s already lost. His veto will cost his party big in the 2014 midterms, quite possibly enough to cost them the Senate. But by then it will probably be irrelevant, because if Obama has to veto something like a bipartisan bill to delay or repeal the individual mandate, his presidency will be over, and his signature legislation will be in grave danger. Insurers were willing to risk fairly substantial losses in 2014 to help the law get established and build market share. If it looks like the law is going to fail, they probably aren’t going to be willing to do it again in 2015.

I absolutely LOVE this. Check mate, jackass.
I just hope the pressure, the failure, the rats jumping off the sinking ship cause obama to lose his cool and show everyone what he really is…then, I will want hump bot to celebrate the end of this national nightmare.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Hopenchange crazy, Obama baby, foot soldier for the man
Mesmerised, spellbound smile, you’ll cede your freedom to your man
Obamarina, you prayed to see Him, as you were swaying in the stands
And, now, your jobless, always indebted, a tiny puppet in His hand

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Resist We Much: Veddy Nice:0

canopfor on November 20, 2013 at 11:09 PM

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Good luck with the Law.Of.The.Land.

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Radel needs to resign. Let Connie Mack run for his old seat.

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Radel should resign, but if he does I hope they find someone other than Mack to run.

If he doesn’t resign, then the Dems may grab that seat. People expect higher standards from R’s, and when an R tries to brazen it out, he may not fare very well.

INC on November 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM

K A O S !

I saw the tagline on the front page and thought of that “international organization of evil.”

INC on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

.
Dayyum! I missed that… but still, that is the Øbama government experience and plan. As long as he can screw things up for everybody and then pretend to offer “solutions” he seems cool and analytical while everybody else is running around with hair on fire.
.
International Organization of Evil works, too… although I haven’t figured out how to work into OfA. Organization for Anti-Christ, maybe.

ExpressoBold on November 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM

When Obama, unilaterally, delayed the employer mandate, the House passed a bill that would give him that authority since the law doesn’t grant it to him. Obama said that he would veto it. The same is true for the Upton bill.

It’s not just the House. Senators Landrieu, Manchin, Udall, Shaheen, and Begich each have introduced separate legislative ‘fixes’ or are in the process of doing so. All of them are Democrats. Harry Reid has refused to allow a vote on any of them and has no plans, at this time, to do so.

Obama claims that Congress refuses to help him ‘fix’ Obamacare, but the real dirty little secret is this: The LAST thing that Obama wants is for Obamacare to be back in Congress where it will be opened up to all sorts of changes. Even if he lacks the authority and his acts are clearly unlawful (see the decision to read the law to permit Federal subsidies to be granted to applicants in states that did not create their own exchanges – the ACA ONLY permits subsidation in STATE-RUN exchanges), Obama would prefer to act unilaterally than let Congress (and Congress, my LIV friends, includes the Senate) start fooling around with his signature achievement.

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Chao suggests the administration should design a more palatable way to tell the public that the website was not working in case it failed after the launch,
Why ?
Threatening people with a giant gavel and calling them racists does not work anymore?

burrata on November 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Don’t forget this all time hit:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/95123-mack-r-compares-ariz-law-to-nazi-germany

bazil9 on November 20, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Oh, yes. Thank you!

INC on November 20, 2013 at 11:11 PM

This crap could blow up by Christmas.

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 11:11 PM

The Anthem plan in Maine, one of only two choices in that state, will make no payment for any out-of-state provider, even though most patients with serious conditions in Maine go to Boston for treatment…

This is a concrete sign… people are going to get screwed.

anotherJoe on November 20, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Nah.

kim roy on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

How come these fine people like libfree and nonpartisan don’t linger and let us enjoy their savory beer, bean burrito, cabbage fart presence?

arnold ziffel on November 20, 2013 at 11:11 PM

the old white bigots that make up your base

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Brilliant Satire!

F+

Your Cult (aka the Democrat Party) is now The Party of Old White Women, the vast majority of whom either married or inherited their Meal Tickets.

Dianne Feinstein = 80 years old

Bela Pelosi = 73 years old

Babs Boxer, who used to be Hildabeest’s sister-in-law = 73 years old

Hillary and Kemo Sabe Warren from MA = 18 months apart in age. Both will be 69 in 2016.

And you wonder why we laugh at you?

Del Dolemonte on November 20, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Hey..You gotta keep the hope alive I guess. Good luck with the repeal.

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM

I’m only saying EXACTLY what many Democrats are.

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 11:12 PM

So free markets doesn’t satisfy you?
nobar on November 20, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Same “free market” that’s constantly denying coverage after collecting all my premiums? Same free market that wrote Obamacare? Same free market that has earmarked millions of dollars to promote the health care exchanges once the website is fixed? Same free market eager to force all Americans into buying health care insurance? That “free market”? No it doesn’t satisfy me.

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 11:12 PM

ExpressoBold on November 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Works for me!

INC on November 20, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Obama would prefer to act unilaterally than let Congress (and Congress, my LIV friends, includes the Senate) start fooling around with his signature achievement.

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM

.
Maybe the solution is “pork.” Good old, bribery-based, district grease. Republicans, can you afford some pork?

ExpressoBold on November 20, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Del Dolemonte on November 20, 2013 at 11:12 PM

At least they are all attractive.

Ok, threw up in my mouth a little.

KCB on November 20, 2013 at 11:15 PM

canopfor on November 20, 2013 at 10:54 PM

He should resign and be grateful he was caught. Mixing alcohol and cocaine is a death wish. Stupid people!

bluefox on November 20, 2013 at 11:00 PM

bluefox:

Agreed, but, thats what the Leftys want,and Trey Redel owned up to it,
took responsibility,and I think,if it was a Democrat, the excuses
would be neverending!!
=====================

Heres *NN HeadLine as an example:

Chris Geidner ‏@chrisgeidner 39m

This is awful. *NN headline is worse: “COCAINE CONGRESSMAN SPEAKS OUT.”

canopfor on November 20, 2013 at 11:15 PM

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 11:12 PM

So you actually believe that what was in the beforetime was “free markets”?

The problems run too deep to get anything meaningful drilled into that empty space between your shoulders.

nobar on November 20, 2013 at 11:15 PM

CBS POLL: 93% of American voters want to see Obamacare altered or repealed.

A fascinating number in Wednesday’s CBS poll is that only 7% of the American public want ObamaCare “kept in place.” A full 93% either believe that changes are needed to the law (48%) or want a full repeal (43%). This pits President Obama and Democrat lawmakers — who thus far have refused to make any meaningful changes — against 93% of the American people and 72% of Democrats.

Moreover, only 12% of Democrats want ObamaCare “kept as is.”

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 11:15 PM

I’m sad that DoucheBear decided to shit and run.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Hey, it’s 2 for 1 fried clam bucket night at Long John Silvers.

Chuck Schick on November 20, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Long John Silver’s? What is?

Let me guess-fried clam strips instead of whole belly clams.

No comparison.

Del Dolemonte on November 20, 2013 at 11:15 PM

So any, one seen O’Keefe’s brilliant video today ?
:P

burrata on November 20, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Who cares? Definitely not Obama. He will never repeal the law even if 99% of Americans call for it to get repealed.

He is never going to run again so why should he care? Anyway I think the GOP is doing what it does best which is over reaching. They would have way more credibility if they were to use this opportunity to outline a more cohesive health care plan. Instead they spend their time demonizing a law most Americans want fixed rather than repealed.

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM

And, I’m sure Harry Reid would be all about putting your cohesive health care on the senate floor for a vote. The law is imploding, giving it a little kick is no big deal.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 11:16 PM

The politicians, bureaucrats, and special interests have destroyed what was a reasonably effective health care system.

Somewhere, hidden deep inside the Obamacare legislation….
there…has…got…to…be…a kill switch.

Enough of this bullsh!t.

MichaelGabriel on November 20, 2013 at 11:16 PM

This is a concrete sign… people are going to get screwed.

anotherJoe on November 20, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Absolute morons like D(bag)Bear and loveofcountrymyselfonly do not understand the size & destructive force of the upcoming tsumani. ChoomCare will be repealed…

Anti-Control on November 20, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Or right-wing hero Zimmerman losing his guns?

DBear on November 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Uhh, a few reasons… First, it has no bearing on his shooting a feral, drug-addled, criminally inclined teenager. Second, it has no bearing on my right to carry a gun. Third, his girlfriend and her mother have been shopping around for a payday from a national new station interview, but apparently, no one is interested in paying them.

Since Del isn’t around to issue a grade, I’ll be the substitute teacher: D-

(Passing grade only because you did do what you are paid to do, that is, try to distract the readership from ClusterSharknadoF*ckCare™.

PointnClick on November 20, 2013 at 11:17 PM

I’m only saying EXACTLY what many Democrats are.
Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Lenny Davies is now “many Democrats”? How about Pat Cadell and Doug Scheon? Come on.

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 11:17 PM

You gotta keep the hope alive I guess. Good luck with the repeal. loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 11:08 Pm

Good luck with making me sign up. You have the guts to put a gun to my head?

That’s what it will take.

wolly4321 on November 20, 2013 at 11:18 PM

burrata on November 20, 2013 at 11:16 PM

At over two hours, I didn’t.

But didn’t we already know what was involved.

I mean c’mon, of course they are gonna’ share data with fellow socialists.

cozmo on November 20, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Resist We Much on November 20, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Hey..You gotta keep the hope alive I guess. Good luck with the repeal.

I_Love_Waking_up_Every_Morning_Knowing_That_Barack_O’bama_Is_President on November 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Wipe your chin off and adjust your kneepads, Cultist.

Forward!

Del Dolemonte on November 20, 2013 at 11:18 PM

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM

What the hell is a “cohesive” health care plan?

“English … do you speak it, motherf#@ker??”

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 20, 2013 at 11:01 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair:

Sounds like a “Sticky Plan”, maybe for Fluke types!

Jus say’n!!:0

canopfor on November 20, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Oooops! Del is here… Apologies, Schoolmaster…

PointnClick on November 20, 2013 at 11:19 PM

So free markets doesn’t satisfy you?
nobar on November 20, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Same “free market” that’s constantly denying coverage after collecting all my premiums? Same free market that wrote Obamacare? Same free market that has earmarked millions of dollars to promote the health care exchanges once the website is fixed? Same free market eager to force all Americans into buying health care insurance? That “free market”? No it doesn’t satisfy me.

loveofcountry on November 20, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Did you read that contract you signed? Says right there, they will not pay for a sex change!
No one is saying obamacare is free market, pal.

RovesChins on November 20, 2013 at 11:19 PM

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