Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on November 20, 2013 by Allahpundit

A top tech official for the ObamaCare exchanges said just days before the launch of the troubled health law website that people inside the White House were nervous the site would be unavailable after its launch and would be a big embarrassment, Fox News has learned.

A Sept. 25 e-mail from HealthCare.gov project manager Henry Chao,obtained exclusively by Fox News, suggests Obama administration officials had more fears than they let on publicly that the website would have problems before its Oct. 1 launch.

In the e-mail to a number of apparent colleagues, Chao suggests the administration should design a more palatable way to tell the public that the website was not working in case it failed after the launch, saying that such a move could help prevent the media from “just ramping up the hyperbole about hc.gov not [being] functional.”

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Consumers can’t go to healthcare.gov to learn whether their doctors participate in an Obamacare-approved health care plan because the website doesn’t include such information.

That’s because federal officials were so eager to approve insurer health plans for the exchanges, they didn’t ask how many doctors, hospitals, labs and clinics were participating in each plan, according to a key health insurance industry trade association executive…

Howard described Obamacare’s reduced reimbursement levels as “Medicaid Lite” because, he said, the program’s reimbursement rates are somewhere between Medicare and Medicaid levels.

“The structure is to really try to keep premiums down as much so you can to get that sweet spot with these essential health benefits,” Howard said.

“So, the only way is for providers to go to start slashing doctors from them and start slashing hospitals and get them to accept these lower payments,” he said.

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More importantly, these physicians are finding that their patients are being forced out of the insurance plans they have, because Jay Carney and Zeke Emmanuel have deemed them “substandard.” Some of the doctors said they will try to continue caring for their patients even after the insurance runs out, others said they just can’t afford to give away free care.

Obamacare is no answer. The health plans in the exchanges are using “skinny networks” to save money. That means no payment if a patient goes to an “out-of-network” provider, and in many cases only a third of an area’s physicians and hospitals are in the network. Naturally, these are the cheapest and worst providers in the region. The Anthem plan in Maine, one of only two choices in that state, will make no payment for any out-of-state provider, even though most patients with serious conditions in Maine go to Boston for treatment…

I had to tell these physicians that I see no way out. The politicians, bureaucrats, and special interests have destroyed what was a reasonably effective health care system.

Henry Chou, the fellow from CMS who oversaw the healthcare.gov web site development, famously said last spring that he was hoping the web site wasn’t “a third-world experience.” That’s the least of it. We are now facing an entire health care system that is a third-world experience.

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Via WaPo.

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A new and independent analysis of ObamaCare warns of a ticking time bomb, predicting a second wave of 50 million to 100 million insurance policy cancellations next fall — right before the mid-term elections.

The next round of cancellations and premium hikes is expected to hit employees, particularly of small businesses. While the administration has tried to downplay the cancellation notices hitting policyholders on the individual market by noting they represent a relatively small fraction of the population, the swath of people who will be affected by the shakeup in employer-sponsored coverage will be much broader…

For workers, their experience could mirror that of the 5 million or so on the individual market who already received cancellation notices because their plans did not meet new standards under the Affordable Care Act.

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Second, there are inescapable similarities in the ways that Bush and Obama handled their crises, and those actions changed the public’s view of their presidencies. Specifically:

* Their mismanagement raised questions about competence, compounded by deceptive and tone-deaf responses that undermined their credibility.
* The crises came after a series of unrelated events that had already caused doubt among voters about the presidents. To borrow a cliché, Katrina was the last straw.
* Their personal and job-approval ratings tanked.
* Their dwindling political capital was squandered by defensive, insular advisers who refused to recognize the dangers.
* They both ran reelection campaigns without a positive forward-looking message and made the races primarily about their opponent. That left them little political capital going into their second term.

Bush never recovered. Obama might still have time to learn history’s hard lessons.

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“The redistributive arithmetic of Obamacare’s architecture could never add up,” Steven Hayward, a visiting scholar in conservative thought and policy at the University of Colorado, wrote in Forbes magazine: “The wonder is that Obama’s political team didn’t see this coming and prepare a pre-emptive strategy for dealing with the inevitable exposure of the duplicity at the heart of Obamacare’s logic.”…

The industry sets rates three months in advance of each year. The rates for 2014 were set last month. If the industry is forced in 2014 to accept smaller profits, or actual losses, because of a government-mandated requirement to continue current policies, it will attempt to make up for lost revenue in 2015 by raising premiums. Providing temporary relief may create an even more severe problem in October 2014 with an election looming…

Obama has placed himself and his party in what now looks like a zero-sum bind, forcing a choice between inflicting the painful consequences of Obamacare on the electorate now or 11 months from now.

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“But it’s such a small minority” is the administration’s rejoinder; the entire individual market covers just 5 percent of the population, and some of those people will be net beneficiaries of Obamacare, thanks to the subsidies. This logic was always a bit shaky — all the people who are ultimately expected to get additional coverage from the new law, including the Medicaid expansion, amount to only 7.5 percent of the population, so if 5 percent is too small to worry about, then probably so is the number of uninsured. But it’s not even true. I mean, it’s true that only 5 percent of the population gets its coverage from the individual market. But Obamacare is also making significant changes in the employer market. Twelve percent of workers are expected to be affected by the “Cadillac tax” on especially generous health-care benefits when it kicks in in 2018. When those people find out that they too will be in the group of people who can’t keep their plan, even though they like it, they will be livid. The unions, who will be disproportionately affected by this, are already getting restive.

To be clear, I still don’t think that repeal is probable. But I do think it’s possible, and getting somewhat more likely, though not under Obama’s presidency. Having two outlets talk about this as more than a Republican pipe dream tells you that people are starting to think that this is actually possible. And that by itself makes it more likely to happen. Not all at once, the way the Republican Party dreamed. But it might be dismembered in pieces, until there’s no reason not to repeal what’s left of the desiccated corpse…

The moment that it looks like there’s a big risk that Obamacare won’t work, both Democrats and insurers are going to stampede for the exit. Yes, Obama can veto anything that threatens his favorite law. But if it gets that far, he’s already lost. His veto will cost his party big in the 2014 midterms, quite possibly enough to cost them the Senate. But by then it will probably be irrelevant, because if Obama has to veto something like a bipartisan bill to delay or repeal the individual mandate, his presidency will be over, and his signature legislation will be in grave danger. Insurers were willing to risk fairly substantial losses in 2014 to help the law get established and build market share. If it looks like the law is going to fail, they probably aren’t going to be willing to do it again in 2015.

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Via Newsbusters.

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Via the WFB.

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Via the Daily Rushbo.


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I think barry always relies on his help-mates in the press and in his administration. It takes a village. An honest appraisal of this administration (i think) would be scary indeed.

Normal people have cabinet meetings. Normal presidents are able to have strong people around them to carry out their vision. The Kitchen Cabinet, etc. Barry’s not the brightest knife in the drawer for sure…but the main problem in his personality/character. The facile liar. Not wanting to get his hands dirty. Hillary nailed him good and hard when she said ‘just words’. He managed to punch back twice as hard on that…but she was right. She nailed him…he is just words

Unfortunately barry has a huge machine behind him…otherwise he’d be nothin

r keller on November 21, 2013 at 3:05 AM

That’s Alinsky tactics.

Yeah, but…if someone takes 20 steps to accomplish a task that could have been accomplished in 10 with more forethought, “efficient” is not a description for him which pops into my head!

To me, it’s like this: it’s not that the Preezy is very good at manipulation & destruction, it’s more that what he’s tried to manipulate & destroy have been easy, weak targets.

One thing that this whole debacle has shown me is that I had way more faith, hope, and idols in this world than I realized. The last few months I’ve learned more about what’s important than any other time in my life.

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 2:57 AM

That’s good though, isn’t it? :)

The Yardbirds – “No Excess Baggage”

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:08 AM

Nice…….the Robert Hunter is on Page 2……check it out – you can just search on my “handle”…..

Good choice on your part….

williamg on November 21, 2013 at 3:04 AM

Found it! Good choice!

That’s good though, isn’t it? :)

The Yardbirds – “No Excess Baggage”

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:08 AM

Definitely.

Great, now I have 300 records laid out on the floor. Trying to find that copy of Jerry Garcia Band…

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 3:10 AM

Been awhile since I spun some WEW

Old Devils are at it Again

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 3:16 AM

Definitely.

Great, now I have 300 records laid out on the floor. Trying to find that copy of Jerry Garcia Band…

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 3:10 AM

:)

I meant to have had it like this in my previous post: “it’s more that what he’s tried to manipulate & destroy, and at which he’s succeeded, have been easy, weak targets.”

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:16 AM

Now I’ve seen everything.

Japanese Dead cover band. The Wheel

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 3:23 AM

I might be wrong, but I don’t think that Benito Mussolini spent nearly as much time as Obama sticking his thumb in the eye of half or more of his population.

justltl on November 21, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Anyone here who believes the Preezy has been efficient as he goes about attempting to fundamentally transform America: do you think the troubles ChoomCare has had during it’s rollout are helping the leftards achieve their goal of single-payer, hurting their goal, or making no difference at all toward that goal?

I’ll be honest, I don’t presently understand how anyone could believe the disastrous rollout is doing anything other than hurting their cause, but maybe I could be enlightened by someone with a different pov? :)

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:31 AM

there seems to be a fire hose worth of change coming from DC on every front. That is the Transformation. Drudge looks more and more depressing every day.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/11/20/exclusive_inside_americas_plan_to_kill_online_privacy_rights_everywhere

this evenings little nugget, the US wants to stop an international effort to protect digital privacy rights. Now I’m always one to support anti-terror stuff…and, yes, spying on other counties is Always and forever going on.

But still…why so clumsy? Why so bald in asserting that We have the right to spy on, well, everyone…large blocks of data..huge petabytes of data. Yeah, si se puede…but do we have to piss off the whole world? Do we have to stand for Snooping. Freedom not so much?

this will not turn out well

r keller on November 21, 2013 at 3:34 AM

A GD I cover I like:

The Pontiac Brothers – “Brown-Eyed Women”

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:34 AM

I’ll be honest, I don’t presently understand how anyone could believe the disastrous rollout is doing anything other than hurting their cause, but maybe I could be enlightened by someone with a different pov? :)

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:31 AM

but what’s their cause? Is this helping or hurting single payer? I know the poll that says that people don’t want the government to ensure a healthcare right…and that’s great

but it is early innings. Greta had some guy on, small business guy, with a sad story..terrible story and barry.care. Listen between the lines…he wants a fix..just like Booker from NJ wants a fix. He wants his people covered..AND…he wants it cheaper because he exports.

Well, what is cheaper to a business that public healthcare..single payer. He can make machines and doesn’t have to screw with this stuff. Greta didn’t pop the question..do you want single payer. I betcha he’d say whatever Works

docs are going to get hammered on how much they make…it is disgusting. The docs i go to add huge value to my life…barry and the leftist pigs? Not so much

early innings

r keller on November 21, 2013 at 3:42 AM

America’s Dopiest Drug Dealer Is Sent To Prison
Perp wore cocaine sweatshirt to hearing in Florida courtroom

lol

I’ll be honest, I don’t presently understand how anyone could believe the disastrous rollout is doing anything other than hurting their cause, but maybe I could be enlightened by someone with a different pov? :)

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Do you think Obama is relishing the chaos, or do you think he is reacting like Der Fuher in the bunker?

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 3:44 AM

…..Die Nachtigall, sie war entfernt,
Der Frühling lockt sie wieder;
Was neues hat sie nicht gelernt,
Singt alte, liebe Lieder.

….The nightingale was far away,
But the spring has tempted her once again;
She has not learned anything new,
So sings old, beloved songs.

……the results are the proof of efficaciousness of actions…… if the end is created – the means don’t matter…..

williamg on November 21, 2013 at 3:58 AM

but what’s their cause? Is this helping or hurting single payer? I know the poll that says that people don’t want the government to ensure a healthcare right…and that’s great

but it is early innings. Greta had some guy on, small business guy, with a sad story..terrible story and barry.care. Listen between the lines…he wants a fix..just like Booker from NJ wants a fix. He wants his people covered..AND…he wants it cheaper because he exports.

Well, what is cheaper to a business that public healthcare..single payer. He can make machines and doesn’t have to screw with this stuff. Greta didn’t pop the question..do you want single payer. I betcha he’d say whatever Works

docs are going to get hammered on how much they make…it is disgusting. The docs i go to add huge value to my life…barry and the leftist pigs? Not so much

early innings

r keller on November 21, 2013 at 3:42 AM

When I see posts like this, I interpret them as, “No matter what the Preezy does, it’s part of the plan. He makes an error in judgement? ChoomCare has to be repealed because the public hates it too much? Why, it’s all part of the plan!” I don’t buy into this mentality. Choom didn’t sign onto SC cases he hoped to lose 9-0, for example. Do you believe Dumbocrat politicians, including Choom himself, are excited about the prospect of losing any of their seats?

To me, he’s a dumb, crude, rank opportunist who pushes for whatever he can get, not a strategic genius. In boxing terms, I see him as a brawler with relatively poor defensive abilities, one who is very vulnerable to boxers who know how to handle him. IOW, he’s like Ricky Hatton, and has a puncher’s i.e. no real chance against someone like Floyd Mayweather, Jr., who has superior all-around skills.

It’s not wise to underestimate the clod, but it’s also not wise to overestimate him.

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 4:54 AM

Do you think Obama is relishing the chaos, or do you think he is reacting like Der Fuher in the bunker?

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 3:44 AM

More the latter, but, I see this as a “false dilemma,” because they aren’t the only 2 choices.

Have you noticed how gray his hair has gotten, and how sickly he has looked recently? He is showing outward signs of a stressed psyche…

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 4:59 AM

infuriating yesterday….NOT ONE PEEP about obama’s low poll numbers….not one from the lsm….it was all about JFK and his legacy or the gop congressman radel and cocaine….

they were peeing in their pants during W’s term and now? meh

good lapdogs…

listening to the lsm last night, W was one of the WORST president ever and Obama is doing just fine *shaking the head*

some idiot said waterboarding was pure tortue and W should have been charged but the increased drone killing under obama was no biggie….I couldn’t believe the crapola they were spewing….

ok…vent off

Good Morning HA!

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 5:11 AM

Good Morning HA!

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 5:11 AM

Morning. Yep the media are lapdogs to the One True Tribe of Progressivism.

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 5:19 AM

boy the lsm is going fullboard on the JFK anniversary…I guess they have their squirrel for the week

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 5:23 AM

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 5:19 AM

indeed

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 5:27 AM

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is currently considering whether to require all new cars to include communication technology that constantly broadcasts a vehicle’s location, speed, and perhaps even the number of passengers inside.

http://rt.com/usa/car-mandate-broadcast-speed-038/

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 5:38 AM

……the results are the proof of efficaciousness of actions…… if the end is created – the means don’t matter…..

williamg on November 21, 2013 at 3:58 AM

Efficiency, in general, describes the extent to which time, effort or cost is well used for the intended task or purpose.

What does “well used” mean to you? ChoomCare & its disastrous rollout is not an example of “efficiency” if it doesn’t end up bringing the leftards closer to their goal of a single-payer system, is it?

Do you believe all efforts toward goals deserve ‘A’s? I ask you because that’s what I thought the discussion here about “efficiency” in which I was involving myself was about…

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 5:49 AM

James O’Keefe
@JamesOKeefeIII
Follow

Might want to cancel your plans tomorrow, @Sebelius. It’s going to be a busy day. @Project_Veritas

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 6:03 AM

James O’Keefe
@JamesOKeefeIII
Follow
Might want to cancel your plans tomorrow, @Sebelius. It’s going to be a busy day. @Project_Veritas
Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 6:03 AM

Oh, hell, yes!

God bless James O’Keefe!

bluegill on November 21, 2013 at 6:04 AM

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 5:38 AM

big brother coming to a vehicle near you….

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 6:05 AM

I took some pictures yesterday of one of those ObamaCare enroll centers and was posting them online. It was a total clownshow, literally. They had a homeless looking guy dressed as a clown on the corner holding a sign that said something like “get healthcare here” pointing to a tent on a street corner next to one of those big wavey tube men that stay upright with air blown up them. It was a sad display. But its pathetic nature made me snicker.

bluegill on November 21, 2013 at 6:12 AM

Three “Knockout” Attacks Reported In Philadelphia Area

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/11/20/three-knockout-game-attacks-reported-in-philadelphia-area/

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 6:32 AM

http://nypost.com/2013/11/20/multi-million-dollar-welfare-fraud-scheme-busted-in-nyc-bodegas/

A multimillion-dollar welfare fraud scheme that has been running rampant in Asian communities throughout the city has been busted, authorities said.

About two dozen delis and bodegas were raided across Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan Wednesday in a joint operation between the federal Department of Homeland Security Investigations, the state Department of Health and the state Attorney General’s Office that uncovered the endemic corruption, sources said.

Sixteen store owners were charged with allegedly purchasing customers’ WIC vouchers and giving the recipient a percentage of the cash value, court documents state.

The store owners would then pocket their cut of the money — usually around 20 percent — when the government reimbursed them for the coupons, sources said.

WIC, or, Women, Infants and Children, is a federally funded assistance program that helps struggling mothers buy essential items such as infant formula, milk or juice.

Twenty-five store owners were taken into custody in connection with the scam and more arrests are expected. Charges for the 16 store owners who appeared in Manhattan federal court Wednesday range from conspiracy to commit theft of government funds to money laundering.

Several hundred thousands of dollars were seized from various personal and business bank accounts — a mere fraction of the estimated $30 million generated by the fraud since 2009, authorities said.

Sources said the scheme was localized specifically in Asian neighborhoods like Sunset Park, Brooklyn, Elmhurst, Queens and Chinatown in Manhattan, with some stores cashing in as many as 25,000 welfare vouchers per month.

Some of the stores’ operations were so lucrative that they sold almost no groceries at all, one source said.

“A lot of these places weren’t just taking a little off the top,” said one source. “This scam was the main source of income for some of these stores. It was fraud on a massive scale.”

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 6:33 AM

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_IRAQ?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

BAGHDAD (AP) — A truck bomb tore through an outdoor vegetable market Thursday in northeastern Iraq, killing at least 27 people, officials said.

The explosion in the town of al-Saadiyah, some 140 kilometers (90 miles) northeast of Baghdad, is the latest in a wave of attacks that has swept across Iraq since April, pushing violence to levels unseen since the country teetered on the brink of civil war in 2006 and 2007.

The violence has killed more than 5,500, according to the United Nations. Thursday’s explosion brings the death toll across the country this month to 271, according to an Associated Press count.

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 6:37 AM

Murphy9…… another day in paradise

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Good Mornin, Patriots! And, Trolls. (I think I saw one on a milk carton)
“Never give a sucker an even break or wisen up a chump.” – W.C. Fields
My take: “Obama and Obamacare: This Way to the Egress”

kingsjester on November 21, 2013 at 6:51 AM

Great take KJ

And the perfect picture too

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 6:55 AM

“The wonder is that Obama’s political team didn’t see this coming

What makes us think that they did and considered this breakdown of America’s health system worthy of their goal to destroy America? Why should this be any different than anything else they contaminated?
They’ve destroyed everything they’ve touched, from the family to the economy, to capitalism, the dollar, trust in the voting structure, news, entertainment, and even the churches which they’ve contaminated with their Marxist centered social justice for Caesar.

Don L on November 21, 2013 at 7:03 AM

cmsinaz on November 21, 2013 at 6:55 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on November 21, 2013 at 7:04 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/20/Sowell-A-Very-Dangerous-Game

New York City police authorities are investigating a series of unprovoked physical attacks in public places on people who are Jewish, in the form of what is called “the knockout game.”

The way the game is played, one of a number of young blacks decides to show that he can knock down some stranger on the streets, preferably with one punch, as they pass by. Often some other member of the group records the event, so that a video of that “achievement” is put on the Internet, to be celebrated.

Murphy9 on November 21, 2013 at 7:31 AM

That’s because federal officials were so eager to approve insurer health plans for the exchanges, they didn’t ask how many doctors, hospitals, labs and clinics were participating in each plan, according to a key health insurance industry trade association executive…

Are you kidding? Seems like some lynchpin information. The idiots where crossing their fingers and squinting their eyes on Oct 1st evidently praying for a miracle.

Inept.

smoothsailing on November 21, 2013 at 7:37 AM

Obama and Obamacare: This Way to the Egress

kingsjester on November 21, 2013 at 6:51 AM

Hey that’s a great title KJ.

Here is the rest of the story by KingsJester.

KJ keeps blogging everyday with more great stuff.

SparkPlug on November 21, 2013 at 7:51 AM

My take: “Obama and Obamacare: This Way to the Egress”

kingsjester on November 21, 2013 at 6:51 AM

…and to think…I felt bad for Joe Wilson!

KOOLAID2 on November 21, 2013 at 7:51 AM

“Back in 2010, I wrote a number columns questioning the other survey put out each month by the Labor Department. It’s called the Establishment Survey because it queries businesses about job creation. This is the survey which decided, for instance, that there were 204,000 jobs created last month.

The Labor Department conducts the Establishment Survey itself, which, in my opinion, makes it much more reputable. But the Census Bureau had a trick up its sleeve in 2010 that I believe was affecting the Labor Department’s Establishment Survey. (My gripes with this survey have always been about statistical tricks, like the so-called birth/death model, and not outright deception.)

The decennial census was being conducted from 2008 to 2010, and a lot of part-time workers were needed to knock on doors to get information. What Census appeared to be doing was hiring people for very short periods of time, then letting them go only to rehire them.

This churning seemed odd and not very efficient because these census takers were required to go through a relatively long training period whenever they came back to work.

But each “hiring” showed up as a created job. What’s more, that census taker who was let go, even if she was soon to be rehired, didn’t qualify for unemployment insurance and never showed up as someone who’d lost her job.

The Census Bureau, obviously, denied everything at the time and that story never got much traction because it was a little too complicated to fit into the evening news.

Congress is now looking into the story I broke earlier this week about Census’ manipulation of the unemployment rate survey. One former census worker says he was told by a superior to fake data that went into the survey. The superior denied it.

The House Oversight Committee is now on the case, looking to talk with my anonymous source who claims the ex-census worker, Julius Buckmon, was just the tip of the iceberg and that others were also fabricating data. Moreover, the committee is curious about the hiring and firing of workers during the decennial census.

Here’s something from one of the many field managers for the 2010 census: “As a former manager in the decennial census, I witnessed operations that strongly suggested the Census Bureau manipulated nationwide hiring of tens of thousands of temporary workers to manipulate employment data in 2008 and 2009,” Ron Brochu wrote me in an email.

“Operations that were to include 200 area workers for six weeks suddenly became ones in which 1,200 workers were to complete the work in 10 days. This was just for northern Minnesota,” Brochu wrote. “Multiply that by the entire nation … and it can tip the scales.

“The entire organization was a rat’s nest run by political order-takers who often bent rules,” he told me when I spoke to him Wednesday…

Complaints ranged from veterans not getting the job preference they were promised to training material being substandard and conflicting,

And because workers were subject to very serious fines if they spoke out in public, few did.

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A lot of news organizations have been trying to follow up on my story about the former census field representative who said he was told by a superior to fake data that went into the calculation of the unemployment rate.

And many media organizations are falling back on the old cop-out — that the former rep was a rogue creating an isolated instance of manipulation. That one person in one office couldn’t possibly move the US unemployment rate.

We’ll see when the full investigation is done, won’t we?…”

http://nypost.com/2013/11/21/census-fakegate-goes-back-even-further/

workingclass artist on November 21, 2013 at 7:57 AM

SparkPlug on November 21, 2013 at 7:51 AM

Thank you, my friend!

kingsjester on November 21, 2013 at 8:41 AM

boy the lsm is going fullboard on the JFK anniversary…

They should do a compare and contrast:

Kennedy – promised to put a man on the moon, then put a man on the moon.

Obama – Three years and millions of dollars and couldn’t even get a website right.

CaptFlood on November 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM

They didn’t ask insurers about doctors and hospitals in the plans because they don’t/can’t think outside the box of their agenda. They don’t care if pain is inflicted in the lives of ordinary Americans or if the old or really ill are affected. They are heartless and vile individuals.

Kissmygrits on November 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Censusgate. In other words, things could be and probably are worse off than we think we know. Rumsfeld hit it right. There are a lot of things we don’t know that we don’t know about.

Kissmygrits on November 21, 2013 at 9:50 AM

bluefox on November 21, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 2:09 AM

I stated that I think Obamacare was planned and you think it was just thrown together and they didn’t know what they were doing?

I would agree on the website disaster. However, not the content of the bill. I was heavily involved in that for several months of 2009 and watched it all. I heard most all of the debates on various sections of the bill, along with videos. That’s why I say it was planned.

What was not planned is the revealing of all the Democrats did to destroy the Health Care of this Country.

But like the peeling of an onion, you eventually get to the core. Day by day, we are getting there and we’re seeing the evil.

bluefox on November 21, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Anyone here who believes the Preezy has been efficient as he goes about attempting to fundamentally transform America: do you think the troubles ChoomCare has had during it’s rollout are helping the leftards achieve their goal of single-payer, hurting their goal, or making no difference at all toward that goal?

I’ll be honest, I don’t presently understand how anyone could believe the disastrous rollout is doing anything other than hurting their cause, but maybe I could be enlightened by someone with a different pov? :)

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Simple enough to explain:

Roll this disastrous plan out as Obowma blames insurance company greed for the excess costs and failures of healthcare “run by greed over the needs of the folks”, which are really the fault of the plans demands and excessive one size fits all requirements. The liberal media repeats the storyline and deflects the blame from Obowmacare, which is conveniently called the ACA again, onto the greedy insurance companies for their 3% profits (note: the federal government STEALS 55% of our money). The government has no option but to come to the rescue of “folks”, Obowma’s favorite term used to sound genuine, and takeover the healthcare industry as insurance companies fold under the costs. Government runs all student loan programs and regulates 1/6 of the US economy.

dthorny on November 21, 2013 at 11:49 AM

I stated that I think Obamacare was planned and you think it was just thrown together and they didn’t know what they were doing?

I would agree on the website disaster. However, not the content of the bill. I was heavily involved in that for several months of 2009 and watched it all. I heard most all of the debates on various sections of the bill, along with videos. That’s why I say it was planned.

What was not planned is the revealing of all the Democrats did to destroy the Health Care of this Country.

But like the peeling of an onion, you eventually get to the core. Day by day, we are getting there and we’re seeing the evil.

bluefox on November 21, 2013 at 10:59 AM

This is what you first said that caused my response:

Even if enough Doctors are willing to go on a Cash basis, what about Hospital/Equipment access? Well, there are many Hospitals closing due to Obamacare, so many those can re-open?

Just a disaster and to think all of this was planned on purpose.

bluefox on November 21, 2013 at 1:50 AM

You are aware that the ACA has required numerous revisions since it was passed. Do you believe the included errors/miscalculations, which later needed fixing/readjusting, were intentional ones? Unless you believe part of their plan was to greatly upset the electorate to the point that it hurts them politically, and that all of the stress Dumbocrat politicians are currently experiencing is faked, it’s safe to say that they didn’t know exactly what they are doing.

I roughly see it like the Preezy wanted to set some fires, but wasn’t smart enough to refrain from starting them when the wind was blowing strongly in his direction. IOW, he is now being burned because of his own stupidity, with which he was too unaware to have concerned himself in the first place. It’s the Dunning-Kruger effect on display.

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Simple enough to explain:

Roll this disastrous plan out as Obowma blames insurance company greed for the excess costs and failures of healthcare “run by greed over the needs of the folks”, which are really the fault of the plans demands and excessive one size fits all requirements. The liberal media repeats the storyline and deflects the blame from Obowmacare, which is conveniently called the ACA again, onto the greedy insurance companies for their 3% profits (note: the federal government STEALS 55% of our money). The government has no option but to come to the rescue of “folks”, Obowma’s favorite term used to sound genuine, and takeover the healthcare industry as insurance companies fold under the costs. Government runs all student loan programs and regulates 1/6 of the US economy.

dthorny on November 21, 2013 at 11:49 AM

This is a prognostication of what you believe will end up happening, not a refutation of my point.

How is the disastrous rollout helping them achieve single-payer?

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:19 PM

dthorny, when I asked you, “How is the disastrous rollout helping them achieve single-payer?” I was really asking, do you believe that their own incompetent mistakes are helping rather then hindering them?

That doesn’t make any sense to me, especially if it hurts them politically, which is what is currently happening…

Anti-Control on November 21, 2013 at 3:24 PM

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