WaPo/ABC poll shows Obama approval tumbling, competence suspect

posted at 9:21 am on November 19, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

When I left on vacation two weeks ago, Barack Obama’s poll numbers had started turning sour.  On my first day back, Obama’s plunge has caught up with the Washington Post/ABC poll, where a majority of voters disapprove of his overall performance for the first time in over a year, and a new low approve at 42/55. The poll also shows the highest level ever of opposition to ObamaCare:

The flawed rollout of the Affordable Care Act has pushed President Obama to the lowest point of his presidency, with dwindling faith in his competence and in many of the personal attributes that have buoyed him in the past, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Opposition to the new health-care law also hit a record high in the survey, with 57 percent saying they oppose the president’s most significant domestic initiative. Forty-six percent say they are strongly against it. Just a month ago, as the enrollment period was beginning, the public was almost evenly divided in its assessments of the law.

Disapproval of Obama’s handling of the health-care law’s rollout stands at 63 percent, with a majority saying they strongly disapprove. Last month, 53 percent disapproved.

The findings are the first since Obama’s news conference last week in which he repeatedly acknowledged his and the administration’s mistakes in handling the legislation. He also sought to assuage the anger among millions of Americans whose individual policies were canceled because they did not meet the new requirements.

Clearly, the apology offered belatedly last week to millions of Americans who discovered that Obama’s “you can keep your plan” promise was a baldfaced lie isn’t doing anything to contain the damage. The wonder might be that his approval level is still above 40%, although it’s good to remember that the WaPo/ABC series is one of the more sympathetic to Obama on overall approval.  Quinnipiac put him at 39% last week, nad both Pew and National Journal put Obama’s approval under 40% the week before that. His RCP average has descended to 40.8%, and there isn’t much reason to believe that he’ll bounce back soon.

To that point, Obama’s sub-category approvals look even worse:

  • Economy – 41/57
  • ObamaCare implementation – 33/63
  • Strong leader – 46/53
  • Understands your problems – 47/51
  • Honest and trustworthy – 47/50
  • Good manager – 41/56

About the only positive from this poll is that people still believe that Obama believed what he said when he promised that people could keep their plans, at least by a thin margin at 52/44. That’s not reflected in his underwater honesty assessment, though, and the upshot of that is that Obama is incompetent rather than dishonest.  And it doesn’t buy Democrats much, either, since people are much more likely to vote against a Congressional candidate who supports ObamaCare (37/21).

In short, this is a disastrous poll reading.  The White House will like the new poll from National Journal much better, not because it helps them but because it doesn’t hurt quite as badly:

Despite sharp divisions over the long-term impact of President Obama’s health-reform law, fewer than two in five Americans say it should be repealed, virtually unchanged since last summer, the latest United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection Poll has found.

Amid all the tumult over the law’s troubled implementation, the survey found that public opinion about it largely follows familiar political tracks and has changed remarkably little since the summer on the critical question of what Congress should do next. On that measure, support for repeal has not significantly increased among any major group except Republicans and working-class whites since the Congressional Connection Poll last tested opinion on the question in July.

While the survey found a slim majority believes the law will do more to hurt than help the nation’s health care system over time, it also found the statute retains majority support among key elements of the modern Democratic coalition, including minorities, college-educated white women, and young people. That means Congressional Democrats inclined to distance themselves from the law in the hope of placating skeptical independent or Republican-leaning voters face the risk of alienating some of their core supporters.

Conversely, the overwhelming opposition to the law within the GOP coalition—with nearly nine in 10 self-identified Republicans calling the law “fundamentally flawed” and nearly three-fourths of them supporting its repeal—ensures that Republican legislators will continue to face grassroots pressure to roll it back, by any means available.

The White House will point out that only 38% want the law repealed in this poll, but that’s inched up slightly from 36% in mid-July.  The actual breakout, though, is whether to repeal it, wait a bit longer to see what happens, or to commit more money to it to fix the problems.  Only 23% support that last option, while 35% want to see just how bad it gets before taking any action. Among independents, 40% want full repeal now, 35% want to wait a little longer, and just 20% want more money allocated to ObamaCare implementation. Only 42% of Democrats want to commit more money to ObamaCare’s implementation at this point, and that’s the highest of any of the subgroups.


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What goes up…..

Electrongod on November 19, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Hope he tanks worse than Carter. Good to see you back, Ed…

OmahaConservative on November 19, 2013 at 9:22 AM

We are failing him more and more by the day. :(

Murphy9 on November 19, 2013 at 9:23 AM

When I left on vacation two weeks ago, Barack Obama’s poll numbers had started turning sour.

Does the place seem cheerier?

kcewa on November 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM

The millstone is getting heavier and heavier.

Flange on November 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM

“Competence suspect.” Now there’s an understatement.

chewmeister on November 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Obviously our souls were so broken that even a god-king couldn’t fix them, and Big Mooch is decidedly not proud of the nation any longer.

Bishop on November 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

For the first time I’m not sure who’s giving the beating until whose morale improves.

ConDem on November 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM

About the only positive from this poll is that people still believe that Obama believed what he said when he promised that people could keep their plans, at least by a thin margin at 52/44.

Too many Americans are too unwilling (minorities) or too afraid (whites) to call a black guy dishonest.

Don’t forget: some sage black guy said we’re supposed to judge people based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

BuckeyeSam on November 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

WaPo Poll: Mitt Romney beats President Obama today

sentinelrules on November 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Strong leader – 46/53
Understands your problems – 47/51
Honest and trustworthy – 47/50

That 47% figure might as well be etched in stone.

WASS

antipc on November 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

That National Journal poll was taken 2 weeks ago. Not sure why it’s being released now.

dforston on November 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Clearly, the apology offered belatedly last week to millions of Americans who discovered that Obama’s “you can keep your plan” promise was a baldfaced lie isn’t doing anything to contain the damage.

Well maybe because “Sorry if you stupid enough to believe me all those years” is an 80% apology at best.

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

I wonder what he is going to pivot to next. He has already pivoted to Jobs about 27 times, so that is out.

Johnnyreb on November 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Welcome back, Ed.

Chris of Rights on November 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

For the first time in Obama’s presidency, a bare majority of Americans, 52 percent, say they have an unfavorable impression of him, with 46 percent saying they view him favorably. Those ratings have declined from a net positive of 23 points at the time of his inauguration in January.

On three measures of leadership and empathy that have been tested repeatedly in Post-ABC polls, Obama now is underwater on all three for the first time. Half or more now say he is not a strong leader, does not understand the problems of “people like you,” and is not honest and trustworthy. Perceptions of the president as a strong leader have dropped 15 points since January, and over the past year the percentage of registered voters who say he is not honest and trustworthy has increased 12 points.

He needs a hug. Is Christie available?

kcewa on November 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Welcome back Ed, maybe you should leave more often so we can tank the One’s numbers even more? :P

thebrokenrattle on November 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Out of the rough and into the sand trap….

Off of the rim and over the backboard….

Every lobster has its pot. (It’s feeding time, Moochelle…)

The chickunnnnns have come home to rooost! – Revrum’ Wrong

So bad that Hahvahd now says they’ve never heard of him being there (either).

viking01 on November 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Strong leader – 46/53
Understands your problems – 47/51
Honest and trustworthy – 47/50

Those numbers still baffle me.

Those Obamaphones must be damn good phones.

mankai on November 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Another all time low for Obama on RCP today, -13.8

Really, you have to look at the chart on RCP to appreciate it. The change in the last 3 weeks is absolutely stunning.

Chris of Rights on November 19, 2013 at 9:36 AM

The lesson, as always, celebrity Presidents don’t work out so well.

Think the voters will learn?

Bitter Clinger on November 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Welcome back Ed, maybe you should leave more often so we can tank the One’s numbers even more? :P

thebrokenrattle on November 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

It’s only weird…if it doesn’t work. :)

22044 on November 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Any president who says he “understands my problems” is either a liar, or is using NSA data. Neither would be good.

A president who does or advocates anything outside his Article II responsibilities is unfit for the job.

Akzed on November 19, 2013 at 9:39 AM

The lazy stupid coward has one thing on his calendar today- a speech to a bunch of CEOs this afternoon.

He’s snubbed going to the 150th ceremony for the Gettysburg Address (though he will be showing up to further the mythology about the relevance and greatness of JFK). Obamacare is crashing around him and even getting “briefed” on that is not on his schedule. Nor is anything out of Jarretts secret (and possibly illegal) negotiations with Iran. Nothing today but a tiny rote speech.

And then there is wonderment why the rat-eared bastard’s competence is called into question.

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

It’s about time the despicable Marxist pig gets his comeuppance.

csdeven on November 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

ObamaCare implementation – 33/63

The 47% is down to 33%. I should change my economic approval vote to yes.

blammm on November 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Think the voters will learn?

Bitter Clinger on November 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

If Miley Cyrus was running……
She would be the next president..

Electrongod on November 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Obviously our souls were so broken that even a god-king couldn’t fix them, and Big Mooch is decidedly not proud of the nation any longer.

Bishop on November 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Yep!

The Oprah…High Priestess of the Hopey Change Chicago Jeebus Cult sez all us raaacists have to die before things get better or something…

workingclass artist on November 19, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Dog Eater did say yesterday in his DeathCare phone conference that 100 million people had already signed up, why would his approval numbers be so low with that sort of turnout….strange.

Bishop on November 19, 2013 at 9:42 AM

…..Despite sharp divisions over the long-term impact of President Obama’s health-reform law, fewer than two in five Americans say it should be repealed, virtually unchanged since last summer,……

Hard to imagine the level of stupidity among today’s voters.

rodguy911 on November 19, 2013 at 9:43 AM

competence suspect

Competence, Schmompetence… the most important thing is that the next president be a woman or Hispanic or gay or have AIDS or be an Indigenous American offended by the name Redskins (hope that word makes it through the filters).

That’s the answer to America’s problems.

/Poly Sci 101

mankai on November 19, 2013 at 9:43 AM

“Competence suspect”. Really Ed, that’s what you get out of these numbers? How about “lack of competence drives majority to conclude SCOAMF can’t find his tail end with both hands”.

And “ObamaCare opposition peaking”. That’s such a crazed statement that I wonder if you’re really Ed Schultz and not Ed Morrissey. If this is the “peaking” of opposition to ObamaCare we are in even bigger trouble than I had thought.

Oh, and welcome back from vacation.

MTF on November 19, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Nor is anything out of Jarretts secret (and possibly illegal) negotiations with Iran. Nothing today but a tiny rote speech.

And then there is wonderment why the rat-eared bastard’s competence is called into question.

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Nobody talking about this either: Benghazi seems “to have happened a long time ago”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3092463/posts

rodguy911 on November 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Too many Americans are too unwilling (minorities) or too afraid (whites) to call a black guy dishonest.

Don’t forget: some sage black guy said we’re supposed to judge people based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

BuckeyeSam on November 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

And to think that people feel the MLK would be proud of what is going on now.

Dr. Frank Enstine on November 19, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Strong leader – 46/53
Understands your problems – 47/51
Honest and trustworthy – 47/50

Those numbers still baffle me.

Those Obamaphones must be damn good phones.

mankai on November 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

It is still “fashionable” to give these answers.

RushBaby on November 19, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Think the voters will learn?

Bitter Clinger on November 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

If Miley Cyrus was running……
She would be the next president..

Electrongod on November 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

My thought as well.

Bitter Clinger on November 19, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Strong leader – 46/53
Understands your problems – 47/51
Honest and trustworthy – 47/50

Those numbers still baffle me.

Those Obamaphones must be damn good phones.

mankai on November 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

His parasitic constituency are overwhelmed by the decline of their messiah and they refuse to let go.

rplat on November 19, 2013 at 9:51 AM

That 47% figure might as well be etched in stone.

WASS

antipc on November 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

I no longer believe any polls. Either the polling companies are in the pocket of BO or they are afraid of BO. They publish results that are bad but not as bad as it really is. People are also afraid of BO. My wife owns a business is is always on walking on eggshells with clients. She is very afraid after being threatened because she made an of hand comment that did not praise BO. My daughter who is a school teacher says that the pressure to be pro BO is nearly overwhelming at the schools. I think people are starting to see what is going on and are starting to be afraid.

Dr. Frank Enstine on November 19, 2013 at 9:52 AM

Ed’s back? Quick…clean up and toss the empties out the window for now. :)

Obama approval tumbling, competence suspect

They’re just finding that out now?

JetBoy on November 19, 2013 at 9:52 AM

I just went over to post on the ABC thread, and though it showed my discus name it came back with a big red message saying, “You do not have permission to post on this thread.”

claudius on November 19, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Honest and trustworthy – 47/50

WTF?
Mass psychosis?
Poll of special needs children?
Stoners?

talkingpoints on November 19, 2013 at 9:54 AM

That National Journal poll was taken 2 weeks ago. Not sure why it’s being released now.

dforston on November 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

They needed time to fudge the numbers higher without it looking like they did.

Dr. Frank Enstine on November 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM

just went over to post on the ABC thread, and though it showed my discus name it came back with a big red message saying, “You do not have permission to post on this thread.”

claudius on November 19, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Dissent is verboten.

chewmeister on November 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM

OT: Pray for Creigh Deeds. Some very jarring news breaking on Twitter.

Eric Kolenich ‏@EricKolenichRTD 4m

Sen. Creigh Deeds was stabbed and his son was killed in a shooting: http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/sen-deeds-critically-wounded-son-dead-from-gunshot-wound/article_431e61ca-5128-11e3-944a-001a4bcf6878.html
]

Gingotts on November 19, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Obviously our souls were so broken that even a god-king couldn’t fix them, and Big Mooch is decidedly not proud of the nation any longer.

Bishop on November 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM

We should resign and let the government elect a new people.

kcewa on November 19, 2013 at 9:58 AM

It is still “fashionable” to give these answers.

RushBaby on November 19, 2013 at 9:47 AM

I wouldn’t say it’s still fashionable, but there’s a lag in people getting the message that it’s OK to hate on obozo. Now that SNL and Jon Stewart, and their ilk are taking jabs at him, the word is getting out that it’s lame to like obozo and it will drop pretty quick. And the ones that are holding out for him, are the most insufferable of the lot. If and when they turn, it will be ugly.

Flange on November 19, 2013 at 9:59 AM

OT: Pray for Creigh Deeds. Some very jarring news breaking on Twitter.

Eric Kolenich ‏@EricKolenichRTD 4m

Sen. Creigh Deeds was stabbed and his son was killed in a shooting: http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/sen-deeds-critically-wounded-son-dead-from-gunshot-wound/article_431e61ca-5128-11e3-944a-001a4bcf6878.html
]

Oof. Terrible news – thank you for sharing.

22044 on November 19, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Strong leader – 46/53
Understands your problems – 47/51
Honest and trustworthy – 47/50

This is explained by this:

She says she wants to make it clear she has no beef with Obama and Obamacare. She still believes in the Affordable Care Act. “I don’t want this to be a political thing,” she says. “I don’t want to be bashing the president. I don’t want to be bashing the ACA. I don’t want to come across as saying that. I am a big Obama fan.

From the Washington State Wire article in your healdine section right now. My guess is they are not polling employers to any great extent.

DaveDief on November 19, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Forget the Keystone pipeline…we need a popcorn pipeline…

Our shelves are decimated with out of stock popcorn…

Sit back and watch the total destruction, dismantling of the Obama administration…

I keep saying it can’t get worse, and it is getting worse beyond my expectations and hope.

right2bright on November 19, 2013 at 10:01 AM

If Obama played football, he’d look like Leon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BkIh1R5utY

NoPain on November 19, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Gingotts on November 19, 2013 at 9:56 AM

OMG! Things like this don’t happen in Bath County. I’m guessing we don’t know the whole story yet.

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Chris of Rights on November 19, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Great link on the RCP average. The chart is incredibly compelling. I LOVE IT. Thinking about framing that bad boy of any libs that might wander by my office!

HomeoftheBrave on November 19, 2013 at 10:02 AM

We should resign and let the government elect a new people.

kcewa on November 19, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Good ol’ Bertolt.

Bishop on November 19, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Gingotts on November 19, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Wow. Prayers ascending…

OmahaConservative on November 19, 2013 at 10:03 AM

And yet the statists in the GOP continue to support this God-forsaken law.

HiJack on November 19, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Dr. Frank Enstine on November 19, 2013 at 9:52 AM

She should be a teacher out here where mentioning Common Core to faculty at student conferences will earn you a snort and rolling of the eyes from the teachers themselves.

When the collapse occurs I just hope we can hold the county borders long enough for the women and children to evacuate north before the hordes overrun us.

Bishop on November 19, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Dog Eater did say yesterday in his DeathCare phone conference that 100 million people had already signed up, why would his approval numbers be so low with that sort of turnout….strange.

Bishop on November 19, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Glitch on the OFA website as well…so only 12 or so brownshirts heard him. The rest had to read about it this morning.

workingclass artist on November 19, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Ken Burns’ Gettysburg Address project has 58 people of all political stripes from Marco Rubio to David Dinkins reading Lincoln’s famous speech. Guess which rat-eared lazy coward took “under God” out of the speech.

That’s right, Obama edited Lincoln so that he wouldn’t have to mention God. Link

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Heh. ‘Dwindling faith’. I’ve got no faith in him at all. He may be the most perfectly incompetent boob, evah.

trigon on November 19, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Too funny…

“The event on Monday was intended to offer Mr. Obama’s most ardent supporters a chance to hear directly from him. It was the latest conference call to be hosted by Organizing for Action, the nonprofit group that grew out of the president’s 2012 campaign organization.

“I am confident that by the end of this month, [Healthcare.gov is] going to be functioning for the vast majority of folks,” Mr. Obama said. “Despite all the noise out there, despite all the criticism, despite all the setbacks, I’ve never lost faith in our ability to get this done.”

But many people who logged in said they could not hear anything, with the website reporting “connection failure” over and over again. It was unclear how many people could listen to the call. An official with the group gave a New York Times reporter, who also could not hear anything on the website, a telephone number to call and listen in.

At the same time, a chat board on the website began filling up with messages:

“I can’t hear any audio?”

“Is everyone getting the ‘reconnecting’ message?”

“I did refresh twice — still no sound.”

“WHERES THE SOUND YO?”

One supporter pleaded, “Don’t tell me there are troubles with this live event like there were with the Obamacare website!!!!!”

http://ace.mu.nu/

workingclass artist on November 19, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Ken Burns’ Gettysburg Address project has 58 people of all political stripes from Marco Rubio to David Dinkins reading Lincoln’s famous speech. Guess which rat-eared lazy coward took “under God” out of the speech.

That’s right, Obama edited Lincoln so that he wouldn’t have to mention God. Link

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Most of them are libs, but at least all of the others followed the protocal to read the whole address, huh?

22044 on November 19, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Most of them are libs, but at least all of the others followed the protocal to read the whole address, huh?

22044 on November 19, 2013 at 10:23 AM

There are certain things you do not do. Editing the Gettysburg Address isn’t one of them.

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 10:25 AM

WaPo/ABC poll shows Obama approval tumbling, competence criminal suspect

FIFY.

TXUS on November 19, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Because in the pantheon of great preznits and their great speeches, Lincoln isn’t worthy of licking Dog Eater’s shoes.

If anything there should be a site where people recite Bark’s Cairo Speech while muslim calls to prayer play softly in the background.

Bishop on November 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Those numbers still baffle me.

Those Obamaphones must be damn good phones.

mankai on November 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Most of these people have never heard of Fast and Furious, don’t know about the IRS or NSA scandals, and don’t really know about anything Obama’s done. This stuff going on with Obamacare is the general public noticing for the first time that something is wrong in Washington.

Doomberg on November 19, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Frpm article:
91% of Democrats like ObamaCare.
84% of non White like ObamaCare.

albill on November 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Because in the pantheon of great preznits and their great speeches, Lincoln isn’t worthy of licking Dog Eater’s shoes.

Bishop on November 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Yeah but Lincoln made the lazy stupid one’s top four list along with LBJ, FDR, and himself.

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Most of these people have never heard of Fast and Furious,

Doomberg on November 19, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Nonsense that’s the movie starring Vin Diesel. I’m quite sure the LIVs have at least heard of it.

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Yahoo bleeds. “The Rs are bad too, there”

Still, the land is inhabited by a lot of fools. His ratings s/b at 20 approval, at the most.

Schadenfreude on November 19, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Here’s the link.

Schadenfreude on November 19, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Five years.

Some people are just always late to the show and enjoy lots and lots of cartoons before the main feature.

Tsar of Earth on November 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Welcome to the preference cascade …

PackerBronco on November 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM

After seeing the new poll showing Romney tying Obama nation wide…I wonder how many of those who didn’t vote for Romney because he is a RINO have now decided that he wasn’t so bad after all? Especially since he was 100% correct about Obamacare.

csdeven on November 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM

…..just went over to post on the ABC thread, and though it showed my discus name it came back with a big red message saying, “You do not have permission to post on this thread.”

claudius on November 19, 2013 at 9:53 AM

You are not alone. Even on some of the “conservative” websites (AT) selective enforcement is going on all too often.

rodguy911 on November 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM

“The wonder might be that his approval level is still above 40%…”

I refuse to consider any polling result that includes data collected from ObamaPhones.

Tsar of Earth on November 19, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Doesn’t give a rat’s patootie about your problems: 100/0
Of course, they will throw more money at the problem. That’s always worked in the past, right.

Kissmygrits on November 19, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Ken Burns’ Gettysburg Address project has 58 people of all political stripes from Marco Rubio to David Dinkins reading Lincoln’s famous speech. Guess which rat-eared lazy coward took “under God” out of the speech.

That’s right, Obama edited Lincoln so that he wouldn’t have to mention God. Link

Happy Nomad on November 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM

I was curious about this, so I went to the link you provided. I thought, surely Obama wouldn’t be that blatant.

What I found (just by reading the info on the site) is that there are four versions of the speech, and that Obama was asked to read the first draft version that did not have any reference to God.

If we’re going to criticize Obama, we need to make valid points, otherwise we look like crazies ourselves!

digitalhap on November 19, 2013 at 11:24 AM

WaPo/ABC poll shows Obama approval tumbling, competence suspect

Wow, there must be even more racists out there than even 0prah imagined!

It’s OK, according to her, the world will be a better place when everyone who doesn’t like 0bama dies.

UltimateBob on November 19, 2013 at 11:42 AM

After seeing the new poll showing Romney tying Obama nation wide…I wonder how many of those who didn’t vote for Romney because he is a RINO have now decided that he wasn’t so bad after all? Especially since he was 100% correct about Obamacare.

csdeven on November 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM

I saw a great comment on another forum. This sums up exactly the problem the Repubs have:

“but they keep winning elections” Of course they do, because come election time they come together, even if they have to hold their noses. On the Republican side, millions will find some wrong with the nominee, too conservative, not conservative enough, had the wrong position 10 years ago, whatever and stay home while screaming they are all the same. You want to win elections? Fight like hell to get your candidate nominated but support the nominee.

A+

Del Dolemonte on November 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Del Dolemonte on November 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM

I think until we can find a candidate that is 100% (or close to it) conservative, we have to vote for the lesser of two evils. The establishment GOP will NEVER get the message to move to the right because they will remain powerful irrespective of who is POTUS or holds houses of congress. These people are corrupt, both sides of the isle, and cannot change for fear of being outed by the powers that fund their elections.

csdeven on November 19, 2013 at 11:57 AM

WaPo Poll: Mitt Romney beats President Obama today

sentinelrules on November 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

WaPo private polls don’t count dead people, multiple voters, 120% overvotes in the corrupt inner Democratic cities, wealthy liberals and students voting in multiple locations, nursing-home votes, Doodad Pro votes, etc, so I’m skeptical that Romney could beat the REB today in a typical crooked American election.

slickwillie2001 on November 19, 2013 at 12:22 PM

A+

Del Dolemonte on November 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Republicans keep talking about winning elections as if that will change something. There is no evidence that is true, as far as the big picture goes.

Meremortal on November 19, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Rush is talking about this now.

Del Dolemonte on November 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM

“You want to win elections?”

Given the current crop of Republicans (in general) no I do not.

They are worthless. The Red-Blue farce must end with the defeat of all incumbent-career-corrupt politicans.

In the meantime it’s best that Democrats own what’s coming down the pike.

Go read the Republican Platform, it’s a joke. What is the position on Obamacare?

Meremortal on November 19, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Lots of Weapons-Grade Democrat Stupid on display in the WaPo comments, especially from such idiots as “BlackJoule” and “CrashTestSmartie”.

My fave: This howler from a lady calling herself “Kettle2″. Kettle1 was much funnier.

CBS NEWS YOU ARE SO FULL OF IT….OBAMA IS MORE POPULAR NOW THAN HE WAS WHEN HE WONE………….YOUR SO WRONG. GYESS WE KNOW WHERE YOUR BREAD IS BUTTERED.

Del Dolemonte on November 19, 2013 at 1:42 PM

“Competence suspect…”, Oh, they are just now getting that?????

jake49 on November 19, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Honest and trustworthy – 47/50

How the HELL is this still that high?!?

Aren’t these tools paying attention?!?

RedNewEnglander on November 19, 2013 at 2:36 PM

How the HELL is this still that high?!?

Aren’t these tools paying attention?!?

RedNewEnglander on November 19, 2013 at 2:36 PM

He gave us a phoooone!

If you on soc sekuti dzabiliti

Keep Obama in preznit, know what im sayinnnnnnnnnn!

Murphy9 on November 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM

The poll’s D/R/I sampling was 31/24/37, which may explain why Obama and ObamaCare did not do even worse.

Colony14 on November 19, 2013 at 6:23 PM

The poll’s D/R/I sampling was 31/24/37, which may explain why Obama and ObamaCare did not do even worse.

Colony14 on November 19, 2013 at 6:23 PM

A C-BS/WaPo “poll” that oversamples Democrats? Claude Rains could not be reached for comment.

Del Dolemonte on November 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM