Great news: In an alternate universe where the 2012 election is being held today, Romney wins

posted at 8:01 pm on November 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

A silly — but not entirely worthless — addendum to Ed’s post this morning about the dismal new ABC/WaPo for O. Beyond the dumb topline number showing Romney “winning” 49/45 (331 electoral votes!!!) lies some ominous news for The One: He’s losing his base.

* Obama won women in 2012 by 11 points, according to exit polls; today he leads by one point.

* He has seen his lead among young voters (18-39 years old) drop from 18 percent to 2 percent…

* Among those making less than $50,000, Obama’s 22-point lead is now three points.

* The biggest drop is among those professing to have no religion. While this group backed Obama by 44 points, it now supports him by a 22-point margin.

I included the data point on religious unaffiliateds for fun (can’t go wrong tossing atheism into a blog post) even though it’s almost certainly just a proxy for disaffection among liberals generally. The more significant data is the downturn among young voters and the lower middle class. ABC has a bit more about the former:

At the same time, there’s also one core support group in which Obama is hurting – young adults, a group he won by an historic margin in 2008, and strongly again in 2012. The president’s overall approval rating has lost 23 points among adults age 18 to 29 since January, his steepest loss in any group. Their view that the country’s headed in the wrong direction has gained 20 points since May. And in just the past month, opposition to the health care law has jumped by 16 points among under-30s, with strong opposition up by 21 points.

Hard to say how much of that is a direct result of discontent with ObamaCare and how much of it is discontent over other policies influencing their perceptions of ObamaCare. Every poll I’ve seen since the shutdown shows O, like the GOP, taking a beating on questions about his handling of the economy, which is the last subject on which a president wants to see slippage. Lose people on that metric and you’ll lose them on nearly everything. Could be that’s what we’re seeing here — although it would stand to reason that there’s a backlash brewing among young adults to ObamaCare. I’m skeptical that it’s happening already just because many “young healthies” aren’t paying attention to the mandate yet; come next April, when they’re forced to either paying an insurance company for coverage or pay Uncle Sam a fine, you’ll see it then. But the fact that even a liberal cohort like young adults has soured for the moment on O’s big boondoggle shows how much work he has to do to turn things around. Given the other pitfalls facing Democrats on health care, there’s no reason to think he’ll succeed.

Even more intriguing, though, is watching the lower middle class peel away. It’s easy to see why the young might turn on O-Care: Gradually, they’re waking up to the fact that the new health-care regime is built on their premiums specifically, in the hope/expectation that they’ll rarely use the coverage they’re now paying for. They’re the cash cows of ObamaCare, forced to kick in a chunk of their monthly income when decent-paying jobs are already hard enough to come by for a twentysomething. The lower middle class, however, is in a different position. They’re the “winners” in the new regime theoretically thanks to the federal subsidies they’re now in line for. And yet, as Phil Klein points out on Twitter, support for ObamaCare itself among people who make less than $50,000 a year now stands at … 38/59. Maybe that’s a simple function of the fact that the subsidies haven’t begun to flow yet; once people get signed up and get their money from Uncle Sam, things will turn around. I don’t know, though — the woman from Washington state who’s in the news today was crushed when she found out that she was eligible for a federal subsidy but that it wasn’t enough to make her new premium payment a comfortable monthly expense. That could be a recurring phenomenon among the lower middle class — unhappiness that they’ve gotten a little help from the feds but not enough to keep their knees buckling under the financial weight of their new health-insurance obligations. Bad, bad news for Democrats next year if it holds. Exit question: Romney 2016?


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You have to admit Romney was right about a lot.

gophergirl on November 19, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Is that the alternate universe where 47% aren’t dimwitted grifters?

kim roy on November 19, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Romney is done running for office, but he would have been a fine President. Too bad.

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 8:06 PM

POTUS elections should have a 60 day lemon law clause.

NeoKong on November 19, 2013 at 8:06 PM

You can hate on Romney all you want, but he’d have done a better job with the economy than The Destroyer in Chief and his gang of pirates.

teacherman on November 19, 2013 at 8:06 PM

He’ll always be a loser to me.

ElectricPhase on November 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

This means total vindication for the bitter pastry.

SparkPlug on November 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

I miss real leadership…

OmahaConservative on November 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

And Spock has a beard…

Electrongod on November 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

It’s not silly. This is the stuff that penetrates even the low information voter. Will drive the left crazy.

monalisa on November 19, 2013 at 8:09 PM

And Spock has a beard…

Electrongod on November 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Funny.

SparkPlug on November 19, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Exit question: Romney 2016?

No. And I’m happy he will never be President. Now we’ll have a chance at nominating a conservative in 2016.

Stoic Patriot on November 19, 2013 at 8:09 PM

The proverbial ham sandwich right now would have a better chance at winning the election. I don’t think it’s anything personal about Romney, much as he might have been a better bet than what we have now.

theotherone on November 19, 2013 at 8:10 PM

It’s easy to see why the young might turn on O-Care: Gradually, they’re waking up to the fact that the new health-care regime is built on their premiums specifically, in the hope/expectation that they’ll rarely use the coverage they’re now paying for.

What ? And be like those top earners who pay 80ish percent of income tax. That’s just… unpatriotic…

elgeneralisimo on November 19, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Could be that’s what we’re seeing here — although it would stand to reason that there’s a backlash brewing among young adults to ObamaCare. I’m skeptical that it’s happening already just because many “young healthies” aren’t paying attention to the mandate yet; come next April, when they’re forced to either paying an insurance company for coverage or pay Uncle Sam a fine, you’ll see it then.

47% of Americans 35 and under want Obamacare repealed. (P 19)

Resist We Much on November 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

This is probably why Democrats voted in 2010 to pass Obamacare but not start to implement it until late 2013.

In 2012, Obama could brag about his “universal health care” without anybody really knowing from first-hand experience what that meant.

What if the Democrats had tried to roll it out in 2011? By now, President Romney would have already given waivers to all 50 states, as he promised!

Steve Z on November 19, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Had even a small portion of the media done its job vetting this community organizer, Romney would have been a shoe in. It’s his (Obama’s) ideology that stinks to high heaven.

Rovin on November 19, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Except that in an alternate universe where the IRS hadn’t crippled the tea party and preventing it from organizing, Romney lost the Republican nomination by a mile.

FloatingRock on November 19, 2013 at 8:14 PM

POTUS elections should have a 60 day week lemon law clause.

NeoKong on November 19, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Can we have a do-over in January?

Steve Z on November 19, 2013 at 8:15 PM

I missed my destiny by a lousy year!

VorDaj on November 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Mitt had his chance. NO.

gerrym51 on November 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Romney wins

…shit!

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM

47% of Americans 35 and under want Obamacare repealed. (P 19)

Resist We Much on November 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

If these youngins had any real sence they would want him impaled.

VorDaj on November 19, 2013 at 8:18 PM

You can hate on Romney all you want, but he’d have done a better job with the economy than The Destroyer in Chief and his gang of pirates.

teacherman on November 19, 2013 at 8:06 PM

No knock on Romney at all, he’s light-years better, but in fairness even Pee-Wee Herman would’ve done a better job than Captain 404.

TXUS on November 19, 2013 at 8:18 PM

DFr gave the young The New Deal. BHO gives the young The Raw Deal.

VorDaj on November 19, 2013 at 8:19 PM

DFr FDR

VorDaj on November 19, 2013 at 8:20 PM

I’m skeptical that it’s happening already just because many “young healthies” aren’t paying attention to the mandate yet; come next April, when they’re forced to either paying an insurance company for coverage or pay Uncle Sam a fine, you’ll see it then.

Or they claim 10 dependants or fail to file at all.

I’m personally choosing both options, while refusing to sign up.

wolly4321 on November 19, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Chlamydia vs Gonnorhea.
Those were 2008, except for Sarah, and 2012 choices.

RovesChins on November 19, 2013 at 8:23 PM

They’re the “winners” in the new regime theoretically thanks to the federal subsidies they’re now in line for.

If I understand the process correctly, the word ‘subsidies’ is not really correct. Instead of ‘subsidies,’ those that are entitled to premium support get tax credits.

Why does the distinction matter?

Because it means that for those getting support from taxpayers, they still have to come up with the money first. They only get the credit once they’ve filed their income tax returns.

So, think about a lower middle class families. They may now be able to ‘afford’ health insurance, but (for the first year, at least), they are going to have to pay the full premium. Can they afford $500 or $1,000 a month for a year before they get tax credits, including a cheque reimbursing them for all or part of their previous year’s premiums?

Everyone wants to get that rebate cheque from the car company for purchasing a particular model, but they all have to have the money to purchase the car first before they ever see a dime of that rebate.

Resist We Much on November 19, 2013 at 8:23 PM

* The biggest drop is among those professing to have no religion. While this group backed Obama by 44 points, it now supports him by a 22-point margin.

Where is your god now, atheists?

Fabozz on November 19, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Romney 2016 ftw!

Or not…..

ted c on November 19, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Things have finally gotten so devastatingly bad under President Choom’s administration that even the low-information voters are finally beginning to notice.

Lot of good that does the country now…

RoadRunner on November 19, 2013 at 8:25 PM

aaah when it hits the pocketbook people finally wake up!

CoffeeLover on November 19, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Sorry AP, it is utterly worthless.

And if the Queen had balls she’d be the King.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on November 19, 2013 at 8:28 PM

* The biggest drop is among those professing to have no religion. While this group
backed Obama by 44 points, it now supports him by a 22-point margin.

Proving that they absolutely lack discernment.

Murphy9 on November 19, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Donor fatigue? Tickets to Obama fundraiser in California now 50 percent off

When you start losing the donor class, particularly the CA donor class, maybe it’s time to play a lot more golf.

TXUS on November 19, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Wrong. The people have just forgotten about how bad Romney was. Obama would still win today if they were reminded, which is easy to do. I mean how syrupy smirky issue evading double talking plain dubious Romney was. There’s a reason why every single other possible candidate had to turn out to be a complete joke before we very reluctantly had to accept the odd and questionable Romney. They all fully flamed out: Bachmann, Perry, Cain, Newt, Santorum.

Look, look at what he said. “I’m a severe conservative.” That makes no sense, only an idiot would say that. And days later, he had a chance to say he got it wrong, and he still stood by his “severe” idiocy. He was severely something alright.

anotherJoe on November 19, 2013 at 8:31 PM

You can hate on Romney all you want, but he’d have done a better job with the economy than The Destroyer in Chief and his gang of pirates.

teacherman on November 19, 2013 at 8:06 PM

It would’ve been interesting to see how the Obamacare rollout would’ve played politically had everything gone the same, but with Romney in the White House. I imagine the Democrat/media complex would’ve been screaming GOP sabotage 24/7. Hell, a lot of them are making that claim already even with Obama still President.

That’s the one good thing about Obama being reelected. He has to be at the helm when everything goes up in flames. And he can’t blame anyone else since he’s “inheriting” his own first term agenda.

Doughboy on November 19, 2013 at 8:32 PM

If alternate universes are the only way we can mitigate our feeling of Romney losing, then, well, we haven’t learned a damn thing. Maybe the next electable guy we’re guilted into having will have already acquired a time machine.

Dongemaharu on November 19, 2013 at 8:32 PM

There’s still 52% of the electorate who owe us an apology for being f*cking stupid.

RovesChins on November 19, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Just claim 10 dependants, pay your owed amount at tax time minus the fine.

wolly4321 on November 19, 2013 at 8:33 PM

I’m skeptical that it’s happening already just because many “young healthies” aren’t paying attention to the mandate yet;

come next April, when they’re forced to either paying an insurance company for coverage or pay Uncle Sam a fine

, you’ll see it then.


AP!
Are the Hot Air editors suffering from cognitive dissonance or a dissociative disorder?

This is the third time, in as many days, there has been reference made to “next April” for penalties.

The penalties won’t be due until April 15, 2015.

They’re the “winners” in the new regime theoretically thanks to the federal subsidies they’re now in line for.


Would you feel like a “winner” if someone MADE you eat a sh1te sandwich but PAID you some money AFTER doing it?

PolAgnostic on November 19, 2013 at 8:33 PM

obviously, the RINOs are reading this as a call to arms for the moderates…slash and burn down the base, then win for the sake of the donor class. Don’t get me wrong…I think that the RINOs are in good shape…which is why they are flexing their muscle against movement conservatives.

They are the party of the Chamber, so barry care has lots of perks for business…state-run capitalism, public-private enterprises, public utilities..what ever you want to call it are good for those that are already entrenched in the companies.

r keller on November 19, 2013 at 8:33 PM

aaah when it hits the pocketbook people finally wake up!

CoffeeLover on November 19, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Reason why, after the SCOTUS decision last year and the Obama win in November the best course of action to go about a repeal of Obamacare was to let it run fully implemented, mind you. Instead of more attempts at delaying the mandate, which would have only helped Dems in next year’s elections, or going after a repeal without control of the Senate and/or White house, the focus should have been to pursue legal action against the unilateral changes Obama made (such as the waivers). Focusing on making the law run as was written would have accelerated all this debacle even more.

ptcamn on November 19, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Romney might actually make a good VP choice for someone like Cruz.

Jon0815 on November 19, 2013 at 8:41 PM

This could help the strategery for 2014 and 2016. Tie all the Democrats to Obama.

22044 on November 19, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Do ya think mitt would be any different than barry…

chit …if voting made a difference they would make it illegal

roflmmfao

donabernathy on November 19, 2013 at 8:44 PM

If Rombles had won, you could bet healthcare.gov would be working today!

Valiant on November 19, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Alternate Universe News (AUN) flash: in alternate universe in which Romney leads Obama, Romney still finds a way to lose.

Tag Romney tells reporter: “Yeah, Dad still didn’t really want to win, but he and Mom had even more fun the second time around.”

rrpjr on November 19, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Those of us who supported Mitt were of course right. It’s too bad there are so many incompetent “conservative” pundits who were more interested in attacking Romney than doing what they could to save the country from the gross incompetent enthusiastically supported by liberals.

Basilsbest on November 19, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Michelle O appears to be hitting the campaign trail for Zerocare – and boy, is she angry! We’re in trouble now!

TarheelBen on November 19, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Those of us who supported Mitt were of course right.

Basilsbest on November 19, 2013 at 8:49 PM

How’s that? He was running for alternate universe president?

rrpjr on November 19, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Focusing on making the law run as was written would have accelerated all this debacle even more.

ptcamn on November 19, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Wondering how soon we will see polls that say the SC should have found individual mandate unconstitutional.

monalisa on November 19, 2013 at 8:53 PM

TarheelBen on November 19, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Hide the Dalmatians!

OldEnglish on November 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Michelle O appears to be hitting the campaign trail for Zerocare – and boy, is she angry! We’re in trouble now!

TarheelBen on November 19, 2013 at 8:50 PM

No Longer Proud of America Tour.

What will she do? Throw vegetables from her garden at us?

22044 on November 19, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Just shows you what a little IRS, NSA, and Census can do for a fraudulent candidate.

d1carter on November 19, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Michelle O appears to be hitting the campaign trail for Zerocare – and boy, is she angry! We’re in trouble now!

TarheelBen on November 19, 2013 at 8:50 PM

My heart goes out to the all you can eat buffets in her path.

RovesChins on November 19, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Dear buyer’s remorse, lo-info voters,

EFF OFF & CHOKE ON IT!!

locomotivebreath1901 on November 19, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Except that in an alternate universe where the IRS hadn’t crippled the tea party and preventing it from organizing, Romney lost the Republican nomination by a mile.

FloatingRock on November 19, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Or in an alternate universe where the media didn’t already anoint Romney as the GOP nominee, he would have lost the nomination by a mile.

Aizen on November 19, 2013 at 8:58 PM

May not agree with his politics, but no way does Mitt completely destroy his personal integrity nor his country as we have seen both with O’blamer..

hillsoftx on November 19, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Do ya think mitt would be any different than barry BAMSTAHHHHH!!!!!!!! YOU DA MANNN BAMMMMY BABBBBYY !!!! LOVE YA BARRY OL BUDDY OL PALLLL!!!!!!!!!!!! YAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

donameche on Novembat 8PM

cableguy615 on November 19, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Beyond the dumb topline number showing Romney “winning” 49/45 (331 electoral votes!!!) lies some ominous news for The One: He’s losing his base.

Um, didn’t we already have an election, or was it a bad dream? If he goes to ZERO approval, isn’t he still our Liar-in-Chief? I find all this approval/disapproval stuff puzzling. We’re stuck with the ba$tard.

msupertas on November 19, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Would VP Ryan have spearheaded a new amnesty bill by now?

Fallon on November 19, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Dear buyer’s remorse, lo-info voters,

EFF OFF & CHOKE ON IT!!

locomotivebreath1901 on November 19, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Right the f*ck on! Perfectly said.

msupertas on November 19, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Romney is done running for office, but he would have been a fine President. Too bad.

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 8:06 PM

+1

IR-MN on November 19, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Oh, give me a break. If the election were redone tomorrow, Romney would still lose.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:10 PM

I will remember Mitt as the man that brought a feather to a gunfight.A CEO that was be-clowned by a stock clerk. He failed his country because he would not fight hard for it.

DeweyWins on November 19, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Those of us who supported Mitt were of course right. It’s too bad there are so many incompetent “conservative” pundits who were more interested in attacking Romney than doing what they could to save the country from the gross incompetent enthusiastically supported by liberals.

Basilsbest on November 19, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Yeah, Mitt would’ve given us a functioning O-care website.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Alternate Universe News (AUN) flash: in alternate universe in which Romney leads Obama, Romney still finds a way to lose.

rrpjr on November 19, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Exactly.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Just claim 10 dependants, pay your owed amount at tax time minus the fine.

wolly4321 on November 19, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Uh the fine comes out first. When you send your check to the IRS whatever fine is owed is taken off the top and the rest is applied to the taxes you owe.

Johnnyreb on November 19, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Wait..what? Where’s my free healthcare? /Obama voters

bitsy on November 19, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Romney never hit Barack hard. If had played to win and played to crush the enemy party, instead of wanting to work with them, he may have won. Oh, well!

SouthernGent on November 19, 2013 at 9:22 PM

If Rombles had won, you could bet healthcare.gov would be working today!

Valiant on November 19, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Exactly, too. Romney was just running as the guy who could run the SuperState better.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Exit question: Romney 2016?

Well, if we must nominate an electable RINO, I would take him over John McCain, Jeb Bush, or Chris Christie, but that’s not saying much. It is still early; there has got to be somebody better that could run.

bitsy on November 19, 2013 at 9:26 PM

All those that sat home instead of voting for Romney, hopefully are stewing in regret.

TXMomof3 on November 19, 2013 at 9:28 PM

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:10 PM

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:14 PM

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:17 PM

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Romney Derangement Sydnrome?

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Romney Derangement Sydnrome?

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Not deranged at all. It’s just that the truth still hurts, I guess.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Romney Derangement Sydnrome Syndrome?

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:30 PM

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:31 PM

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:31 PM

And really, I don’t think I need analysis from any of the claque who were going on about how Mittmentum was going to roll to victory. Moderate Delusion Syndrome?

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:32 PM

And really, I don’t think I need analysis from any of the claque who were going on about how Mittmentum was going to roll to victory. Moderate Delusion Syndrome?

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Analysis from people who claimed that Palin would run in 2012, even when just about everyone else knew she wouldn’t…would somehow be better? It’s funny that you say that Romney would still lose. Maybe true, maybe not, but still not as sad as Palin losing to Begich, whose approval rating is barely above 40%, in a hypothetical matchup in one of the reddest states in the country.

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Analysis from people who claimed that Palin would run in 2012, even when just about everyone else knew she wouldn’t…

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:37 PM

I never said Palin would do anything. Prove otherwise. Funny how Mittbots-in-rehab compulsively bring up Palin.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Wow, the RDS is thick in here tonight! Smells Like Teen Spirit.

As a succinct commenter on another forum so knowingly put it the other day, the Democrats win elections because, unlike the Republicans, they are willing to hold their collective noses and vote for their Party’s candidate, even if they don’t totally agree with said candidate. They overwhelmingly threw their Kollective Might behind a totally unknown Democrat Shyster Governor from the Hick State of Arkansaw in 1992, for instance.

They also almost totally control the national mainstream media in all forms, so it’s much easier for them to shape Low-IQ opinions. The rocket scientist audience members of “The View” are ample proof of that.

On the other hand, in 2008 and again in 2012, ignorant Republican voters in essence said they preferred O’bama over their own Party’s candidate, and stayed home. Their staying home was Voter Nullification that the Democrats could until that time only have imagined in their wettest dreams.

Hey, McCain had/has his flaws, and so does Romney. But the guy they were running against was and is much worse, and had a record to prove that when he ran for re-erection. The Republican imbeciles who voted against their Party candidate by staying home (or by voting 3rd Party) did make the difference in the 2012 election, and most likely the 2008 one as well.

To them, I say “Choke on it, All-Day Suckers!”

Del Dolemonte on November 19, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Oh, the problem wasn’t Romney or the electorate, it was the time/space continuum. Hahaha. Nothing has changed. You people are going to give us Christie as a nominee. Good grief.

Dongemaharu on November 19, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Oh, the problem wasn’t Romney or the electorate, it was the time/space continuum. Hahaha. Nothing has changed. You people are going to give us Christie as a nominee. Good grief.

Dongemaharu on November 19, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Yep.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:43 PM

I never said Palin would do anything. Prove otherwise. Funny how Mittbots-in-rehab compulsively bring up Palin.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Whether you like it or not, you’ll always be inextricably linked to Palin. I’m sure you occasionally post on other threads, but I can be sure to see you on a Romney or Palin thread.

I supported Romney, but I’m not in rehab. I think he would have made a great President, but I’ve moved on. I don’t care about him, and I actually hope he never runs again. In fact, I’ve criticized him numerous times since then. Just ask bluegill. He had his chance, and he lost.

I posted one comment on this thread before you came along, while you posted four, so you seem a lot more obsessed with him than I, apparently, ever was.

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Whether you like it or not, you’ll always be inextricably linked to Palin.

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:44 PM

As you are inextricably linked to squishy, feckless Mittbotism. Fair enough?

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Del Dolemonte on November 19, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Well said.

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:48 PM

I’m sure you occasionally post on other threads, but I can be sure to see you on a Romney or Palin thread.

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:44 PM

You can be sure to see MOST people on a Palin thread, bright eyes.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:49 PM

As you are inextricably linked to squishy, feckless Mittbotism. Fair enough?

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Aw, whatever helps you sleep at night.

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Aw, whatever helps you sleep at night.

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Sure thing.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:50 PM

I never said Palin would do anything. Prove otherwise. Funny how Mittbots-in-rehab compulsively bring up Palin.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Whether you like it or not, you’ll always be inextricably linked to Palin. …

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Last word: you claim that I said Palin would run. You can’t back up that claim because it’s simply not true. So then you want to “smear” me by “inextricably linking” me with Palin? Fine with me. She’s been right far more often than whatever SuperElectable hero from the Squish Pantheon you’ll want to foist on us the next go-’round.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Whether you like it or not, you’ll always be inextricably linked to Palin. …

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Will you please inextricably link me to her too?

rrpjr on November 19, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Exit question: Romney 2016?

Oh, hells no. How about Romney 11/20/2013?????

nukemhill on November 19, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Whether you like it or not, you’ll always be inextricably linked to Palin. …

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Will you please inextricably link me to her too?

rrpjr on November 19, 2013 at 9:57 PM

True dat!

nukemhill on November 19, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Last word: you claim that I said Palin would run. You can’t back up that claim because it’s simply not true. So then you want to “smear” me by “inextricably linking” me with Palin? Fine with me. She’s been right far more often than whatever SuperElectable hero from the Squish Pantheon you’ll want to foist on us the next go-’round.

ddrintn on November 19, 2013 at 9:53 PM

The problem with your analysis is that you assume that I actually agree with Romney than I do with Palin. Nothing could be further from the truth. I actually agree with Palin more. I tend to support credible Tea Partiers in the primaries. I proudly supported Cruz, Haley, Rubio, Lee, Rand, etc. They’re all conservatives I think could potentially win the general election. My issue with Palin wasn’t her conservative positions…I just never wanted her to be the Republican nominee, because she did herself no favors being a national candidate (her disastrous interviews, her poor debate performance, etc.) I haven’t chosen a candidate to support next time. It’s too early in the process. Jindal, Walker, and Pence are all at the top of my list right now, but I won’t commit to supporting any of them as of now.

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Will you please inextricably link me to her too?

rrpjr on November 19, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Done. :)

GOPRanknFile on November 19, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Things would still suck…just not quite as bad because I can’t see Romney spewing all the irksome Leftist claptrap that the Choomer in Chief does. Heck, he might have even done some things to improve the American business climate…who knows?

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 19, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Mittness? no thanks. He would have made sure healthcare.gov was working before rollout. Thank God he didn’t win. Now we have a better than even chance of repeal rather than tweaking it to work as he envisioned romneycare.

AH_C on November 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Bmore

Schadenfreude on November 19, 2013 at 10:36 PM

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