Quotes of the day

posted at 10:31 pm on November 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

Vice President Joe Biden expressed confidence Monday that the administration is going to fix the embattled federal healthcare website.

“The truth is, we’re going to fix it,” Biden said at Ellington Field airport in Houston, speaking to volunteers working to help people enroll in health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.

“God willing,” he added later.

***

Busted website, canceled policies, lousy early enrollment numbers. And that could be just the warmup.

Because the lesson of the last six weeks is that when it comes to the Obamacare rollout, if it can go wrong, it probably will.

The stumble-filled debut of President Barack Obama’s health care law is drawing new attention to the other risks that have been on the radar screen of health care wonks for months. Think health insurance plans sinking under the weight of sick customers, newly insured people being stunned that they still have to spend on health care, and possibly another wave of canceled policies — right before the 2014 elections.

They’re mostly worst-case scenarios, and an Obamacare recovery in the next few months could still prevent some of the biggest ones from ever happening. But health care experts are taking all of them a lot more seriously now — because at this point, why wouldn’t they?

***

The Obama administration is lowering the bar again on the problem-plagued ObamaCare website, saying that it will be “greatly improved” by month’s end — not fixed.

“The consumer experience … will be greatly improved for the vast majority of users by November 30,” Henry Chao, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services’ deputy chief information officer, will tell House investigators on Tuesday, according to written testimony obtained by Fox News.

Chao’s testimony, 11 days before the fix deadline, appears to be the most recent case of the administration attempting to lower expectations, or at least prepare Americans for more problems when attempting to enter the site to purchase insurance policies that begin coverage January 1.

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1. The Washington Post reported on Sunday that the Obama administration will consider the new online marketplace a success if 80 percent of users can buy health insurance. That is absurd. First, it’s another broken promise. The president and his advisers responded to the disastrous rollout last month by vowing to deliver an Amazon.com-quality website by the end of November. (If history remembers President Obama for one thing, other than his barrier-breaking 2008 election, it might be the outsized and unmet expectations that paved the path of his presidency.) Second, in what other line of work is 20 percent failure considered a success? If one out of every five meals served by a restaurant is inedible, the joint goes out of business.

2. The same story by Amy Goldstein and Juliet Eilperin revealed that the Health and Human Services Department hired technology contractors without requiring specific performance criteria. It is customary in the private sector to include benchmarks in technology contracts. Not so with the seat-of-their-smarty-pants Obama administration. “The meaning of success was defined for the first time during the panicky days of October, when White House officials belatedly recognized that the federal exchange had serious software and hardware defects,” The Post reported.

3. Incompetence is one thing. Secrecy is another. The administration that promised to be the most transparent ever settled on the “80-percent-is-better-than-nothing” construction without making it public. The Post story is based on unidentified sources. The president suggested for the first time last week that the site would not be perfect, but he did not go into detail. He should.

***

It gets worse. As the American Enterprise Institute’s Dr. Scott Gottlieb has pointed out, there is already a second wave of cancellations set to come right before the 2014 mid-term elections. It turns out that many small businesses with fewer than 50 employees, who buy in the small-group market, were able to exploit a loophole in Obamacare and avoid for one year the mandates being placed on plans in the individual market. Those businesses get to keep offering coverage that does not meet Obamacare requirements until the end of 2014. But, Gottlieb writes, that means that “starting in October 2014, many employees of small businesses will start getting the same notices that are now being mailed to individuals, informing that their existing health plans are also being cancelled.”

In other words, right before Election Day 2014, people in the small-group market are scheduled to lose their plans. If the fix Obama announced last week succeeds, then many more in the individual market will also lose their plans at the very same time — and Democrats could lose control of the Senate…

So even if the Web site does work a year from now, it won’t matter because Obamacare will be unaffordable. Those losing their plans right before Election Day will be in the same bind they are in today. Except there will be potentially millions more of them than there are today.

***

Even in the face of rough public opinion, the mantra of Congressional Democrats has been to fix the health care law, not cater to Republican extremism to repeal it. But after the president’s press conference last week, there’s been a palpable pessimism in Democratic strategists’ thinking. When I asked one Democratic campaign operative why blue-state Senate candidates like Peters and Braley would support a bill that the White House said would gut Obamacare, the answer was: “We’re on our own. We don’t care what the White House says. Would you trust them?”

That’s the type of thinking that could endanger a health care law that seemed untouchable several months ago. If the administration can’t fix the myriad problems ailing the health care exchange website, and more sob stories emerge about people losing or paying significantly more for their insurance, it’s an unsustainable formula for Democrats. There’s not much time left on the election clock to turn things around. They’ve shown unfailing loyalty to the president, but unless he manages an unlikely fourth quarter comeback, those bonds could break — and the results could get ugly.

***

An engaged chief executive would have been demanding frequent and detailed progress reports from his team. He would have gotten early warnings about possible glitches. But this president is tragically and inexcusably hands-off…

At the time the law was passed, administration leaders and many commentators compared the Affordable Care Act to Social Security and Medicare. The analogy was never apt. These great achievements are public public programs, efficient to administer and testament to the fact that government can serve social objectives far more effectively than the private sector.

Obamacare, by contrast, is the inefficiency of “public-private partnerships” at its worst. It is a public subsidy for the private insurance industry. No fewer than 55 separate contractors were hired to design the software. Yet though it is not a true public program worthy of the name, Obamacare is being used to discredit government.

Taking the long view, it looks increasingly as if 2008 was a missed historical moment.

***

Emboldened conservatives and worried liberals alike agree that the future of the Democratic Party’s plausible agenda, and of liberalism itself, is on the line.

Obama’s challenge is now nothing less than to assure that the cycle of progressivism he presumed to usher in, and the period of renewed faith and confidence in the transformative powers of government that he promised, does not die aborning. That will be no easy task.

“Unlike the Republican agenda, the Democratic agenda does not work unless people have a certain level of trust in the competence of the government to act on their behalf,” said William Galston, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, who 25 years ago helped launch the centrist “New Democratic” agenda that brought the Democrats back from years in the presidential wilderness. “That is, if you will, the Democratic proposition. It’s not to say that the government should do everything, but it is to say there’s an indispensable — and not necessarily small — role for government at every level.”…

“Case studies are going to be written about this for years to come,” said David Gergen, director of the Center for Public Leadership at Harvard’s Kennedy School and a bipartisan veteran of three White House staffs. “I’m not sure people are ever going to be able to totally unravel this story — it beggars belief.”

***

It turns out if you sell a health care plan on the basis that we won’t increase the debt and nobody will be a loser, then, when there are losers, they get really mad. And there were bound to be losers. And so that’s part of it.

But part of it is just the weakening of the law, the weakening of support for the law, and the weakening of the own president’s authority to say, trust me, trust me. I’m really struck by the downward slide that he’s doing.

I’m a little surprised by it, frankly. And what’s interesting is, compared to Reagan and Clinton in their second terms, had very similar popular approval ratings, which were going up at this point. George W. Bush and Barack Obama have extremely similar downward slopes. Bush’s went all the way through, caused by Iraq and Katrina, and, in Obama’s case, health care and other things.

And one of the things that strikes me is the country has changed, much more cynical, much more anti-Washington and, as a result of that, much less likely to come in a big collective effort to help some uninsured off, so much more skeptical of the law, and, second, when it is not implemented properly, much more punishing on the government. And so that makes it very fragile to me.

***

It is bad enough that self-employed and individually insured Americans are being dictated to from a faraway city. After all, there is neither a moral nor legal provision in the United States Constitution that allows the executive to decide what free men should choose to buy. And yet it gets worse when one acknowledges that the services that the government wishes to foist upon the individual market are generally inferior. “President Obama will soon become the country’s biggest purveyor of second-rate coverage,” doctor and former FDA official Scott Gottlieb (no relation to Lori) wrote in the New York Post. “Many of the policies sold in the exchanges are ‘narrow network’ plans with very limited choice of doctors.” Hard workers could be forgiven for looking at their efforts and wondering, “Why bother?”

One of the things that has distinguished America from the social democracies of Europe is that its safety net was just that: a net into which one might fall but in which one would not be enveloped. In Europe, one is pushed into interaction with the government as a matter of course — and even encouraged to engage. In America, there was traditionally help if you really needed it, but you had to be old or poor or disabled first. Obamacare changes that, interfering in the lives of the millions of Americans who had no intention of getting involved with the state and saying breezily to the self-sustaining middle class that there is no escape from the insidious meddling of a corpulent Uncle Sam — even if they do work hard and play by the rules every day.

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“What I’m hearing from the White House is: There will be changes to the president’s team coming out of this, but they are not looking to fire anyone now.”


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nothing on Zimmerman? awwww

DBear on November 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

I can’t believe Minnesota said no to Obama’s fix. When you’ve lost Minnesota ……..

gophergirl on November 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Competence.

None in that picture.

Lanceman on November 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM

DoucheBear!

Lanceman on November 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Big f*ckin’ deal!

AllahsNippleHair on November 18, 2013 at 10:38 PM

“The truth is, we’re going to fix it,” Biden said…
“God willing,” he added later.

Uh-oh. When you’ve lost God…

de rigueur on November 18, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Before: Obama Touts Woman’s Obamacare Success Story During Rose Garden Speech

Now: Woman Finds Out There Was A Website Glitch, Doesn’t Qualify For Subsidies…

Jessica Sanford, the Federal Way woman who got a shout-out from President Obama last month with her fan letter for the Affordable Care Act, got a rather rude awakening last week. Turns out she doesn’t qualify for a tax credit after all.

At least that’s what the letter said that she got from the state. Now she says her dream of affordable health insurance has gone poof. She can’t afford it. She’ll have to go without. “I’m really terribly embarrassed,” she says. “It has completely turned around on me. I mean, completely.”

Chalk it up to a bollixed-up state website that apparently still has major problems. Originally it said Sanford and her child would get a whopping tax credit that would reduce their total premium to $169 a month. Now the state is telling her it goofed – twice – and she has to pay full ticket. There may even be a third goof involved: At least one health-insurance broker says she may qualify for a tax credit after all, albeit a small one. Officials at the state Healthplanfinder website could not be contacted Sunday night. But it just goes to show that even in the state of Washington, which has earned national kudos for a health-insurance exchange that seems to function better than the dysfunctional federal website, there are big, big problems.

“They have to own up to what is going on,” Sanford says. “They have to fix it. They can’t just go around and say this is working great. In my opinion they ought to shut it down and just get all of it straightened out.”

Sanford’s tale may not be all that unusual amid the national furor over Obamacare’s sputtering start. But it is particularly embarrassing because the president himself mentioned it in a speech, calling it a success story that makes the case for the program. These days fan letters are few and far between.

Obama related Sanford’s story in remarks from the Rose Garden last Oct. 21: “I recently received a letter from a woman named Jessica Sanford in Washington state, and here’s what she wrote. ‘I am a single mom, no child support, self-employed, and I haven’t had health insurance for 15 years because it is too expensive. My son has ADHD and requires regular doctor visits, and his meds alone cost $250 a month. I have had an ongoing tendinitis problem due to my line of work that I have to have treated. Now, finally, we get to have coverage because of the ACA for $169 a month. I was crying the other day when I signed up. So much stress lifted.’

The president went on: “Now, that is not untypical for a lot of folks like Jessica who have been struggling without health insurance. That is what the Affordable Care Act is all about.”

Yes, Sanford says, it was all true at the time she wrote the letter. She was ecstatic when she discovered she could sign up for a health plan that covered all her needs at a reasonable price. As a freelance court reporter, Sanford, 48, doesn’t make a lot – a little less than $50,000 a year. That doesn’t go very far when there is a child in the household and his father doesn’t pay child support. Her 14-year-old son Ryan requires a special prescription medication that must be compounded. Before the Affordable Care Act came along, she was getting rate quotes of $500 and $600 a month. She just couldn’t afford health insurance, and her health care costs left her strapped.

That’s why she was one of the eager customers who was ready to sign up the moment the state website opened for business on Oct. 1. Washington is one of 14 states that went its own way, building its own site rather than relying on what turned out to be an error-plagued federal system. Although a computer glitch shut down the Washington Healthplanfinder website the first day, by Oct. 3, with the help of a broker, Sanford managed to enroll in a “gold”-level health plan offered by Premera Blue Cross.

The savings were tremendous. Thanks to the tax credit, Sanford qualified for a discount of $452 a month. “I was looking at it, and you know, it was like it was amazing. How was I supposed to know?”

Sanford was so happy that she wrote a thank-you note to President Obama and dropped it in the mail. One of the president’s speechwriters contacted her and asked if he could use her story. When the president used her name she says it was one of the proudest moments of her life. “To think I would finally be covered if anything happened – I was so relieved.”

Then came the bad news.

Four days after President Obama made his address, the state health exchange publicly revealed a grevious error – its tax-credit calculations were all wrong. The state had been submitting monthly income information to the federal data hub, but the federal computers were expecting an annual figure. Suppose a person claimed an income of $50,000 a year — the tax credit was based on an income of $4,166 a year. The higher the income, the bigger the error. Brokers say they caught the mistake right off the bat and tried flagging it to the state’s attention, but for some reason it took the state three weeks to acknowledge it. So everyone who purchased a subsidized health insurance policy through the Washington state exchange prior to Oct. 23 was quoted too low a rate. The mistake involved 4,600 policies covering 8,000 people – Sanford’s policy was one of them.

Keep reading…

Resist We Much on November 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Who’s surprised that this is crashing and burning?

TXMomof3 on November 18, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Has anyone seen an article where the writer discusses the role of the MSM in the Obama fraud…..? Anybody?

d1carter on November 18, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Hi Lanceman. Say hey to Scrumpy.

Thuja is a cannibal shrimp.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Zimmerman? You mean that Democrat who voted for Obama?

CWchangedhisNicagain on November 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM

nothing on Zimmerman? awwww

DBear on November 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

We all heard the 911 call.
He made you scream like a b!tch.

AllahsNippleHair on November 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Has anyone seen an article where the writer discusses the role of the MSM in the Obama fraud…..? Anybody?

d1carter on November 18, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Nope. The MSM cubicle people are a bunch of hypocritical festering lesions.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Thuja is a cannibal shrimp.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2013 at 10:42 PM

And who’da thunk the governor was a Brit.

Lanceman on November 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Twerp,

I was wondering what your Thanksgiving costume was going to be. You could be a bowl of cranberry sauce.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

“God willing,” he added later.

I hope he gets sued by ACLU for saying that :)

burrata on November 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

0bama is going down in flames, ain’t it grand to watch?

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 10:50 PM

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Ok Its fun to watch but more fun to pour gasoline on him and watch some more.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

I’m not advocating violence.

Hey gasoline is Organic.

/For libtards

SparkPlug on November 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

The Charles C. Cooke piece is damn goode.

aquaviva on November 18, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Social D- Ring of Fire

bazil9 on November 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Obama’s conference call on Obamacare goes about as well as HealthCare.gov rollout

Resist We Much on November 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Almost as if things not adults were in charge…

Lanceman on November 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Hi B9!

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 10:59 PM

I’m writing my own narrative, because there’s is a lie.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Hi B9!

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Hey Bud!

bazil9 on November 18, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Out: Obama ships away a bust

In: Obama is a bust

Winning!!

faraway on November 18, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Twerp,

I was wondering what your Thanksgiving costume was going to be. You could be a bowl of cranberry sauce.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

I’m going as a produce associate-because I’m hoping to get my ‘go back to work’ letter from my PCP tomorrow.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 18, 2013 at 11:04 PM

I’m hoping to get my ‘go back to work’ letter from my PCP tomorrow.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 18, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Fingers crossed!!

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM

I used “there’s ” when it should have been “theirs”.

Public schooled. Ebonics.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2013 at 11:07 PM

The stumble-filled debut of President Barack Obama’s health care law every single thing Barky has tried to do since first sliming into office (and before)

– remember how Joe the Plumber emerged … because Barky decided to start creeping around people’s backyards during the 2008 race in order to ‘talk tot he little people and get their thoughts’. The second day of that fiasco had Barky barging in on Joe and his son, when Joe asked a couple of simple, pointed questions which allowed Barky to reveal his true socialist attitudes (“spread the wealth”, “it’s not that I want to punish your success … BUT …”). That second day was the last one Barky tried to sneak into any backyards – until he took occupation of the Oval Office and then had his union thugs and SA underlings do it for him.

That America (R.I.P.) let this malevolent retard slime into an office he was neither eligible nor qualified for and then refused to impeach and prosecute him for the many, many crimes he’s committed since will go down in history as one of the most pathetic times and one of the most pathetic populations ever to walk the Earth. America was allowed to be taken down by an 84 IQ dog-eating half-wit who has not one area of competence and no talents of any sort, at all. Totally pathetic.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 18, 2013 at 11:07 PM

David Brooks is sad. :-(

Punchenko on November 18, 2013 at 11:07 PM

nothing on Zimmerman? awwww

DBear on November 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

What is it that you wanna say about that ?
That your boy Holder will get him this time ?

burrata on November 18, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Time for bigger and better lies.

We must spread the wealth of prevarication around.

profitsbeard on November 18, 2013 at 11:08 PM

What is going on in Wisconsin?

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:08 PM

America was allowed to be taken down by an 84 IQ dog-eating half-wit who has not one area of competence and no talents of any sort, at all. Totally pathetic.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 18, 2013 at 11:07 PM

You’re being way, way too generous with that 84.

Let us not forget that Barry’s patrons are the Kennedy Clan and the Daley Machine. They helped heap this turd upon the nation.

Punchenko on November 18, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Ummm ,, what’s a “PCP”?

Unfortunate abbreviation.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM

What is going on in Wisconsin?

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Just your friendly, Sukarno-style junta in Washington working its way through the states. Nothing new. This is par for the course in the American Socialist Superstate. Reminds me of the Missouri DAs and state cops who alerted people in 2008 that they were going to investigate and prosecute campaign ads that weren’t deferential to the mental midget from Jakarta … only these guys in Wisconsin now have real power behind them.

Get used to it because it only gets worse.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 18, 2013 at 11:12 PM

David Brooks is sad. :-(

Punchenko on November 18, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Damn, even the crease was fake?

faraway on November 18, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Ummm ,, what’s a “PCP”?

Unfortunate abbreviation.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Primary Care Physician

bazil9 on November 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM

So when Hussein announces bailouts for health insurance companies , will he have styrofoam Greek columns as props and Val playing a fiddle standing next to him ?

burrata on November 18, 2013 at 11:14 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 18, 2013 at 11:12 PM

They sure do hate Walker.

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:14 PM

nothing on Zimmerman? awwww

DBear on November 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Very on topic. That is why you are so loved here.

arnold ziffel on November 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

i.David Brooks is sad. :-( Punchenko on November 18, 2013 at

So is the Oprah. It’s quite sad.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Two huge coons are in my front yard tonight. Wish I were sober enough to pick ‘em off…

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 11:17 PM

So is the Oprah. It’s quite sad.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Fat, racist 0prah can kiss my lily-white ass…

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Let us not forget that Barry’s patrons are the Kennedy Clan and the Daley Machine. They helped heap this turd upon the nation.

Punchenko on November 18, 2013 at 11:10 PM

I blame every single person and group who not only supported the Indonesian dog-eating turdball but all those who didn’t fight against him and point out what a subhuman, dimwitted moron he is. This includes idiots like Krauthammer, who were so very happy to say how intelligent Barky is when it’s always been clear that Barky would still be in junior high school if he had to satisfy any normal standards. I used to have many, many fights with “conservatives” and “center-right” people when I said that Barky was a mind-numbing moron. Many, many, many. It used to drive me crazy. And I never heard any apologies out of any of them for having been so terribly wrong, though many have finally stopped that sh!t – though they still cling to the laughable “he’s a good speaker” line.

This population will go down in history as the most pathetic, moronic, suicidal population of free men that has ever existed. Sadly, we’re all dragged along with them, but that is the truth of the situation. Never has there been a society that killed itself so spectacularly using such an incompetent boob who hated them all as their mechanism. I would say “sad” … but it’s just so much worse.

But, they got their wish. America is toast. Has been for some time, now. There will be no restoration of an American Constitutional Republic here. It’s gone and it’s not coming back.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 18, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Oprah’s sounds can travel across the seas.

faraway on November 18, 2013 at 11:20 PM

I was looking that the info sheets, my ins. company send to inform us of how much they’ve covered of recent med exams.
We have damn good insurance.
I want it to stay that way.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 18, 2013 at 11:20 PM

0bama is going down in flames, ain’t it grand to watch?

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 10:50 PM

I’m going through dental floss at break neck speed. (for the popcorn kernels of course)

TxAnn56 on November 18, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Rand now blaming Cruz for shutdown, says he never supported strategy:

http://m.nationalreview.com/corner/364279/rand-paul-government-shutdown-strategy-was-dumb-idea-nro-staff

bluegill on November 18, 2013 at 11:21 PM

DoucheBear!

Lanceman on November 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM

…he’s on the payroll again!
…or……ran out of rubbers!

KOOLAID2 on November 18, 2013 at 11:21 PM

We lost our plan. Our premiums almost doubled.

Obama said I can get my old plan back, right?

faraway on November 18, 2013 at 11:22 PM

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 11:17 PM
Glad you’re not sober. *smiles*

annoyinglittletwerp on November 18, 2013 at 11:22 PM

3 at 11:11 PM Primary Care Physician bazil9 on November 18, 2013 at 11:13

Pet tranquilizer sprayed on dope. Greens.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2013 at 11:22 PM

[Rand Paul] Shutting down the government was a dumb idea,” Paul said on Special Report Monday night. “Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it,

RINOism must be contagious.

faraway on November 18, 2013 at 11:23 PM

I’m completely surprised that this fiasco would happen with an executive with such a fat resume in charge.

jukin3 on November 18, 2013 at 11:23 PM

nothing on Zimmerman? awwww

DBear on November 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

…are you negotiating with your boss…on dollars per response?

KOOLAID2 on November 18, 2013 at 11:24 PM

I would like to see this blow the hell up. I don’t want this to die a slow death.

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Rand now blaming Cruz for shutdown, says he never supported strategy:

bluegill on November 18, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Translation: Rand is behind Cruz in the polls.

TxAnn56 on November 18, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Glad you’re not sober. *smiles*

annoyinglittletwerp on November 18, 2013 at 11:22 PM

I’m sober enough, just not committed enough to go after them. I actually fed ‘em some day old bread…

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 11:26 PM

nothing on Zimmerman? awwww
DBear on November 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

You and other deranged Obama-worshipers want to do anything you can to turn people’s attention away from ObamaCare disaster and the repeated Democrat lies told to sell it to voters.

bluegill on November 18, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Boxers love racoons

faraway on November 18, 2013 at 11:27 PM

bluegill on November 18, 2013 at 11:21 PM

The Dems shut the government down or didn’t Rand get the memo?

Looks like Rand’s presidential ambitions mean more to him than the good of the country and standing with men such as Cruz and Lee to take down Obama and ObamaCare if Rand is regurgitating the Dems’ talking points.

Well, I would choose Cruz over Rand anyway and this confirms it.

INC on November 18, 2013 at 11:29 PM

I’m sober enough, just not committed enough to go after them. I actually fed ‘em some day old bread…

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 11:26 PM

…I’ll be right over…with the 20 Gauge!

KOOLAID2 on November 18, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Translation: Rand is behind Cruz in the polls.

TxAnn56 on November 18, 2013 at 11:24 PM

:)

INC on November 18, 2013 at 11:30 PM

…I’ll be right over…with the 20 Gauge!

KOOLAID2 on November 18, 2013 at 11:29 PM

I like feeping ‘em in my sights…

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 11:30 PM

I like feeping ‘em in my sights…

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 11:30 PM

keeping

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM

I would like to see this blow the hell up. I don’t want this to die a slow death.

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:24 PM

You mean along the lines of the Hindenburg? Yeah, that’d work for me.

TxAnn56 on November 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Moon Status. 98.01% 16 days.

Bmore on November 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Obama’s conference call on Obamacare goes about as well as HealthCare.gov rollout

Resist We Much on November 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM

LOL, those tweets are so funny. They can’t get on the conference call, phones not working. One said she shook it and blew on it; that always works!

The comments are hilarious too.

bluefox on November 18, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Anti-Control on November 18, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Holder just wants to buy time while he is busy crying racism everytime he shows his mug in public !
As for the KardASSians, check this out :
http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/18/kanye-west-rant-radio-president-obama-michelle-kim-kardashian/

Kanye’s latest rant aired this morning on 107.9 FM in Philly. The hosts asked him about Obama’s infamous comment … and Kanye angrily responded, “I don’t care if your’re the president. I bring joy to people.”

If only they’d have him back on SNL to say that :P

burrata on November 18, 2013 at 11:33 PM

I see a Patriots vs. Lions or Cowboys Super Bowl coming up this year…

Anti-Control on November 18, 2013 at 11:35 PM

I would like to see this blow the hell up. I don’t want this to die a slow death.

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:24 PM

The only reasonable way to avoid any of this is a national divorce, since there’s no way any of these people are going to be stopped, let alone put in jail (and more serious sentences) where they belong. Otherwise, it doesn’t really matter how fast or slow it’s going to be – the pain and destruction is going to be immense and serious either way, with the effects going on for a very long time.

For individuals there will be chances to escape (if they can find decent places (LOL) which will take them – and that will show people how dual citizens are totally different from people who have nothing but American citizenship and why dual citizens can never be considered natural born citizens). But that will not go on forever, either. Remember, the dems started talking about confiscating wealth of people looking to leave this nation years ago. Well, it wasn’t just idle talk, as I’m sure we’re all aware.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 18, 2013 at 11:37 PM

What is going on in Wisconsin?

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:08 PM

From what Levin said, sounds like swat teams invading Conservatives homes. I didn’t catch all of it. Hope he has it on his website.

I’ll check your link.

bluefox on November 18, 2013 at 11:37 PM

. I actually fed ‘em some day old bread… OmahaConservative on November 8, 2013

So you bait them in? Then give them the baby seal treatment?

Cool.

I used to chase them up trees with dogs. Shine a light in their green eyes, and shoot’em.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2013 at 11:38 PM

The president spoke for about 14 minutessounding utterly bone-tired but plainly trying to recapture the magic of his 2008 campaign or at least the competence of his 2012 reelection push.


Then this happened.

Schadenfreude on November 18, 2013 at 11:39 PM

“Yes, we can” has become “Oh no, you di’int.”

Fallon on November 18, 2013 at 11:39 PM

“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period.”

It’s his “read my lips, no new taxes” moment.

It’s his “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky” lie.

It’s his “I’m not a crook” brush with his role model, Nixon.

Enjoy it DOTUS. You earned your place alongside the great liars of recent memory.

PappyD61 on November 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM

bluefox on November 18, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Hard to believe what happens in this country.

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM

. I actually fed ‘em some day old bread… OmahaConservative on November 8, 2013

So you bait them in? Then give them the baby seal treatment?

Cool.

I used to chase them up trees with dogs. Shine a light in their green eyes, and shoot’em.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2013 at 11:38 PM

BOTH of youse can stop this chatter. *glares*

annoyinglittletwerp on November 18, 2013 at 11:41 PM

“If you like your ‘coons you can keep your ‘coons”

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 11:42 PM

More fraud

Schadenfreude on November 18, 2013 at 11:43 PM

YugoCare.

VorDaj on November 18, 2013 at 11:43 PM

On the lighter side … I’m sitting here listening to a song that I’ve already heard 100 times today. I went to the driving range and kept playing it over and over as I was hitting. I couldn’t stop. I heard it on the radio the other day and I immediately loved it – which only happens once in a blue moon:

Okkervil River – Down Down the Deep River

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 18, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Boycott this traitor

Schadenfreude on November 18, 2013 at 11:44 PM

YugoCare.

VorDaj on November 18, 2013 at 11:43 PM

More like FisterKharmaCare … lots of feral government money, and a little rain and it goes up in flames.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 18, 2013 at 11:45 PM

“If you like your ‘coons you can keep your ‘coons”

OmahaConservative on November 18, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Don’t make me do it. :)

arnold ziffel on November 18, 2013 at 11:45 PM

I’m hoping to get my ‘go back to work’ letter from my PCP tomorrow.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 18, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Fingers crossed!!

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM …I’m crossing my legs!

KOOLAID2 on November 18, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Of course UpChuck Todd’s message to Democrats is:

“Oh, don’t worry too much, we got your back.”

Marcus on November 18, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Do not sign up for ObamaCare, bros and sises. It is more dangerous to you than having unprotected sex with someone who has AIDS.

VorDaj on November 18, 2013 at 11:47 PM

… I forgot the block quote!

KOOLAID2 on November 18, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Schadenfreude on November 18, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Someone tweeted and asked did the WH route the call thru the website after it went down, LOL

bluefox on November 18, 2013 at 11:49 PM

More fraud

Schadenfreude on November 18, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Darn those 2 rogues at their Cincinati office
:O

burrata on November 18, 2013 at 11:50 PM

KOOLAID2 on November 18, 2013 at 11:47 PM

lol. Hi KA2!

KCB on November 18, 2013 at 11:50 PM

I was scared of the woods at night until I went hunting with old mam Simmons, and his blueticks. 8-10 years old. Thermos of coffee, two egg sandwiches.

Out all night.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2013 at 11:50 PM

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