Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on November 16, 2013 by Allahpundit

Several insurance industry officials and state insurance commissioners expressed frustration Friday, saying they were “baffled” by President Barack Obama’s assertion that the cancellation of millions of insurance policies occurred because a key provision of the Affordable Care Act didn’t work as expected. The administration was warned three years ago that regulations would have exactly that effect, they said…

“We have been saying for years that the requirements in the law were going to mean that people couldn’t keep their current plans and they were going to have to purchase coverage that was more expensive,” said one high-level heath industry insider who spoke on condition of anonymity. “We said these changes would disrupt coverage and increase premiums for consumers. And now everything we said is coming true and people are acting surprised.”

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Three health insurers faced a prescient question the night of Nov. 13: What if President Obama suddenly preserves health plans that do not comply with the Affordable Care Act?…

“The unanimous response was, ‘That’s impossible. Those plans are gone,’” O’Grady says…

“It would be a mad scramble to file rates. And it would be a huge administrative burden to go into great detail explaining why we’re letting substandard policies continue,” O’Grady says. “We’re six weeks away from Jan. 1. All that is almost impossible to do now.”…

O’Grady says he does not know what to expect next.

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The insurers, many of whom expressed anger that the president had not consulted them before Thursday’s announcement, said they had come away from the meeting [with Obama] willing to work with the White House on the cancellation issue and still protect the financial viability of the new insurance marketplaces. They did not discuss in detail how the president’s goal might be achieved…

At the meeting, insurers emphasized their concerns that the president’s proposal could actually lead to higher insurance prices in 2015 and beyond by skewing the mix of customers in the new insurance marketplace. In other words, people who now have cheaper insurance — because their plans have fewer benefits — may still choose to keep them, rather than buying the new policies. Generally, those people are thought to be younger and healthier…

Logan Harrison, chief deputy commissioner of the Indiana Department of Insurance, said his state had not decided how to proceed but the fact that they were having to scramble to do anything was maddening.

“This is absurd,” he said. The president, he said, made a “purely political decision” that punts his problem squarely into the laps of state insurance commissioners. “It’s unfair to us and our citizens.” A number of other state officials, both Democrats and Republicans, echoed Mr. Harrison’s frustration but were not willing to speak on the record.

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A cursory discussion with almost anyone who knows anything about the insurance business would have alerted the president to the fact that his proposal is unworkable. The initial take from experts on both the right and the left is that the president did not fix anything yesterday. Insurance industry experts agree that the very idea that canceled health policies can be renewed or extended for one year is laughable — especially with the cumbersome rules that would have to accompany any such temporary reinstatements or extensions. One must assume the White House consulted experts before President Obama announced his plan. So we can rule out delusion. Surely this was an informed decision … right?…

Now we are headed into the holiday season, when families will get together and trade stories of the personal turmoil they’ve experienced thanks to the president and his Democratic allies. Very few will share happy tales of satisfaction with Obamacare or anything else the president is doing right now.

Yes, things will ultimately get better, but the president and his allies are in for a long, cold winter.

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But on the broader question of whether Obama can rebuild an effective presidency after this debacle, it’s starting to look as if it may be game over.

The record for recent second-term presidents is not good: Reagan had Iran-contra, Clinton had impeachment and Bush had Katrina and Iraq. Once a president suffers a blow such as Obama is now suffering with his health-care law — in which the public not only disapproves of a president’s actions but starts to take a negative view of him personally — it is difficult to recover…

We have seen this before. After the flubbed response to Katrina in 2005, George W. Bush’s honest-and-trustworthy rating fell below 50 percent for the first time, and it never returned.

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“The elements of hope and change just aren’t there,” said one former senior administration official, who worked on the campaign and went on to work in the Obama White House…

“On a question of competency, an in particular for this White House which sold themselves as technically competent, they failed so spectacularly on the president’s number one priority,” Fratto said. “That’s really hard to recover from. It tends to be lasting and it’s very difficult to bounce back. I don’t know if there’s much the White House can do about it now.”…

One observer close to the West Wing described staff as being in “full triage mode.”

“They’re only focusing on the things around them that have a potential to crash around them…the things that if not immediately addressed will put [Obama] deeper and deeper in the quicksand.”

“It’s a serious problem,” one official said,“ and there’s a palpable sense of urgency” that its not typical of the way the no-drama-Obama West Wing works.

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The current troubles of the Obama presidency can be read back into its beginnings. Rule by personal charisma has met its proper fate. The spell has been broken, and the magician stands exposed. We need no pollsters to tell us of the loss of faith in Mr. Obama’s policies—and, more significantly, in the man himself. Charisma is like that. Crowds come together and they project their needs onto an imagined redeemer. The redeemer leaves the crowd to its imagination: For as long as the charismatic moment lasts—a year, an era—the redeemer is above and beyond judgment. He glides through crises, he knits together groups of varied, often clashing, interests. Always there is that magical moment, and its beauty, as a reference point…

A leader who set out to remake the health-care system in the country, a sixth of the national economy, on a razor-thin majority with no support whatsoever from the opposition party, misunderstood the nature of democratic politics. An election victory is the beginning of things, not the culmination. With Air Force One and the other prerogatives of office come the need for compromise, and for the disputations of democracy. A president who sought consensus would have never left his agenda on Capitol Hill in the hands of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi…

If Barack Obama seems like a man alone, with nervous Democrats up for re-election next year running for cover, and away from him, this was the world he made. No advisers of stature can question his policies; the price of access in the Obama court is quiescence before the leader’s will. The imperial presidency is in full bloom.

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Offer them full repeal only. Over and over. Upton showed a crack in their coalition. The tension and fear is building. Build a plan to pressure vulnerable red state Democrats. Hang the stories of the victims of Obamacare around their necks. Make them bleed. Make them own it. Stretch out the pain until consumer and voter pressure does your work for you.

It’s important to not allow them to make an easy, one-time vote and then run home saying, “I know we built the monster. I know, I was there in the lab. I know I popped champagne when it came to life. But now I’m with you, friends! I voted to fix it! I’m a Blue-Dog centrist! Damn, I wish Baron von Obama had done this better! No one could foresee the creature’s murderous rampage!”

No issue has the potential to cause more damage to the Democrats in 2014 and beyond than Obamacare. Let the Democrats’ monster rage.

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All this for a law created to insure the uninsured. Instead, in one month’s time, around 100,000 policies have been sold while millions of Americans on the individual market have had their policies canceled. The law has left the insured uninsured, the president’s purported fix notwithstanding…

As the guys in those Guinness commercials would say, “Brilliant!” Obamacare policy premiums in many cases were already going to cost significantly more money; this “fix” could cause even bigger increases. The law is so deeply flawed, with so many components in direct conflict with one another, that tweaking just one part will accelerate its collapse.

The Obamacare debacle is just getting started — and it only gets worse from here. Repeal and replace.

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Bishbop!

KCB on November 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Sophie!!!

KCB on November 16, 2013 at 8:33 PM

B9!!

KCB on November 16, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Jackie!

KCB on November 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Baby bop.

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM

GG!

KCB on November 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM

CL!!

KCB on November 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Ken?

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:35 PM

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Thank you!

KCB on November 16, 2013 at 8:35 PM

obama!!!

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Welcome. No-one else hare yet.

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:36 PM

collapse, but they can still print money

rob verdi on November 16, 2013 at 8:36 PM

white widow

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:37 PM

I have an idea, lets reduce taxes taxes to zero and just print money

rob verdi on November 16, 2013 at 8:37 PM

yellen is fixing to print more

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:38 PM

I have an idea, lets reduce taxes taxes to zero and just print money

rob verdi on November 16, 2013 at 8:37 PM

That’s a plan!

KCB on November 16, 2013 at 8:38 PM

QE3

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Repeal and Impeach….

d1carter on November 16, 2013 at 8:40 PM

impeach holder first

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:40 PM

beer empty … backsun

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Minor glitch for this.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Repeal and Impeach….

d1carter on November 16, 2013 at 8:40 PM

… and Impale! [h/t VorDaj]

ShainS on November 16, 2013 at 8:43 PM

back to the hundred acre wood

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Resist We Much on November 16, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Saw that on the daily-mail front-page. Worth a look?

gh on November 16, 2013 at 8:48 PM

obama has no shame. Ed Rogers wrote that he should resign, for shame alone.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Correction – Roger Simon asked him to resign…no matter.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Here’s the link

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Ass hole!….that’s what I got to say

Electrongod on November 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM

The insurers, many of whom expressed anger that the president had not consulted them before Thursday’s announcement, said they had come away from the meeting [with Obama] willing to work with the White House on the cancellation issue and still protect the financial viability of the new insurance marketplaces. They did not discuss in detail how the president’s goal might be achieved…

So the insurance companies are getting a tax payer bailout?

txhsmom on November 16, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Happy Ramadan, Barack. You POS.

teacherman on November 16, 2013 at 8:53 PM

And this from now

…and the charlatan still has not resigned, and still has no shame.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 8:56 PM

What was discussed in the Insurance Crony meeting with the Pysc0path elect?

Inquiring minds want to know. When can we find out?

BoxHead1 on November 16, 2013 at 8:56 PM

…everybody on vacation this week?

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Ass hole!….that’s what I got to say

Electrongod on November 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM

…I miss you buddy!

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Psych0path elect – spell check dint catch it.

BoxHead1 on November 16, 2013 at 9:00 PM

it’s vewwy vewwy quiet … is someone huntin’ wabbits?

gh on November 16, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Now we are headed into the holiday season, when families will get together and trade stories of the personal turmoil they’ve experienced thanks to the president and his Democratic allies. Very few will share happy tales of satisfaction with Obamacare or anything else the president is doing right now.

Obama the Grinch who stole Christmas.

Sorry little Johny and little sally, you will just get one candy bar each as we now have to pay so much more for medical insurance.

VorDaj on November 16, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Happy Ramadan, Barack. You POS.

teacherman on November 16, 2013 at 8:53 PM

This going on now, lots of dead in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, obama’s cousins.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 9:02 PM

poohsticks anyone?

gh on November 16, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Yes, things will ultimately get better, but the president and his allies are in for a long, cold winter.

Obama will probably have the temp up at 80 degrees, unlike all those who, thanks to him, will have to choose between medical care and heating the house.

VorDaj on November 16, 2013 at 9:03 PM

That job can age a person. Obama and I are about the same age, and when he first took office, we looked it. Now he looks oooooold. That sort of continuous prevarication ages a man. GWB aged about 20 years between 9/11 and 9/13 2001 (didn’t we all?) But he didn’t age a day after that, because his conscience was clear.

notropis on November 16, 2013 at 9:05 PM

said one high-level heath industry insider who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Huh?

Cleombrotus on November 16, 2013 at 9:06 PM

…I miss you buddy!

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2013 at 8:58 PM

:) I am getting better…..

Electrongod on November 16, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Sparky cracked me up..said shriveled Slimjim…or something.

bazil9 on November 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Obama is Pharoah Misanthrope, hater of all mankind.

VorDaj on November 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM

((((Electrongod)))

bazil9 on November 16, 2013 at 9:08 PM

shriveled Slimjim (:

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 PM

bazil9 on November 16, 2013 at 9:08 PM</blockquote :)

Take care..my daughter just turned on the projector

:)

You are my friends…..

Chat later….

Electrongod on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 PM

:) I am getting better…..

Electrongod on November 16, 2013 at 9:06 PM

…good!…B9 is hugging you… for me!

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 PM

shriveled Slimjim (:

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 PM

lmao..perfect..love it

bazil9 on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Electrongod on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Enjoy EG and have a good night!

bazil9 on November 16, 2013 at 9:14 PM

So an Irishman, an Englishman and an Italian walk into a bar.
The Englishman says ObamaCare.

The place bursts into raucous laughter.

That’s the joke.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 9:14 PM

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Now you Koolaid…are special….

Take care….

Chat with you tomorrow…:)

Electrongod on November 16, 2013 at 9:14 PM

bazil9 on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 PM

How bout bony pepperoni.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Like a dog without a bone.

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:17 PM

I signed up for ObamaCare just two short weeks ago and it was so easy. I got through the whole application and approval process through that wonderful new web site and in less than 3 minutes on my very first try. And the results are fantastic! My acne has cleared up, all the grey has disappeared from my hair, my teeth are all 12 shades whiter, I’ve lost 2 inches from my waist, and I can now even read the fine print at the very bottom right on the eye chart – “Made in China”. I feel at least 25 years younger already. Thank you, President Obama!!!

VorDaj on November 16, 2013 at 9:17 PM

How bout bony pepperoni.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Funny but shriveled Slimjim was just hilarious. 9 stars.
You kill me.

bazil9 on November 16, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Do you use feeler guages to check gaps? Which kind do you think are better?

SAE or metric.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 9:19 PM

When will Congress impeach President Law Breaker?

Dusty on November 16, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Signing off….

Take care Hot Airians…

Electrongod on November 16, 2013 at 9:20 PM

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Wuss, I use fingers…and tongue.

cozmo on November 16, 2013 at 9:22 PM

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Just some old ones from a long time ago. Several, Standard, Whitworth, even Metric. I guess I’d trust em. ; )

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:24 PM

ROFL

Anti-Control on November 16, 2013 at 9:23 PM

I’m not quite laughing yet, but the signs are starting to show.

0bama may create more young republicans than Nixon created young democrats.

Now that’s something I can cheer on 0bama for.

cozmo on November 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM

No issue has the potential to cause more damage to the Democrats in 2014 and beyond than Obamacare. Let the Democrats’ monster rage.

The best way to get rid of a very bad law is to enforce it very strictly. – Abraham Lincoln

VorDaj on November 16, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Traffic Magic

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM

No way to compare Katrina to this. Bush did what any president would have done. Local -state -federal is the jurisdiction. Everyone below the governer of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans flew the coup. Like it or not the federal government is not the first responder in natural disasters. However, the government should not be the creator in man made disasters. Obama created this and bears all the responsibility but he’s is not man enough to take it.

jaywemm on November 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM

cozmo on November 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Hope you’re right cozmo. Pendulum swings hard. To a better future. *clink!*

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Clink back at ya’.

The alternative is too depressing.

cozmo on November 16, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Mr Fantasy

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:34 PM

cozmo on November 16, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Plus, I got way to much to accomplish first. Lol. ; )

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:35 PM

USC fan using “Stanford Supports Obamacare” sign as an insult on ESPN’s College Gameday this morning.

ROFL

Anti-Control on November 16, 2013 at 9:23 PM

My, oh, my! That is great! And in California, no less. This is the extent to which the mighty Obama has fallen.

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Percy Bysshe Shelley, Ozymandias

Closing in on seven weeks and no let up yet on the disaster and mockery of ObamaCare.

INC on November 16, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Huh? I’m out of pocket…

ladyingray on November 16, 2013 at 9:40 PM

It was never about providing affordable healthcare. It was always about expanding the government coffers and power. Grab it, figure out what to do with it later.

MT on November 16, 2013 at 9:40 PM

It was never about providing affordable healthcare. It was always about expanding the government coffers and power. Grab it, figure out what to do with it later.

MT on November 16, 2013 at 9:40 PM

Yup.

ladyingray on November 16, 2013 at 9:42 PM

For novaculus

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:42 PM

I’m not quite laughing yet, but the signs are starting to show.

That sign was funny, no matter what the current circumstances are!

This is how I feel:

“You wanna know what comes between me and my Calvin’s sense of humor? Nothing.” :)

0bama may create more young republicans than Nixon created young democrats.

Now that’s something I can cheer on 0bama for.

cozmo on November 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I remember the 2010 elections not going so well for the Dumbocrats…

Anti-Control on November 16, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Anti-Control on November 16, 2013 at 9:43 PM

I never understood what people saw in her.

cozmo on November 16, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Spine in a Sack

gh on November 16, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Just a thought experiment. If Romney had been elected, wouldn’t the Dems and the media be screaming SABOTAGE? And more focus put on this type of scheme being a Republican idea? And more pressure on the Republicans to fix this mess?

KMav on November 16, 2013 at 9:54 PM

INC on November 16, 2013 at 9:46 PM

; )

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:55 PM

INC on November 16, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Obama can’t be those things since they were made to last.

The Nerve on November 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM

I guess the trolls are too busy trying to find free-universal-state-sponsored-rationed-health-coverage now that their policy that they thought they could keep has been cancelled.

Lolz.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Lazy

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM

KMav on November 16, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Romney probably would have got the damn site working …

gh on November 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM

My, oh, my! That is great! And in California, no less. This is the extent to which the mighty Obama has fallen.

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Percy Bysshe Shelley, Ozymandias

Closing in on seven weeks and no let up yet on the disaster and mockery of ObamaCare.

INC on November 16, 2013 at 9:37 PM

We’ve got to cope with this man-caused disaster as best we can – humor helps, but that’s not the solution, of course.

I never understood what people saw in her.

cozmo on November 16, 2013 at 9:45 PM

:)

Blondie – “Pretty Baby”

Anti-Control on November 16, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Just stay in bed.

gh on November 16, 2013 at 9:58 PM

For gh

Anti-Control on November 16, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Are we even off page one yet?

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 10:00 PM

No.

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 10:01 PM

The Nerve on November 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Obama is a piker by comparison, but the arrogance and love of power is the same.

INC on November 16, 2013 at 10:02 PM

What the heII has happened?

Bmore on November 16, 2013 at 10:03 PM

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM

I don’t know whether to be happy they are hiding, or sad that we cannot kick them around.

Anti-Control on November 16, 2013 at 9:57 PM

I wonder what would happen if that movie, or nude picture shoot, were to be made nowdays?

cozmo on November 16, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Anti-Control on November 16, 2013 at 10:00 PM

lol … my kids used to watch … the younger one is upstairs baking … she’s in 3rd year uni now …

gh on November 16, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Oh, sure. Start the drinking without me.

Nice.

Just got out of “surgery.”

CurtZHP on November 16, 2013 at 10:04 PM

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