Kay Hagan reaches for the panic button

posted at 8:31 am on November 16, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

We mentioned earlier this week how red state Democrat Senator Kay Hagan of North Carolina had watched as a previously slim but solid lead in the polls had evaporated of late. It seems that this was no momentary glitch in the numbers and the situation continues to deteriorate. The slide continued with what could only be described as a disastrous conference call with reporters, eager to pepper her with questions about her role in the development and launch of Obamacare, which even the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank saw as a ship taking on water.

Well, her problem begins with Obamacare, ends with Obamacare and has a whole lot of Obamacare in between.

Hagan hosted a conference call for reporters Tuesday morning to discuss the problems with the health-care law’s rollout, and the Q&A session was so painful that the senator should qualify for trauma coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

Hagan tried reciting some of the standard issue White House talking points to claw her way out of that one, but things only got worse when one of her spokeswomen followed up to try to clean up the mess. (From Big Government and the local paper the News & Record.)

“First, this is nothing more than a political stunt that does nothing to help more people get access to care and highlights the difference between Kay, who is working to fix this law, and her opponents who don’t have any plan to reform our broken health care system,” Hagan spokeswoman Sadie Weiner told the News and Record, a Greensboro, NC newspaper. “In her capacity as a member of the HELP Committee, Senator Hagan was involved with that committee’s markup of the health care reform bill in the summer of 2009.”

In the next sentence of the quote, Weiner states that her boss Hagan was aware of the fact that people would lose their healthcare plans under Obamacare some time ago.

“Once insurance companies began disingenuously offering plans that they knew they would be canceling it became clear that more people would be getting cancellation letters,” Weiner said.

Did you catch that one – two punch in those answers? Not only was her boss, Senator Hagan, an instrumental player in crafting the bill, but she was also aware that insurance companies were going to be cancelling policies as soon as it went into effect. It’s bad enough that the popularity of Obamacare in North Carolina is rapidly approaching that of a raging case of the crabs, but that sort of admission plants her firmly in the series of shifting denials and stories about precisely who knew what when.

If Kay Hagan, one of the busy bees working on the bill, was aware that many people who liked their policy would not, in fact, be able to keep it, how did the President not know? Did she not find it worth mentioning to him? And since the “you can’t keep that” effect is presumably hitting people in her own state, how does she square up not letting the voters in on this little secret before she voted for it? Either way, somebody has some explaining to do, and there is a pack of GOP challengers who are all very interested in that Senate seat who are more than happy to discuss the matter with her in the coming battle. I think we can put North Carolina in play as one of the six seats the GOP needs to pick up next year.


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really hoping this favorable political environment causes more candidates to emerge in GOP primaries in places like SC, NC, TN

commodore on November 16, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Heh. Crabs.

Akzed on November 16, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Hubris meet Nemesis.

vityas on November 16, 2013 at 8:38 AM

That is the millstone around your neck dragging you to the bottom of the Marianas Trench you harlot.

Murphy9 on November 16, 2013 at 8:39 AM

her opponents who don’t have any plan to reform our broken health care system”

What was so hopelessly “broken” about our health care system?

The fact that 30 million Americans were uninsured? Obamacare does nothing to fix that. The government itself admits that even after Obamacare is fully implemented (if that ever happens), there will still be at least 30 million uninsured Americans, and probably more.

Or was our system “broken” because, before O-Care, 85% of Americans reported being satisfied with the health care plans they had?

Or was our healthcare system “broken” because health care costs were rising? Because again, Obamacare does nothing to fix that — a fact that even die-hard libs like Bob Beckel now admit. Instead, Obamacare adds multiple new layers of bureaucracy and multiple new reporting requirements to our health care system — things that always cause costs to rise.

Our health care system wasn’t perfect before Obamacare, but it certainly wasn’t “broken” either. But it is now. Thanks to idiots like this woman.

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Only problem being, the stupid party is going to find a way to fumble this.

rbj on November 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina, the state’s largest insurer, will allow tens of thousands of customers to stay on lapsed health policies next year.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/11/15/3373760/wayne-goodwin-urges-nc-health.html#storylink=cpy

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Turn on obozo, Kay. You know you want to. Just go out there and tell people he lied to you and he used you. Say you’re made as hell and you’re not going to take it. Come on, Kay. You can do it.

Flange on November 16, 2013 at 8:44 AM

was no momentary glitch
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D*mn these bloody Glitchy’s, its getting to be an
epidemic sumpin sumpins!!
(sarc)

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 8:44 AM

You can’t fix the ACA. It’s a combination of every bad product out on the market that no informed person would buy. It’s a bad financial product, it’s overpriced, it’s difficult to use … it’s like playing in a poker tournament where only half the entry fee is paid out. It’s like leasing a car at full price with every disadvantage written in the contract. It’s like renting a $200 TV by paying $40 a month for a year. It’s every bad product metaphor you can think of. It’s like answering robocalls saying you just won a free vacation to Disneyworld. It’s like buying that fabulous cleaning product you saw on TV, and ordering 2 more for free, you just have to pay shipping and handling. It’s like getting the undercoating when you’re buying a car.

It’s a total joke.

Paul-Cincy on November 16, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Hmmm, ………………………

*********** Political Collateral Damage ***********************!!

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 8:47 AM

The more they speak the deeper it gets… architects of their own demise.

This could all be written into a very lovely bedtime story about honesty and lying. It is for the children after all.

Then again… the Dem version would be about how little girls have a pre-existing condition as they are utero-Americans.

PermanentWaves on November 16, 2013 at 8:50 AM

I once sat next to Kay Hagan at a fete years before she wanted to become a senator. She wasn’t very nice once she found out I was not… well healed. I hope she goes down in flames. Plus, just in case anyone wants to know, especially OWS types … she is a member of the dreaded 1% – you know – those rich types that horde all the wealth … in other words, if worse came to worse, she could pay for luxury health care out of pocket and not miss a beat… so, all of this Obamacare horror is no skin off her nose…

djl130 on November 16, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Well, her problem begins with Obamacare, ends with Obamacare and has a whole lot of Obamacare in between.
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Oh Boy,……. its a shot across every Lib/Dem/ProgressiveTards bow!!

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Do watcha gotta do.

David Blue on November 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM

It is a condition of my admission to this great land that I am not allowed to foment the overthrow of the United States government. Oh, I signed it airily enough, but you’d be surprised, as the years go by, how often the urge to foment starts to rise in one’s gullet. Fortunately, at least as far as constitutional government goes, the president of the United States is doing a grand job of overthrowing it all by himself.

On Thursday, he passed a new law at a press conference.
George III never did that. But, having ordered America’s insurance companies to comply with Obamacare, the president announced that he is now ordering them not to comply with Obamacare. The legislative branch (as it’s still quaintly known) passed a law purporting to grandfather your existing health plan. The regulatory bureaucracy then interpreted the law so as to un-grandfather your health plan. So His Most Excellent Majesty has commanded that your health plan be de-un-grandfathered. That seems likely to work. The insurance industry had three years to prepare for the introduction of Obamacare. Now the King has given them six weeks to de-introduce Obamacare

Akzed on November 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM

NC: vote her out!!

Khun Joe on November 16, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Hagan is done. We also need to get rid of Burr in 2016.

Panther on November 16, 2013 at 8:55 AM

Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina, the state’s largest insurer, will allow tens of thousands of customers to stay on lapsed health policies next year.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/11/15/3373760/wayne-goodwin-urges-nc-health.html#storylink=cpy

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Till right after the election? Yeah, they’re STILL working for the democrats. It’s a curious thing, to watch an industry get into bed with a bunch of venal politicians hell bent on destroying that very industry.

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Ya know,…i do wonder if there will be bused in Goons, to occupy Hagens yard in manufactured OutRagey OutRage!!

Kinda like, when Obama orchrestrated the CEO Terror Campaign,way back,
when they were threatening there families and camping out in there yards!!!
(sarc)

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 8:58 AM

I’d sure like to know what has been told to these insurers by the federal and state governments to get them to go along with providing illegal insurance policies just because the governments promise not to prosecute them for doing so. Are they promising to cover their losses in court cases they lose if and when policy holders take them to court in disputes over claims?

Dusty on November 16, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Great the NC seat is in play! What good does it do conservatives if the seat is won by another Graham, McCain, or Spector?

chicken thief on November 16, 2013 at 9:01 AM

The Associated Press ‏@AP 6m

President Obama struggles to save his cherished health law from the clutches of his own administration: http://apne.ws/1iixBy9 -CJ
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Obama struggles to save his cherished health law
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR
— Nov. 16, 2013 8:15 AM EST
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama’s health care law risks coming unglued because of his administration’s bungles and his own inflated promises.

To avoid that fate, Obama needs breakthroughs on three fronts: the cancellations mess, technology troubles and a crisis in confidence among his own supporters.

Working in his favor are pent-up demands for the program’s benefits and an unlikely collaborator in the insurance industry.

But even after Obama gets the enrollment website working, count on new controversies. On the horizon is the law’s potential impact on job-based insurance. Its mandate that larger employers offer coverage will take effect in 2015.

For now, odds still favor the Affordable Care Act’s survival. But after making it through the Supreme Court, a presidential election, numerous congressional repeal votes and a government shutdown, the law has yet to win broad acceptance.

“There’s been nothing normal about this law from the start,” said Larry Levitt, an insurance expert with the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation. “There’s been no period of smooth sailing.”

Other government mandates have taken root in American culture after initial resistance. It may be a simplistic comparison, but most people automatically fasten their seat belts nowadays when they get in the car. Few question government-required safety features such as air bags, even if those add to vehicle costs.

Levitt says the ACA may yet have that kind of influence on how health insurance is viewed. “An expectation that everybody should have health insurance is now a topic of conversation in families,” he says.

That conversation was interrupted by news that the HealthCare.gov website didn’t work and that people with coverage were getting cancellation notices despite Obama’s promise that you can keep your insurance.

Obama maneuvered this past week to extricate Democrats from the cancellations fallout.

The president offered a one-year extension to more than 4.2 million people whose current individual policies are being canceled by insurers to make way for more comprehensive coverage under the law. This move by the White House was intended to smooth a disruption for which his administration completely failed to plan.

But it also invited unintended consequences, showing how easily the law’s complicated framework can start to come loose.

State insurance commissioners warned that the president’s solution would undermine a central goal of the law, the creation of one big insurance pool in each state for people who don’t have access to coverage on their jobs. Fracturing that market could lead to higher future premiums for people buying coverage through the law’s new insurance exchanges, which offer government-subsidized private insurance.

That Obama is willing to take such a gamble could make it harder for him to beat back demands for other changes down the line.

On the cancellations front, the president seems unlikely to break through. He may yet battle to a political draw.

Obama realizes it’s on him to try to turn things around, and quickly. In the first couple of weeks after the website debacle, Obama played the sidelines role of “Reassurer-in-Chief.” Now he’s on the field, trying to redeem himself.

“I’m somebody who, if I fumbled the ball, I’m going to wait until I get the next play, and then I’m going to try to run as hard as I can and do right by the team,” Obama said Thursday at a news conference.

Making sure the website is running a lot better by the end of the month may be his best chance for a game-changing play.

Although only 26,794 people signed up in health plans through the federal site the first month of open enrollment, 993,635 applied for coverage and were waiting to finalize decisions. For many it took hours of persistence, dealing with frozen screens and error messages. When states running their own sites are included, a total of 1.5 million individuals have applied.

The law’s supporters believe that’s evidence of pent-up demand, and so far the insurance industry agrees. Public criticism of the administration by industry leaders has been minimal, even though insurers also have been on the receiving end of the website problems. Compounding the lower-than-expected sign-ups, much of the customer data they got was incomplete, duplicative or garbled.

Insurers, eager for the new business expanded coverage would bring, are pressing the administration to clear a route for them to sign up customers directly. Such workarounds may put Obama back on track toward his goal of signing up 7 million people for 2014. Medicaid expansion, the other arm of the law’s push to cover the uninsured, signed up 396,000 people last month, a promising start.

With the website troubles, a national effort to promote insurance enrollments has been dialed down. Groups ranging from liberal activists and civic clubs to health promoters were mobilized and waiting. But there was little they could do. Advertising campaigns have been postponed. As the year-end holidays approach, both volunteers and the people they would be trying to reach have other priorities.

Whether enthusiasm among the rank-and-file supporters of the law will come surging back is one of the big unknowns for a president who has acknowledged the need to restore his credibility on health care.

“I think people have lost confidence in the ability of this working,” said Kansas Insurance Commissioner Sandy Praeger. “And we’ve still got the anti-Obamacare folks out there taking full advantage.” Praeger is a Republican who believes her state should have helped implement the law.

Skittishness among supporters was evident in the 39 House Democrats who Friday bolted their party to vote for Republican legislation on cancellations, ignoring Obama’s veto threat.

Politics is not the only consideration.

The people who are signing up now are likely to be those with unmet medical needs. Younger, healthier customers probably don’t see much reason to spend their time tangling with the website. To hold down costs, the law aims for a mix that includes a hefty proportion of younger enrollees whose medical expenses are low.

“Everybody said the website would be up and running the first day,” said Praeger. “The longer it takes, the more people are going to question whether this is going to work.”

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obama-struggles-save-his-cherished-health-law

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM

her opponents who don’t have any plan to reform our broken health care system”

The Health Care Reform Act is being discussed already on many programs. What is the hold up, GOP?

Getting real tired of hearing this, when the GOP is siitting on the legislation they have written and ready to roll!

Why not introduce it?!

mountainaires on November 16, 2013 at 9:05 AM

really hoping this favorable political environment causes more candidates to emerge in GOP primaries in places like SC, NC, TN

commodore on November 16, 2013 at 8:33 AM

But I’m not so sure it matters anymore. I can’t see the GOP reversing a lot of these executive orders, higher taxes and regulations that the Communists have put into place, simply because, they never do. For some reason, the GOP establishment seems quite content to keep Obamacare around. Hmmmm, one would think they were in on it…

Anyone can claim to be a member of any party. Simply registering as a Republican doesn’t mean that one is not a Socialist crook.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 16, 2013 at 9:06 AM

From RNC H.Q.:

RNC Research ‏@RNCResearch 18h
New @RNCResearch Blog Post: Obama’s #ObamaCare Trust Deficit http://www.gop.com/?p=22313
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Obama’s ObamaCare Trust Deficit
Posted November 15, 2013
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Obama Can’t Trust His Own Caucus To Toe His ObamaCare Line

DEMOCRATS HAVE A CHOICE — STAND WITH OBAMA OR STAND WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS
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House Democrats Are Expected To Vote For A “Bill That Would Allow Insurance Companies To Continue Selling Plans Canceled Under ObamaCare.” “House Democrats expect dozens of their members to vote for a Republican bill that would allow health insurance companies to continue selling plans canceled under ObamaCare through 2014, the first test of support on Capitol Hill since the law’s disastrous rollout.” (Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan, “Democrats Gird For Defections On ObamaCare Vote,” Politico, 11/15/13)

Today’s Vote Is One Of The Democrats’ “Toughest Tests Of Party Loyalty In The Five Years Of The Obama Administration.” “The political fallout from the botched launch of the Affordable Care Act is presenting congressional Democrats with one of their toughest tests of party loyalty in the five years of the Obama administration.” (Paul Kane And Jackie Kucinich, “Heath-Care Law’s Problems Test Loyalty Of Democrats In Congress,” Washington Post , 11/14/13)

40 To 50 Democrats Are Expected To Buck President Obama With Their Votes. “Senior Democratic aides say between 40 and 50 of their members might support the bill, penned by House Energy and Commerce Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.).” (Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan, “Democrats Gird For Defections On ObamaCare Vote,” Politico, 11/15/13)

Washington Post Headline: “Heath-Care Law’s Problems Test Loyalty Of Democrats In Congress.” (Paul Kane And Jackie Kucinich, “Heath-Care Law’s Problems Test Loyalty Of Democrats In Congress,” Washington Post , 11/14/13)

DEMOCRATS NO LONGER HAVE FAITH IN OBAMA’S ABILITY TO LEAD
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“President Barack Obama’s Credibility May Have Taken A Big Hit With Voters, But He’s Also In Serious Danger Of Permanently Losing The Trust Of Democrats In Congress.” (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)
After The ObamaCare Debacle, It’s Tough For Democrats To Have Faith In The President. “The ObamaCare debacle has been bad enough that it’s tough for Democrats to take on faith that the president can fix the problems. (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)

Obama’s Allies Are No Longer Sure It’s Wise To Follow Him Into Battle. “His one-time allies are no longer sure that it’s wise to follow him into battle, leaving Obama and his law not only vulnerable to existing critics, but open to new attacks from his own party.” (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)

House Democrat And Obama Supporter: “I Don’t Know How He F-Ed This Up So Badly.” “‘I don’t know how he f–ed this up so badly,’ said one House Democrat who has been very supportive of Obama in the past.” (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)

Obama Can Expect Criticism From Democratic Lawmakers, While They Distance Themselves From His Policies. “For five years, congressional Democrats have often sprung to his defense – or remained quiet – when Obama’s been in trouble, even though many have long complained that he and his team have ignored their interests and concerns on a wide variety of legislative and personal matters. Now, Democratic sources say, Obama can expect that lawmakers will be quicker to criticize him – and distance themselves from his policies – than they have in the past. With Obama now free of the demands of running for reelection, the gloves are off, they say.” (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)

Democrats Are On Their Own When They Face Their Constituents On ObamaCare
Vulnerable Democrats Will Have To Stand Before Their Voters And Explain The ObamaCare Problems. “Congressional Democrats are on the line in 2014. Many of them voted for ObamaCare, defended it in 2010 and will have to stand in front of voters next year and explain the problems. (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)

Rep. Nick Rahall (D-WV): “I’m Concerned About My Integrity With Voters That Have Returned Me [For] 38 Years.” “Rep. Nick J. Rahall II (W.Va.), a 19-term veteran targeted in 2014 by Republicans, said ads are running against him in his district based on the president’s promise to allow Americans to keep their health-care plans ‘I’m concerned about my integrity with voters that have returned me [for] 38 years. They know me enough to know I wouldn’t purposely mislead them and that I’m an honest, straight shooter,’ he said. ‘They have that confidence in me, and I want to continue for them to have that confidence in me. I just need to find the answers myself.’” (Paul Kane And Jackie Kucinich, “Heath-Care Law’s Problems Test Loyalty Of Democrats In Congress,” Washington Post , 11/14/13)

Rahall: Obama’s Credibility Has “Been Damaged, No Question About It.” “Rep. Nick Rahall, a veteran West Virginia Democrat, said the president will have the chance to restore his credibility on Capitol Hill. ‘It’s been damaged, no question about it. But it can be repaired,’ Rahall told POLITICO. ‘There’s just been some unforseen problems here or unintended consequences that I think have certainly led to a misrepresentation about what was said during the campaign and what many people – myself included – believed at the time.’” (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)

Rep Michael Capuano (D-MA) Says The ObamaCare Debacle Has Shaken His Faith In Obama’s Ability To Foresee And Address Future Issues. “Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.) told McDonough he was happy that the president was trying to address the problems but that the episode shook his faith in the administration’s ability to foresee and address future issues. (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)

Capuano: Obama Should Delay The Mandate. “In particular, Capuano said, members of his staff have had just as much trouble signing up for the new exchanges as Americans across the country. He told McDonough the president should delay the mandate that individuals buy insurance or pay a penalty, which is the vital mechanism for constraining prices for people who buy coverage through the exchanges.” (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)

“Rep. Corrine Brown (D-Fla.) Even Chided The White House For Failing To Set Up A Way For Consumers To Sign Up For Insurance Through Smartphone Apps.” (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)

Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA): Obama Was Probably A “Little Too Overconfident And The Rhetoric, Perhaps, Got A Little Hyperbolic In Terms Of How Perfect This Is.” “Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.), who passionately defended the law in the closed-door meeting Thursday, acknowledged in an interview that the White House was probably a ‘little too overconfident and the rhetoric, perhaps, got a little hyperbolic in terms of how perfect this is.’ But he also acknowledged it is more difficult for House Democrats to sign onto the White House’s promises right now, particularly the assurances that the website will be fixed by the end of the month.” (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)

Democrats Who Have Supported ObamaCare Say Obama’s Plan For An “Administration Fix” Isn’t Enough For Them. “Even some Democrats who have been big supporters of the Affordable Care Act told McDonough that Obama’s plan for an administration fix to address health plan cancellations isn’t enough for them. They need a bill to get behind. Translation: In addition to skepticism about the policy, it’s not good politics for them to just fall in line behind Obama on the fix.” (Jonathan Allen And Jake Sherman, “Trust Frays Between President Obama, Democrats,” Politico, 11/14/13)
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http://www.gop.com/news/research/obamas-obamacare-trust-deficit/

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:07 AM

djl130 on November 16, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Forgive me, friend, but do you mean “well heeled” as in having means and able to support her campaign? In the context of a discussion of ACA, it’s not clear.

The War Planner on November 16, 2013 at 9:07 AM

GOP Weekly Address:

11/16/13 – Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) Delivers Weekly GOP Address on Obamacare’s Failures
1 hour ago
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In the Weekly Republican Address, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin calls on Democrats to join Republicans in passing legislation he authored to limit the damage of …

11/16/13 – Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) Delivers Weekly GOP Address on Obamacare’s Failures

Published on Nov 16, 2013
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In the Weekly Republican Address, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin calls on Democrats to join Republicans in passing legislation he authored to limit the damage of the deeply flawed Obamacare health law. Referring to the President’s comments at a news conference this week, Senator Johnson says that President Obama did “far more than just fumble the ball” on the healthcare rollout. Senator Johnson has introduced the ‘If you like your health plan, you can keep it Act,’ which would help millions of Americans keep the health care plans and doctors they like — a promise President Obama made dozens of times both before and after passage of the law. “Unfortunately, the implementation of Obamacare has progressed to a point where millions of cancelled plans cannot be reinstated,” says Senator Johnson. “But the freedom of millions of Americans to keep doctors, treatments, and health plans they do value can still be preserved if Congress acts swiftly and decisively.”
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FFyzc4LGUM&feature=c4-overview&list=UUOKW-o3oYdFmrMNcTLVuaoA

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:10 AM

“I’m somebody who, if I fumbled the ball, I’m going to wait until I get the next play, and then I’m going to try to run as hard as I can and do right by the team,” Obama said Thursday at a news conference.

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM

So, if this is a the metaphor Obama has chosen I want to know why he refers to himself as a player and not the coach. I would ask him if as president should HE not be the one calling the plays?

DaveDief on November 16, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Our health care system wasn’t perfect before Obamacare, but it certainly wasn’t “broken” either. But it is now. Thanks to idiots like this woman.

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM

To them it was irredeemably broken as it was not a wholly owned apparatus of the Feral Government.

If you disagree… h8ter!

turfmann on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Although I despise democrats with every fiber of my existence, you have to admire the chutzpah(sp?) of someone who claims to be fixing our “broken” health care system, after they smashed the shards into splinters.

WryTrvllr on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 AM

So, if this is a the metaphor Obama has chosen I want to know why he refers to himself as a player and not the coach. I would ask him if as president should HE not be the one calling the plays?

DaveDief on November 16, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Or ask him if he should be benched for fumbling, after all, he always was a bench warmer.

Flange on November 16, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Hagan is done. We also need to get rid of Burr in 2016.

Panther on November 16, 2013 at 8:55 AM

He’s pro-gay. I should think you’d like him. No a “socon” at all.

smoothsailing on November 16, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Hagan spokeswoman Sadie Weiner

Do you automatically have to be an effing idiot if your last name is Weiner. Rhetorical.

msupertas on November 16, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Speaking of Leftys, er,faaaaaaaaar Left:

Seattle elects socialist candidate to city council
By MANUEL VALDES
— Nov. 15, 2013 11:23 PM EST
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Seattle voters have elected a socialist to city council for the first time in modern history.

Kshama Sawant’s lead continued to grow on Friday, prompting 16-year incumbent Richard Conlin to concede.
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/seattle-elects-socialist-city-council

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:18 AM

chicken thief on November 16, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Her seat is not just in play, she’s done. You cannot find a single person in my area with a favorable opionion of her … except those who would vote for a cow pie if it had a D on it.

smoothsailing on November 16, 2013 at 9:20 AM

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM

So, if this is a the metaphor Obama has chosen I want to know why he refers to himself as a player and not the coach. I would ask him if as president should HE not be the one calling the plays?

DaveDief on November 16, 2013 at 9:12 AM

DaveDief: Dare I say Hopey is the entire TEAM, (sarc)!:)

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:21 AM

you have to admire the chutzpah(sp?) of someone who claims to be fixing our “broken” health care system, after they smashed the shards into splinters.

WryTrvllr on November 16, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Yep, Republicans need to aggressively challenge the faulty premise that our health care system was “broken” before Obamacare, and that Obamacare was the only way to fix it.

Here are some talking points for them:

(1) Democrats claim that our health care system was “broken” because there were millions of Americans without health insurance. However, Obamacare does not solve that problem. The government itself admits that even after Obamacare is fully operational, there will still be more than 30 million uninsured Americans.

(2) Democrats claim that Americans weren’t happy with the “rip off” and “sub-standard” insurance policies they had before Obamacare. In fact, 85% of Americans with health insurance reported that they were satisfied with the coverage they had.

(3) Democrats claim that health care costs were rising too quickly and threatening to bankrupt Americans before Obamacare. But Obamacare does absolutely nothing to contain health care costs; in fact, it does the opposite. By adding many layers of new government bureaucracy, adding multiple new reporting requirements, adding multiple new taxes and subsidies, Obamacare ensures that health care costs will continue to rise, and will go up even more than they would have without Obamacare.

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Maybe she should get Obama down there to campaign for her…..

albill on November 16, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Till right after the election?
Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Not sure. If BC/BS has to go back and re-cancel these uncancelled policies next year, I don’t know if the timing of the notices will actually occur after the election. They are/were/may be again, my insurance carrier and I got my letter of cancellation and “transitioning to an O’care compliant” policy 6 weeks ago- along with the doubling of my rate. If the company handles the cancellation process the same way next year, those notices will hit right before the election.

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 9:26 AM

<blockquote>“Once insurance companies began disingenuously offering plans that they knew they would be canceling…..”

If that’s the best they can do, I hope the senator enjoys her retirement from politics.

tgharris on November 16, 2013 at 9:27 AM

So, if this is a the metaphor Obama has chosen I want to know why he refers to himself as a player and not the coach. I would ask him if as president should HE not be the one calling the plays?

DaveDief on November 16, 2013 at 9:12 AM

It’s Obama. Remember, he’s smarter and better than everybody else. He can do everybody else’s job better than they can. (“I’m a better political director than my political director; I know more about policies than my policy advisers; I’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters.”)

So clearly he would have to be both the coach and all the players on the team!

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Well, her problem begins with Obamacare, ends with Obamacare and has a whole lot of Obamacare in between.

Hagan hosted a conference call for reporters Tuesday morning to discuss the problems with the health-care law’s rollout, and the Q&A session was so painful that the senator should qualify for trauma coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

Not a big fan of ANY WaPo editorialist but that’s some pretty funny stuff right there.

Cleombrotus on November 16, 2013 at 9:31 AM

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 9:23 AM

True that.

Expect the republicans to twist the knife in any moment.

WryTrvllr on November 16, 2013 at 9:32 AM

“It’s bad enough that the popularity of Obamacare in North Carolina is rapidly approaching that of a raging case of the crabs…”

Actually, The Crabs are up 6 points over O-care in the most recent polling. Gonorrhea and Chlamydia are lagging but within the margin of error.

Alberta_Patriot on November 16, 2013 at 9:32 AM

The N&R has been reliably leftist the last 25 years. Of course, their readership is way down these days.

We’re stuck with gigantic leftist universities in the Old North State. The Dems also have an historic advantage in voter registration. This ain’t over yet.

mankai on November 16, 2013 at 9:32 AM

FIRE FRANKEN>>>>and mark Dayton…..

crosshugger on November 16, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Not sure. If BC/BS has to go back and re-cancel these uncancelled policies next year, I don’t know if the timing of the notices will actually occur after the election. They are/were/may be again, my insurance carrier and I got my letter of cancellation and “transitioning to an O’care compliant” policy 6 weeks ago- along with the doubling of my rate. If the company handles the cancellation process the same way next year, those notices will hit right before the election.

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 9:26 AM

The regime and their PARTNERS in this mess — the insurance companies — will make damn sure those cancellations next year go out AFTER the election. The only “problem” they have here is the looming election. People losing their insurance, thousands of doctors dropped from insurers, the exchanges costing 5 to 10 times as much as the canceled policies? These are NOT problems for the regime — they do not care — except that it occurred before the midterms. Their entire focus is kicking this shit down the road BEYOND the midterms. Then, it’ll be cancel, cancel, cancel, pay, pay, pay. And Zero and his insurance executive friends will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh. And Killery gets to have clean hands.

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Old and busted:

You didn’t build that.

New hotness:

You can’t keep that.

Kafir on November 16, 2013 at 9:37 AM

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 9:23 AM

The talking point I hear is instead of going to a doctor for a routine problem, the uninsured are going to the emergency room, for much more expensive care. Ergo, ObamaCare to fix that.

That sounds weak. If they’re indigent, don’t they already qualify for Medicaid? And if they’re indigent, what do they care if they go to a doctor, or to the ER? I mean, why go to the trouble of having a doctor and having to schedule appointments and so on? So, by what margin will ObamaCare cut down on these kinds of ER visits? Are we going to forbid people going to the ER for non-ER medical complaints? (I seriously doubt it)

It strains credibility that we must completely overhaul the health care system because too many poor people use the ER for routine medical care, and it’s costing us too much money.

Paul-Cincy on November 16, 2013 at 9:38 AM

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Good points… what are the chances the GOP actually uses them?

The GOP strategists are more inclined to play games than to go after substance… which is why Americans are wholly ignorant of the ideas behind conservatism. They don’t like to talk policy, they sit back and spit out one-liners which often come back to haunt them.

The Left at least has, “we’ll give you free stuff and the GOP wants to take away your rights and stuff. Homophobes, racists, misogynists, all!” The GOP has allowed the Left to define it for the last 15 years

mankai on November 16, 2013 at 9:40 AM

It is a condition of my admission to this great land that I am not allowed to foment the overthrow of the United States government.

There is a huge difference between seeking to overthrow a government, and seeking to defend it from enemies, foreign and domestic.

BobMbx on November 16, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Oh Kay,Debbie is running on Obamacare,how about you?

docflash on November 16, 2013 at 9:48 AM

The regime and their PARTNERS in this mess — the insurance companies — will make damn sure those cancellations next year go out AFTER the elections.

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 9:34 AM

I won’t dispute that…but people like me who live in NC, who buy policies on the individual market, and have seen first hand the doubling and tripling of premiums know full well what will be looming around the corner at the end of next year. Will everyone forget if they don’t get a notice that reminds them that the coverage they have/like/ and can afford is going out the window for a second time? I don’t think so…at least I hope not.

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM

obama has weakened his own AHC with all his waivers and now recommending reinstatement of the policies for those cancelled, further decreasing participation in his plan. he’s the architect with the wrecking ball. Come january 1 the AHC will look like the twin towers coming down on 9/11…an unmitigated disaster at the hands of barack husein obama. welcome to america.

gracie on November 16, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Oh Kay,Debbie is running on Obamacare,how about you?

docflash on November 16, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Not yet, lol.

Biden, Dem. Senator Hagan Don’t Mention Obamacare at Fundraiser

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-dem-senator-hagan-dont-mention-obamacare-fundraiser_767200.html

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM

I won’t dispute that…but people like me who live in NC, who buy policies on the individual market, and have seen first hand the doubling and tripling of premiums know full well what will be looming around the corner at the end of next year. Will everyone forget if they don’t get a notice that reminds them that the coverage they have/like/ and can afford is going out the window for a second time? I don’t think so…at least I hope not.

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Sorry, but I think 51% at least will believe it. These venal politicians will lie and lie and lie right up until election day, and in many cases they’ll convince 51%+ of the voters. You’ve got to remember that when those cancellations come just after the election, the politicians WILL NOT CARE. Hasn’t a thing to do with them. They’ve just won re-election — in the Senate for 6 years — they’ll tell any lie to get there, and then walk away when the cancellations come.

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 9:55 AM

The non-compliant plans can not be re-instated in NC. Blue Cross is going through the motions so they cannot be blamed for taking away your insurance. They must re-file those plans and the associated rates; the rates must be ObamaCare compliant, with the Dept of Insurance. Once approved Blue Cross must give their customers a 45-day notice of any rate action. Sunday is the cut off to be in compliance with NC Statute. I know what you’re thinking; since when does the law keep the Liberals from doing what they want: a Republican Legislature with a very conservative Speaker of the House who is running against Sen. Hagen and a Republican Governor. The Democrat Commissioner of Insurance will never be able to approve the plans in time.

Hopeless Future on November 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 15h

Health Insurance CEOs meeting today with Pres Obama: • Mark Bertolini, President & CEO, Aetna • Bruce (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rrmd2v
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Mark Knoller @markknoller

15th November 2013 from TwitLonger
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Health Insurance CEOs meeting today with Pres Obama:
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• Mark Bertolini, President & CEO, Aetna
• Bruce Broussard, CEO, Humana
• Chet Burrell, CEO, CareFirst
• David Cordani, President & CEO, Cigna Healthcare
• Jay M. Gellert, President & CEO, Health Net, Inc.
• Patrick Geraghty, CEO, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida
• Patricia Hemingway Hall, President & CEO, Health Care Services Corporation
• Daniel J. Hilferty, President & CEO, Independence Blue Cross
• Karen Ignagni, President & CEO, America’s Health Insurance Plans
• Dr. J. Mario Molina, President & CEO, Molina Healthcare
• James Roosevelt, Jr., President & CEO, Tufts Health Plan
• Scott Serota, President & CEO, Blue Cross Blue Shield Association
• Joseph R. Swedish, CEO, Wellpoint
• Bernard Tyson, President & CEO, Kaiser Permanente
• J. Bradley Wilson, President and CEO, Blue Cross Blue Shield North Carolina
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rrmd2v

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM

The talking point I hear is instead of going to a doctor for a routine problem, the uninsured are going to the emergency room, for much more expensive care. Ergo, ObamaCare to fix that.

Except that Obamacare doesn’t fix that.

The reason that people can go to the E.R. and get treated for “free” is because of a federal law known as E.M.T.A.L.A. that was passed back in the 1980′s. This law requires all hospitals that accept federal funds (which is virtually all U.S. hospitals) to treat all persons who show up in their E.R.s, regardless of ability to pay, regardless of insurance status, and regardless of citizenship status.

It is because of EMTALA that so many pregnant illegal alien females come across the border right before they go into labor, so that they can have their baby for “free” in a nice U.S. hospital (with the added benefit that their baby will also get U.S. citizenship and qualify for all sorts of other “free” taxpayer-funded benefits). It was also EMTALA that gave birth to the so-called “healthcare tourism” industry, in which foreigners fly into places like Miami and L.A., get treated at state-of-the-art U.S. hospitals, and leave without paying. And it is also EMTALA that allows poor Americans who are eligible for Medicaid, but who have not bothered to sign up, to walk into U.S. emergency rooms and get treated without paying.

Obamacare doesn’t repeal EMTALA. If we want to stop people from using E.R. docs as their primary care physicians, we need to do away with EMTALA.

Also, as I’ve noted in other posts, Obamacare does not solve the problem of the uninsured. The government admits that, even if Obamacare is fully implemented, there will still be more than 30 million uninsured Americans. And EMTALA will still be in effect. So when it comes to the E.R., nothing will change.

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Best part of all this Barrycare mess? That all Dems are eventually, if not sooner- are going to be eating their own and turning on one another to pass the blame, with the end game landing on Barry and Nasty Nancy’s empty dinner plates. And don’t kid yourself- Nasty Nancy won’t hesitate to take a shot at Barry if there’s no one left.

BettyRuth on November 16, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Kinda hard to get off of the congo line when you’ve been dancing to the Obamacare tune, Kay!!!

yoda on November 16, 2013 at 10:04 AM

There is one electoral problem for Kay I haven’t seen mentioned here. The people who most thought they were going to get free health insurance can’t get it. North Carolina did not expand Medicaid. North Carolina has no State exchange. If you don’t file tax returns you can’t get the Federal subsidy. Thousands of people who do not make enough money to file taxes do not have insurance in NC. They can not get it for free from Medicaid and can not get it from the Federal exchange due to no tax returns.

Hopeless Future on November 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Sorry, but I think 51% at least will believe it. These venal politicians will lie and lie and lie right up until election day, and in many cases they’ll convince 51%

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 9:55 AM

As a whole, I don’t put alot of faith in the electorate either, so I won’t sit back and relax. I’ll be out knocking on doors and doing whatever else I can to get rid of Hagan next year. Wish me luck. :-)

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Hopeless Future on November 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Kagan can win if she manages super turnout in the UNC cities. Damn you Peoples Republic of Chapel Hill.

nobar on November 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 15h

Health Insurance CEOs meeting today with Pres Obama: • Mark Bertolini, President & CEO, Aetna • Bruce (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rrmd2v
=============================================================

Mark Knoller @markknoller

15th November 2013 from TwitLonger
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Health Insurance CEOs meeting today with Pres Obama:
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• Mark Bertolini, President & CEO, Aetna
• Bruce Broussard, CEO, Humana
• Chet Burrell, CEO, CareFirst
• David Cordani, President & CEO, Cigna Healthcare
• Jay M. Gellert, President & CEO, Health Net, Inc.
• Patrick Geraghty, CEO, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida
• Patricia Hemingway Hall, President & CEO, Health Care Services Corporation
• Daniel J. Hilferty, President & CEO, Independence Blue Cross
• Karen Ignagni, President & CEO, America’s Health Insurance Plans
• Dr. J. Mario Molina, President & CEO, Molina Healthcare
• James Roosevelt, Jr., President & CEO, Tufts Health Plan
• Scott Serota, President & CEO, Blue Cross Blue Shield Association
• Joseph R. Swedish, CEO, Wellpoint
• Bernard Tyson, President & CEO, Kaiser Permanente
• J. Bradley Wilson, President and CEO, Blue Cross Blue Shield North Carolina
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rrmd2v

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM

A gathering of liars and thieves trying to figure out — in secret — how they will continue to lie and steal.

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Some spokesperson is going to be looking for a new job before 2014.

Cindy Munford on November 16, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Kay is toast. She won because Obama was at the top of the ticket which drove black turnout. Blacks in NC vote democrat 95-98%. In 2014, Senator is the highest office up for election. She is the big democrat draw in 2014. Voter fraud only works when the results are within 100,000 votes. (Yes, there will be voter fraud in the next election due to the DOJ blocking NC’s voter id law) Dirty tricks are her only hope.

Hopeless Future on November 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM

In the next sentence of the quote, Weiner states that her boss Hagan was aware of the fact that people would lose their healthcare plans under Obamacare some time ago.

“Once insurance companies began disingenuously offering plans that they knew they would be canceling it became clear that more people would be getting cancellation letters,” …………….
I think we can put North Carolina in play as one of the six seats the GOP needs to pick up next year

…like Virginia…the GOPe will be playing with themselves…and screw up everybody
else’s…wet dream!

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2013 at 10:12 AM

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM

I do wish you luck. This whole mess, is kind of scary. I can’t believe the the media is going to let The Won keep sliding like this. I am sure they all have their thinking caps on. It’s a long time until next November.

Cindy Munford on November 16, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Dont worry Senator, Hoisting and petards are covered under ACA

R Square on November 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM

LOL.

Byron York is tweeting every single democrat’s published quote “If you like your plan, you can keep it.” One at a time. With the relevant link.

LOL

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 10:16 AM

“Obamacare” is just the tip of the iceberg with Hagan.

Hagan is a poster child for everything that is wrong with Congress.

Hagan has voted lock-step for the Obama agenda which has economically hurt almost every person in North Carolina. Look at her record.

She is an Obama and Reid supporter first, before the people of her state.

I look forward to months worth of explaining from Kay on why she voted for a whole host of issues that hurt the people who elected her.

Marcus Traianus on November 16, 2013 at 10:18 AM

As a whole, I don’t put alot of faith in the electorate either, so I won’t sit back and relax. I’ll be out knocking on doors and doing whatever else I can to get rid of Hagan next year. Wish me luck. :-)

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM

I do wish you luck! The lies are going to be thick heading into 2014. Hope we can all get through it for enough voters.

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM

A gathering of liars and thieves trying to figure out — in secret — how they will continue to lie and steal.

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Rational Thought:Yup, in backroom deals!:)

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Sucks to be you huh?

Obama to Hagan

workingclass artist on November 16, 2013 at 10:23 AM

I do wish you luck. This whole mess, is kind of scary.

Cindy Munford on November 16, 2013 at 10:13 AM

It’s crazy…but even though I’m caught in the middle of all the mayhem, I’m still enjoying watching O’care fall to pieces.

I do wish you luck! The lies are going to be thick heading into 2014. Hope we can all get through it for enough voters.

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Never say never!

lynncgb on November 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM

You can keep your doctor…If you can find him…

“UnitedHealth drops thousands of doctors from insurance plans: WSJ”

http://news.yahoo.com/unitedhealth-drops-thousands-doctors-insurance-plans-wsj-030014903–finance.html

workingclass artist on November 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Health insurance: if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Galtian on November 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Hagan spokeswoman Sadie Weiner

Do you automatically have to be an effing idiot if your last name is Weiner. Rhetorical.

msupertas on November 16, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Some spokesperson is going to be looking for a new job before 2014.

Cindy Munford on November 16, 2013 at 10:10 AM

…I just looked weiner up in the dictionary!
.
.
DOG
DEMOCRAT

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Rational Thought:Yup, in backroom deals!:)

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 10:22 AM

It’s one of those moments where one has to say: Can you IMAGINE the media response if a corrupt Republican president facing a firestorm of criticism over his dirty back-room deals with a major industry that has left millions of Americans vulnerable suddenly held a secret meeting with those co-conspirators?

The media screaming would be epic. But here? Nothing. He’s gonna pay them off some more with MY money, with YOUR money, and not a word from the media. No one cares.

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Sen. Kay Hagan Blasted By Outraged Parent

Uploaded on Aug 18, 2010
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Furious mother blasts Sen. Kay Hagan over health care when Hagan makes a stop in Kernersville, N.C.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW5PE4OxW0o

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Kay Hagan: The Deciding Vote for Obamacare
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIGI0TEJn0U

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Nifty Map included at the link…

http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2013/what-will-obamacare-cost-you-map.html

Obamacare will increase individual market premiums by an average of 41%.
Forbes reported on this earlier this month:

One of the fundamental flaws of the Affordable Care Act is that, despite its name, it makes health insurance more expensive. Today, the Manhattan Institute released the most comprehensive analysis yet conducted of premiums under Obamacare for people who shop for coverage on their own. Here’s what we learned. In the average state, Obamacare will increase underlying premiums by 41 percent. As we have long expected, the steepest hikes will be imposed on the healthy, the young, and the male. And Obamacare’s taxpayer-funded subsidies will primarily benefit those nearing retirement—people who, unlike the young, have had their whole lives to save for their health-care needs.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/report-o-care-to-increase-individual-market-premiums-by-average-of-41/

workingclass artist on November 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM

http://www.gop.com/news/research/obamas-obamacare-trust-deficit/

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:07 AM

All of these Obamacare supporters looked into their crystal ball and saw that BUS!! LOL

Thanks for the links too.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 10:38 AM

So, if this is a the metaphor Obama has chosen I want to know why he refers to himself as a player and not the coach. I would ask him if as president should HE not be the one calling the plays?

DaveDief on November 16, 2013 at 9:12 AM
Or ask him if he should be benched for fumbling, after all, he always was a bench warmer.

Flange on November 16, 2013 at 9:15 AM

why not go to the GM and ask. less uhs and umms. valerie will be glad to fix all this confusion.

t8stlikchkn on November 16, 2013 at 10:39 AM

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 10:22 AM

It’s one of those moments where one has to say: Can you IMAGINE the media response if a corrupt Republican president facing a firestorm of criticism over his dirty back-room deals with a major industry that has left millions of Americans vulnerable suddenly held a secret meeting with those co-conspirators?

The media screaming would be epic. But here? Nothing. He’s gonna pay them off some more with MY money, with YOUR money, and not a word from the media. No one cares.

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Rational Thought:

I do agree, the Marxist Socialist Media would be orgasmic at those
prospects, if a GOP was in charge!:)

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM

NC Premium rate increases due to ACA aka Obamacare

Males:
age 27 = 168%
age 40 = 133%
age 64 = 185%

Females:
age 27 = 74%
age 40 = 73%
age 64 = 192%

http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2013/what-will-obamacare-cost-you-map.html

workingclass artist on November 16, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Hagan is done. We also need to get rid of Burr in 2016.

Panther on November 16, 2013 at 8:55 AM

I agree. He pretends to be “undecided” and reading whatever comes up for a vote. That’s what I hear when calling his office. But he votes with the Dems anyway.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:07 AM

All of these Obamacare supporters looked into their crystal ball and saw that BUS!! LOL

Thanks for the links too.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 10:38 AM

bluefox:Lol,…the bus, and heres another Linky of ReSources!:)
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canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 10:50 AM

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rrmd2v

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Hmmm… Where is his BFF United Health Care? Oh, that’s right, they are already on board with whatever he does.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 10:51 AM

http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2013/what-will-obamacare-cost-you-map.html

workingclass artist on November 16, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Those rates are obscene! These Insurance Companies need to be raked over the coals for getting in bed with Obama. They are acting like innocent bystanders when they were all on board.

No different than the Democrats that voted for this abomination!

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Hopeless Future on November 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM

My understanding is that if the State doesn’t sign up for the Exchanges, the Feds do. At least that is what I have read.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Rational Thought on November 16, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Saw that hys·ter·i·cal !!!

Cindy Munford on November 16, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Here’s the simple bottom line of the stupidity of Obamacare and essentially all Big Government boondoggles:

The Federal government is so bloated, inefficient, and rigid, that for what this farce has already cost in real dollars, the Federal government could have paid for medical care with private physicians for every single uninsured person in America — vision, dental, mental health, maternity — for the entire period of time since O’Bozoscare was passed, and it would have cost less than the total amount spent during that time by insurance companies, the uninsured, and people whose plans have now been increased, canceled, and/or replaced.

I have no doubt whatsoever that this is true.

Jaibones on November 16, 2013 at 11:01 AM

http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2013/what-will-obamacare-cost-you-map.html

workingclass artist on November 16, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Those rates are obscene! These Insurance Companies need to be raked over the coals for getting in bed with Obama. They are acting like innocent bystanders when they were all on board.

No different than the Democrats that voted for this abomination!

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Well…It was a bad deal all around.

Lie down with dogs…ya get up with fleas.

workingclass artist on November 16, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Wouldn’t it just be delicious if every democrat up for reelection gets thrown under the bus in 2014 because of their support for the president’s “signature” legislation? Doesn’t get much better than that. Talk about a toxic president. He had five years to do something…ANYthing to bring the nation together and make things better and this is what we got. It’s like a huge gift has been HANDED to Republicans and I still have doubts they won’t screw it up.

scalleywag on November 16, 2013 at 11:09 AM

http://www.usgovernmentportal.com/obamacare-miracle-media-learns-bureaucracy-inefficient-g761444603-p5?language=en

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 10:50 AM

This is the problem! We could reduce Federal Employees by 50% and still have an excess. What a waste of taxpayer money.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM

scalleywag on November 16, 2013 at 11:09 AM

We’ve seen that we can’t trust the Establishment Republicans, the RNC or the NRSC. It will be up to the Conservatives to defeat any D’s or R’s that need to lose their seats.

We start with Boehner & McConnell.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Greg Brannon FTW

http://gregbrannon.com/

GOPRanknFile on November 16, 2013 at 11:19 AM

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