Kay Hagan reaches for the panic button

posted at 8:31 am on November 16, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

We mentioned earlier this week how red state Democrat Senator Kay Hagan of North Carolina had watched as a previously slim but solid lead in the polls had evaporated of late. It seems that this was no momentary glitch in the numbers and the situation continues to deteriorate. The slide continued with what could only be described as a disastrous conference call with reporters, eager to pepper her with questions about her role in the development and launch of Obamacare, which even the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank saw as a ship taking on water.

Well, her problem begins with Obamacare, ends with Obamacare and has a whole lot of Obamacare in between.

Hagan hosted a conference call for reporters Tuesday morning to discuss the problems with the health-care law’s rollout, and the Q&A session was so painful that the senator should qualify for trauma coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

Hagan tried reciting some of the standard issue White House talking points to claw her way out of that one, but things only got worse when one of her spokeswomen followed up to try to clean up the mess. (From Big Government and the local paper the News & Record.)

“First, this is nothing more than a political stunt that does nothing to help more people get access to care and highlights the difference between Kay, who is working to fix this law, and her opponents who don’t have any plan to reform our broken health care system,” Hagan spokeswoman Sadie Weiner told the News and Record, a Greensboro, NC newspaper. “In her capacity as a member of the HELP Committee, Senator Hagan was involved with that committee’s markup of the health care reform bill in the summer of 2009.”

In the next sentence of the quote, Weiner states that her boss Hagan was aware of the fact that people would lose their healthcare plans under Obamacare some time ago.

“Once insurance companies began disingenuously offering plans that they knew they would be canceling it became clear that more people would be getting cancellation letters,” Weiner said.

Did you catch that one – two punch in those answers? Not only was her boss, Senator Hagan, an instrumental player in crafting the bill, but she was also aware that insurance companies were going to be cancelling policies as soon as it went into effect. It’s bad enough that the popularity of Obamacare in North Carolina is rapidly approaching that of a raging case of the crabs, but that sort of admission plants her firmly in the series of shifting denials and stories about precisely who knew what when.

If Kay Hagan, one of the busy bees working on the bill, was aware that many people who liked their policy would not, in fact, be able to keep it, how did the President not know? Did she not find it worth mentioning to him? And since the “you can’t keep that” effect is presumably hitting people in her own state, how does she square up not letting the voters in on this little secret before she voted for it? Either way, somebody has some explaining to do, and there is a pack of GOP challengers who are all very interested in that Senate seat who are more than happy to discuss the matter with her in the coming battle. I think we can put North Carolina in play as one of the six seats the GOP needs to pick up next year.


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We mentioned earlier this week how red state Democrat Senator Kay Hagan of North Carolina had watched as a previously slim but solid lead in the polls had evaporated of late.

Since when is 17 points a ‘slim lead’?

Resist We Much on November 16, 2013 at 11:29 AM

GOPRanknFile on November 16, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Thanks. We need a list:-) The http://www.dontfundit.com had a list of seats open and challengers. It may need updated as I haven’t checked it in a couple of weeks.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM

What was so hopelessly “broken” about our health care system?

The fact that 30 million Americans were uninsured? Obamacare does nothing to fix that. The government itself admits that even after Obamacare is fully implemented (if that ever happens), there will still be at least 30 million uninsured Americans, and probably more.

Or was our system “broken” because, before O-Care, 85% of Americans reported being satisfied with the health care plans they had?

Or was our healthcare system “broken” because health care costs were rising? Because again, Obamacare does nothing to fix that — a fact that even die-hard libs like Bob Beckel now admit. Instead, Obamacare adds multiple new layers of bureaucracy and multiple new reporting requirements to our health care system — things that always cause costs to rise.

Our health care system wasn’t perfect before Obamacare, but it certainly wasn’t “broken” either. But it is now. Thanks to idiots like this woman.

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Very nicely said! But I’d like to respectfully remind you that both the CATO Institute and the Kaiser Family Foundation debunked the 30 million people myth – and came to the conclusion that the number was closer to 15 million. Around 4% of the population. These are the people who were either priced out of the insurance market because of preexisting conditions, or made too much money to qualify for Medicaid, but not enough to purchase a quality insurance plan.

Hill60 on November 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Speaking as a North Carolinian, this woman cannot fade into obscurity and OUT of “public service” fast enough.

PJ Emeritus on November 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM

All the Dems knew the cancellations were baked in. They counted on President Golden Tongue being able to slither them past the dillema….with lots of help from their loyal backers in the media. Remember, this was 2010. They were all still true believers. Obama was infallible and could sell anything. They were all drunk on Kool Aid.

So they baked a time bomb into the bill and figured, when the time came, Obama would say: “Look, a squirrel!!!”….and the media would dutifully go trotting off in that direction.

jeanneb on November 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM

As a voter in Nc I didn’t have any plans on voting for Hagen but I did give her one chance to win my vote. I emailed her and told her point blank the only way she would ever get my vote was to stand with Ted Cruz and defund Obamacare. She didn’t. end of story. except instead of just voting against her I know have reason to actively try to get her out of office. Maybe my efforts will turn one no vote into 10′s or 100′s of NO votes. But I’ve made sure to inform all friends and family that Hagen was one of the reasons Obamacare is law.

Oh and Sen Burr is no different. He too will be remembered as having help obamacare become law. and he will get my no cofindence vote come his re-election. this isn’t a dem/rep thing this is a freedom vs control issue. Obamacare is the last straw for big government and its death can’t come quick enough for me.

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 10:50 AM

This is the problem! We could reduce Federal Employees by 50% and still have an excess. What a waste of taxpayer money.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM

bluefox:I do agree, somebody is updating that site daily:)

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 11:39 AM

So they baked a time bomb into the bill and figured, when the time came, Obama would say: “Look, a squirrel!!!”….and the media would dutifully go trotting off in that direction.

jeanneb on November 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM

they should have wondered why Obama made sure the bill didn’t take effect until AFTEr his re-election. If Obama/dems thought it would be soomth sailing they should have had it go into effect in 2011 not 2013…….

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM

I just love the “I didn’t know” excuse from the very people who voted for it and thus whose job it was to know!

MJBrutus on November 16, 2013 at 11:46 AM

This is the problem! We could reduce Federal Employees by 50% and still have an excess. What a waste of taxpayer money.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM

the government is not a business. It isn’t out to make a profit. It doesn’t care about taxpayer money. It doesn’t care about “voters” except on the day of election. It’s sole reason is to gain power for those that control the levers of that power. Thus a politican will never think its better to have one worker when they can have 5 or 10 do the job.

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Thanks. We need a list:-) The http://www.dontfundit.com had a list of seats open and challengers. It may need updated as I haven’t checked it in a couple of weeks.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Agreed.

GOPRanknFile on November 16, 2013 at 12:00 PM

“Once insurance companies began disingenuously offering continued plans that they knew they would be we required canceling in 2014 it became clear that more people would be getting cancellation letters,” Weiner said.

There we go. Wasn’t that hard, was it?

pat on November 16, 2013 at 12:06 PM

What was so hopelessly “broken” about our health care system?

The fact that 30 million Americans were uninsured? Obamacare does nothing to fix that. The government itself admits that even after Obamacare is fully implemented (if that ever happens), there will still be at least 30 million uninsured Americans, and probably more.

Or was our system “broken” because, before O-Care, 85% of Americans reported being satisfied with the health care plans they had?

Or was our healthcare system “broken” because health care costs were rising? Because again, Obamacare does nothing to fix that — a fact that even die-hard libs like Bob Beckel now admit. Instead, Obamacare adds multiple new layers of bureaucracy and multiple new reporting requirements to our health care system — things that always cause costs to rise.

Our health care system wasn’t perfect before Obamacare, but it certainly wasn’t “broken” either. But it is now. Thanks to idiots like this woman.

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Very nicely said! But I’d like to respectfully remind you that both the CATO Institute and the Kaiser Family Foundation debunked the 30 million people myth – and came to the conclusion that the number was closer to 15 million. Around 4% of the population. These are the people who were either priced out of the insurance market because of preexisting conditions, or made too much money to qualify for Medicaid, but not enough to purchase a quality insurance plan.

Hill60 on November 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Depends how you define the problem. The proggies casually throw around the “30 million people” number which is good only if you include illegal aliens.

Obamacare does nothing to address the uninsured illegal aliens, from which flows most of the ‘free-rider’ problem. The only thing that can fix the uninsured illegal alien problem is for them to gtho.

These are the people who were either priced out of the insurance market because of preexisting conditions, or made too much money to qualify for Medicaid, but not enough to purchase a quality insurance plan.

Much more than that; it also includes healthy people of all ages who can afford health insurance but simply don’t want to spend money on something they are very confident they don’t need.

slickwillie2001 on November 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM

the popularity of Obamacare in North Carolina is rapidly approaching that of a raging case of the crabs,

So, does ObamaCare cover the purchase of Blue Star Ointment or not?

oldleprechaun on November 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Thus a politican will never think its better to have one worker when they can have 5 or 10 do the job.

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Oh, so true. That is even seen in local/State Government. How many times have you seen the street crew with 5 standing watching one working? LOL

Nice to see you. O/T, but this was awesome at Sarah’s booksigning in Wisc. The whole town sold out!!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/15/Wisconsin-Town-Sells-Out-of-Sarah-Palin-Books-After-Visit

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Anyone notice ?

ALL of the women dem senators in purple states are paying a huge price for their bobble-headed, naive beyond belief, infatuation with the ‘clean black guy’ with the ‘sharply creased pants’. They full lip-locked onto this guy and on his Marxist ideas for America. Now they are back-tracking and lying thru their teeth.

Payback time in 2014 ladies …

You swallowed it all ladies..when you should have spit…

It’s a beautiful thing ! ;)

BigSven on November 16, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Karl Rove’s statement on FNC about the insurance policy tax was an issue by our school system’s chief financial officer on the ~$500,000 we need to pay to an ObamaCare fund. This he said last Tuesday after a work session with our county council – $96,000 for the county’s healthcare coverage too; 10 billion for this fund:
*******************************************************************
The reinsurance fee, $63 per covered life (employee and dependents) will effect all employer group health plans, fully or self insured. Most employer sponsored plans do not have a pre-existing condition exclusion. Coverage is a condition of employment.

These payments will go into a “fund” to be redistributed to insurance carriers who cover high risk (those with pre existing conditions) on the individual market.

The fee is supposed to be paid annually for three years. The rate for 2015 and 2016 has not been set.

This is just one of a number of factors that will have an impact on our healthcare cost. Nedless to say, we are extremely concerned and are actively looking at all our options.

amr on November 16, 2013 at 12:30 PM

this isn’t a dem/rep thing this is a freedom vs control issue. Obamacare is the last straw for big government and its death can’t come quick enough for me.

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Nicely worded email you sent her. Agree on Burr also, since I’ve contacted his office several times.

I was a little more explicit, Freedom vs Tyranny.

During the 2009 Obamacare discussions, Baucus was the point man on Senate Committees. They had as I recall 3-4 Senate Committees and the Chairs of course were Dems. They are to blame as well.

Some of these R’s are acting similar to the Dems “shock” and they don’t need to be. They were there and knew all of this also.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 12:36 PM

All traitors, directly to Hell.

Burn slowly/painfully or just go poof.

I’ll laugh at all of you, in this order:

Media
Political hacks who fell for a stupid ‘god’, obama

All who brung/kept the disaster upon the land/world.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Sophie, please feature this on your blog. The US media are not bringing it to light.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 12:43 PM

So, does ObamaCare cover the purchase of Blue Star Ointment or not?

oldleprechaun on November 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM

No, it recommends a much simpler method. Shave 1/2 of your pubic area then soak the other side in lighter fluid and set it on fire and stab the little bastiges with an ice pick as they run from the fire.

Oldnuke on November 16, 2013 at 12:46 PM

This is just one of a number of factors that will have an impact on our healthcare cost. Nedless to say, we are extremely concerned and are actively looking at all our options.

amr on November 16, 2013 at 12:30 PM

I had not heard of this fund. I didn’t think this abomination could get any worse. And I include the Employer cancellations when that waiver Obama gave them expires.

I really don’t know what people are going to do, or what they can do.

Congress needs to repeal this and start over and use some sanity.
These patches won’t work and most likely will make things worse.

Hope your area finds a solution.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Oh, so true. That is even seen in local/State Government. How many times have you seen the street crew with 5 standing watching one working? LOL

Nice to see you. O/T, but this was awesome at Sarah’s booksigning in Wisc. The whole town sold out!!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/15/Wisconsin-Town-Sells-Out-of-Sarah-Palin-Books-After-Visit

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 12:20 PM

That’s not fair at all. Of the five standing, one is a greedy union goon, one is a work supervisor, one is a diversity officer, one is an EPA representative, one is an OSHA observer, and one is a local zoning official.

Wait a minute, that adds up to six. You should compliment them for getting by with fewer than mandated!

slickwillie2001 on November 16, 2013 at 12:49 PM

JAZZ,

OT – You all teased the “risk corridor” thing last night but I’m curious if this was the topic of conversation at the meeting the insutance cronies and Obama had.

Does anyone know what scheme they hatched? This might be the way they avert disaster for themselves(and in turn scr*w the country for good). What’s going on with this?

here’s what klien wrote last week http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/07/wonkbook-seven-reasons-obamacare-isnt-facing-a-death-spiral/

3. Risk corridors. Among the least well-known fail-safes in Obamacare are the subsidies to insurers who underprice their insurance. The way this works is that if insurers’ actual costs are more than 3 percent above their “target” costs, the government gives them 50 percent of the difference. If they’re more than 8 percent above their target costs, the government pays 80 percent of the difference. (The program goes in reverse, too: If an insurer overprices their insurance, they have to pay part of the excess to the government.)

BoxHead1 on November 16, 2013 at 12:51 PM

BoxHead1 on November 16, 2013 at 12:51 PM

The land NO longer functions in a free market.

obama is a Fraud dic tator in Chief.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Jazz, please consider featuring this. It needs to be exposed more. Thank you.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Wait a minute, that adds up to six. You should compliment them for getting by with fewer than mandated!

slickwillie2001 on November 16, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Oh, my bad! LOL

Imagine my surprise when I visited Missour year before last and the workers were pouring concrete on an exit ramp. All 4 or 5 were actually working!!! Great Highways and Roads out there. I don’t recall seeing any pot holes!! Another surprise.

In my area they throw some blacktop in a hole and don’t smooth it off. And even then they miss some of the pot holes!!

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 1:01 PM

BoxHead1 on November 16, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Of course that was the subject of the meeting. More fraud upon the American people.

Congress needs replaced since they allow all of this to go on. We the people have no representation any more.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Getting some sunshine and warmer temps. So, off to do yard work!

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 1:08 PM

The Wall Street Journal reports that private insurance provider United Health is dropping thousands of doctors from its Medicare Advantage networks.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/16/thousands-of-doctors-dropped-from-medicare-advantage

Just a reminder United Health Care is one of Obama’s BFF.

http://nypost.com/2013/11/01/obama-donors-firm-hired-to-fix-web-mess-it-helped-make/

http://www.healthinsuranceproviders.com/united-healthcare-health-insurance-company-review/

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Great the NC seat is in play! What good does it do conservatives if the seat is won by another Graham, McCain, or Spector?

chicken thief on November 16, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Of course it would be great to have true conservatives in those seats. But I would rather have anyone in those seats instead of a Democrat.

Even the absolute worst R would be better than the best D.

Hell, I’d vote for a dog over a Dem. At least a dog would be less destructive to the nation.

justltl on November 16, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Even the absolute worst R would be better than the best D.

Hell, I’d vote for a dog over a Dem. At least a dog would be less destructive to the nation.

justltl on November 16, 2013 at 1:24 PM

disagree on every level here. It really doesn’t matter any more unless the person replacing the senator comes from the non-elite. don’t care anymore about “party” id. It’s meaningless. It about the elites and the non-elites at this point. Burr and Hagan are two peas in the pod. Can’t tell a difference between the two.

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 1:07 PM
Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I was very hopeful that the dam was about to burst on the marxists and that nothing could stop it now. I’m worried that they wrote a yearly bailout for the Ins companies that will exchange short term pain for long term destruction via the debt. Most American’s seem incapable(too doped up) of understanding basic economics. Debt means nothing to many of them until they get an account suspended, a car repo’d or a court order. And even those that pay their bills think that Federal dollars are magic and disappear from the books after they are borrowed/printed and spent.

BoxHead1 on November 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM

On top of that, this will destroy competition in the health Ins market and no Ins company will be able to fail. I don’t even know why you need insurance companies if the market prices are fixed and the margin is erased every year through an institutionalised bailout.

BoxHead1 on November 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM

The meme for Democrats and other assorted leftists will be:

“Democrats and Republicans are the same.”

Which is intended to discourage conservatives from voting.

I will crawl naked on my hands and knees through broken glass on a snowy road to vote against any Democrat on any ticket.

Democrats should not occupy any seat at any level of government at any time. Period.

They are so destructive to this country and society in general, that, if I were king, I would ban every single one of them from ever holding office and would in fact use them as foxes for hunting on weekends.

justltl on November 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Regarding ‘you can keep it’, the Lefty Socialists are bound to employ Shillary’s “what difference, at this point, does it make” defense.

Pass the popcorn, please.

socalcon on November 16, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Some of these R’s are acting similar to the Dems “shock” and they don’t need to be. They were there and knew all of this also.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 12:36 PM

those that are acting “shocked” by these are the socialist R’s. they really thought Obamacare would work. those are the ones we need to remove along with the other socialists. thanks for link by the way.

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Around 4% of the population. These are the people who were either priced out of the insurance market because of preexisting conditions, or made too much money to qualify for Medicaid, but not enough to purchase a quality insurance plan.

Hill60 on November 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Only 4%? That’s such a small number! Where have I heard that before?

Vince on November 16, 2013 at 1:41 PM

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I despise what has become of the Republican party in terms of their haplessness in dealing with Democrats and the Media. I hate their impotence. I do not like their drift away from true conservatism.
But I’ll tell you what.
The bottom line is that an R in a congressional seat or on the Supreme Court or in the White House is infinitely less destructive than a D.
I always hope that the primaries produce true conservatives.
But even if that doesn’t happen, I would never not go to vote and would never pull the lever for a Democrat. Not going to vote is falling right into the Democrats hands.

justltl on November 16, 2013 at 1:48 PM

• Dr. J. Mario Molina

canopfor on November 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Heh. Token Latino?

More props in white lab coats, no doubt.

socalcon on November 16, 2013 at 1:49 PM

I fully expect Hagan to get destroyed. It’s interesting though. I’ve called both her office and Burr’s multiple times in the past few years. I would swear the employ the same ignorant and overly arrogant staffers. If NC is lucky we’ll rid ourselves of both these ruling class lightweights.

kpguru on November 16, 2013 at 1:49 PM

I’d like to respectfully remind you that both the CATO Institute and the Kaiser Family Foundation debunked the 30 million people myth – and came to the conclusion that the number was closer to 15 million.

Yes, thank you.

I am aware that the number of “uninsured” in America is a number that has been a matter of much debate. During the run-up to the passage of Obamacare, Obama himself cited different figures on more than one occasion (“30 million uninsured,” “45 million uninsured,” “50 million uninsured”). I am also aware that the number of uninsured is very fluid, and that millions of people are only “uninsured” for a few weeks or months during any given year (because they’re switching jobs, changing plans, etc.).

My point was simply that Obamacare does not even begin to solve the problem of the uninsured — regardless of how many “uninsureds” one believes we have. According to the CBO’s own projections, even after Obamacare is fully implemented (assuming it ever is), there will still be more than 30 million Americans in the U.S. who are uninsured.

AZCoyote on November 16, 2013 at 1:55 PM

So they baked a time bomb into the bill and figured, when the time came, Obama would say: “Look, a squirrel!!!”….and the media would dutifully go trotting off in that direction.

jeanneb on November 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM

they should have wondered why Obama made sure the bill didn’t take effect until AFTEr his re-election. If Obama/dems thought it would be soomth sailing they should have had it go into effect in 2011 not 2013…….

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Don’t entirely trust my recollection, but the dem majority senate, took the text out of a house bill and inserted their Obamacare bill…was the vote on Christmas eve, or something. Those voting to pass it KNEW exactly what was in it.

No one needed to wonder, JugEars was perfectly clear he intended to fundamentally change the US. Protest was sounded immediately- recall the start of the TEA party AND it’s immediate vilification from the socialists, lapdogs, and establishment GOP?

Don’t you dare give the ‘ostriches’ (right, left or middle) a break on this one.

socalcon on November 16, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Look at the initial passage of Obamacare.
Even having a few more squishy Rinos and a few less Democrats would have prevented this debacle.

justltl on November 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM

disagree on every level here. It really doesn’t matter any more unless the person replacing the senator comes from the non-elite. don’t care anymore about “party” id. It’s meaningless. It about the elites and the non-elites at this point. Burr and Hagan are two peas in the pod. Can’t tell a difference between the two.

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Almost completely true. However, voting (D)Umb guarantees the march to progressive fascism at light speed. Voting for a third party/Independent usually goes nowhere just as he/she/it usually does. You could not get me to vote(D)stupid at gunpoint. I never have and never will. Squishy Republicans can be made to see the light, however temporarily, with continued constituent vigilance and Republican majorities that at least lean Conservative.

98ZJUSMC on November 16, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Someone should post on Kos or the New York Times that they shouldn’t vote on the principle that Dems and Republicans are the same.
Be sure to tell them that that applies to their dead, fraudulent and illegal voters also.

justltl on November 16, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Since when is 17 points a ‘slim lead’?

Resist We Much on November 16, 2013 at 11:29 AM

when you are trying to minamize the damage.

conservative tarheel on November 16, 2013 at 2:54 PM

All the Dems knew the cancellations were baked in. They counted on President Golden Tongue being able to slither them past the dillema….with lots of help from their loyal backers in the media. Remember, this was 2010. They were all still true believers. Obama was infallible and could sell anything. They were all drunk on Kool Aid.

So they baked a time bomb into the bill and figured, when the time came, Obama would say: “Look, a squirrel!!!”….and the media would dutifully go trotting off in that direction.

jeanneb on November 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Which is why we cannot thank Ted Cruz/Mike Lee enough – they made enough noise that people paid attention and no amount of propaganda was going to keep enough people from checking it out on their own.

kim roy on November 16, 2013 at 3:04 PM

On top of that, this will destroy competition in the health Ins market and no Ins company will be able to fail. I don’t even know why you need insurance companies if the market prices are fixed and the margin is erased every year through an institutionalised bailout.

BoxHead1 on November 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM

That sounds suspiciously like single payer/gov run healthcare. :)

Something to remain vigilant against.

kim roy on November 16, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Some comments from other blogs

The so called informed young adults voted for this Kenyan con man. One woman stated Obama should have done more research, really, what research did she do when she voted for the MFer.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 3:28 PM

slickwillie2001 on November 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM

If you read the original links that I provided – you’ll see that the groups you’re mentioning had been removed from the equation. The CATO Institute and Kaiser Family Foundation had actually boiled the numbers down to around 15 million people – not the 35, 40 or 50 million that the administration was citing.

I say this only because we need to remember that their entire premise was false to begin with – the number of uninsured was nowhere near what they were claiming. We need to ask if the total destruction of our existing health care plan was necessary in order to find a way to insure around 4% of the population. I think we’d all agree the answer is a resounding “no”.

Hill60 on November 16, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Never forget this and never let them forget it!

Oldnuke on November 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Maher reads my comments :)

“You’re doing a heck of a job brownie” — GWB

Toward the end

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Oldnuke, and this

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 4:11 PM

And this

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Some one (Soros?) is running pro Hagan TV ads in the Wilmington market. You can smell the flop sweat.

tmitsss on November 16, 2013 at 4:14 PM

This is hilarious and Judy’s pain is extremely schadenfreudig.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Oh. And deserving of its own thread. Per the NYT.
King Barry never bothered to you know. Actually check with insurance companies about reversing cancellations. BEFORE. His royal decree. What an arrogant POS!

Minnfidel on November 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM

So, if you get your health plan back, your might not get your doctor back. And this time next year, right in time for midterm elections, you’ll get another cancellation notice and will have to spend perhaps several more times on a health care policy being forced upon you that you would not choose otherwise.

Oh, and the crap Obamacare policy with coverage you don’t need will be even more expensive next year because the 2014 risk pool included mostly the very sick and those who are poor, driving up the prices even higher.

Deja vu all over again. Priceless.

Philly on November 16, 2013 at 4:31 PM

unless the person replacing the senator comes from the non-elite. don’t care anymore about “party” id. It’s meaningless. It about the elites and the non-elites at this point. Burr and Hagan are two peas in the pod. Can’t tell a difference between the two.

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM

…its good to see that name…again!

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2013 at 4:42 PM

David Brookes is surprised. So are other idiots.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 4:43 PM

And this time next year, right in time for midterm elections, you’ll get another cancellation notice and will have to spend perhaps several more times on a health care policy being forced upon you that you would not choose otherwise.

Philly on November 16, 2013 at 4:31 PM

This time next year will be post-election – and I’m *very* sure the insurance companies will be under extreme pressure from DC to *not* let that kind of thing happen *pre*-election.

Midas on November 16, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Waiting for the socons to run a “Flat Earther” and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Bandit13 on November 16, 2013 at 5:49 PM

This time next year will be post-election – and I’m *very* sure the insurance companies will be under extreme pressure from DC to *not* let that kind of thing happen *pre*-election.

Midas on November 16, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Exactly. The administration will strong arm the insurance companies not to do anything about Obamacare until late November.

Happy Nomad on November 16, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Kay Hagan believes in GOD gosh DARN IT!!! Don’t question her motives!

SouthernGent on November 16, 2013 at 6:37 PM

I think we can put North Carolina in play as one of the six seats the GOP needs to pick up next year.

Measuring the drapes already aren’t we Jazz? Wasn’t this done in Indiana and Missouri last year?

loveofcountry on November 16, 2013 at 6:42 PM

As her own spokesperson said, she specifically crafted ACA so that millions of policies would be canceled. The majority of these policies were created before Obama was even elected.

Do you think she then “forgot” to tell Obama?

With millions of policies canceled, most people (they hoped)would be forced into Obamacare.

The North Carolina voter got rid of Senator Dole in favor of Hagan. How’s that all working out for y’all?

rpupton on November 16, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Yep, Kay Hagan. You built that

skeeterbite on November 16, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Insurance companies start enrollment for group policies in October (and for individuals in October if their plans change), and companies will have to let their employees know by mid- to late October what their plans will be or if they will be dumped into the exchanges. Obamacare enrollment will begin in October again too, for 2015.

Unfortunately for the government, the sham is up and people know what’s coming. And some will still be dumb enough to vote Democrat.

Dem candidates will outdo themselves on telling giant whopper lies this year…if they come out of hiding.

Philly on November 16, 2013 at 8:31 PM

BoxHead1 on November 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM

As bad as this Obamacare website launch is and the “plan” itself, I think many people that didn’t pay attention are wide awake now. This is an issue that effects every American, not just a particular faction. Hopefully, they thru this debacle will see other issues also. This was caused not by just Obama, but the Democrats in Congress. I am hoping all voters will take a serious look at the person they are voting for.

This short term “fix” is not going to take the issue away. It will still be there. Hopefully, people will see that the Health Care Insurance Companies were part of it. They could have said no.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 8:46 PM

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 12:36 PM

those that are acting “shocked” by these are the socialist R’s. they really thought Obamacare would work. those are the ones we need to remove along with the other socialists. thanks for link by the way.

unseen on November 16, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Totally agree. They have the same goals as the Dems/Administration.

We know who they are because they are known “by their fruits” (voting records/statements)

YW on the link:-) I’ve added her book on my Wish list:-)

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM

VIDEO: Students at historically black college complain Obamacare left them uninsured…

Dooped duuufffuses get dooped

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Wake up time!! I’m sure this is not the only College dropping student coverage.

The email the students received suggested being covered on their parents policies. Parents will love that, more $$$$.

bluefox on November 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM

My State (NC) can be terribly schizophrenic. Obama carried NC in 2008. In 2012, we elect a Republican Governor (OK, he’s a moddy, but still), keep the Republican House, and win the Senate. All three branches go Republican for the first time since reconstruction. BUT OBAMA NARROWLY LOST BY 2%.

In NC, Hagen will be doomed if the Tea Party gets behind a solid conservative.

Yes. The Tea Party. Still a force to be reckoned with!

BigAlSouth on November 17, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Clearly this is the Big Insurance companies’ & White CEO’s faults.
The Federal Govt needs to step in & stop profiteering off of the backs of sick people.
These greedy profiteers should be providing insurance & health care for free.
IT’s what Jesus would do.

Badger40 on November 17, 2013 at 9:04 AM

VIDEO: Students at historically black college complain Obamacare left them uninsured…

SparkPlug on November 16, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Slightly O/T but this phrase “historically black” is interesting: it’s a “blacks-only” college, right? Is Yale or Harvard “historically white”?

A liberal contortion of english to obscure their obvious racism.

virgo on November 17, 2013 at 9:39 AM

A fellow gets tired of the Media’s efforts to slip in lies as accepted truth. The pre-Obamacare health care system was pretty darned good in the United States. Poll after poll showed something like 85% of the American people happy with their health coverage. Name me one other effing thing that gets 85% approval in this country. Almost all of the 30 million or so people who did not have coverage did not have it because they believed that they did not need it or want it. Hey, that’s what is known as free choice — you know, what the Founding Fathers called “Liberty.” Free choice means that some people will make choices that (gasp) the Government does not agree with.

Our health care system in 2008 was fine. Now it is broken.

Rogervzv on November 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Yes. The Tea Party. Still a force to be reckoned with!

BigAlSouth on November 17, 2013 at 8:50 AM

I’d like to re-phrase that to:

“The Tea Party. A reckoning to be forced on the leadership.”

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on November 17, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Kay Hagan believes in GOD gosh DARN IT!!! Don’t question her motives!

SouthernGent on November 16, 2013 at 6:37 PM

So does Satan, but that doesn’t mean he’s accepted Jesus as savior and clings to God’s Word.

dominigan on November 18, 2013 at 8:55 AM

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