About that voter suppression

posted at 11:31 am on November 16, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

If there’s one thing we’ve learned from the progressive moment’s push against voter ID laws, it’s that the rules in question have only one purpose… to suppress the vote and make it harder for people to make it to the polls. Despite the fairly obvious arguments from supporters who claim that they’d like to know if the people voting are actually who they say they are, activists – with the help of compliant judges – have been fairly successful in getting such laws shot down even when the voters approve them. Not so in Texas, however, where a few laws of this sort are now on the books. With that in mind, it should be short work to find out just how many millions of voters were robbed of their constitutional rights and kept away from the voting booth by evil conservatives, right? Writing at CNN earlier this week, PJ Media’s Bryan Preston stacks up the numbers.

According to the Texas secretary of state’s office, 10 amendments were up for vote in 2011, the last constitutional amendment election before the voter ID law passed. Some issues received more votes than others. The one most voted on received 690,052 votes, for and against. Overall, an average of about 672,874 Texans voted on these 10 constitutional amendments.

If voter ID suppressed votes, we should see a drop in turnout, right? Well, according to the Texas secretary of state’s office, nine amendments went up for vote in 2013. The amendment that attracted the most votes, Proposition One, attracted 1,144,844. The average number of votes cast in 2013 was 1,099,670.

So, in terms of raw votes, turnout in 2013 increased by about 63% over turnout in 2011 in comparable elections.

Beyond the state-wide numbers, Preston looks at some of the key districts where the alleged voter suppression should have had the biggest impact. These include Hidalgo County, on the Texas-Mexico border, which is listed as being 90% Hispanic by demographics. . The difference there between the 2011 and 2013 elections revealed a jump from roughly 4,000 votes in the constitutional amendment election to 16,000. Cameron County (85% Hispanic) also saw an increase in turnout from the 2011 to the 2013 elections.

As Preston says, if the intent of Texas Republicans was to hold down the vote, they are failing in spectacular fashion. In reality, the one factor which holds down the vote in this country is nothing more or less than voter apathy and lack of information / interest. If you want to fix a problem, you first must identify what the wrong is that you’re seeking to right. Low voter education and turnout is a problem which needs to be addressed, but trying to blame a well regulated system of ensuring proper, legal voter registration and identification at the polls is clearly not part of the solution.


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Hey, that’s a picture of my dog, Rowdi. I don’t remember what year it was or how she voted.

frankj on November 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM

It must gall the progs that they’re not allowed to just come out and say that voter ID will cut into the fraudulent voting operations that they’ve invested billions in building.

SoRight on November 16, 2013 at 11:36 AM

HA. HA.

ladyingray on November 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Huh?

I need more coffee.

aryeung on November 16, 2013 at 11:43 AM

I’m still waiting for someone with standing to challenge gun-buyer ID requirements, using the same ‘repression of minority rights’ argument. The DOJ’s contortions in defense would be a wonder to behold.

PersonFromPorlock on November 16, 2013 at 11:45 AM

My uncle Henry was a staunch conservative and voted republic up until the day he died.

After that he’s voted straight democrat.

acyl72 on November 16, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Somehow I doubt this thread will be Troll-Free.

Del Dolemonte on November 16, 2013 at 11:53 AM

The Obama Administration gave money to Kenya(of all places) for their elections that included a mandate for voters to have an official ID.

We should be protection our system and what a small price to pay for the integrity of our elections.

Screw these liars and hypocrites.

CWchangedhisNicagain on November 16, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Without massive voting fraud Obama would not be president, and the Democratics would not hold the Senate.

Democratics fight to preserve their status quo where dead people vote by the thousands, illegal aliens by the millions, and Democratic activists vote multiple times across county, city and state lines.

The reason Democratics fight for early voting periods is because it allows them to drive to multiple locations to vote.

slickwillie2001 on November 16, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Somehow I doubt this thread will be Troll-Free.

Del Dolemonte on November 16, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Actually it seems like all the trolls latelya re busy at work rewriting the code for Healtcare.gov. But no worries, they’ll be back here as soon as that’s done. End of November. 2024.

SoRight on November 16, 2013 at 11:59 AM

I would think that letting people feel assured that their vote DOES count and won’t be nullified by fraud is a good way to increase voter participation.

Socratease on November 16, 2013 at 12:00 PM

no voter suppression in NH..other than the suppressed votes of the actual residents!

declare yourself a “resident” on monday, vote on tuesday, go back to your home state tuesday night!

Biden’s niece did it, as did all of the OFA staffers.

warhorse_03826 on November 16, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Somehow I doubt this thread will be Troll-Free.

Del Dolemonte on November 16, 2013 at 11:53 AM

I hope they show up, then we can also talk about Indiana and the heavily minority city of Indianapolis and all the rampant non-suppression there as a result of Voter I’D.

M240H on November 16, 2013 at 12:09 PM

The numbers here are slightly misleading, because in the year after a presidential election, as with New York, you have a mayoral election in Texas’ biggest city, Houston, that boosts voter turnout over the 2011 election cycle on constitutional amendments.

But if Preston had used the 2009 numbers — which also included the Houston mayoral vote boost — his point still would have stood. The largest combined vote total for any amendment in 2009, before the voter ID law, was 1,058,986. Not as big a gap, but still below the 1,144,844 total which was the max any amendment got in votes in 2013. If there was any actual voter suppression, you’d expect the 2013 total to be below the 2009 mark.

jon1979 on November 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Somehow I doubt this thread will be Troll-Free.

Del Dolemonte on November 16, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Actually it seems like all the trolls latelya re busy at work rewriting the code for Healtcare.gov. But no worries, they’ll be back here as soon as that’s done. End of November. 2024.

SoRight on November 16, 2013 at 11:59 AM

More likely working as navigators. From the Veritas videos, I see a match in skill and honesty levels.

slickwillie2001 on November 16, 2013 at 12:15 PM

I was always amazed by the left’s assertion that thugs with batons posted in front of a polling place were harmless, but voter ID laws kept people away from the polls.

landlines on November 16, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Jazz,
The term “Voter Suppression” is just code wording for the media inspired desire to keep RACISM alive! ,and so as to have a key tenet of the lefty Democrat platform. Without racism, they can’t rally thier troops as effectively.
And so we get, Travon.
.
The only real voter suppression in this country can be found with the Black Panthers in Philly – and in the trunk of some Democrat Poll workers car in Minnesota.

FlaMurph on November 16, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Hey, that’s a picture of my dog, Rowdi. I don’t remember what year it was or how she voted.

frankj on November 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM

OT: I’ve got a pup (4 mos. old) named Rowdy. Half Pit Bull – half Mastiff/Redbone.

Solaratov on November 16, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Here’s a pretty funny article from Mother Jones -which seems to be Mad Magazine just.for Libtards- detailing the horrors of complying with voter ID requirements. The best is the sack that couldn’t understand the problem with his North Dakota driver’s license … in Texas.

M240H on November 16, 2013 at 12:26 PM

I was always amazed by the left’s assertion that thugs with batons posted in front of a polling place were harmless, but voter ID laws kept people away from the polls.

landlines on November 16, 2013 at 12:20 PM

I like the complaints about laws that reject student IDs, when the student ID has no picture. (I find it astounding that colleges don’t issue student IDs with pictures these days, when my undergrad and two post-grad schools issued them…as long as 35 years ago.) But I think any student voting on campus and voting from a parents’ address should be prosecuted and imprisoned. It’s the height of dishonesty. As far as I’m concerned, win fair and square or be hanged.

BuckeyeSam on November 16, 2013 at 12:32 PM

“VICIOUS” PIT BULL photos

Liberal trolls soiling themselves as they compose their complaints

Solaratov on November 16, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Your ROWDY is going to be a huge 120 pounder+…if a male..
and will be the best friend you ever had !!

BigSven on November 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM

OT – your most transparent oaf in chief, and his horese’s azz, Kerry, in action, transparently, of course.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 12:45 PM

As any Democrat will tell you; VOTE EARLY AND VOTE OFTEN!

GarandFan on November 16, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Works here in GA as well……..

ultracon on November 16, 2013 at 12:54 PM

If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 60 years ago, a liberal 30 years ago and a racist today.

- Dr. Thomas Sowell

h/t kingsjester

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2013 at 12:54 PM

obviously Jazz and Bryan Preston are RAAAAACIST for even talking about voter ID. *sigh*

simkeith on November 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Hey, that’s a picture of my dog, Rowdi. I don’t remember what year it was or how she voted.

frankj on November 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Rowdi didn’t necessarily vote in person. He could have voted by mail-in ballot, collected at a local ACORN office. Perhaps in the last hour of open voting on election day, a helpful Democratic in a precinct with no Republican observers, they looked through the rolls for anyone that had not voted yet, and voted for them!

Rowdi may have also voted in neighboring precincts, on a provisional basis, claiming they moved recently.

Perhaps all of the above. Rowdi may have actually voted more times than you did.

slickwillie2001 on November 16, 2013 at 1:17 PM

And so dies another false progressive-fascist meme.

The only reason they oppose Voter ID is that Voter ID makes it far more difficult to perpetrate voter fraud. The objections have nothing to do about ‘rights’ or ‘racism’ and everything about facilitating voter fraud.

Athos on November 16, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Suck it OFA!

God Bless Texas!

workingclass artist on November 16, 2013 at 2:22 PM

If voter ID suppressed votes, we should see a drop in turnout, right? Well, according to the Texas secretary of state’s office, nine amendments went up for vote in 2013. The amendment that attracted the most votes, Proposition One, attracted 1,144,844. The average number of votes cast in 2013 was 1,099,670.

Clearly a whole bunch more racists have moved to Texas in the past two years. /

Lost in Jersey on November 16, 2013 at 2:26 PM

So what Liberals will take away from this is that facts, figures and statistics are racist.

ghostwalker1 on November 16, 2013 at 2:32 PM

The Lying Sack of America and his Justice Department-along with a gaggle of Congressional Democrat buffoons- are on the wrong side again. Do they ever get anything right or is it always blind ideology?

Mason on November 16, 2013 at 2:34 PM

There is this 12-year-old in North Carolina whose parents are putting her up to calling out Gov McCrory on the new rules disallowing pre-registration of 16 and 17-year-olds.

I would counter that a 16 or 17-year-old is not likely to be living where they will be living the NOVEMBER after they turn 18. November is well into the academic year following high school graduation, long after enlistees are through boot camp, and only a minority of 18-year-olds stay home in this time in their lives. One is more likely to be up on local issues in the place they will be living, come August/September of the year they turn 18, than in their hometown.

What the NC Dems want is to convince enough of the pre-registered to apply for absentee ballots in their hometowns, on top of voting in their current residence.

Sekhmet on November 16, 2013 at 3:29 PM

…everybody…but the politburo press…and the mindless drones…know who steal elections…carry on!

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2013 at 4:27 PM

There is this 12-year-old in North Carolina whose parents are putting her up to calling out Gov McCrory on the new rules disallowing pre-registration of 16 and 17-year-olds.

I would counter that a 16 or 17-year-old is not likely to be living where they will be living the NOVEMBER after they turn 18. November is well into the academic year following high school graduation, long after enlistees are through boot camp, and only a minority of 18-year-olds stay home in this time in their lives. One is more likely to be up on local issues in the place they will be living, come August/September of the year they turn 18, than in their hometown.

What the NC Dems want is to convince enough of the pre-registered to apply for absentee ballots in their hometowns, on top of voting in their current residence.

Sekhmet on November 16, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Democratics depend on multiple registrations to get elected. Anything less is voter suppression!

slickwillie2001 on November 16, 2013 at 4:36 PM

The liberals would complain if they hung themselves with abrand new rope. It’s amazing that the complain about voter rights, while they themselves suppress the voters God given rights.

savage24 on November 16, 2013 at 5:35 PM

In the liberal mind, providing an ID for voting is a bridge too far to cross, but spending hours on a website to get your gubmint health care isn’t.

AltTuning on November 16, 2013 at 6:05 PM

In Maryland, of course, no ID. I always show my driver’s license just to hear the poll worker say “we don’t need that” or “we’re not allowed to take that” and to give me a chance to say, “you should.”

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on November 16, 2013 at 6:15 PM

There is this 12-year-old in North Carolina whose parents are putting her up to calling out Gov McCrory on the new rules disallowing pre-registration of 16 and 17-year-olds.

I would counter that a 16 or 17-year-old is not likely to be living where they will be living the NOVEMBER after they turn 18.

Sekhmet on November 16, 2013 at 3:29 PM

I would counter that no 18 year old would want to have the license type for “under 18″ one day longer than they have to. Just like they upgrade to the “21 and over” version as soon as they can.

LoganSix on November 16, 2013 at 7:23 PM

If you want to fix a problem, you first must identify what the wrong is that you’re seeking to right.

The first part of this sentence is the qualifier that puts the lie to most progressive policies. After all, why fix a problem when you can use federal dependence for the double purpose of merely mitigating the problem and locking in more votes for your party?

The second part of this sentence illustrates why ACA was doomed from the start. The key problem of the American health care system – cost – is the one thing not addressed at all by the bill. They claimed it as an ancillary effect but that is proving to be utterly false as well.

The Schaef on November 18, 2013 at 8:48 AM