Three political reasons led to Obama’s capitulation yesterday

posted at 10:01 am on November 15, 2013 by Bruce McQuain

Three primarily political reasons drove the Obama concession yesterday to allow insurance companies to continue to cover customers whose plans don’t meet ObamaCare standards. And none really had anything to do with doing what was right for the citizenry.  He wasn’t really doing anyone any favors except Democrats.  He was, as usual, focused solely on limiting political damage.

One reason that drove the concession was the usual – an attempt to start shifting the blame.  As Megan McArdle points out:

This may be a near-perfect specimen of that Washington perennial: the nonsolution solution. Insurers are already warning that they can’t simply allow people to stay on their old plans, firstly because all plans have to be approved by state insurers who haven’t signed onto this, and secondly because getting their computer systems to reissue the canceled policies is a hefty programming task that may not be possible to complete by the end of the year. But that’s not the administration’s problem, is it? They can say, “Hey, we changed the rule — if your insurer went ahead and canceled your policy anyway, that’s not our fault!”

Blame shifting is as natural to this administration as breathing is to the rest of us.  While they take more heat, they can now pass some of it off to insurers who were simply following the law as the Democrats and the administration had written it.  Now they’re the bad guys. As you might imagine, the insurance industry is furious.  And insurance regulators?  Well, they’re left wondering what is what.

Reason number two for the concession was Congressional Democrat panic.  Karl Rove has some thoughts on that:

Mr. Obama’s assertion in the NBC interview that “the majority of folks” whose coverage is canceled will “be able to get better care at the same cost or cheaper” is also likely to be false. The higher premiums that result from ObamaCare’s bells-and-whistles coverage mandates may be offset for some by subsidies, but most people will pay more.

This problem will get worse and poses a dilemma for Mr. Obama and Democrats. A March analysis by Healthpocket.com estimated that less than 2% of individual plans comply with ObamaCare’s mandates. A Nov. 7 study by McClatchy Newspapers suggests as many as 52 million people, including many covered by their employers, could lose their plan.

As the 2014 election approaches, these people will be (a) losing coverage or have lost it already, (b) shopping for new policies, (c) suffering sticker shock over higher premiums and deductibles and (d) wondering why Mr. Obama called their previous policy with doctors they liked “subpar.” Then, next September and October, they’ll be told about premium increases for 2015.

Democrats know this, and that is why they’re pushing so hard for a delay in these cancellations.  They’re really not so much interested in a “fix” as they are in enough time to avoid the consequences of the law in 2014.  So they’re very willing to grab this totally short-term political “solution” by kicking the can down the road in order to weather the 2014 midterms.  By the time this rears its ugly head again in full, they’re hoping the elections will be over.

Again, this isn’t about people losing coverage.  This is about Democrats losing office.

And finally the third reason was a real need to get out in front of the Upton bill in the House.  Kimberley Strassel covers that:

The primary purpose of the White House “fix” was to get out ahead of the planned Friday vote on Michigan Republican Fred Upton’s “Keep Your Health Plan Act.” The stage was set for dozens of Democrats to join with the GOP for passage—potentially creating a veto-proof majority, and putting enormous pressure on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to follow suit.

The White House couldn’t risk such a bipartisan rebuke. Moreover, the Upton bill—while it lacks those GOP joy words of “delay” or “repeal”—poses a threat, since it would allow insurers to continue providing non-ObamaCare policies to any American who wants one. Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu‘s version of the bill would in fact (unconstitutionally) order insurers to offer the plans in perpetuity. Both bills undermine the law’s central goal of forcing healthy people into costly ObamaCare exchange plans that subsidize the sick.

The president’s “fix” is designed to limit such grandfathering, but that’s why it is of dubious political help to Democrats. Within minutes of Mr. Obama’s announcement, several Democratic senators, including North Carolina’s Kay Hagan —whose poll numbers have plummeted in advance of her 2014 re-election bid—announced that they remain in favor of Landrieu-style legislation.

But it’s not going to happen.  Obama has already said he’d veto the Upton legislation.  There’s a message there for Mary Landrieu as well.

This was all about Barack Obama, as usual.  It is a result of raw political calculation – his only seeming area of competence.  He’s now managed a political solution which serves him  about as well as any solution can in the mess he and his administration have made of this atrocious law.  He’s found someone else to shift the blame too, he’s quieted Democrats, at least for the moment and he’s politically pre-empted a GOP move that would have seriously damaged his signature legislation and dumped his leadership and credibility ratings even lower.

For him, this is about as good as it gets.

~McQ


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You got to pass it to find out what’s in it…….
and he can’t read

WryTrvllr on November 15, 2013 at 10:05 AM

It is a result of raw political calculation – his only seeming area of competence.

I think this area of competence isn’t handled by him. And this time it’s going to come to a very bad end.

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Never did see his SAT verbal, did ya?

WryTrvllr on November 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Obama and his Millennium Falcon..
“It’s not my fault….it’s not my fault!”

Electrongod on November 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM

That was no capitulation. That was some flailing.

trigon on November 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Never did see his SAT verbal, did ya?

WryTrvllr on November 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM

It was waived. He was on a foreign student scholarship. Exceptions were made.

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM

It’s always about 0bama! He has been made so insulated by his sycophants in the WH that he just doesn’t get it. Wonder where michelle is? She seems to be hiding out. Wonder if we’re paying for it.

Bambi on November 15, 2013 at 10:09 AM

You left out a fourth reason Bruce…Obviously, democrats…especially Bill Clinton…hate Obama because he’s black.

dirtseller on November 15, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Obozo hasn’t realized yet, but most democrats have, is the Barry no longer has any power. He is now the lamest of ducks and lame ducks make good scapegoats.

Flange on November 15, 2013 at 10:10 AM

No one is talking about why ObamaCare is so expensive…

albill on November 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

You left out a fourth reason Bruce…Obviously, democrats…especially Bill Clinton…hate Obama because he’s black.

dirtseller on November 15, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Can you imagine what Teddy Kennedy and Robert Byrd would be saying about this guy if they were alive?

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

No one is talking about why ObamaCare is so expensive…

albill on November 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

They can’t hide it much longer.

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:12 AM

“On Thursday, President Obama conducted the “Springtime for Hitler” of press conferences. He came out at noon and proceeded to blather his way through an hour of self-justifications and evasions and apologies and complaints.

And as he went on, you could almost see America reacting as the audience in “The Producers” did to the happy-talk number about Adolf romping at his retreat in Berchtesgaden — with gaped-mouth astonishment.

First, he said he had not been “informed directly that the Web site would not be working.” What on earth does that mean? Was he somehow informed indirectly? In an affronted tone, the president said he wouldn’t have been so stupid as to have promised a great Web site if he’d known it was lousy.

Which makes you wonder: Did he ask?

Oh, and how about that now-infamous lie The New York Times hilariously dubbed an “incorrect promise” the other day? Here the president squirmed: “With respect to the pledge I made that ‘If you like your plan, you can keep it,’ I think — you know, and I’ve said in interviews — that there is no doubt that the way I put that forward unequivocally ended up not being accurate.”

So he wouldn’t say he lied, which is understandable. He did say — three times — that the ball was “fumbled,” and that he’s been doing some “Monday-morning quarterbacking” on himself.

The only problem is that if he gets benched, Joe Biden has to come in from the sidelines, and nobody wants that.

But look, he went on to say, this Web-site thing isn’t easy! See, it has programs and things in it. “The Web site itself is doing a lot of stuff,” he explained, because, you know, other Web sites don’t do a lot of stuff. “There’s just a — a bunch of pieces to it that made it challenging.”

Yes, so challenging, they spent 1,100 days and $600 million on it, and it still couldn’t serve more than six people at a time!

Your average porn star has a Web site more functional than that. She’d have to, you see, because she’s in the private market and is out of business if her site goes down.

And you know what else is hard? “What we’re also discovering,” said the man who has completely overhauled the insurance industry, “is that insurance is complicated to buy.” That this might have come as a surprise to him is mind-boggling.

“And another mistake that we made, I think, was underestimating the difficulties of people purchasing insurance online and shopping for a lot of options with a lot of costs and lot of different benefits and plans.” Really? People do that with airline tickets every day. The only difference there is that those Web sites work.

The president then ruminated on this point: “Since I know that the federal government has not been good at this stuff in the past, two years ago, as we were thinking about this, you know, we might have done more to make sure that we were breaking the mold on how we were going to be setting this up.”

Good thinking. Because, you know, when you’re taking effective control of one-sixth of the economy, you might consider the fact that you might have to pay attention.

He talked and talked and talked, and his garrulous incoherence was deeply painful to watch. The only comparable squirm-inducing moment I can remember in politics came in 2011 when Texas Gov. Rick Perry went silent for 53 seconds during a Republican presidential debate trying to think of the name of a government agency . . . and then said, “Oops.”

Rick Perry, we now know, was doped up on pain meds for a bad back. What’s Obama’s excuse?

He has none. You’re only as good as your material, they say in showbiz, and Obama’s material is his health-care plan.

And if his press conference was like “Springtime for Hitler,” ObamaCare is the “Heaven’s Gate” of big-government programs — the one that’s such a flop, it calls into question any and every potential project remotely like it.

OK, I’ll stop now before I mention “Gigli.”

http://nypost.com/2013/11/15/backpedaling-bam-is-fumbling-and-bumbling/

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM

The guy is incapable of taking responsibility, even when he attempts to he ends up blaming someone else. Given that the ACA is such a train wreck and is making him look this bad you would think someone, a high profile someone, would have been fired by now.

major dad on November 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM

He’s losing it.

gophergirl on November 15, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Reid will give both Upton’s and Landrieu’s proposals a floor vote, as soon as he’s ensured of having enough votes to kill them. He knows that Miss Piggy and the other endangered Senate D’s need to record a vote in favor of keep-your-plan and that Obama’s executive order quite simply does not help them at all.

TXUS on November 15, 2013 at 10:19 AM

It would be a good day for some Presidential Golf.

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:20 AM

The only problem is that if he gets benched, Joe Biden has to come in from the sidelines, and nobody wants that.

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I do. Joe the boob running the show, unchecked in a disgraced administration, would be comedy gold and set the progressives back a 100 years.

Flange on November 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM

You missed one of the key reasons for this “Obama fix”.

The WH got word from HHS that the Healthcare.gov website will NOT be up and ready by November 30. That would have been a major failing for the HHS one more time. It would also put in jeopardy all 5 million people who had healthcare cancellations because they would not be able to find a plan by Dec 15 (just two weeks) for it to be effective on January 1, 2014 to keep them covered.

All those who are ill and under care would be “out’ without insurance. Now the WH can simply claim that “its a problem for insurance companies to solve and has nothing to do with the ACA because we said you could keep your plan!

tehehehe on November 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM

I was reading today that in Oklahoma, we have not had a big problem with cancelled policies, because the state’s largest insurers and the state Insurance Department worked out a deal allowing a grace period plan that protects Oklahomans from disrupted coverage. If consumers renew policies early — by Dec. 1 instead of Jan. 1 — they can keep their same plans through December 2014, even if their coverage doesn’t meet the new requirements mandated by the Affordable Care Act. Of course, Oklahoma’s individual insurance market is relatively small, only about 110,000. I wondered why more states did not do something similar.

I guess the states who supported Obamacare would not have wanted to delay the cancellations, they need to push people out of the old policies and into the new Obamacare policies to make the system work, right? So Obama has now essentially pushed the burden of making his plan “succeed” to the state insurance regulators, although personally I think it is doomed to failure no matter what happens.

mbs on November 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM

I believe Flange is on to something. Watch the dems pig pile on Obama as 2014 approaches.

The GOP needs to get on the bull horn and let the other 95% know this is coming to their plans next. Those increases will be published in a few short months. Large companies are about to have to make decisions.

DanMan on November 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Perfect analogies!

TXUS on November 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Crisis… Rahm, etc…

Nothing much changed, however, and the gap kept growing between the second-class Cabinet and the powerful White House policy “czars,” who had free rein to concoct plans and present them to the president directly.

I’m not ready to gloat, yet. I don’t trust anything coming out of Obama or the White House. A second shoe is going to fall.

Not to mention the useless useful idiot Republicans ready to grant amnesty…

Fallon on November 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM

No one is talking about why ObamaCare is so expensive…

albill on November 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

It’s because all that “free” stuff costs a lot of money.

AZCoyote on November 15, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Oh, and there was some liberal criticism of the deal Oklahoma worked out, claims that it would undermine Obamacare by delaying people from being pushed into the glorious comprehensive coverage policies required by Obamacare.

mbs on November 15, 2013 at 10:25 AM

If this law was understood prior to Nov. 2012 we would have a different POTUS.

My shock that Obama won is directly proportional to my understanding of the ACA.

mjbrooks3 on November 15, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Flange on November 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM

That would really be a “big fvcking deal.”

TXUS on November 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM

What a shame it happened so fast.

rogerb on November 15, 2013 at 10:28 AM

The only problem is that if he gets benched, Joe Biden has to come in from the sidelines, and nobody wants that.

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I do. Joe the boob running the show, unchecked in a disgraced administration, would be comedy gold and set the progressives back a 100 years.

Flange on November 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM

I thought it was a brutal and funny op ed from the NY Post.

As for Biden…He’d spend most of his time drinking

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:29 AM

They’re really not so much interested in a “fix” as they are in enough time to avoid the consequences of the law in 2014.

The problem is that the insurance companies start sending out the termination notices, and the notices about the premium increases, months before they take effect.

So even if your insurer is going to somehow allow you to keep your non O-Care compliant policy for another year, you’re still going to be getting a termination notice next October, and finding out about the huge increase in the premiums and deductibles you’ll have to pay for your new “improved” O-Care policy, shortly thereafter.

Just in time to motivate you to go to the polls in November and vote against the idiot Dim politicians responsible.

AZCoyote on November 15, 2013 at 10:30 AM

But look, he went on to say, this Web-site thing isn’t easy! See, it has programs and things in it. “The Web site itself is doing a lot of stuff,” he explained, because, you know, other Web sites don’t do a lot of stuff. “There’s just a — a bunch of pieces to it that made it challenging.”

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Well, hell yeah. Takes time for the NSA to process this stuff, duhh.

WryTrvllr on November 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM

obama’s capitulation

… the obama concession yesterday to allow insurance companies to continue to cover customers whose plans don’t meet obamacare standards.

Huh? In what way did obama “capitulate”? As WE ALL KNOW, obama has no legal authority to push the unconstitutional “fix” he vomited up yesterday – his proposal has absolutely no meaning and will not change anything – obama cannot unilaterally “allow” or force insurance companies to do anything – AND these companies are not going to violate federal law simply to appease turdboy. Far from “capitulation”, obama’s proposal is just another desperate power-grab. EPIC FAIL.

IMPEACH obama NOW!

Pork-Chop on November 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Push back: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/14/Defiant-Obama-Says-He-Will-Push-Back-Against-Obamacare-Critics

“If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun”

davidk on November 15, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Can you imagine what Teddy Kennedy and Robert Byrd would be saying about this guy if they were alive?

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

“Scotch, neat” comes to mind for Teddy
“Make the eye holes smaller!” for Robert

WryTrvllr on November 15, 2013 at 10:33 AM

“This was all about Barack Obama, as usual. It is a result of raw political calculation – his only seeming area of competence.”

No. Not that either. (But it’s ok, you did qualify it with ‘seeming’.)

Tsar of Earth on November 15, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Constitutional Crisis

Ben Sasse: obama’s supposed “fix” is outrageous, illegal and unconstitutional.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_12UFHSh-w&feature=youtu.be

Pork-Chop on November 15, 2013 at 10:34 AM

“If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun”

davidk on November 15, 2013 at 10:32 AM

When in Rome….

When in Chicago…

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Link to map of health insurance cancellations numbers by state:

http://www-958.ibm.com/software/data/cognos/manyeyes/visualizations/obamacare-number-health-insurance-

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:35 AM

DanMan on November 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM

These are politicians after all. Barry didn’t invent blaming others, and these politicians have been playing the game as long, or longer than Barry. He has nothing to offer fellow democrats at this point.

Flange on November 15, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Push back: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/14/Defiant-Obama-Says-He-Will-Push-Back-Against-Obamacare-Critics

“If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun”

davidk on November 15, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Time to wag the dog?

Watch your six.

davidk on November 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM

I hope he fails.

Murphy9 on November 15, 2013 at 10:39 AM

And not one reporter asked if it was legal yesterday…

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:40 AM

“President Barack Obama’s decision to allow insurance companies to continue offering policies that would be canceled under the Affordable Care Act has an unclear effect on Texans.

In an announcement today, the President said he is leaving it up to states and state insurance commissioners to decide if consumers can keep these plans through 2014.

In a written statement, Texas Governor Rick Perry said the decision makes a bad situation worse, by creating more confusion for consumers. John Davidson with the Texas Public Policy Foundation agrees.

“The president’s so-called administrative fix makes state commissioners in some states more powerful than the president. And that’s a remarkable thing for the President to do rather than allow Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate to pass legislation that would repeal this harmful part of the law,” Davidson says.

Davidson is referring to a vote tomorrow in the U.S. House of Representatives on a bill that would let consumers buy these minimal plans, not just keep them for another year.

Texas is one of six states that chose not to enforce the Affordable Care Act market reform provisions. So the state doesn’t necessarily keep track of which plans don’t comply with the Act.

The Texas Department of Insurance released the following statement: “Because Texas is not enforcing the Affordable Care Act, it remains to be seen how President Obama’s executive order will impact the marketplace and consumers. Whether a company offers or withdraws a policy is a business decision for that company. We will be closely monitoring the impact of these latest developments on consumers and the industry.”

http://kut.org/post/effect-texas-consumers-unclear-obama-delays-health-insurance-plan-cancellations

Link to Gov. Perry’s statement:

“This is a staggering display of a reckless president cavalierly instructing states to ignore federal law. President Obama is shifting the blame by saying it’s up to states and state insurance commissioners to fix the massive problem his signature law has created for millions of Americans who are losing their health insurance. President Obama did succeed at one thing today: making a bad situation worse with a ‘fix’ that will create more confusion for consumers and threatens to destabilize the health insurance industry. Obamacare is an abject failure; it’s time to overturn this ill-conceived, job-killing nightmare that ultimately will bankrupt this country.”

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/19090/

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:40 AM

I hope he fails.

Murphy9 on November 15, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Racist Teabagger Terrorist.

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:40 AM

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:29 AM

It is a good read. I’ve seen the “No one wants Biden as President” line a bit, and I always thought it was misguided. Normally the idea of Joe as President would be scary, but in a disgraced administration with less than a full term, comedy gold.

Flange on November 15, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Just kind of a hint to any and all HotAir writers:

There isn’t anything that Karl Rove has to say that I care to hear. That anti-Ted Cruz/anti-Tea Party turd can pound sand.

trapeze on November 15, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Another excellent post McQ.

For him, this is about as good as it gets.

Given the level of hubris within Barack Obama, it was inevitable that Nemesis would appear and not be easily daunted or deflected.

He’s in a trap of his own making – as his body language and rambling answers clearly demonstrated in yesterday’s presser. The irony of the man whose entire vision and agenda is premised around big government being the best possible entity to deliver ‘fairness’ and ‘justice’ whinging about the challenges of the federal bureaucracy to buy / run / implement IT projects was palatable to this IT executive.

Add to all of this the implausibility of the denials of knowledge and information (as detailed in MKH’s superb post), and we have a huge wake-up call for the American voter. It’s unfortunate that it’s about 15 months too late, but then that also demonstrates the fecklessness of the mainstream media who carried him to his 2012 re-election.

I’m still looking back through history, but I can’t find a single two term American President, including Nixon and Dubya, who imploded into irrelevancy and lame duck status this quick into their second term.

Athos on November 15, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Racist Teabagger Terrorist.

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Can I get that on a T-shirt?

Murphy9 on November 15, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Next he will blame his mother for getting pregnant and giving birth to him.

birdwatcher on November 15, 2013 at 10:43 AM

And not one reporter asked if it was legal yesterday…

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Ahhh, legal schmegal, so long as it’s popular. Just ask Octavius!

WryTrvllr on November 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM

When in Chicago…

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Speaking of Chicago:

Chicago is now just four notches above junk-bond status.

http://illinoispolicy.org/chicagos-triple-notch-credit-downgrade/

November To Date
Shot & Killed: 15
Shot & Wounded: 49
Total Homicides*: 16

This Week (Sun – Sat)
Shot & Killed: 6
Shot & Wounded: 11
Total Homicides*: 6

Year to Date Totals
Shot & Killed: 328
Shot & Wounded: 1600
Total Homicides*: 396

http://www.heyjackass.com/

davidk on November 15, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Can I get that on a T-shirt?

Murphy9 on November 15, 2013 at 10:43 AM

I think I could do a bumper sticker. The ink might come off in the rain though. You’d have to permanently shellack on the back of your redneck pickup truck.

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Next he will blame his mother for getting pregnant and giving birth to him.

birdwatcher on November 15, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Don’t we all.

WryTrvllr on November 15, 2013 at 10:48 AM

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:29 AM

It is a good read. I’ve seen the “No one wants Biden as President” line a bit, and I always thought it was misguided. Normally the idea of Joe as President would be scary, but in a disgraced administration with less than a full term, comedy gold.

Flange on November 15, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Biden would spend a lot of time going after Hillary…so there’s that

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:48 AM

I was reading today that in Oklahoma, we have not had a big problem with cancelled policies, because the state’s largest insurers and the state Insurance Department worked out a deal allowing a grace period plan that protects Oklahomans from disrupted coverage. If consumers renew policies early — by Dec. 1 instead of Jan. 1 — they can keep their same plans through December 2014, even if their coverage doesn’t meet the new requirements mandated by the Affordable Care Act. Of course, Oklahoma’s individual insurance market is relatively small, only about 110,000. I wondered why more states did not do something similar.

This is why we have already received our cancellation policy for our empoyer based BCBS Group Insurance through the OKC Chamber of Commerce!

Get ready all you other group insurance plans, you’re cancellation notice is probably in the mail!

fbcmusicman on November 15, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Look I’m just an average person and am struggling to try and determine if what Obama did yesterday is legal, doable, clever, or foolish. When you consider that even after all Obama has been caught lying about he still enjoys a 40% approval rate did he just fool the LIVs enough to pull Obamacare out of the fire? If they pass a delay measure doesn’t that do exactly what President Fiat did yesterday? If this is delayed for a year doesn’t that work in the Dems favor? In short do the smart folks on HA think he pulled the wool over enough eyes to convince them that the Ons Cos are at fault?

neyney on November 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Why am I reminded of the final scene in Animal House with Kevin Bacon holding up his hands saying “All is well.”

COgirl on November 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM

My favorite defense of yesterday’s presser and absurd idea that the rat-eared one can arbitrarily waive the law was this-

It isn’t a matter of life or death……….

Really, some pundit (I forget who) really said that health insurance and healthcare is not a matter of life or death.

The GOP really needs to make it clear that they were against Obamacare when all these recent convert Dems were out there talking about the ability to keep one’s doctor and plan. And that unlike Obama, they were always for those substandard plans that the rat-eared dictator was against before he was for them.

Happy Nomad on November 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Why am I reminded of the final scene in Animal House with Kevin Bacon holding up his hands saying “All is well.”

COgirl on November 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM

I’m more put in mind of the scene where the (Obamacare) marching band ends up trapped in a blind alley.

Happy Nomad on November 15, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Ahhh, legal schmegal, so long as it’s popular. Just ask Octavius!

WryTrvllr on November 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM

What he did yesterday was not popular. Except among Congressional Dems looking for cover- like cockroaches suddenly exposed to direct light.

Happy Nomad on November 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Get ready all you other group insurance plans, you’re cancellation notice is probably in the mail!

fbcmusicman on November 15, 2013 at 10:50 AM

So far it’s only really been little rabbit pellets of political poo to hit the fan. When those cancellations start rolling out, run for cover. Elephant dung will fly…

Then there is the cost problem that is hidden by a strategically “crippled” website.

Then there is the Doctor problem…

oldroy on November 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Murphy9 on November 15, 2013 at 10:39 AM

I believe your wish has been granted…

dpduq on November 15, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Get ready all you other group insurance plans, you’re your cancellation notice is probably in the mail!

Apologies, I hate misspellings!

fbcmusicman on November 15, 2013 at 10:50 AM

fbcmusicman on November 15, 2013 at 11:02 AM

“[R]esponding to Obamacare caps on premiums, many insurers will, in turn, simply offer top-tier doctors and hospitals far less cash for services rendered.

Watchdog.org looked at the top 18 hospitals nationwide as ranked by U.S. News and World Report for 2013-2014. We contacted each hospital to determine their contracts and talked to several insurance companies, as well.

The result of our investigation: Many top hospitals are simply opting out of Obamacare.

Chances are the individual plan you purchased outside Obamacare would allow you to go to these facilities. For example, fourth-ranked Cleveland Clinic accepts dozens of insurance plans if you buy one on your own. But go through Obamacare and you have just one choice: Medical Mutual of Ohio.

If the insurance President Obama forced you to cancel was accepted by any one of these hospitals, that promise about being able to keep your plan and doctor will really hit home.

This is not the first report that shows ObamaCare is worsening health care for some. Wednesday, CNN reported that victims of the federal exchange policies will have their options limited all over the country.

When Democrats talked about “Two America,” I was under the mistaken impression they were speaking out in opposition to such a thing…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/31/Two-americas-top-hospitals-closed-to-obamacare-enrollees

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Our policy with a major company which we loved just went up $150 a month with sorta-kinda-not quite the same coverage. They let us know about 4+ months ago that it would be changing. I assume that IF it was even possible and we were “allowed” to go back to our previous policy, they would give us another 4+ month warning next year. This would be well in advance of the 2014 elections. That’s plenty of time to create a lot of disgruntled voters. How is this “helping” The Dims as some speculate?

Is BO/are they that dismally stupid?
Or is this just another step in the chaos master plan to throw us into single payer when the eeeevvvilll insurance companies don’t fall in line?

Jomama on November 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM

This is why we have already received our cancellation policy for our empoyer based BCBS Group Insurance through the OKC Chamber of Commerce!

Get ready all you other group insurance plans, you’re cancellation notice is probably in the mail!

fbcmusicman on November 15, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Yes, I think next year when the employer mandate kicks in is going to be a nightmare for employer based plans, and I fully expect my employer to end our coverage and push us into the exchange at some point. I’m at a small company, not required to provide ins. under the new law, and financially, it just makes sense, since premiums are projected to skyrocket. I can’t say I would even blame them. Just not looking forward to it.

mbs on November 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM

No one is talking about why ObamaCare is so expensive…

albill on November 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Obysmalcare was never about insurance. It is wholly a program of social welfare based on the redistribution of wealth.

It combines elements of Marxism (“to each according to his need”)and elements of sharia law.

Muslims, who have been given a waiver from complying with O-care, do not believe in insurance. They view it as a form of gambling. By seizing the wealth of those who can afford to purchase insurance (ironically because they understand its purpose and because they are fiscally responsible), Obysmal can impose a Muslim-style charity for the less fortunate.

Insurance was never intended to cover every health-care need. If a person chose such coverage, he paid the freight in premiums. With the mandates of Obysmalcare, the premiums had to skyrocket. The costs, however, would be borne by the responsible insurance purchaser and the taxpayers who will pay the freight of “subsidies.”

The fundamental transformation of America is on a fast train to oblivion.

onlineanalyst on November 15, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Obysmalcare was never about insurance. It is wholly a program of social welfare based on the redistribution of wealth.

Currently, the insurance companies in bed with Obysmal in this fascistic scheme are merely middle men, pawns for serving the ends of the all-powerful State.

Medical providers will become employees of the State, who will have to be content with what the State “deems” a “fair” fee.

onlineanalyst on November 15, 2013 at 11:12 AM

So…..when does Obama head for the bunker?

TeresainFortWorth on November 15, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Good post from Patterico this morning…Sent this to my sister who lives in a van on the denial river…

“The best estimate, subject to a “tremendous amount of uncertainty,” is that about 3 million to 5 million fewer people will obtain coverage through their employer each year from 2019 through 2022.

Here’s the thing, though: these estimates are for losses of employer-provided coverage.

That’s the coming storm. That’s the effects of the employer mandate — the one Obama has already illegally delayed a year — not the individual market, which he is illegally and fecklessly pretending to “fix” administratively as we speak.

AN ASIDE ABOUT THE INCOMPETENCE OF POLITIFIACT: By the way — and this is so bad that I think it will merit a separate post and some hounding from me — PolitiFact repeatedly published an analysis that understated this by a factor of four. In a cut-and-paste that appears in three completely separate “fact-checking” pieces (maybe more) they said this:

CBO, along with the similarly nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation, settled on a range of 3 million to 5 million fewer people, on net, obtaining coverage through their employer each year from 2019 through 2022 than would have been the case before the law was passed.

While 3 million to 5 million people is nothing to sneeze at, it’s also quite a bit lower than the 20 million figure Priebus cited. So where did the 20 million number come from?

Each year, doofuses. EACH YEAR.

Yes, 3 to 5 million is quite a bit lower than 20 million. But 3 to 5 million each year for four years is 12 to 20 million, which is not “quite a bit lower” than 20 million.

BACK TO THE MAIN POINT: Any way you slice it, there were predictions that this law would cause people to lose their plans. So yeah, we were warned. And you are still being warned — because the real crapstorm is still on the horizon…”

http://patterico.com/2013/11/15/you-were-warned-and-you-continue-to-be-warned/

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Least we forget: ALWAYS REMEMBER
Pelosi said “We have to pass the bill in order to find out what is in it.”
Don’t hear anybody calling this out to remind the people what a dope she is. Still!

boogieboy on November 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM

What he did yesterday was not popular. Except among Congressional Dems looking for cover- like cockroaches suddenly exposed to direct light.

Happy Nomad on November 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM

It WILL be popular among his LIV base, who are anti-capitalist, anti-business, anti-energy, anti-imperial, and anti-american.

And there’s no reason to be so redundant.

WryTrvllr on November 15, 2013 at 11:39 AM

I was tracking a UPS shipment that I have since received and, lo and behold, I noticed that my package received special treatment! Let’s see what happened yesterday at about 1:40 pm? Oh, yeah, BO was giving a speech about the problems with Obamacare. Now it makes sense.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/e3qb.jpg/

lonestarleeroy on November 15, 2013 at 11:42 AM

The only problem is that if he gets benched, Joe Biden has to come in from the sidelines, and nobody wants that.

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I do. Joe the boob running the show, unchecked in a disgraced administration, would be comedy gold and set the progressives back a 100 years.

Flange on November 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM

I thought it was a brutal and funny op ed from the NY Post.

As for Biden…He’d spend most of his time drinking

workingclass artist on November 15, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Biden would be ten times the president that the REB is. He’s just as stupid as the REB, but I don’t think many doubt that he loves our country and wants the best for it, unlike the REB.

slickwillie2001 on November 15, 2013 at 11:46 AM

I was tracking a UPS shipment that I have since received and, lo and behold, I noticed that my package received special treatment! Let’s see what happened yesterday at about 1:40 pm? Oh, yeah, BO was giving a speech about the problems with Obamacare. Now it makes sense.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/e3qb.jpg/

lonestarleeroy on November 15, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Heh.

davidk on November 15, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Least we forget: ALWAYS REMEMBER
Pelosi said “We have to pass the bill in order to find out what is in it.”
Don’t hear anybody calling this out to remind the people what a dope she is. Still!

boogieboy on November 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM

And she said that when it was only 2,000 pages. Now it’s: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/03/12/photo-20000-pages-of-obamacare-regulations-n1532069

davidk on November 15, 2013 at 11:59 AM

mbs on November 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Other states did that as well – Indiana for one. But the insurers rightly realized that frmo an underwriting perspective, it was a losing proposition. SMal players left the amrket because they weren’t sure they could accurately reflect the underwriting risk with the moving parts, adding in two sets of policies was just going to be worse.

Zomcon JEM on November 15, 2013 at 12:03 PM

There’s one big political reason for what Obumbles did yesterday, and it’s not any of the reasons listed.

He doesn’t care about being embarrassed because he has no shame. He doesn’t care about other Dems or losing the Senate in the midterms. He doesn’t give a flying fluke if the Dem nominee in 2016 is irreparably damaged by this. All of that means nothing to him.

All he’s doing is trying to delay the possibility of repeal. If he can get enough people to sign up for Medicaid and subsidies, he figures it will become too politically unpalatable for anyone to repeal or change the damn thing. Once he reaches that point, this thing will be solidly ensconced and he won’t have to deal with it anymore.

PetecminMd on November 15, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Other states did that as well – Indiana for one. But the insurers rightly realized that frmo an underwriting perspective, it was a losing proposition. SMal players left the amrket because they weren’t sure they could accurately reflect the underwriting risk with the moving parts, adding in two sets of policies was just going to be worse.

Zomcon JEM on November 15, 2013 at 12:03 PM

That makes sense. Oklahoma’s deal may have been a function of how small the individual market is, when you’re only talking about 100,000 policies versus many hundreds of thousands.

mbs on November 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Yep

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ

roflmmfao

donabernathy on November 15, 2013 at 12:30 PM

LET ….. IT ….. BURN!!!

I am loving this!!

RandallinHerndon on November 15, 2013 at 12:43 PM

in Oklahoma, … the state’s largest insurers and the state Insurance Department worked out a deal allowing a grace period plan that protects Oklahomans from disrupted coverage. If consumers renew policies early — by Dec. 1 instead of Jan. 1 — they can keep their same plans through December 2014… I wondered why more states did not do something similar.

Here in CA, where my family policy was “discontinued” I don’t see how – even if the almighty-one deigns that I can keep my policy for another year – how that can happen.

As of 01.01.14 my insurer, HealthNet no longer provides coverage – i.e., has no provider network – in my county… I called our two providers (Sutter Health and Dignity (Catholic Healthcare West)) and neither will be able to accept Healthnet in our county next year.

Obamacare significantly downsized provider networks and coverage maps got scrambled around between the remaining providers. Wait until people find out that many of their specialists and labs and such are no longer in their provider networks…

DrDeano on November 15, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Here in CA, where my family policy was “discontinued” I don’t see how – even if the almighty-one deigns that I can keep my policy for another year – how that can happen.

As of 01.01.14 my insurer, HealthNet no longer provides coverage – i.e., has no provider network – in my county… I called our two providers (Sutter Health and Dignity (Catholic Healthcare West)) and neither will be able to accept Healthnet in our county next year.

Obamacare significantly downsized provider networks and coverage maps got scrambled around between the remaining providers. Wait until people find out that many of their specialists and labs and such are no longer in their provider networks…

DrDeano on November 15, 2013 at 1:01 PM

In fact, in the post-Obamacare world you cannot assume that if (for example) BCBS’s network for health insurance plans bought directly from them will be the same network as for their health insurance plans bought through a federal or state exchange.

A two-tiered system is being built, even within each insurance company.

slickwillie2001 on November 15, 2013 at 3:17 PM