Washington state insurance commissioner: No, we’re not letting insurers un-cancel plans now

posted at 4:31 pm on November 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Good news or bad news for President Buckpasser?

Alternate headline: “White House to begin referring to ObamaCare as ‘KreidlerCare.’”

Just hours after President Obama announced changes to his health care law to give insurance companies the option to keep offering consumers plans that would otherwise be canceled, Washington state Insurance Commissioner Mike Kreidler says those changes will not be allowed in our state.

Kreidler says Thursday he has “serious concerns” about how Obama’s proposal would be implemented and its potential impact on the overall stability of the state’s health insurance market.

“I do not believe his proposal is a good deal for the state of Washington,” Kreidler said in a statement announcing his decision. “In the interest of keeping the consumer protections, we have enacted and ensuring that we keep health insurance costs down for all consumers, we are staying the course. We will not be allowing insurance companies to extend their policies. I believe this is in the best interest of the health insurance market in Washington.”

On the one hand, Obama will take any fall guy he can get for mass cancellations as long as it’s not him. If Kreidler wants to be the bad guy responsible for telling people they can’t keep their plan after all, fine. In fact, like I said in this post, O would surely prefer that plans aren’t un-canceled. What Kreidler said here about the stability of the insurance market is true and Obama knows it; if insurers start bringing back old plans, the prognosis for ObamaCare will turn even poorer than it already is. That’s why O adopted a version of the Republican plan, which would give insurers the option to resurrect canceled plans, and not the Democratic one, which would require them to do it. He doesn’t want it to happen, he only wants the public to think that he does.

On the other hand, O would much, much prefer to have the insurance industry as his archenemy in all this, not state insurance regulators. It’s easy to demagogue the former as cutthroat and callous about the hardships of canceling someone’s insurance. It’s harder to do it to the latter, especially when Kreidler’s talking up the same type of consumer protections that Obama himself is ostensibly concerned with at the federal level. Essentially, if Obama gets into a pissing contest with state regulators over this instead of the industry, he risks coming off as a comparatively feckless, short-sighted lawmaker — which he is — rather than the hero of the middle class, gloriously restoring them to the plans they knew and loved, that he wants to be. O doesn’t want plans un-canceled, he just wants an unpopular entity like insurers to take the fall. Kreidler’s preventing that. What now?

By the way, to circle back to a question I posed earlier, is Obama’s unilateral “fix” for mass cancellations even legal? Law professor Nicholas Bagley is skeptical. It may be, says Bagley, that HHS has some extra rulemaking authority during the “transitional” phase of ObamaCare, but since when does that give them carte blanche to start changing deadlines set by the statute itself?

As I wrote on Monday, the ACA require all plans sold on the individual market after January 1, 2014 to adhere to a new slate of rules. The administration now says that some of those plans don’t have to. What gives?…

Generic grants of rulemaking authority are not traditionally thought to give agencies the power to revise the effective dates of statutes. That’s why the delay of the employer mandate was so controversial. Although the IRS’s practice was sufficiently well-entrenched that it gave the administration a reasonable legal basis for acting, I’m skeptical that CMS has developed a similarly well-entrenched practice. (The two examples above are of quite recent vintage.) I could be wrong about that; maybe CMS really does do this kind of thing all the time. But if I’m not, the administrative fix may be vulnerable to even sharper claims of illegality than the delay of the employer mandate.

This is one reason why, I assume, Democrats like Landrieu still want to pass something in Congress. That would solve the legality issue. (And of course, it’d also give Landrieu something concrete to show conservative voters in Louisiana about her role in undoing the mass cancellations.) Problem is, Senate Democratic leaders seem to think that nothing will, or even can, pass. Landrieu’s bill would be dead in the House because it’s a mandate and Republicans don’t like mandates. Upton’s bill can’t pass in the Senate because it would allow all new enrollees, not just people who’ve had their coverage dropped, to enroll in an un-canceled plan. This is why Democrats wanted an administrative fix — which may, in fact, be illegal. On to the Supreme Court!

Update: Let the state-regulator revolt begin.

Guy Benson e-mails to note that both Kreidler and the Arkansas insurance commissioner are Democrats.


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4. If you are able to work but dont care to, and expect someone else to pay your bills for you because you are entitled/a protected species/just special, and you get sick, and # 2 doesn’t appeal to you, crawl under a rock somewhere and die.

These used to be known, and taught, as grasshoppers.

BobMbx on November 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM

You’re a treasure, Sophie.

BobMbx on November 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM

+ a couple million!!

Deano1952 on November 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM

How does Obama sleep at night???…

PatriotRider on November 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM

A little more soundly than he does during the day.

VorDaj on November 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Drudges “Fairy Tale” Headline is dead on.
.
The Unicorn and Rainbow President….with a side of Marxism……

FlaMurph on November 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Thank you. I don’t know. Probably not.

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Well, I’m gonna make sure he does. You know he’s a constitutional lawyer, and heads up the Landmark Legal Foundation which was the entity that caused the IRS persecution of TEA Party applicants to be exposed.

If you like that kind of work, Mark is your man.

BobMbx on November 14, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Full speed ahead for Obamacare.

Obama proposed to put the genie back in the bottle after he’d been on the loose for more than three years. Insurance commissioners live in reality and tell the public that it’s a no go.

BuckeyeSam on November 14, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Oregon state regulators say the same:

http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2013/11/kitzhaber_appointee_says_state.html

Though they made this call before prez buck passer made his law change.

oryguncon on November 14, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Thx, Deano. :-)

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 5:21 PM

God I love my Texas. Perry b slapping Obozo and TED CRUZ!

Bet y’all in the other 56 states are jealous ;op

neyney on November 14, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Looks like the 14 trick, Obamacare pony has collapsed due to exhaustion…what will Prezzy pull out of his arse tomorrow….

hillsoftx on November 14, 2013 at 5:23 PM

How does Obama sleep at night???…

PatriotRider on November 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Curled up in back of Reggie (or is it in front)?

AZCoyote on November 14, 2013 at 5:23 PM

I’m lost. If the Federal government allows insurers to bring back those plans, is the Insurance Commissioner violating Federal “Administrative” Law by prohibiting it?

Dusty on November 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM

I don’t see how.

Obama is just making it up as he goes.

BuckeyeSam on November 14, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Its almost like there are a whole bunch of elected D’s that are beginning to suspect that Obama doesn’t care much about their re-election chances.

ajacksonian on November 14, 2013 at 5:25 PM

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 1h

Let’s not argue whose idea it was to bring the Jarts and tequila. We need to all work together to fix the hole in this guy’s head.

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Heads-up: In a few minutes Wolfman Blitz is going to host a “debate” on O’Liarcare between Michelle Bachmann and…The Forehead. This should be hallucinogenic.

Del Dolemonte on November 14, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Its almost like there are a whole bunch of elected D’s that are beginning to suspect that Obama doesn’t care much about their re-election chances.

ajacksonian on November 14, 2013 at 5:25 PM

An added bonus to a failed Presidency!!!

Soon the dems will be arguing who gets to sign the papers to convict Obama after we impeach his ass….

redguy on November 14, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Justice is not what the government doles out in the name of ‘fairness’, justice is what happens when Nemesis meets the thin-skinned, petulant, feckless, narcissistic Alinksy-lite community organizer as he overflows with hubris.

Athos on November 14, 2013 at 5:33 PM

[oryguncon on November 14, 2013 at 5:21 PM]

From your link:

State regulators have rejected an idea to push back the cancellation dates of more than 140,000 Oregonians’ health insurance policies despite public confusion and momentum among California officials and some national Democratic Party leaders to do so.

I’m lost again, folks. What exactly is Obama proposing to do. Is Obama revising the regulations on the grandfathering such that these plans will continue or or is he delaying the regulations on the grandfathering such that these plans have a short extended lifetime?

Putting aside the probability these policies will eventually disappear, grandfathering is usually a permanent act, not a temporary extension of life.

Is Obama’s executive decision nothing more than a delay of his original “if you like your plan you can keep it” fraud he originally perpetrated?

Dusty on November 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM

South Carolina says NO too.

54 states to go

Sharyl Attkisson ‏@SharylAttkisson 42m

SC Dept of Insurance issued this statement: There will be a lot of confusion in the days to come…

“…South Carolina does not intend to add to that confusion by enforcing federal rules the federal government won’t even enforce.”

sentinelrules on November 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM

he White House ‏@WhiteHouse 16 May

It’s. The. Law. #ObamaCareInThreeWords, pic.twitter.com/yCHSmuxkKj
Retweeted by David Burge

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Because … insurance companies may have to obey regulation and federal law… they also have to obey the law of business…. the bottom line….satisfying their shareholders and protecting their shareholder’s investments.

Unless Obama wants to legally, through and act of congress change the law… the insurance companies have the upper hand in this. They are in compliance with Obamacare, and for the president to say that they can grandfather those cancelled plans for a year is not the same as changing the law. If Obama wants those plans grandfathered he’s going to have to ask congress to change the law.

It would take a monumental, and expensive, effort on the part of insurers to offer those cancelled “substandard” plans again. These corporations and companies have already laid out a sizable amount of shareholder funds in order to comply with Obamacare. They aren’t likely to comply with Obama’s ‘suggestion’ unless they are forced to do so… by law…and I don’t think Obama is going to get away with legislating from his desk on this one, and if he does try to legislate from his desk, again… he should be impeached.

thatsafactjack on November 14, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Full repeal is the ONLY way out of this Rube Goldberg reparation, Obama, Rev. Wright, inspired scheme! A Senate Democrat with a modicum of patriotism and decency should lead the bipartisan effort! Is there one in the Senate who would do it? Are you listening Senator Manchin??

Marco on November 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM

By sunrise tomorrow, the 10th Amendment will rule the land.

BobMbx on November 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM

The White House ‏@WhiteHouse 16 May

It’s. The. Law. #ObamaCareInThreeWords, pic.twitter.com/yCHSmuxkKj
Retweeted by David Burge

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Bet y’all in the other 56 states are jealous ;op

neyney on November 14, 2013 at 5:22 PM

That was slick.

HiJack on November 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM

“…South Carolina does not intend to add to that confusion by enforcing federal rules the federal government won’t even enforce.”

[sentinelrules on November 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM]

That’s confusing in itself. Does it mean they aren’t going to enforce Obamacare?

Likewise, if the rules the Fed aren’t going to enforce is the mandatory minimum requirements which are causing the cancelling of the policies, then does that mean SC will not be enforcing them either? In which case, are they saying they are going to allow the cancelled plans to be uncancelled?

Dusty on November 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM

I’m lost again, folks. What exactly is Obama proposing to do. Is Obama revising the regulations on the grandfathering such that these plans will continue or or is he delaying the regulations on the grandfathering such that these plans have a short extended lifetime?

Putting aside the probability these policies will eventually disappear, grandfathering is usually a permanent act, not a temporary extension of life.

Is Obama’s executive decision nothing more than a delay of his original “if you like your plan you can keep it” fraud he originally perpetrated?

Dusty on November 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM

He is giving a verbal commitment to not prosecute anyone who breaks the Obamacare law-of-the-land in the particular way he described. In other words, he is taking exception to the oath of office that he has taken.

slickwillie2001 on November 14, 2013 at 5:51 PM

LOL! Begala is Lying his getalife off right now on CNN. Hope he has a towel to wipe off his chin after this debacle…

Del Dolemonte on November 14, 2013 at 5:52 PM

As Powerline notes…

about Obama’s ‘solution’ to expand the number of grandfathered policies…Obama is still shamelessly lying…

Is Obama’s action illegal, as many critics are charging? It certainly could have been done legally. The Obamacare statute just says that pre-existing plans will be grandfathered, and that the details of the grandfathering will be left to regulation. It is the regulations promulgated by Obama’s Departments of the Treasury, Health and Human Services and Labor that have caused the cancelled plans to be illegal. Those same departments presumably could revise their regulations to give individuals another year of grandfathered status regardless of the policy’s terms.

But that isn’t quite the way Obama did it. Instead, HHS announced a “transitional policy” in a letter to state insurance commissioners. The letter makes clear something that I haven’t seen in news reports, i.e., the change relates not just to individual policies but to small business group plans as well. The letter then says, “State agencies responsible for enforcing the specified market reforms are encouraged to adopt the same transitional policy with respect to this coverage.” I have no idea why this remains discretionary with the state insurance commissions. It isn’t the states whose regulations banned non-conforming individual plans, it is the federal regulations promulgated by the Obama administration that did so.

In any event, I doubt that the administration paid much attention to legal niceties. This action appears to be the result of sheer panic on the part of Democrats who are up for re-election next year and who threatened to take matters into their own hands if the administration didn’t take them off the hook.

Athos on November 14, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Did he consult with anyone before he made these announcements? Did he ask anyone if it was legal for him to do this? Did he ask the insurance companies or states if this was a viable option, for them to have spent 3 years trying to comply with the new law only to be told nevermind, do something else? Did he even talk it over with Reid or Pelosi? Wow. I’ve never seen anything quite so discombobulated come from a WH and I’ve been around for a lot of presidencies.

scalleywag on November 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM

MontanaMmmm on November 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Awesome, he isn’t getting a break anywhere…

OmahaConservative on November 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Del Dolemonte on November 14, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Bachmann is doing well against two Obama lap dogs.

Brat on November 14, 2013 at 5:58 PM

South Carolina does not intend to add to that confusion by enforcing federal rules the federal government won’t even enforce.”

[sentinelrules on November 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM]

All part of the Alinsky plan.

Feds don’t enforce the laws.

Now the states don’t enforce the laws.

Chaos.

faraway on November 14, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Jonah Goldberg said it well today in National Review:

“In every tale of hubris, the transgressor is eventually slapped across the face with the semi-frozen flounder of reality.”

scalleywag on November 14, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Obama will take any fall guy he can get for mass cancellations as long as it’s not him.

Going to be FUNNY AS HELL when it turns out that DEMOCRATIC ‘insurance commissioners’ refuse to implement King Barack’s “signature” exemption (for one year) of ObamaCare.

GarandFan on November 14, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 1h

Reid: The fix proposed by President Obama today is an important step towards addressing a problem that has arisen..

Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 1h

Reid on efforts to fix #Obamacare: Whenever Republicans decide to stop rooting for failure, roll up their sleeves and get to work.

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 6:06 PM

“In every tale of hubris, the transgressor is eventually slapped across the face with the semi-frozen flounder of reality.”

scalleywag on November 14, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Out: Lame Duck

In: Frozen Flounder

faraway on November 14, 2013 at 6:10 PM

God I love my Texas. Perry b slapping Obozo and TED CRUZ!

Bet y’all in the other 56 states are jealous ;op

neyney on November 14, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Jealous of opps Perry? okkkkk. Just when you think the bubble can’t get any thicker.

loveofcountry on November 14, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Central planning takes a hit:

The Housing Industry Association (HIA) has welcomed the federal government’s decision to abolish the National Housing Supply Council (NHSC) as an opportunity to take a fresh look at Australia’s housing supply challenge.

http://www.rebonline.com.au/breaking-news/6924-industry-body-welcomes-abolition-of-supply-council

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Going to be FUNNY AS HELL when it turns out that DEMOCRATIC ‘insurance commissioners’ refuse to implement King Barack’s “signature” exemption (for one year) of ObamaCare.

GarandFan on November 14, 2013 at 6:05 PM

The Washington and Arkansas insurance commissioners are both Democrats.

Up until now, the CA insurance commissioner, in whose state over 1 million have gotten cancellation notices, only granted a 90 day extension for about 118,000 under Blue Shield who didn’t get, in his ruling, a sufficient notification of their cancellation. The others were still to expire on 12/31/13.

Will the CA insurance commissioner follow through on Obama’s ‘fix’ when the legality of it is in serious question – and he already turned down requests for extensions?

If CA goes against this, then the President is in far deeper than he realizes. But even if CA does follow the President’s ‘fix’, the legality of the action will be contested in court unless legislation is passed and signed into law by the President.

Athos on November 14, 2013 at 6:17 PM

“This is a staggering display of a reckless president cavalierly instructing states to ignore federal law. President Obama is shifting the blame by saying it’s up to states and state insurance commissioners to fix the massive problem his signature law has created for millions of Americans who are losing their health insurance. President Obama did succeed at one thing today: making a bad situation worse with a ‘fix’ that will create more confusion for consumers and threatens to destabilize the health insurance industry. Obamacare is an abject failure; it’s time to overturn this ill-conceived, job-killing nightmare that ultimately will bankrupt this country.”

ooo, man-crush for Perry a-comin’ on.

socalcon on November 14, 2013 at 6:20 PM

It is the regulations promulgated by Obama’s Departments of the Treasury, Health and Human Services and Labor that have caused the cancelled plans to be illegal. Those same departments presumably could revise their regulations to give individuals another year of grandfathered status regardless of the policy’s terms.

Embrace the uncertainty caused by government interference. WH is trying to kill the free market.

socalcon on November 14, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Gonna pop some corn (the kind with extra trans fat) and watch this unfold. Who knew the President could make this mess a bigger mess?!

Ordinary1 on November 14, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Is Obama’s executive decision nothing more than a delay of his original “if you like your plan you can keep it” fraud he originally perpetrated?

Dusty on November 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM

This is nothing more than the wittle pwincess waving her magic fairy wand to make the pwoblem magically disappear, because she says so.

Alas for the rest of us we live in the real world where you can’t unbreak a window.

You bought this, demturds. You OWN it.

If you’re serious about fixing it, REPEAL ZeroCare and IMPEACH this crazy jackass.

dogsoldier on November 14, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Here’s what I find so illuminating.

No one bought his “apology”, not even the libs.

No one is buying this “fix”, not even the libs.

Everything he touches turns to crap. The man, politically, is dead in the water. Just dead in the water.

Grace_is_sufficient on November 14, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Breaking

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM

MSNBC’s Touré: Red-State Senators in ‘Gerrymandered’ District

lostmotherland = Touré

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 5:05 PM

armed with only a quill in her hand..
RWM is deadly at twenty paces…
your the tops..!!!!

going2mars on November 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Here are four better words: EpicClusterFarkNado ™ and it sound better in a W.C. Fields voice.

dogsoldier on November 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM

i would think things like that become Artical 1 in the BHO Impeachment Papers..

going2mars on November 14, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Blame Kreidler?

But I thought it was the insurance companies… no, wait…

It’s Germany! Yes they’re to blame… no, wait…

It’s Canada! When did we stop blaming Canada, anyway?

ajacksonian on November 14, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Breaking

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Gotta love the Daily Mail, reporting what the US lap dogs won’t.

Brat on November 14, 2013 at 6:37 PM

This is some sweet, sweet stuff right here.

Bishop on November 14, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Maybe this has already been covered, but… Wasn’t the goal of today’s statement to not have democrats vote for a measure that will surely help bring this house of cards down? Wasn’t that the point behind “administrative” rather than “legislative” action?

If I were the Boehner, I would let this fester through the weekend, then, after hearing more stories like this, I’d put Upton’s bill up for a vote, or if I were McConnell, I’d co-sponsor Landrieux’s bill and call for a vote on that.

See, Mr. President? Talking isn’t doing. Since no one finds anything you say credit-worthy, we have to do this legislatively. Pass one or the other and make him sign it, killing OCare, or reject it, after just calling for virtually the same thing today.

?

BKeyser on November 14, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Crap Sammich on the Progressive menu!!

Or maybe a pie. Eat up baby!!

http://youtu.be/EaWfoNPDz74

PappyD61 on November 14, 2013 at 6:39 PM

How could they. The actuary tables have been wiped out with all the mandatory changes still going on. Any insurance company would have to be nuts to try to go back with out a full repeal of Obamacare.

CW20 on November 14, 2013 at 6:39 PM

SC Dept of Insurance issued this statement: There will be a lot of confusion in the days to come…

“…South Carolina does not intend to add to that confusion by enforcing federal rules the federal government won’t even enforce.”

sentinelrules on November 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM

ROFLOL!!! I can’t stop laughing.

txhsmom on November 14, 2013 at 6:39 PM

BKeyser on November 14, 2013 at 6:37 PM

No thanks. I want FULL REPEAL!

txhsmom on November 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM

And, an apology to Ted Cruz in the bill too.

txhsmom on November 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM

So when does some otherwise worthless pol hold Dog Eater to account for throwing out these illegal decrees left and right? Bark is breaking the law and all of Congress is sitting on their thumbs.

I tried contacting my two douchebag leftist senators, Franken and Klobuchar, I didn’t even get a form-letter answer in return; they’re hiding and being the lickspittle douchebags we’ve always known them to be.

All of Congress can go to hell for being more worried about their precious optics than about enforcing the law.

Bishop on November 14, 2013 at 6:43 PM

going to try to keep track of the states fighting this, you guys should be able to post as guests if you want to update the thread

http://www.theconservativevoices.com/topic/61554-states-fighting-back-over-latest-obamacare-rulings/

dmacleo on November 14, 2013 at 6:44 PM

txhsmom on November 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM

perhaps its..
Presidential Medal of Freedom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom
time for mr Cruz..

going2mars on November 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Well, Barky meant to collapse the insurance industry, and he sure is trying hard to make that happen.

Philly on November 14, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Bishop on November 14, 2013 at 6:43 PM

remember what got Nixon…
the Dems were gathering and prepairing to file..

and then the long knives came out from SR Repubs in the Sen..

maybe Barkley will crumble if only someone would file the darn papers…

i see Holder took one today…so we got that going for us…which is nice..

going2mars on November 14, 2013 at 6:51 PM

All I know is that I’m stressed as hell. If I understand my cancellation letter correctly, if I cancel and then renew my policy on December 1, then it can still last until the end of 2014. If I don’t do that, then it will expire at the end of March?? One way or the other I will be without insurance. I was already getting way more insurance than I needed, but now supposedly that insurance was “substandard.” So now I have to pay double for worse insurance??? Forget it.

WhatSlushfund on November 14, 2013 at 6:54 PM

There’s still hope for you AP. KP is gonna be a conservative before this is over. Hell, she’s putting Krauthammer to shame.

BacaDog on November 14, 2013 at 7:00 PM

So now I have to pay double for worse insurance??? Forget it.

WhatSlushfund on November 14, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Really? Then it’s the train for you, with an eventual stop at a place with some really nice showers.

Bishop on November 14, 2013 at 7:01 PM

going2mars on November 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Delicious. Too bad it’s a fantasy.

txhsmom on November 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM

OT but very………hahahahahhahahahhahahhahah….inhale…hahahhahahahah

MontanaMmmm on November 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM

That’s what Brandon Downey, a security engineer with Google, wrote late last month, upon learning that the NSA had broken into Google and Yahoo and was exploiting the data of millions of users, allegedly without the companies’ knowledge.

That part right there made me chuckle…Google, Yahoo and the other tech companies are in on all this from the beginning. If not because they’re buddies with various Dems and government functionaries, then because they’re salivating at all the marketing data they can glean from private users and small businesses. All they have to do if called on it is to shrug their shoulders and say, “Well, we had to-Uncle Sam made us.”

When Weasel “privacy is dead” Zuckerberg got caught with his hand in the Liberty cookie jar, folks should have left FB in droves. But I guess most truly are mental cases and masochists who love being slapped around.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Next Obama gambit–get rid of the states.

vityas

Don’t give him any ideas!

(I had a liberal with whom I somehow manage to maintain a friendship suggest this very thing as a way to eliminate arguments over the Electoral College. Quote: “Why do we need states, anyway?”

My paraphrase: Let’s just jettison 300 years of history, colonial and since, cause after all, we liberals today know everything about everything.)

ugottabekiddingme on November 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Way to revolt too late, jackasses.

We told you this was going to happen.

TX-96 on November 14, 2013 at 7:14 PM

“obama holds pressers to find out what’s going on, not to tell you” — Leno, last night

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

the timing of this chaos is incredible…just last week a girl here at work got me to buy some fundraiser popcorn for her kid’s school. I happened to pick bacon and cheese/jalapeno flavored. Supposed to arrive tomorrow.

DanMan on November 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I hope it shows up on time. If this keeps up, popcorn here will soon be as rare as toilet paper in Venezuela

LarryinLA on November 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

LarryinLA on November 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

if this keeps up Barry will have smoked every nickle
bag of Choom withing twenty blocks of the WH…
and several cartons of Kools…

going2mars on November 14, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Insurance companies in CA dropped a million policies a year early to get more people into the pool. They don’t want to go back. In fact they made a deal with Covered California and the contracts have been signed. These companies are not going to go back, there’s too much money at stake.

danielreyes on November 14, 2013 at 7:27 PM

txhsmom on November 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM

maybe President Biden could give Cruz the MoF after the Impeachment..
cuz you know Biden is going to claim he never knew nothing about anything….and we will believe him…

going2mars on November 14, 2013 at 7:28 PM

I think it was summed up well on Special Report tonight. This was not about “fixing” anything. It was the IF YOU LIKE YOUR RED STATE DEMOCRAT, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR RED STATE DEMOCRAT protection act.

Happy Nomad on November 14, 2013 at 7:30 PM

cuz you know Biden is going to claim he never knew nothing about anything….and we will believe him…

going2mars on November 14, 2013 at 7:28 PM

I’ve got to wonder if Biden has taken to calling the Oval Office and asking “Hey boss, you need me to be anywhere in particular effective noon tomorrow?”

Happy Nomad on November 14, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Happy Nomad on November 14, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Biden will be keeping his “noon” calender clean for the next few weeks….hoping for a change….

going2mars on November 14, 2013 at 7:37 PM

I blame the media for the empty suit in our White House. They never vetted the man and carried his water since he hit the national stage. They are the problem, not Obama and his Dem lap dogs…if the media had done their job, the country would not be in the mess it is today. Obama would have never been elected in 2008.

Redford on November 14, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Good news or bad news for President Buckpasser?

While that’s good, I like “Bieber Obama“. That name fits our President perfectly.

RJL on November 14, 2013 at 7:55 PM

And, an apology to Ted Cruz in the bill too.

txhsmom on November 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Add to that the maligned States and start with Texas…Governor Perry and Atty. Gen. Abbott and other conservatives as well cause they’ve been under pressure forever to cave to this disaster and conservatives in this state have been called stubborn idiots,racists,greedy and cruel for not caving. Obama was just down here last week basically blaming his failure on Texas and her stubborn governor.

Every state in this country that balked and didn’t cave to Obamacare & the bribery of Expansion of Medicaid under this administration should be acknowledged publicly for sticking to their principles,being responsible to her constituents and safe guarding her states rights.

workingclass artist on November 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM

OBAMACARE KILLS!!!

Why do Progressives (Dems and gop leadership) hate sick people?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y352YZTygHI

EVIL, EVIL, EVIL.

PappyD61 on November 14, 2013 at 8:08 PM

There’s still hope for you AP. KP is gonna be a conservative before this is over. Hell, she’s putting Krauthammer to shame.

BacaDog on November 14, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Not a chance. Go back to topics other than Egypt or Obamacare, the two personal topics on which she’s been mugged, and the dumb biatch switch goes back on.

slickwillie2001 on November 14, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Obamacare advocate poised to become next U.S. surgeon general

Vivek Hallegere Murthy, president of Doctors for America, will succeed Rear Admiral Boris Lushniak, who has been acting as the surgeon general since July, overseeing public health endeavors around the country, after Regina Benjamin completed her four-year term.

Doctors for America is a group of 15,000 physicians and medical students that has rallied behind Obamacare through participating in marches, filing an amicus brief in the Supreme Court case on the law, and even visiting the Republican National Convention to promote it, according to the group’s website.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/15/usa-healthcare-surgeongeneral-idUSL2N0J003220131115

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 9:19 PM

The plan of the DOTUS is working….perfectly.

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/the-cloward-piven-plan-to-destroy-governments

In 1966, two Columbia University sociologists, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, collaborated on a theory to end poverty in the United States. This theory, today, is referred to as the “Cloward-Piven Strategy.” People who are familiar with the likes of Saul Alinsky and William Ayers are familiar with the strategy, as are the full complement of the Progressive Movement.

In a nutshell, the underlying principle of the Cloward-Piven Strategy is to so overload the entitlement system – to add so many to the entitlement rolls, that the country’s economic system collapses, unleashing chaos and violence in the streets, thus affecting radical Leftist political change in government. Up until recently this theory has been just that, a theory, and a theory that anarchists and Progressives have salivated over for their want of execution. But today, we are seeing the fruits of the Cloward-Piven Strategy played out to success in Greece and several other financial destitute countries in Europe.

PappyD61 on November 14, 2013 at 9:34 PM

BLOODSPORT: The Health Insurance Industry Is Now Locked In A Death Struggle With The Democrat Party…

…and only one of the two will survive.

Understand this: the health insurance industry is very much to blame for Obamacare. The health insurance industry happily got naked and jumped into the sack with Obama on his health insurance scheme. They did so thinking that he would leave them a fat, sweaty wad of cash on the night table in the form of forcing everybody in the country to buy their products, and in the process he would make them something akin to a public utility with a pre-ordained profit margin.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/11/bloodsport-health-insurance-industry-is.html

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 9:49 PM

“In the interest of keeping the consumer protections, we have enacted and ensuring that we keep health insurance costs down for all consumers, we are staying the course.

And this is the very heart of the UNAFFORDABLE CARE ACT. The name itself, (ACA) is a lie, because every provision written in the bill is designed to raise premiums—either now or at a later date.

Rovin on November 14, 2013 at 10:06 PM

This president is clueless when it comes to business and especially insurance. Good job America.

CWchangedhisNicagain on November 14, 2013 at 10:08 PM

And this is the very heart of the UNAFFORDABLE CARE ACT. The name itself, (ACA) is a lie, because every provision written in the bill is designed to raise premiums—either now or at a later date.

Rovin on November 14, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Obamacare increases minimum premiums in Virginia by more than 350%!

http://www.alexashrugged.com/2013/11/obamacare-increases-minimum-premiums-in.html#.UoWQ0uIUYVW

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 10:12 PM

This is turning out to be a rude awakening for the left and their single payer wet dream. Reality sucks. At what point does this entire law get repealed? The choice seems to be Obamacare or the future of the democrat party.

Ellis on November 14, 2013 at 10:22 PM

How does Obama sleep at night???…

PatriotRider on November 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM

And why does he keep waking up?

Ronnie on November 14, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Time to pull a Goebbels.

teacherman on November 14, 2013 at 11:40 PM

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