Toure: Let’s face it, red-state Senate Dems criticize ObamaCare because we live in a gerrymandered world

posted at 7:01 pm on November 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Corner. I’ve been looking for a palate cleanser all day for you guys but until now none of the offerings were up to snuff. Rand Paul claiming that the billions in federal money that New Jersey got after Hurricane Sandy basically bought the election for Christie? Nah. There’ll be time to blog that when Christie fires back and then Paul responds with another crack about “bacon.” McCain suggesting that he’s tired of being asked about Palin? Tempting, but no. He was polite to her in most of his answer, and everyone surely grasps by now that the two of them disdain each other politically. He’s King RINO; she’s the queen of the tea-party “hobbits.” Of course he doesn’t want to be asked about her anymore. He’s lucky she doesn’t primary him herself in 2016.

So we’re left with this guy, who, after listing a bunch of Democratic senators, mused about the challenges of governing in a “gerrymandered world.” People are goofing on him on Twitter because, of course, gerrymandering is a House phenomenon, not a Senate one. The “gerrymander lines” for a senator are the, um, state borders. Here’s what I want to know, though: What was he trying to say? The point he’s making, as I understand it, is basically the opposite of the criticism that’s usually made about gerrymandering. He seems to be saying that red-state Dems have no choice but to push a mildly conservative critique of O-Care since, after all, they do come from red states. If you’re a Democrat who wants to get reelected by a mostly Republican electorate, you’ve got to pander to voters in the other party a little. The knock on gerrymandering, though, is that you never have to pander to the other party. By drawing district lines irregularly to aggregate a huge majority of voters who are either Democrats or Republicans, you’re guaranteeing that the House member they elect only needs to appeal to that majority. That’s (allegedly) one of the sources of gridlock in the House: You don’t see many swing votes in the middle because most reps come from districts where there’s already a solid majority from one party or the other, which forces them to do their party base’s bidding. Landrieu, Begich, et al. are in the opposite situation. They wish they were gerrymandered somehow so that they could go face-first into the tank for ObamaCare and never worry about paying a price for it. So … what on earth is Toure talking about? Dude?


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We now know who lostmotherland is…

In response to the question ‘How do you think Ted Cruz became a Senator?’ one of Hot Air’s resident Progtard ‘scholars’ responded:

‘Gerrymandering.’

- lostmotherland on October 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM

So the State of Texas, IN ITS FVCKING ENTIRETY, is gerrymandered?

Gerrymandering only factors into House seats and state/local districts. And, of course, it is not limited to one party

- Me

lostmotherland = Touré

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:04 PM

lostmotherland!

rogerb on November 14, 2013 at 7:04 PM

MSLSD braintrust.

Affirmative Action!

Murphy9 on November 14, 2013 at 7:05 PM

One of the stupidest people alive, and I say that knowing Joy Behar and lostfatherland are still above ground.

Bishop on November 14, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Oh yeah. lostmotherland.

portlandon on November 14, 2013 at 7:05 PM

I knew he was stupid

gerrym51 on November 14, 2013 at 7:05 PM

I thought Gerry Mander played the Beaver on Leave it to Beaver.

Flange on November 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Here’s what I want to know, though: What was he trying to say?

Open your mind to the possibility that he’s just an idiot.

Fabozz on November 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM

What a maroon.

squint on November 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Proverbs 18:2

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.

Murphy9 on November 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Here’s what I want to know, though: What was he trying to say?

Touré is a LIV pundit. MMfA and the DNC say ‘gerrymandering’ and Touré – like our own lostmotherland – just gulps the Kook-Aid and spouts the party line…even if it is insane.

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM

There is a tiffed dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as the debt and as timeless as insanity. It is the middle ground between blue and noodles, between stupidity and Sanscrit, and it lies between the pit of Toure’s ears and the summit of his folly. This is the dimension of indigestion. It is an area which we call the Toure Zone.

ajacksonian on November 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM

At least he didn’t start talking about scuba divers in the subway.

Mark1971 on November 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Toure-based realism.

vinman on November 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Dumba$$ Toure can’t even say Oregon correctly.

“Orey-Gone”.

Schmuck.

portlandon on November 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM

He’s King RINO; she’s the queen of the tea-party “hobbits.”

Wait. I thought I was King RINO.

KingGold on November 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM

This is the dimension of indigestion. It is an area which we call the Toure Zone.

ajacksonian on November 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo

Flange on November 14, 2013 at 7:10 PM

“Orygone”. Nice touch.

Ordinary1 on November 14, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Apart from his basic stupidity, I think people forget that the Southern states, for the most part, have majority Democratic populations (by registration).

Just a POI.

mankai on November 14, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Ha. Touch blue, RWM.

rogerb on November 14, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Are they having a competition at MSNBC to see who can say the stupidest thing?

rbj on November 14, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Did the mothers of liberals smoke tailpipes? Oh wait that was just LIBfreakily.

CWchangedhisNicagain on November 14, 2013 at 7:12 PM

‘Gerrymandering.’
- lostmotherland on October 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM

LMAO! Now we know who lostmotherland is.

NotCoach on November 14, 2013 at 7:12 PM

They wish they were gerrymandered somehow so that they could go face-first into the tank for ObamaCare and never worry about paying a price for it. So … what on earth is Toure talking about? Dude?
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ProgressiveTard!!

canopfor on November 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Can the Fraud in Chief and his azzlickers get any more stupid?

Sure they can.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM

On topic, it’s beyond schadenfreudig to watch the leftist spectacle.

Best article, all day.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Everything looks like a nail to him I guess.

stldave on November 14, 2013 at 7:14 PM

So … what on earth is Toure talking about? Dude?

I would tell you to ask him, but he doesn’t have any idea either.

AUINSC on November 14, 2013 at 7:15 PM

‘GERRYMANDER’ is a magic word liberals use as a bullshit factor when they have no real argument. If the Dems in question were actually in a gerrymandered district in their favor, they wouldn’t have to jump through hoops to save their seats. The cards would be stacked in their favor. If the district were gerrymandered against them, they wouldn’t be sitting in that seat in the first place.

Owain on November 14, 2013 at 7:15 PM

More idiocy…

Feinstein is coming out hard against it, but Senators from blue states, like Boxer, are solidly behind the law.

mankai on November 14, 2013 at 7:15 PM

“If you don’t like Socialism, Statism, Marxism, Communism…?

Guess Whut”

Some Uber/douche on MSNBC is gonna call you a Racist!

Heh. Toure’ Whaddadouche

Key West Reader on November 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM

“obama holds pressers to find out what’s going on, not to tell you” — Leno, last night

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM

reality based community

rob verdi on November 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Allah – palate cleanser should have been Beck’s 20+minute evisceration of Kirsten Powers from this morning.

It’s so over the top, vindictive and condescending, you can actually begin to piece together who the people were that helped nudge him off FNC.

Special Report, Greta and Shep seem to be the main culprits

budfox on November 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

The pubs gerrymandered 30 of the 50 states. How else could they win those Governor races.

Huh?
.
.
Huh?

CWchangedhisNicagain on November 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

And this…

OR is somehow a red state now.

mankai on November 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

I initially chalked this up to an affirmative action education where skin color matters more than, you know, learning stuff. But then I saw the MSDNC logo and all was clear.

Happy Nomad on November 14, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Gerrymandering represents the Will of the People when Libtards get elected, but when Republicans get elected it’s racist and unfair.

Got it!

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 14, 2013 at 7:19 PM

I thought Gerry Mander played the Beaver on Leave it to Beaver.

Flange on November 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM

No, Gerry Mander was the leader of Gerry and The Pacemakers. “Ferry ‘Cross the Mersey”, anyone?

Del Dolemonte on November 14, 2013 at 7:19 PM

“Damn that Ohio River! I mean it was ok during the Underground Railroad times, but it really needs to go away.” -Töûřé

Glenn Jericho on November 14, 2013 at 7:22 PM

NEBLETT: And then Dianne Feinstein who other folks like Jimmy Williams and Steve Kornacki who understand this much better, Sen. Feinstein sometimes just goes to the right and just, you know, bucks her party from time to time. So she’s sort of an outlier in this situation.

ABBY HUNTSMAN, CO-HOST: So you’re saying the Democrats aren’t all feeling concerned about ObamaCare controlling the narrative come election?

NEBLETT: I don’t see blue state Democrats, a Barbara Boxer, a Elizabeth Warren, et cetera, Chuck Schumer, saying, we’re concerned about what this is going to do in our state. I’m seeing red state Democrats who are concerned about what it’s going to do to them in a state where folks are saying, “We already don’t like ObamaCare.”

Does Toure understand that both Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer are from the same blue state, California?

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:23 PM

I guess we’ll have to wait until tomorrow for Toure to explain how Republicans gerrymandered state lines in order to put the fear of voters into Democratic senators.

Dusty on November 14, 2013 at 7:24 PM

The Caller also criticized Touré’s use of a hoaxed hate crime at Emory as a rationale for a list of demands against the university, even after the crime’s ostensible target, Sabrina Collins, admitted that her accusations were a hoax of her creation. Touré defended The Fire This Time as “an important black voice on campus” and “a form of community building.”

He’s a racist pig… Which he disguises by calling anyone who disagrees with a racist.

Standard MSNBC fare.

mankai on November 14, 2013 at 7:24 PM

In the future we’ll look back on this and laugh….

But not as much as I’m laughing now.

Another of the 50 Shades of Maroon.

ajacksonian on November 14, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Dumb Trayvon gonna be a dumb Trayvon…

JohnGalt23 on November 14, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Does Toure understand that both Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer are from the same blue state, California?

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Well, if what he said can be interpreted in any way… did he just lump NY and MA in as red states? It’s so hard to tell when someone is not only out of touch with this reality, but is living in his own personal reality that can’t even get in touch with his own personal Idaho.

ajacksonian on November 14, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Well, that was a minute thirty-nine of pure inanity.

BKeyser on November 14, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Tourgéy

WhatSlushfund on November 14, 2013 at 7:35 PM

“Damn that Ohio River! I mean it was ok during the Underground Railroad times, but it really needs to go away.” -Töûřé

Glenn Jericho on November 14, 2013 at 7:22 PM

And why are Texas Senators only elected by people north of the Rio Grande?

Happy Nomad on November 14, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Well, that was a minute thirty-nine of pure inanity.

BKeyser on November 14, 2013 at 7:28 PM

I kept waiting for one of the other members of the brain trust to jump in and help him out. Apparently, they didn’t know what gerrymander means either.

Happy Nomad on November 14, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Meme for tomorrow:

Ooooooh… You just stepped in a pile of ‘Toure! Wipe that off!

Key West Reader on November 14, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Toure-tte’s Syndrome: The sufferer is afflicted with a uncontrollable compulsion to mouth gibberish, falsehoods, and contorted arguments of circular logic in furtherance of a sociological goal, pathological in origin, that presents as an idee fixe.

M240H on November 14, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Does Toure understand that both Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer are from the same blue state, California?
Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:23 PM

No biggie. Feinstein was ‘gerrymandered’ while Boxer wasn’t. A common overlook.

anuts on November 14, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Living in a gerrymandered world
And I am a gerrymandered girl
You know that we are living in a gerrymandered world
And I am a gerrymandered girl

Marcola on November 14, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Allah – palate cleanser should have been Beck’s 20+minute evisceration of Kirsten Powers from this morning.

It’s so over the top, vindictive and condescending, you can actually begin to piece together who the people were that helped nudge him off FNC.

Special Report, Greta and Shep seem to be the main culprits

budfox on November 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Got a link?

Murphy9 on November 14, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Is is sad that “the smart one” on this show is that skank “Krystal Ball” who took those infamous photos a few years ago?

tetriskid on November 14, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Here’s what I want to know, though: What was he trying to say?

I’ll try: Perhaps he meant that the reason Democratic Senators are banging the drum while Democratic House members are quiet is because the latter are gerrymandered (safe) and the former aren’t. So House members can play to the extremes while Senators often play to the center, which, right now, is turning against the ACA.

I’m not saying he’s successfully saying that, just that he might be trying to do so….

calbear on November 14, 2013 at 7:43 PM

I think it’s disrespectful to call someone by their first name. His full name is Touré Neblett.

myiq2xu on November 14, 2013 at 7:43 PM

I’ll respectfully call him Crazy.

viking01 on November 14, 2013 at 7:49 PM

The reason that Democrats win any districts outside of the cities is that they are gerrymandered. If Congressional districts were not allowed to mix chunks of cities into rural and suburban districts, Republicans would have two thirds of the House.

Count to 10 on November 14, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Toure: Let’s face it…

Toure: Let’s face it, the left’s answer to David Duke.

petefrt on November 14, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Don’t blame gerrymandering. Both parties do it when they have the chance. But this Neblett dude is too dumb to recognize what AP pointed out. I wonder how many lefty viewers even caught that senators can’t be gerrymandered, nor can the President.

flataffect on November 14, 2013 at 7:55 PM

It’s always the light skinned blacks who are the most militant. Over compensation.

The Notorious G.O.P on November 14, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Toure is a typical liberal, anti-white racist who loves playing the race card.

bluegill on November 14, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Whatever. The whole thing is raciss.

Mason on November 14, 2013 at 7:58 PM

lostmotherland = Touré

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Is that for real? Did lostdouche really say gerrymandering was the reason Cruz got elected?? Oh lord I knew libs were stupid but that is priceless.

The Notorious G.O.P on November 14, 2013 at 7:59 PM

What was he trying to say?

Racism!

HB3 on November 14, 2013 at 7:59 PM

So Touré is an idiot? Not exactly news.

GOPRanknFile on November 14, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Toure: Let’s face it, red-state Senate Dems criticize ObamaCare because we live in a gerrymandered world if Øbama had a son he’d really look like me…

.
Fixed for everything…

ExpressoBold on November 14, 2013 at 8:07 PM

I’d never heard of Toure’ before. It sounded like a syndrome. But according to Wikipedia, he’s an “American writer, music journalist, cultural critic, and television personality.” Nothing there about political punditry. Obviously he’s not a pundit on anything except spouting off.

flataffect on November 14, 2013 at 8:09 PM

“So … what on earth is Toure talking about? Dude?”

My take away was that he doesn’t understand math. I think he thinks that they can lose five or six seats and still control the Senate because the (D)-(R) split is basically 55-45. I think he feels they can lose up to nine seats, cause math ain’t his strong suit.

lowandslow on November 14, 2013 at 8:10 PM

MSNBC is the crack-pipe of cable.

…..without the charm of the Trainwreck Mayor of Toronto.

PappyD61 on November 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

lostmotherland = Touré

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Is that for real? Did lostdouche really say gerrymandering was the reason Cruz got elected?? Oh lord I knew libs were stupid but that is priceless.

The Notorious G.O.P on November 14, 2013 at 7:59 PM

100% true. Click on the link. I have the link to that thread on my blog.

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 8:17 PM

I guess they don’t teach civics at Emory.

John Deaux on November 14, 2013 at 8:25 PM

A mind is a terrible thing to lose. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is.

VorDaj on November 14, 2013 at 8:27 PM

I guess they don’t teach civics at Emory.

John Deaux on November 14, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Not to those with a potted plant IQ.

VorDaj on November 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM

This Toure’ person certainly is disposable, now isn’t me mimsey?

/overheard on John Kerry’s Yacht. With Obama nodding in approval.

Sad, Really ’tis. Quite sad, indeed

Key West Reader on November 14, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Here’s what I want to know, though: What was he trying to say?

Touré is a LIV pundit. MMfA and the DNC say ‘gerrymandering’ and Touré – like our own lostmotherland – just gulps the Kook-Aid and spouts the party line…even if it is insane.

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Kind of like when Al Sharpie says “you’re taking me out of contecks”. He doesn’t know what it means, only that it’s a useful comeback.

slickwillie2001 on November 14, 2013 at 8:30 PM

I guess they don’t teach civics at Emory.

John Deaux on November 14, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Or ethics. He trumped up a fake hate crime while at Emory. This man is clearly the next Al Sharpton.

blammm on November 14, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Hey, Touré …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bobp5OHVsWY

Pork-Chop on November 14, 2013 at 9:03 PM

I like the guy on Twitter who said, “Touré is a dummé”

Sekhmet on November 14, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I want to know exactly how any of the “57″ states were gerrymandered for their Senate representation.

Oh wait…it isn’t just Math that is hard for Liberals, is it?

ProfShadow on November 14, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Without gerrymandering, the Congressional Black Caucus would cease to exist. Liberal white voters will never vote for black Congressional candidates.

BuckeyeSam on November 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM

The Idiot Touré Neblett ™ conveniently also forgets that Dems were in charge when the last set of maps were drawn for legislative districts.

Guess he’s still trying out for the position of Propaganda Minister in the Glorious Future Obamatopia.

dissent555 on November 14, 2013 at 10:40 PM

…or he could think that “gerrymandered” is a synonym for “partisan” or “divided.” That’s the easiest explanation.

This man is clearly the next Al Sharpton.

He’s closer to Alec Baldwin. I was listening to a short story collection on the way home today, when I was shocked that the story I’d just heard was written by — guess who? — Toure. It wasn’t bad. He’s just spun his writing career into spots at MSNBC, where, unlike fiction writing, he seems to be out of his depth.

calbear on November 14, 2013 at 10:40 PM

“Gerrymandered” is just a word that dems have appropriated into their talking points, it doesn’t matter if it applies to what they are talking about or not.

Dollayo on November 14, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Well everyone knows the State boundaries were originally drawn by ‘Tea-Party Wacko-Bird Rethuglicans’ to suppress the gehy vote.

/

heretic on November 14, 2013 at 11:24 PM

This guy is a certified cretin.

rplat on November 15, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Someone should tell him that too much mascara makes him look cheap.

NoPain on November 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM

bell curve

Murphy9 on November 15, 2013 at 9:40 AM

If Landrieu could convince New Orleans to secede from Louisiana, she could be elected Senator from New Orleans, and her vote would cancel out the Republican elected from North Louisiana.

Steve Z on November 15, 2013 at 10:30 AM

And, yet, someone pays this guy.

TimBuk3 on November 15, 2013 at 11:02 AM

In other words we get to go back to Tourette’s favorite word RACISTS!

neyney on November 15, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Is Toure just too dim to know that Senate seats are not affected by gerrymandering? US Senate seats are statewide offices.

paulus1 on November 15, 2013 at 3:54 PM