Scapegoated insurers fire back at Obama over “administrative fix”: You’re not pinning this ObamaCare mess on us

posted at 2:51 pm on November 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Don’t cry for these people, needless to say. They helped make ObamaCare happen. They were only too happy to see healthy young adults forced into buying their product by a constitutionally dubious mandate and to gouge healthy middle-class people with the new, more expensive plans required by the exchanges. They wouldn’t have partnered with the White House if this wasn’t a payday for them. But now they’re screwed twice over: Not only are Democrats trying to make them the fall guy for the cancellations, they’re looking at their payday melting down into red ink if they take Obama’s “advice” and re-create the old risk pool. Oh well. No honor among thieves.

They’re not going to take it lying down. An industry insider told BuzzFeed earlier of the White House’s “fix,” “This doesn’t change anything other than force insurers to be the political flack jackets for the administration.” And within the past hour, the president of America’s Health Insurance Plans released this statement:

“Making sure consumers have secure, affordable coverage is health plans’ top priority. The only reason consumers are getting notices about their current coverage changing is because the ACA requires all policies to cover a broad range of benefits that go beyond what many people choose to purchase today.

“Changing the rules after health plans have already met the requirements of the law could destabilize the market and result in higher premiums for consumers. Premiums have already been set for next year based on an assumption of when consumers will be transitioning to the new marketplace. If now fewer younger and healthier people choose to purchase coverage in the exchange, premiums will increase and there will be fewer choices for consumers. Additional steps must be taken to stabilize the marketplace and mitigate the adverse impact on consumers.”

There’s a reason un-canceling canceled plans started out as a GOP idea: It’s really bad for ObamaCare. There’s no policy upside for Democrats in supporting the idea; it’s pure political CYA, and insanely myopic in that it’ll only compound their political problem next year if AHIP’s prediction is borne out and exchange plans become even more expensive. In that sense, it’s an analog to HHS refusing to bring in outside contractors who might have improved Healthcare.gov before launch for fear that Republicans might subpoena them and the White House would be politically embarrassed. The political embarrassment they’ve suffered from the website meltdown is far worse than the embarrassment they would have suffered from discouraging chatter before the site debuted. How strange that Democrats would have taken such a long view of health-care reform in 2010, risking their majority in the House to pass it, when now they wet their pants at the first signs of trouble during implementation.

A little more insurance-industry anger from David Steinberg at PJM:

This [is] a new insanity.

I do not know how the insurance carriers and federal government are going to be dealing with this. First, many states require a 60-day notice of a change in plan or a cancellation. It’s November 15! How can they comply with this new element of federal law, and with their state laws?

Second, do they really think carriers are going to be willing to recreate the old plans, while also being mandated to offer the new ones that comply with the exchanges? I have a large number of clients, small to medium-sized businesses, who would much rather renew their old policies on 12/1 than sign up with the newly mandated exchange policies. Everyone is going to want the old ones! You really expect the insurance carriers to willingly deal with the financial loss and legal headaches of switching back?

It is going to be very difficult for carriers to honor this.

Of course it’s going to be difficult. That’s the point — the White House’s hope, I’m sure, is that most insurers will ignore the “fix” and refuse to un-cancel any plans. That would eliminate the extra risk of adverse selection to the exchanges and give O the scapegoat he’s looking for. If insurers really want to screw him, they’ll scramble to do just what he said: Un-cancel the plans, just as the president requested, and then lay the resulting premium hikes next fall squarely at his feet, just in time for the midterms. Problem is, that means heavy losses for them potentially; as much as they’d like to retaliate, it might end up as a kamikaze mission. On the other hand, my pal Karl is urging me and other righties on Twitter not to get caught up too much in a war between Obama and insurers. That’s exactly what the White House wants, after all. The more O can make it look like he’s on the side of the people, with the big bad insurance companies treating him as a sworn enemy, the more it’ll mitigate the political damage he’s suffered from this. He’s the guy who got reelected last year as a champion of the middle class, remember? He’d never do something that roundly screws middle-income people in the name of propping up some new Rube-Goldberg-esque redistribution scheme he’s concocted. That’s the insurers’ fault.

That reminds me, though: I think Rich Lowry cut to the heart of why this has become so politically dangerous to O. It’s harder for Democrats to hide the football this time.

The great engine of the welfare state is the hidden cost. Usually, the costs of a new program or regulation are too diffuse or distant to matter much politically in comparison to the promise of a direct benefit. This time, the costs aren’t hidden. They are immediate and concrete in the canceled policies and the higher premiums, and they are making the politics of Obamacare toxic.

When otherwise loyal Democrats are on TV seething over being lied to about what’s obviously a subsidization scheme, you know things have gone badly wrong with the usual M.O. On that note, via RCP, here’s Obama architect Jon Gruber lamenting the “discrimination” faced by sick people in the insurance industry compared to what the “genetic lottery winners” face. O could have sold ObamaCare that way, as a straightforward attempt to generate extra revenue that’ll be used to help the sick pay for their care; in a sane world, rather than push some mind-bendingly complicated insurance-industry rework, he would have simply proposed a tax to cover the cost of that care and let the political chips fall as they may. But, Obama being Obama, he wanted to sell his program as something that everyone would benefit from, even the suckers who are now being gouged in order to provide the dollars to pay for preexisting conditions. That’s how “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan” happened. And that’s why today’s “fix” is happening now.

Update: A new statement from the National Association of Insurance Commissioners. Iceberg, straight ahead:

For three years, state insurance regulators have been working to adapt to the Affordable Care Act in a way that best meets the needs of consumers in each state. We have been particularly concerned about the way the reforms would impact premiums, the solvency of insurance companies, and the overall health of the marketplace. The NAIC has been clear from the beginning that allowing insurers to have different rules for different policies would be detrimental to the overall market and result in higher premiums.

We have expressed these concerns with the Administration and are concerned by the President’s announcement today that the federal government would use its “enforcement discretion” to delay enforcement of the ACA’s market reforms in 2014 for plans that are currently in effect. This decision continues different rules for different policies and threatens to undermine the new market, and may lead to higher premiums and market disruptions in 2014 and beyond.

In addition, it is unclear how, as a practical matter, the changes proposed today by the President can be put into effect. In many states, cancellation notices have already gone out to policyholders and rates and plans have already been approved for 2014. Changing the rules through administrative action at this late date creates uncertainty and may not address the underlying issues. We look forward to learning more details of this policy change and about how the administration proposes that regulators and insurers make this work for all consumers.


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Adjoran on November 14, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Agree completely.

People, they WANT you to hate the insurers and every other company just trying to survive in their brave new world.

This is the kill capitalism playbook. Don’t go along.

Missy on November 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Missy on November 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

cajunpatriot on November 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Singled out for your review is the part of my open letter that really SHOULD be striking fear into the hearts of the publicly held health insurance companies.

I have worked at the corporate level of a major multi-national firm.

Any proposals I made had to be justified on how they would directly benefit the shareholders.

Any problems I had … those were MY problems – NOT the shareholders’s problems.

When Obamacare is REPEALED, the insurance executives are going to have to FIX the problems.

Unless they are mind boggling stupid, they are already working on the AFTER repeal solutions.

This advice is offered as an enouragement to FOCUS on your fiduciary responsibilities to your shareholders. The shareholders are NOT interested in your WHINING to the media. The shareholders are only interested in the share price and the dividends they receive.

The shareholders will ONLY make sure you are fired and tossed overboard without the usual “golden” parachutes.

PolAgnostic on November 14, 2013 at 3:53 PM

.
And on the single payer nonsense currenlty being peddled

“Single payer” is going to disappear as a bogeyman either in the near term or no later than next October. People have woken up to the fact that under Obamacare,

“You can’t keep your doctor.” and are ROYALLY pissed off.

Single payer translates into “You can’t see ANY doctor for 3 – 6 months.”

Any politician trying to sell that load of BS is going to end up wearing the latest in tar and feathers.

PolAgnostic on November 14, 2013 at 2:11 AM

PolAgnostic on November 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Awesome first paragraph AP!!

8 Obamacare threads just today!!

Look at it this way, C.C. disappeared:-)

bluefox on November 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Cray-Cray Nancy Pelosi Starts Giggling About Suspenders During

J_Crater on November 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Oh my god.
Bat.Sh!t.Crazy.

Suspenders or a belt? WTF was she talking about?

She needs Spanx on her head.

Brat on November 14, 2013 at 4:33 PM

but the problemis that when these insurance companies go out of business,it is this government which will end up filling that vacuumn
:(

burrata on November 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Doctors dealing directly with patients, and 70% lower costs is what awaits us when ACA goes down the crapper and the insurance companies go out of business…

PatriotRider on November 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM

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davidk on November 14, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Cray-Cray Nancy Pelosi Starts Giggling About Suspenders During

J_Crater on November 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Quick…someone throw a bucket of water or a house on this witch.

timberline on November 14, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Drunk again? Getting high on her own wine supply?

slickwillie2001 on November 14, 2013 at 4:39 PM

So, here, the GOP needs to find a way to wave goodbye.

BuckeyeSam on November 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM

They should have learned that lesson before this. But I guess Ron Johnson & Fred Upton missed that class. Actually, quite a few of the R’s did too.

bluefox on November 14, 2013 at 4:39 PM

PolAgnostic on November 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Thanks for your clarification. I’m sure you’re right that insurers are working on what to do post-repeal.

But we need them to be pushing back now, as well. They can’t be just going along with this garbage. Hell, he’ll probably threaten them with securities fraud prosecution at some point because they weren’t honest with shareholders – when it was the uncertainty caused by his administration that made it impossible for them to be honest.

I want these companies healthy enough to survive this disaster. The nation depends upon it.

Missy on November 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Really it baffles me, and convinces me that the crazy talkers on the Right have been right all along.

Fleuries on November 14, 2013 at 4:02 PM

That’s not unusual, just difficult to get many to admit.

slickwillie2001 on November 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM

You guys think Obama is stupid? This is classic Cloward-Pivin. The system, already overloaded, is getting another load thanks to Obama. If this doesn’t collapse things in the insurance industry – making single payer a foregone conclusion – then nothing will.

This is not a knee-jerk reaction to people losing their health coverage. This is a planned attack on the health care industry in general and health insurers in particular, and what happened today is just the latest salvo. Not a shot across the bow, but a punch to the gut.

Color me surprised if the law ever gets repealed.

falcon on November 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

The only fix is in Canada.

Dhuka on November 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

If a company goes under after backing all of this, I’m fine with it.

The small companies that are getting pounded by this, I do feel sorry for them but there is no remedy to get them through: that is what got us in such a mess in the first place with Obama, trying to save companies via Too Big To Fail.

A capitalist system expects there to be winners and losers, and going out of business is opening up part of the economy to more competition. More competition and fresh blood keeps the entire system going and helps to lower costs over time. Ever since the M&Ms were put in place the cost of health care has gone up steadily, outpacing inflation. That is due to the government not being willing to pay its full share for those it ‘covers’. That causes cost-shifting and prices need to go up for doing that… beyond the overhead that government imposes which also has to get absorbed into the system as compliance with regulations is not free.

How about enforcing contracts? That is what ‘health insurance’ is, after all, a contract. Strict enforcement of what companies agree to do and lawsuits if they don’t means that bad actors soon find themselves with huge price tags and with the cost of its wrong-doing spread to its customers via higher prices, thus offering space for more thrifty and accountable companies to start wooing customers away.

Ask yourself this: if Medicare and Medicaid had to be passed today, with everyone seeing what happens at the end of the road, would they have a chance of passing? This question is theoretical for the moment, but may become a very real one as people start to take a long, hard look at what it is, exactly, they are getting from government and what they can actually afford to do. Applications to these plans should not be forced by anyone: anyone willing to pay for ‘health insurance’ at their age range and with their conditions should be able to do so and NOT be forced into any set of plans or any set of care by any government.

We used to have a strong charitable caregiving system in the Nation, run by religious establishments and charities. Before even the M&Ms no one was dying in the streets and, strangely enough, the elder could find affordable care. And that ‘no one dying in the streets’ is the metric to use as things like the Spanish Flu actually make that the point when a problem has progressed to where some intervention by at least State and local governments is MANDATORY. I can’t picture what would happen, today, with so few hospital beds run by charitable institutions if we had a replay of the Spanish Flu today. All of this government help has marginalized such institutions and a number of them have been bought out by for-profit concerns that closed them down as the cost of regulations made charity nearly impossible to render.

As a Nation we are one true health crisis away from people dead in the streets. That is because we wanted to be ‘nice’ to people via government. By no longer having reliable lower level systems to handle the poor, we no longer have the systems available to take the overflow of patients with a re-run of a Spanish Flu or modern form of plague.

Nothing you do at the federal level will make this better or get a more flexible and adaptable system in place. That is because it requires a ground-up understanding of communities and demographics which we are now having our federal government show us it is CLUELESS ABOUT.

Yeah, Obamacare is asinine and can’t be done even in theory.

What we were doing before that is trying to ‘help’ but making our system more fragile, not more robust. When you are no longer doing the necessary things to survive then, at some point, you will stop surviving. Stop trying to have government pick up the work and commitment that you need to be putting forward at least with contributions to help the poor, the elderly and those with intractable conditions. If you want Obamacare gone and America to be a better place, then it is YOU who has to be willing to step into the breech and help the less fortunate.

You want it gone?

Prove it in the way you live and what you do in life. And stop thinking of government as a solution to everything because it isn’t. If it were we would be in a state of grace right now, not a point of despair.

ajacksonian on November 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

We look forward to learning more details of this policy change and about how the administration proposes that regulators and insurers make this work for all consumers.

Evidently King Barack expects that executive fiat trumps any “law”.

Own it Democrats! You WANTED it! You GOT it! As MSNBC likes to say “Lean Forward”………….AND BEND OVER!

GarandFan on November 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Sources: Obama rejected ‘perfect’ replacement for Kathleen Sebelius

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2539178#.UoU0aVYuDOk.twitter

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Obama: ObamaCare has been law for over 3 years. Stop trying to change that.

Counter-point: The 2nd Amendment has been law for over 200 years. Stop trying to change that.

JetBlast on November 14, 2013 at 4:47 PM

You guys think Obama is stupid? This is classic Cloward-Pivin. The system, already overloaded, is getting another load thanks to Obama. If this doesn’t collapse things in the insurance industry – making single payer a foregone conclusion – then nothing will.

This is not a knee-jerk reaction to people losing their health coverage. This is a planned attack on the health care industry in general and health insurers in particular, and what happened today is just the latest salvo. Not a shot across the bow, but a punch to the gut.

Color me surprised if the law ever gets repealed.

falcon on November 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

He can be BOTH stupid, and a radical Marxist that wants to Cloward-Piven us into a socialist revolution. The two are not mutually exclusive.

slickwillie2001 on November 14, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Doctors dealing directly with patients, and 70% lower costs is what awaits us when ACA goes down the crapper and the insurance companies go out of business…

PatriotRider on November 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM

I wish and hope and pray that you are right,
but the freeloading thug and his goons will never let this happen.
Plus, there are all those multi-generational food stamp / welfare parasites.
Bit I still have hope for a better future for the rest of us !

burrata on November 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM

If it weren’t for the Americans being harmed by this fiasco, it would be completely gratifying to watch the insurance industry, which got in bed with Obama to pass Obamacare, and the Obama administration and their fellow Democrat political class members savage one another.

thatsafactjack on November 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Agree with you on that Jackie. I am fortunate to not be affected yet as I am still able to be on my husband’s employer provided policy. Although the rate did increase slightly, we are able to handle the extra cost. I feel bad for some of our friends who have lost coverage but am schadenfreuding on the 0bama/Dem meltdown.

Brat on November 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM

You guys think Obama is stupid?

Yes. He’s mind-numbingly moronic.

This is classic Cloward-Pivin. The system, already overloaded, is getting another load thanks to Obama. If this doesn’t collapse things in the insurance industry – making single payer a foregone conclusion – then nothing will.

falcon on November 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

None of that indicates that Barky can count past 20. Destruction is something that even the most inept, incompetent, moronic person can do. That’s the beauty of destruction – it’s a field open to anyone.

Barky is a malevolent retard who has no opposition to stop him from anything. The Vichy Republicans refuse to describe him as the nasty, anti-American moron that he is (bent on our destruction) and they have helped him every chance they’ve had. They attack the Tea Party to guard him and treat him with respect that he doesn’t come close to deserving while holding back on the ful range of contempt that he has so richly earned – about the only thing Barky ever earned in his pathetic, useless, 84 IQ life.

Cloward-Piven is not a tactic that requires any genius. It doesn’t even take normal intelligence to pull it off. It takes an appeasing “opposition” that is scared to say anything, lest they be called “raaaacists!!!” or something similar.

The sad fact (which history will record) is that America was taken down and killed by a barely-functional near retard who wasn’t even Constitutionally eligible for the position he used to kill America off. This will be one of the sickest jokes of history and will serve as a cautionary tale millenia into the future.

Yes. Barky is stupid. He has the mathematical sophistication of a slow 8th grader – if that – and his command of English isn’t much better. If he were held to the standards of a normal person he’d still be trying to get out of junior high school. But he has been successful at killing America because he was given the power to do so. Any 3 year old can run the most advanced nuclear aircraft carrier aground … if the crew follows his orders, no matter how insane or stupid they are. Destruction is easy.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 14, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Remember.. A animal is most dangerous when cornered..

TEXASLEGAL on November 14, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Vote for Obama they said…

…Hope and Change they said…

Murphy9 on November 14, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Brat on November 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Good afternoon, Brat. :)

I’m deeply concerned for the people harmed by Obamacare. Not only do they risk, through not fault of their own, finding themselves without healthcare insurance should they fall ill or suffer an accident on or after January 1st, they are also being subjected to terrible and unnecessary stress and uncertainty.

Obama is responsible for this. In his blind pursuit of his ‘legacy’ and his ‘signature achievement’ he’s proven himself willing to disregard the law, to encourage others to disregard the law, and has put millions of working Americans at risk to serve his own ends. His fellow Democrats, all members of the political class and their donors, share responsibility for this, as do all those who voted for them.

I believe Obamacare must be REPEALED and replaced with a fair free market insurance market that will actually bring the cost of healthcare insurance down as well as the actual cost of healthcare services. But I also strongly believe that Obama should be held responsible, along with Pelosi and Reid, and Obama should be impeached for proving that he has no regard for the law in violating his mandated duty to enforce the law, for violating the separation of powers as mandated in the constitution, and for recklessly endangering the health and lives of the American people.

thatsafactjack on November 14, 2013 at 5:07 PM

We now know who lostmotherland is…

In response to the question ‘How do you think Ted Cruz became a Senator?’ one of Hot Air’s resident Progtard ‘scholars’ responded:

‘Gerrymandering.’

- lostmotherland on October 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM

So the State of Texas, IN ITS FVCKING ENTIRETY, is gerrymandered?

Gerrymandering only factors into House seats and state/local districts. And, of course, it is not limited to one party


MSNBC’s Touré: Red-State Senators in ‘Gerrymandered’ District

lostmotherland = Touré

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Squeal pigs, squeal. May obama destroy you all.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 4:25 PM

He’s trying his best. btw, what makes you think that you’ll be spared idiot?

cajunpatriot on November 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Forgive me if I view *all* of this as simply being “The Plan”.

Obamacare isn’t the goal, it’s a necessary step towards the prize.

Destruction of the health insurance industry isn’t a potential unintended consequence Obama would like to avoid – it’s a necessary step towards the prize.

Stripping citizens of their ability to deal with their healthcare in their own way isn’t a ‘fumble’ – it’s a necessary step towards the prize.

The ‘death spiral’, and actions taken by Obama et al that can be seen in advance to most likely accelerate that ‘death spiral’ are not errors in judgment – simply more necessary steps towards the prize.

Isn’t it curious – and so coincidental – that all of this works together at every turn to yield a higher probability that ‘single payer’ will be the result of every ‘fumble’, ‘whoopsie’, ‘my bad’, ‘fixing it, really’, exemption/exception/delay… ?

Nah – neither curious nor coincidental.

Midas on November 14, 2013 at 5:10 PM

cajunpatriot on November 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Schadenfreude is no idiot, neither is he a troll. His comment was directed at the LEFT.

thatsafactjack on November 14, 2013 at 5:11 PM

… and for those that suggest this is all happening too fast to be ‘the plan’… if you were going to undertake something this massive and an upheaval so widespread – better to do it ‘all at once’ and quickly, or let it languish and let the bitterness fester over a matter of years?

They’re ripping the bandage off quickly rather than slowly, I think.

Midas on November 14, 2013 at 5:12 PM

This guy lives in “never, never land”. He can’t simply change the law. All he’s doing is delaying enforcement of the law to get through the mid-terms. At the end of a year we’ll be right back where we were. The insurance companies are still bound to abide by the law that is written. He’s turning this entire country into phony make-believe world.

rplat on November 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM

CNN “analyst” just said that O’bama’s press conference was “a rolling train wreck.”

Del Dolemonte on November 14, 2013 at 5:20 PM

So, ObamaCare has leaks.

Obama thinking a election is needed fails to call a plumber to fix the leak and attempts to fix the leak himself and when the water gets up to his chin he will understand better. But when he calls on Reid and Pelosi for a life preserver they will hang on to the only ones they have and save themselves.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 14, 2013 at 5:22 PM

New President Obama White House song.

“Only the lonely”

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 14, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Heads-up: Wolfman Blitz is going to have a “debate” on O’liarcare after the break between Michelle Bachmann and…The Forehead.

Del Dolemonte on November 14, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Really it baffles me, and convinces me that the crazy talkers on the Right have been right all along.

Fleuries on November 14, 2013 at 4:02 PM

There is a similar dynamic between parents and children. From birth to early teens, your parents are infallible. Then something happens; they are struck dumb, even retarded to a large degree. Then, in your late 20′s – early 30′s, a miracle occurs. Your parents bounce back, and from that point forward the older you get, the smarter your parents become.

BobMbx on November 14, 2013 at 5:27 PM

The ‘death spiral’, and actions taken by Obama et al that can be seen in advance to most likely accelerate that ‘death spiral’ are not errors in judgment – simply more necessary steps towards the prize.

Midas on November 14, 2013 at 5:10 PM

I don’t disagree with that – but the aspect that is missing is that Obama and the other progressive fascists needed Obamacare to somewhat work for a few years before it finally had it’s crisis.

Working for several (5-10 years minimum) would allow them to make the case that government control fundamentally worked, but some other issue caused Obamacare to start to fail…think of it as setting the ‘new normal’. With 5-10 years of ‘working’, the argument can be made that you don’t scrap or toss out something that works, you ‘improve’ on it – you know, ‘Lean Forward’.

They suspected that they were going to have problems with this – back in 2010 when they first started projecting that within the individual and employer mandate, about 93 million would lose their plan.

They thought they could mask this over – particularly in the wake of the 1 year delay in the employer mandate. They thought that they could get away with the lies, pretty much just as they had done previously with so many other lies. They were confident that when it launched, it would generally work, and they could spin the higher premiums, the worse coverages, and network limitations as impacting ‘just a few’.

But when the website imploded, shortly followed by 5M and more getting cancellations, the lies, spin, and obfuscation lost credibility. That started an avalanche of questions into the program, the details, and the lies. Suddenly, everything the GOP had been saying since 2010 turned out to be right.

Not only has Obama’s credibility taken a beating, but more importantly to the progressive fascists, their agenda and vision has taken a huge credibility beating. For too many, it now looks like the government can’t do big things or ensure ‘fairness’ or ‘justice’.

What Obama and his allies are trying to do is salve what credibility they can so the entire agenda / vision is tarred with Obamacare.

Athos on November 14, 2013 at 5:27 PM

thatsafactjack on November 14, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Hey Jackie.

Totally agree with you again on all points. But what we want to happen may never come to fruition due to the liberal political climate (leftists, low info, and the gimme gimme gimmes who brought us Obama) and republican impotence.

Repeal, maybe. Impeach, never. Backlash against Dems in 2014, I hope so.

I feel stressed for all of my fellow Americans who are being subjected to the fallout of unconstitutional O’care.

Brat on November 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Who Blowed Up the Best Health Care Delivery System on Earth?

Obama. Yeah, buddy… it’s all on you. Step down before you’re thrown out on your stupid skinny azz. Fail.

Key West Reader on November 14, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Big Insurance….

The New BIG OIL!

Another Drew on November 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM

OBAMA: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan . . . for one more year! And if the insurance company decides it can afford to reconstitute your old plan and re-offer it to you!! If they don’t, we can all blame the evil insurance company!”

TarheelBen on November 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM

The fact that he came out with this administrative mandate saying he can fix this without even talking to the insurance companies to see how or if it could even be implemented is proof he is playing the blame game. He can’t really fix this because he has absolutely no allies to work with.

Congress needs to step in at this point and repeal this horrible program and meet with the private sector who might be able to come up with something if government were to get the hell out of the way. This is too serious a situation to play politics with.

lea on November 14, 2013 at 5:45 PM

We need Governor Fatty Arbuckle out there to “work with Democrats” and “solve problems”.

vilebody on November 14, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Brat on November 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Yes… sadly, impeachment is probably out of our reach… since it took our gutless GOPe this long just to introduce a resolution to try and impeach Holder over “Fast and Furious” and various other infractions of the law. Mind you, they haven’t passed it, yet, much less begun proceedings. This resolution is just to lay down a marker so they can say… ‘well… we thought about it’.

I’m even doubtful that the GOPe will allow REPEAL. They’ve said repeatedly that there are ‘elements’ of Obamacare that they like… and you’ll note they’ve exempted themselves from those ‘elements’… like the IPAB and QARY.

thatsafactjack on November 14, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Heads-up: Wolfman Blitz is going to have a “debate” on O’liarcare after the break between Michelle Bachmann and…The Forehead.

Del Dolemonte on November 14, 2013 at 5:24 PM

She is doing well against the two Obama lap dogs.

Brat on November 14, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Allahpundit says: ‘On the other hand, my pal Karl is urging me (Allahpundit) and *other righties*…’ What? You think you’re on the right & say so, yourself, Allahpundit? Ha…

ABLOGMAN on November 14, 2013 at 6:02 PM

We look forward to learning more details of this policy change and about how the administration proposes that regulators and insurers make this work for all consumers

Money shot delivered!

Koa on November 14, 2013 at 6:16 PM

“Single payer” is going to disappear as a bogeyman either in the near term or no later than next October. People have woken up to the fact that under Obamacare,

“You can’t keep your doctor.” and are ROYALLY pissed off.

Single payer translates into “You can’t see ANY doctor for 3 – 6 months.”

Any politician trying to sell that load of BS is going to end up wearing the latest in tar and feathers.

PolAgnostic on November 14, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Completely true. Now…..

Step back. Look across the sea of stupid and see who and what we are dealing with.

98ZJUSMC on November 14, 2013 at 6:36 PM

“obama holds pressers to find out what’s going on, not to tell you” — Leno, last night

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

This is the first instance where you will actually see Obama come unglued. When challenged openly, about the Galactically stupid idea his signature achievement is, let alone the illegality of his ad-hoc implementation of said bad idea…you will see, everyone will see…the true national socialist in this jackass shine like the sun. Sh*t is about to get very, very real. And I hope everyone is well-stocked. Welcome to the beginning of the end of current America

a5minmajor on November 14, 2013 at 7:27 PM

cajunpatriot on November 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Schadenfreude is no idiot, neither is he a troll. His comment was directed at the LEFT.

thatsafactjack on November 14, 2013 at 5:11 PM

really it would be ok to apologize.. Shadenfreude is up my list as well

MrMoe on November 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM

IMPEACH Obama/Soetro.

Assuming that he really didn’t tell a BIG lie, then he has clearly demonstrated that he lacked sufficient understanding of his #1 Policy objective, Obamacare. Like the DemoRats in Congress, he failed to read/understand the bill before he approved and signed it. He misunderstood his signature plan so much that he consistently and insistently made serious misrepresentations to American citizens over a three year period which has led, in part, to his re-election through misrepresentation. Further, he was willing to recklessly place the country in financial peril last October when the House wanted to suspend Obamacare, the very plan he obviously still doesn’t understand. So Obama then really didn’t mean to commit Fraud against America, but he really did!

If he really did lie, well he knowingly then committed Fraud against America and must be impeached before it is too late. This guy is slick and he is surrounded by very bright people who really do know what they are doing. There is a method to this seeming madness, it is the means to their ends. Like so many other things, he claims the Sergeant Schultz defense each time and we all think he is stupid – far from the truth. This man knowingly committed Fraud as he knows how the plan must work. He also knows that if the plan fails, there is no “Reset” button to magically get us back to 30 Sept,2013. There will be serious pain to undo this mess. His plan is, and always has been, Single Payer, and don’t kid yourself in thinking that we aren’t going there. Everyone in the White House and 1/2 in Congress want Single Payer. It will happen.

stuartm80127 on November 14, 2013 at 9:31 PM

This BS that the ACA only affect those with individual policies is laughable, just wait until the employer mandate goes into effect and millions more people get thrown on the exchange.

Dollayo on November 15, 2013 at 12:29 AM

First, many states require a 60-day notice of a change in plan or a cancellation. It’s November 15! How can they comply with this new element of federal law, and with their state laws?

With all eyes focused on Washington for so many things good or bad, it is easy to forget that the States are NOT just administrative districts to a central, national government. In fact, the States are supposed to be sovereign, and more powerful than the jokers in D.C. It’s long past time for the States to start acting like the nations that they are.

ss396 on November 15, 2013 at 12:36 AM

First, many states require a 60-day notice of a change in plan or a cancellation. It’s November 15! How can they comply with this new element of federal law, and with their state laws?

California judges just overturned a recent insurance cancellation for this kind of reason. I guess they will have to defer the un-cancellation as well, for the same reason.

virgo on November 15, 2013 at 2:11 AM

If a company goes under after backing all of this, I’m fine with it.

As the man on the Titanic said with that same attitude, “If this stupid ship sinks after charging me all that money for a ship ride with a captain who can’t steer straight, that’s fine with me.”

Don L on November 15, 2013 at 8:00 AM

it’s pure political CYA, and insanely myopic

sounds like Democrat policy

in that it’ll only compound their political problem next year if AHIP’s prediction is borne out and exchange plans become even more expensive.

You must be kidding, this is how the liberals operate: promise a lot, hide the costs, and when things threaten to resolve, find somebody to blame.

For example, put a lot of social programs out there for people to reelect you to the levers of power (which can then be manipulated again for more reelectability) when the bill comes and some people scratch their head over how we are going to pay it, call them terrorists for “shutting down the government” and say that the people who fear we’re charging to much or don’t want the credit limit raised are getting in the way of the government “paying its bills” and “being responsible” and when a rating agency has the same doubts about you paying your bills and downgrades you, blame that on the “terrorists” who caused uncertainty.

Axeman on November 15, 2013 at 10:15 AM

The American people aren’t as stupid as these lowlife liberals think they are. They know that not a single Republican voted for this stupid bill, without reading it. Yes, without reading it. Even the Thug in Chief didn’t read it.

tmgrant on November 16, 2013 at 5:03 PM

You’re not pinning this ObamaCare mess on us

Supp’d with the Devil. Spoon not long enough.

David Blue on November 16, 2013 at 9:01 PM

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