Open thread: Obama to make statement on ObamaCare at 11:35 ET; Update: Scapegoat the insurers

posted at 10:41 am on November 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Allotting for the usual Obama lateness, figure he’ll be at the podium sometime around 12:15. No mystery what this is about, either:

Pelosi, who became Speaker in 2006 by calling for a strong Congress to check executive overreach, is now hoping that Obama proposes an “administrative fix” rather than come to Congress. She’s a fraud, as is Captain Keepyourplan, of course. If O does call on Congress to pass something, though, I think Noah Rothman’s right about what that something will be:

Demanding higher subsidies would help him in two ways. First, it would spare him from having to endorse Landrieu’s “keep your plan” bill instead. Carney hinted yesterday that Obama might be open to that, but that’s only because he’s facing a ferocious revolt among congressional Dems. Landrieu’s bill would make the adverse selection trainwreck caused by the website’s failure even worse. It’s a last-resort option for O, something he’d do only if there was no other way to placate people who’ve received cancellation notices and the panicky Democrats who represent them in Congress. If you believe Politico, somewhere between 20 and 100 Dems could vote for Fred Upton’s “Keep Your Plan Act” tomorrow if O doesn’t offer them something else today. “Higher subsidies” is that something else. When in doubt, you can’t go wrong asking Democrats to support higher federal spending.

The other reason it helps him is that it would shift some of the spotlight he’s melting under right now to the GOP, in daring them to oppose a little extra cash for the same canceled policy-holders they claim to sympathize so much with. People want their old plans back because the new ones are too expensive? Fine — let’s subsidize them a little more, so that the rate shock isn’t so severe. That doesn’t solve the problem of higher deductibles and co-pays in many cases or the access shock that’s coming next year when people realize their new provider networks are smaller than their old ones, but so what? Obama’s not out there today because the law’s not working correctly. It’s working precisely the way it’s supposed to (in terms of cancellations). This is a political crisis and the standard liberal response to that is “more candy.” Let Republicans be the ones to tell people with cancelled plans that no, billions more in handouts to keep this boondoggle afloat isn’t the prudent thing to do when you’re $17 trillion in debt.

While we wait, enjoy this schadenfreudelicious reflection by ObamaCare superfan Ezra Klein, surveying the wreckage around him.

Update: Holy cow.

So … he’s embracing adverse selection? WaPo explains:

Any plans that are grandfathered – as these uncancelled plans would have to be – are kept financially separate from literally all other plans offered in the post-health law marketplace. Pre-Obamacare plans are put into what’s known as a separate “risk pool.” That means insurance companies can set premiums based just on how healthy or sick people are in this specific plan.

And since these are people insurers have decided to enroll, you can bet they tend to be a healthy bunch.

Everyone who gets insurance in an Obamacare-compliant plan would be in a different risk pool. Since those products have to take any applicants, they would likely have higher premiums.

“What they would allow the issuer to do is carve up the risk pool based on healthy and sick,” Corlette says. “Because the sicker people would be in the guaranteed issue market, over time you’d end up in the typical insurance death spiral.”

Plans offered on the exchange, which are already more expensive than canceled plans, will necessarily be even more expensive next year to make up for the loss of revenue insurers will suffer as healthy people revert to their now un-canceled plans. That’ll further discourage healthy people from enrolling next year or even dropping coverage that they’ve purchased on the exchange this year, which is where you get into death-spiral territory. One obvious way to prevent that would be for Uncle Sam to compensate insurers for their losses instead. Show of hands, Democrats: Who wants to run on that idea next year? Besides Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, I mean.

Or maybe I have this all wrong. Hard to tell from Bash’s tweets but it sounds like Obama’s adopting a variation of the Upton bill — insurers can un-cancel plans if they like but they’re not required to, as Landrieu’s bill would have them do. (In fact, per Klein, insurers already have the option to extend canceled plans through next year.) None of this solves O’s adverse selection problem but it does make it easier for him to scapegoat insurers: If they respond by declaring that it’s too late to un-cancel plans, too late to re-program their computer systems, too late to send out millions of un-cancellation notices, and just a bad idea given the death-spiral potential in all this, Obama can shrug his shoulders and say “damned greedy insurance companies.” It’s someone else’s fault. Always.

Update: Gooooood question.

And a good point:

Why didn’t he propose it before the shutdown? Because he didn’t need a scapegoat then.

Update: Needless to say, one of the grim pleasures in the aftermath of this today will be watching Democrats turn on a dime from attacking Upton’s proposal as a dangerous threat to ObamaCare that will only heighten the risk of adverse selection and higher premiums (which is true!) to praising Obama’s variation of the same idea as a smart bit of leadership aimed at keeping a presidential promise.

Update: Yep:

Update: The scapegoats aren’t going to take it lying down:

Update: Wait until Nancy finds out that Obama’s plan is, more or less, the Upton plan:

Update: Here’s how the Journal describes Obama’s proposal. It’s not quite the full Upton — new insurance customers aren’t eligible for un-canceled plans in O’s scheme — but it’s close enough:

The Obama plan, which the official said could be implemented without passing legislation, would allow insurance companies to extend “substandard” plans in 2014 only if they are already in existence. Unlike the House bill, the administration plan wouldn’t allow insurance companies to offer such plans to new customers.

The policy also would require insurance companies, if they extend such policies, to notify these customers that alternative policies might be available under the government insurance exchange and to tell them what benefits they wouldn’t be getting if they remained with their current plans.

The Democratic official said he believed the proposal would satisfy many Democrats who have been considering voting for the House bill.

A week ago, the liberal line on forcibly moving healthy people into more expensive plans on the exchanges was that their old plans were garbage compared to the new “comprehensive” ObamaCare-approved plans. They’re paying more, sure, but they’re getting more. Who wouldn’t want that? Here’s Obama acknowledging that, yeah, sometimes the most luxurious option isn’t the best one for the middle class. There’s a reason not everyone drives a Cadillac. Especially when the “Cadillacs” being sold on the exchange turn out to be no better than the Hondas people used to drive.

Update: Another reminder from Team Klein that today’s “fix” is something that was already available:

Insurers could have extended canceled plans for another year, but why would they? That would only complicate the new risk pool created by ObamaCare. Go figure that they need more revenue from the healthy to pay for preexisting conditions for the sick. The scapegoats are unhappy:

Update: Here’s how desperate The One is to pass the buck:

Right. Remember, “Plan B” for the Healthcare.gov’s failure is to have people enroll directly on insurance companies’ individual websites. The feds will need the companies’ cooperation on that in guesstimating taxpayer subsidies, as well as on helping to fix Healthcare.gov so that the “back end” transmission of applicant data works. Obama’s screwing them with today’s announcement despite all that. But then, insurers warned the White House long before the federal website launched last month that it was risk of problems and the White House reassured them that everything was fine. They’ve been screwed by Obama’s incompetence and buck-passing all year long.


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I’m not saying the GOP needs to help Dems…or asking/suggesting they do. On Health Care the GOP has been the sulking toddler who says they don’t wanna sit at the table with the family.

verbaluce on November 14, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Bad analogy. Not surprising, considering you made it up on the spot.

The GOP was more like the uncle raising an eyebrow at a 14-year-old girl’s cockeyed scheme to run off with a rock band, and trying to explain why that’s such a bad idea.

At no point should he jump in to try to make her foolish plan work.

There Goes the Neighborhood on November 14, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Magna Carta!

It was a good start.

LegendHasIt on November 14, 2013 at 1:25 PM

I wonder how many people in the US know what this means.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Magna Carta – Its the stuff that costs extra at The Sizzler;)
And when you think about it that is a good place to start.

onomo on November 14, 2013 at 2:00 PM

So if Obama proposes unilaterally what both a House Republican and a Senate Dem are proposing to do legislatively, the Republicans are toast?

oldroy on November 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM

So we haven’t learned yet that:
– a) republicans aren’t always the sharpest tools in the shed;
– b) republicans frequently propose things (knowingly or not) that actually help democrats, not republicans;
– c) if a democrat is sponsoring it, there’s a very good chance, if not universally true, that it will *not* benefit anyone but democrats…

Personally, anything that delays this pain/conversation beyond the 2014 elections is profoundly retarded for any republicans to participate in – it’s stupid politically, and stupid in terms of what’s best for the country in the long run.

There’s no reason for the GOP, at this point, to do anything other than push for full repeal; pass it in the House *with* the votes of scared Dems, and dare the Senate not to vote on it.

The public, right now, will support it. The GOP can either help the Dems remove the albatross from around their neck (via the Upton plan), or they can take the opportunity to paint it neon, glow in the dark orange, surround it with blinking lights and arrows and blaring music to make sure *everyone* knows that the Dems *really*, *REALLY* own it.

The Upton plan, or anything similar, effectively paints the GOP with some of the taint of this thing, and doesn’t kill it – and may put off the pain until after the ’14 election, which would simply be catastrophically stupid to do – don’t do it.

Midas on November 14, 2013 at 2:00 PM

From Ace –

Obama’s ‘major fix’ not only will not fix the ACA, but it will create the death spiral that insurers feared….

Changing the rules after health plans have already met the requirements of the law, Obamacare, could destabilize the market and result in higher premiums for consumers. Premiums have already been set for next year, based on assumptions of when consumers will be transitioning to the marketplaces. If now fewer younger and healthier people choose to purchase health coverage in the exchanges, premiums will increase, and there will be fewer choices for consumers. Additional steps must be taken to stabilize the marketplace and mitigate the adverse impact on consumers.

Given the President’s past history with lying over the ACA, he has taken a huge credibility hit. With this ‘solution’ actually going to contribute towards creating a premium ‘death spiral’, and basically only putting a small band-aid on a massive wound, his veracity and credibility will take another major hit.

Once again he has confirmed he is little more than an ideologue – unwilling to change course / direction if it requires him to admit a mistake or an error.

Athos on November 14, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Who is going to drag insurers into court who reinstate people under their junk policies? This is another change to the law by fiat. 0boobie just delayed the individual mandate one year. And he’s doing it by saying insurers have the freedom/choice to reinstate policies.

This is illegal, damnit! Are there any lawmakers with backbone?

freedomfirst on November 14, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Exactly right. The answer to the first question the GOP talking heads get on Sunday morning is, “Why does obama think he can unilaterally and arbitrarily change existing law; a law that he and the dhimmicRATs approved? Does obama think he is above the law?”

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM

I’m not saying the GOP needs to help Dems…or asking/suggesting they do. On Health Care the GOP has been the sulking toddler who says they don’t wanna sit at the table with the family.

verbaluce on November 14, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Your bus driver has insisted we sit in the back from the get Gomer.

onomo on November 14, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Who is going to drag insurers into court who reinstate people under their junk policies? This is another change to the law by fiat. 0boobie just delayed the individual mandate one year. And he’s doing it by saying insurers have the freedom/choice to reinstate policies.

This is illegal, damnit! Are there any lawmakers with backbone?

freedomfirst on November 14, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Exactly right. The answer to the first question the GOP talking heads get on Sunday morning is, “Why does obama think he can unilaterally and arbitrarily change existing law; a law that he and the dhimmicRATs approved? Does obama think he is above the law?”

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Yes, beyond the talking point of “hey, whatever happened to “the law of the land” you nitwits were so adamant about a few weeks ago?” – there is a fundamental question – no, not a question, a fact – that what Obama has suggested is simply Constitutionally illegal. Not that it’s the first time, mind you, but there’s no question about it.

Is this government a dictatorship, or is it something else?

Midas on November 14, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Amy Otto ‏@CAAmyO 9m

Is Obamacare actually a law or more of a interpretative dance?

It’s more, what you call “guidelines” than actual rules.

bofh on November 14, 2013 at 2:05 PM

I’m not saying the GOP needs to help Dems…or asking/suggesting they do. On Health Care the GOP has been the sulking toddler who says they don’t wanna sit at the table with the family.

verbaluce on November 14, 2013 at 11:22 AM

.
Bad analogy. Not surprising, considering you made it up on the spot.

The GOP was more like the uncle raising an eyebrow at a 14-year-old girl’s cockeyed scheme to run off with a rock band, and trying to explain why that’s such a bad idea.

At no point should he jump in to try to make her foolish plan work.

There Goes the Neighborhood
on November 14, 2013 at 1:58 PM

.
Wow, ‘Neighbor’ … that’s an absolutely excellent analogy.

Dead-nuts right-on !

listens2glenn on November 14, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Additional steps must be taken to stabilize the marketplace and mitigate the adverse impact on consumers.

Yes, the solution is to get rid of Obama……

redguy on November 14, 2013 at 2:07 PM

The Dems have acted all along like their/Barry’s version of utopia was different from FDR’s/Mussolini’s. The three really are inseparable. Though of the three it appears Mussolini was by far the most intelligent.

onomo on November 14, 2013 at 2:07 PM

I guess I’m still not clear.

Was Obama for the cancellations before he was against them?

oldroy on November 14, 2013 at 2:07 PM

On Health Care the GOP has been the sulking toddler who says they don’t wanna sit at the table with the family.
 
verbaluce on November 14, 2013 at 11:22 AM

 
Yes, because people in line at the grocery store constantly see toddlers point at candy and say “We need to examine our expenditures more closely.”
 
Good job, verbaluce.

rogerb on November 14, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Horace Greely was. Now you were saying? OBTW he doesn’t work in the journalism field.
Oldnuke on November 14, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Heck, I even remember the old saw about how:

Horace Greeley said : “Go West, Young man, Go West”
“While he stayed in the east and made a fortune.”

LegendHasIt on November 14, 2013 at 2:10 PM

BTW:
 

This is all yours, verbaluce.
 
What’s currently happening to grocery budgets of families with small children? You did it.
 
What’s currently happening to middle class education savings? You did it.
 
What’s currently happening to retirement accounts? You did it.
 
What’s currently happening to the wealth average Americans struggled to accumulate and hoped to pass on to their grandkids? You did it.
 
Congratulations. You got exactly what you wanted. I can see why you want someone else to blame.
 
rogerb on November 6, 2013 at 8:35 PM

rogerb on November 14, 2013 at 2:13 PM

who could have predicted all this?

phatfawzi on November 14, 2013 at 2:18 PM

NotCoach on November 14, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Cruz turned his name (and the GOP’s) to mud for no purpose whatsoever. Nothing needed to be done. But he wasn’t content with that. He had to go and set his own hair on fire instead of just watching Obamacare self immolate.

MJBrutus on November 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM

This is why RINOs always lose. Cruz didn’t turn his name to mud. That was the fevered overreaction of the RINOs.

Right now, Obamacare is a disaster and Cruz looks brilliant for trying to stop it when everyone was pretending it was unstoppable.

Was he more brilliant than everyone else? Of course not. Anyone with any sense could see that Obamacare was a bad idea. Anyone with any sense was predicting the broad outlines of what we see now.

But nobody else was taking a bold stand against it. So Cruz looks brilliant, and McCain looks completely out of touch. And if there’s any doubt, McCain was giving the RINO response at the time, which makes all RINOs look similarly out of touch.

There Goes the Neighborhood on November 14, 2013 at 2:18 PM

We got lucky that the ACA was soo weighed down by cronyism that it nose dived on take off. If it was all up to the GOPe we’d have been fkd. Now, remember who beat the drum for 4 years on Ocare -THE TEA PARTY. Why was liberal Scott Brown a Tea Pary favorite? – because he promised to vote against Ocare. Remember who’s been warning America and who has been calling them hobbits and Wackobirds. Remember the small faction of the GOP that was productive(Cruz,Lee,Paul) and the majority who were useless. Remember all the pleas for all these years to work across the isle and learn to compromise. Remember that if it was up to the majority of the GOP in the senate we would have eventually gone along to get along on Ocare. Remember this when they lie to your face and claim they were always ready to move heaven and earth to repeal Ocare.

Especially the Gope trolls here at HA who down played the importance of Ocare in the last election. It was the only reason many of us considered the less then ideal Santorum(he was the only guy making it a central theme). It was issue #1 for most of the TruCons here. You all lib Repubs need to leave the room for awhile and think about what you don’t know.

But thnk G-d this thing may actually die on it’s own.

BoxHead1 on November 14, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Which is after the midterms. It is delaying the pain just as the employer mandate was extended until after the midterms. It allows the repubs to be demonized over the next year and the MSM to praise how wonderful the dems are for their fast action on getting BOcare working right.

Dr. Frank Enstine on November 14, 2013 at 1:49 PM

The Dems will not be able to sweep that under the rug until after the election.

cajunpatriot on November 14, 2013 at 2:25 PM

The shift was designed to end a growing revolt by Democrats worried that the canceled policies, as well as the botched rollout of the government website for enrollment in the exchanges, would threaten their re-election bids in 2014.

OK so cancelling their policies again in October 2014 will not threaten the democrats in the November 2014 elections? LOL…

mnjg on November 14, 2013 at 2:25 PM

I’m not saying the GOP needs to help Dems…or asking/suggesting they do. On Health Care the GOP has been the sulking toddler who says they don’t wanna sit at the table with the family.

verbaluce on November 14, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Oh of course.
I remember those days quite well when my boys were toddlers, and I kept buying them candy and toys, and they would cry and sulk and yel at me – “but daddy, that candy is bad for me, and the toys don’t work, and we just really can’t afford those things anyway, so please just stop buying me that stuff….”

dentarthurdent on November 14, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Obama proves, yet again, that he has no regard for the law, even the one with his name on it.

Insurer’s are in compliance with Obamacare, and since it is the train wreck that everyone without a “D” after their name said it was going to be and is harming millions of Americans, Obama, in order to ‘fix’ the wrong this law has done to these millions, suggests that the insurance companies simply disregard the law, on his say so, until it’s convenient for him to ask them to once again comply.

Obama should be arrested and thrown in jail. He’s urging the entire insurance industry to break the law.

Further, Obama, despite having done so repeatedly without repercussions, cannot make or change the law. Congress, the legislative branch of the federal government, is the sole entity empowered to make laws or change those laws.

If Obama wants the provisions of the law known as The Affordable Care Act changed in any way he must ask congress to make those changes. If Obama tries to do so on his own he should be impeached and removed from office and Obamacare should be repealed as the harmful and poorly crafted piece of legislation that it is and replaced with a viable free market insurance system.

This is not Venezuela. Obama may not simply order the insurance industry to violate the law, he may not urge Americans to be complicit in violating the law.

If Obamacare is to be ‘fixed’ it must be done through congress, those ‘fixes’ must become part of the law, and if it cannot be ‘fixed’ this poorly crafted legislation must be repealed and replaced in its entirety.

When one wonders why their is an atmosphere of lawlessness in this nation… one need only look to the president and his display of wanton disregard for the law.

thatsafactjack on November 14, 2013 at 2:26 PM

This is why RINOs always lose. Cruz didn’t turn his name to mud. That was the fevered overreaction of the RINOs.

Right now, Obamacare is a disaster and Cruz looks brilliant for trying to stop it when everyone was pretending it was unstoppable.

Was he more brilliant than everyone else? Of course not. Anyone with any sense could see that Obamacare was a bad idea. Anyone with any sense was predicting the broad outlines of what we see now.

But nobody else was taking a bold stand against it. So Cruz looks brilliant, and McCain looks completely out of touch. And if there’s any doubt, McCain was giving the RINO response at the time, which makes all RINOs look similarly out of touch.

There Goes the Neighborhood on November 14, 2013 at 2:18 PM

That’s because Cruz has convictions and know what is right.
The Republicans need to get behind Cruz and let him lead the fight.
Time for offense. It’s time to go for it and kill ObamaCare.

redguy on November 14, 2013 at 2:27 PM

NotCoach on November 14, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Cruz turned his name (and the GOP’s) to mud for no purpose whatsoever. Nothing needed to be done. But he wasn’t content with that. He had to go and set his own hair on fire instead of just watching Obamacare self immolate.

MJBrutus on November 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM

You’re cute, but so ignorant.
Cruz made sure the democrats OWNED obamacare.
Your tools, McCain et Al, we’re going around attacking their own party and yammering that obamacare was the law of the land.
Nice try, but I think two thumps at the voting booth with your kind of ‘man’, term used very loosely, is enough proof that you should just sit down and try to keep your spine from jiggling.

HornetSting on November 14, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Amy Otto ‏@CAAmyO 9m

Is Obamacare actually a law or more of a interpretative dance?

It’s more, what you call “guidelines” than actual rules.

bofh on November 14, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Interpretive dance. Ha!

In the balance of “justice” and “compassion” … Obama doesn’t have the respect for the law someone who’s sworn to uphold the Constitution should have. He doesn’t respect the law, but he uses it to get what he wants. I consider that the lowest sort of person.

Paul-Cincy on November 14, 2013 at 2:28 PM

To clarify, -the insurance companies are not being ordered to extend policies, they MAY extend policies at their discretion.

slickwillie2001 on November 14, 2013 at 12:14 PM

It’s even worse than that. Extending those policies is still illegal. He’s just pledging not to enforce that law if they want to extend policies, at their discretion, as long as they meet his two conditions.

Sounds like for most insurance companies, there’s a lot less risk to simply leave those policies canceled.

There Goes the Neighborhood on November 14, 2013 at 2:30 PM

I’m not saying the GOP needs to help Dems…or asking/suggesting they do. On Health Care the GOP has been the sulking toddler who says they don’t wanna sit at the table with the family.

verbaluce on November 14, 2013 at 11:22 AM

You didn’t want nor even consider help from the GOP.
You own this simmering pile of sh!t.
Eat it with a fork.

HornetSting on November 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Legacy

justltl on November 14, 2013 at 2:32 PM

…psychO’Barky leaving a trail of slime wherever he goes.

viking01 on November 14, 2013 at 2:33 PM

I don’t think Obama is changing it. I think it’s like Allah said, it’s blame shifting. I’m seeing this all as the end of Ocare. I can be very optimistic and I’m often wrong but I can’t see how they are going to keep this law unless they add a bunch of unfunded subsidies which would be a huge middle finger to the young. but maybe we will go that route. Borrow a few trillion more from China and hand it to the insurance companies. Completely distort the health care market. The coup de grace to America.

BoxHead1 on November 14, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Pelosi, who became Speaker in 2006 by…

Go back and look at all of the things Pelosi promised in 2006:

A NEW DIRECTION FOR AMERICA

Here are some of my favorites, with respect to deficits and debt:

Over the past decade, the Republican controlled Congress took our nation in the wrong direction. Too many Americans are paying a heavy price for those wrong choices: record costs for energy, health care and education; jobs shipped overseas; and budgets that heap record debt on our children. For millions, the middle-class dream has been replaced by a middle-class squeeze…

Democrats are proposing a New Direction for America…

With integrity, civility and fiscal discipline, our New Direction for America will use commonsense principles to address the aspirations and fulfill the hopes and dreams of all Americans. That is our promise to the American people….

Our federal budget should be a statement of our national values. One of those values is responsibility. Democrats are committed to ending years of irresponsible budget policies that have produced historic deficits. Instead of piling trillions of dollars of debt onto our children and grandchildren, we will restore “Pay As You Go” budget discipline.

Budget discipline has been abandoned by the Bush Administration and its Republican congressional majorities. Congress under Republican control has turned a projected $5.6 trillion 10-year surplus at the end of the Clinton years into a nearly $3 trillion deficit– including the four worst deficits in the history of America. The nation’s debt ceiling has been raised four times in just five years to more than $8.9 trillion. Nearly half of our nation’s record debt is owned by foreign countries including China and Japan. Without a return to fiscal discipline, the foreign countries that make our computers, our clothing and our toys will soon be making our foreign policy. Deficit spending is not just a fiscal problem – it’s a national security issue as well.

Our New Direction is committed to “Pay As You Go” budgeting – no more deficit spending.

Far from keeping that promise, Pelosi added over $5 TRILLION in new debt in her four years as speaker.

Pelosi took the FY 2007 deficit that she inherited (< $161 Billion) and roughly tripled it in her first Fiscal Year (FY 2008) setting a new record deficit. Then she roughly TRIPLED that deficit AGAIN in her second Fiscal Year (FY 2009), creating the first annual deficit over $1 TRILLION.

The SIX worst deficits in the history of America have ALL come since Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid (along with then-Senators Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, etc.) took control of the House and Senate.

Yes, John Boehner is Speaker of the House now, but Democrats still have the majority of leverage, controlling the Senate and Presidency.

ITguy on November 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM

The Dems have acted all along like their/Barry’s version of utopia was different from FDR’s/Mussolini’s. The three really are inseparable. Though of the three it appears Mussolini was by far the most intelligent.
onomo on November 14, 2013 at 2:07 PM

BO is doing his typically half-azzed job as a fascist dictator.
At least Mussolini was able to keep up with the lie of something running efficiently and on time.

Jomama on November 14, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan

Considerably more Americans signed a petition to have me deported than enrolled for Obamacare. I’d start panicking, Mr President…

11/13/13, 7:16 PM

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

FLOOD THEIR OFFICES WITH CALLS….pound them on Social media.

THEIR policies are KILLING Americans!!!!

PappyD61 on November 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

I’m not saying the GOP needs to help Dems…or asking/suggesting they do. On Health Care the GOP has been the sulking toddler who says they don’t wanna sit at the table with the family.
verbaluce on November 14, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Interesting. In my family, the kids don’t want to be put at the kiddie table, they want to eat with everyone else. I guess in your family, the kids are so sick and tired of listening to the adults nut-hug Obama that they PLEAD to sit at a kiddie table.

Pale Rider on November 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan

Considerably more Americans signed a petition to have me deported than enrolled for Obamacare. I’d start panicking, Mr President…

11/13/13, 7:16 PM

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

If he keeps this up, I might entertain the prospect of a reprieve.

Might.

Pale Rider on November 14, 2013 at 2:45 PM

I was in meetings most of the day, but the bottom line is this: will this “fix” actually save many cancellations?

My sense is no, because many insurers have left markets altogether, it’s not worth the hassle to them, and the Insurance Commissioners still have to approve these renewed plans, which will take weeks and months.

Am I wrong here? Has he successfully thrown a Hail Mary?

And can’t insurers retaliate as to the legality of this?

matthew8787 on November 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM

BO is doing his typically half-azzed job as a fascist dictator.
At least Mussolini was able to keep up with the lie of something running efficiently and on time.

Jomama on November 14, 2013 at 2:40 PM

But look at what eventually happened to Mussolini.
We can only hope……

dentarthurdent on November 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Tex., isn’t quite finished with his crusade against Obamacare.

“This thing isn’t working, and we need to start over,” the senator said in an interview with Megan Kelly on Fox News on Wednesday night.

Cruz was the force behind the Defund Obamacare movement that resulted in the government shutdown in October. He caused a great deal of anger on both sides, yet Cruz is now using the rocky first month of the health care law as vindication.

In the interview Wednesday, Cruz called for full repeal and replacement of the law, citing insurance plan cancellations as indication that the health care law isn’t working.

“We need to do two things,” Cruz explained. “No. 1, we need to suspend Obamacare; we need to repeal it altogether because it’s not working. Not fiddle around the edges, but acknowledge the thing is fundamentally flawed. No. 2, we need positive health reform, to empower consumers to purchase health care across state lines and create a true national market, so your health insurance can be afford, personal, and portable.”

Cruz said the bills being considered in Congress to allow individuals to keep their health plans are not sufficient. Instead, he intends in the coming weeks to lay out a plan to repeal the law.

“At this point, starting over, stopping Obamacare, I think is the essence of pragmatism,” he said.

kcewa on November 14, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

When you’ve lost Piers, you’re in some real deep caca.

Athos on November 14, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Two rats crawling out of a sewer of a now unidentifiable American city and observing the smoking ruins.

“It all started when some Jug-Eared Creep said ‘You can keeps your homes, estates and property’”.

MaiDee on November 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM

This is not Venezuela. Obama may not simply order the insurance industry to violate the law, he may not urge Americans to be complicit in violating the law.
thatsafactjack on November 14, 2013 at 2:26 PM

The govt cannot force a company to do something that makes them go bankrupt either.

txhsmom on November 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM

I guess in your family, the kids are so sick and tired of listening to the adults nut-hug Obama that they PLEAD to sit at a kiddie table.

that there’s funny as hell Pale Rider

DanMan on November 14, 2013 at 2:52 PM

So the insurance companies just sit around and see what issues from this moron’s mouth on any given day?
What if they miss a news conference?
Or what he says while golfing?

justltl on November 14, 2013 at 2:52 PM

To all the insurance companies that wanted this, who then practiced due diligence in deciding what could and could not be offered, and then followed best fiscal practices in withdrawing plans in accordance with the law or seeing that the set of regulations made such plans unfeasible:

SUCKERS!

You paid for that knife in your backs and you deserve it.

May I suggest you stop backing Democrats? The entire party has gone nuts. Cozying up with them is going to be similar to cozying up to polar bear while it hibernates: it seemed like a good idea at the time, but gets you killed.

How about backing deregulation, instead?

You might survive that.

If you can figure out how to get the knife out, that is. Keep supporting the same people and you will get more of the same.

ajacksonian on November 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Say, Obama, if you like your screwed up ACA you can keep your screwed up ACA.

But since you want it ‘fixed’ that means it is SUBSTANDARD and needs to go.

That is your logic for everyone else.

Enforce the damned law as is or admit you can’t do it and the law should be repealed.

Ask Ted Cruz for help on that, he was trying to help you, as you may be figuring out.

He was being nice to you and the D office holders.

An apology to him is also in order.

That is if you are man enough to do so.

ajacksonian on November 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I do understand Pelosi on about administrative corrections…the HHS secretary wrote this rule that gutted the idea of grandfathered plans, and she can undo them, but lets see the writing/unwriting and how it is worded.

A lot of people in the last three years have had their plans end because of the $750K yearly coverage Max they did not reach and that made a huge difference for mini plans which are what businesses did for those nice plans people in min wage jobs took cuz they liked the benefits on the side with the real job they liked/self employment that didn’t have any insurance.

We want ALL the plans back, especially for the businesses.

I hope some business will run and get a lawyer for this one, some people can have their plans back, but others are not included?

Let’s see Sebelius’ writing of this rule. Right now.

Fleuries on November 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan

Considerably more Americans signed a petition to have me deported than enrolled for Obamacare. I’d start panicking, Mr President…

11/13/13, 7:16 PM

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

If he keeps this up, I might entertain the prospect of a reprieve.

Might.

Pale Rider on November 14, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Heh. I’d trade Britain Morgan for obama and throw in biden for boot.

davidk on November 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM

It’s rope a dope time.

Dhuka on November 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM

But look at what eventually happened to Mussolini.
We can only hope….
dentarthurdent on November 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM

“I am finished. My star has fallen. I have no fight left in me. I work and I try, yet know that all is but a farce. I await the end of the tragedy and strangely detached from everything. I do not feel any more an actor. I feel I am the last of spectators.” Benito Mussolini, early 1945

Jomama on November 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan

Considerably more Americans signed a petition to have me deported than enrolled for Obamacare. I’d start panicking, Mr President…

11/13/13, 7:16 PM

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

.
Maybe they should BOTH “start panicking.”

listens2glenn on November 14, 2013 at 3:02 PM

“Read the Bill!”

See Congressional Dims, we told you so!

INC on November 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Why just deport Piers Morgan or O’Barky when one could deport Piers Morgan and O’Barky?

viking01 on November 14, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Just peeking in real quick while on break. So,……did I miss anything? ; )

Bmore on November 14, 2013 at 3:14 PM

You didn’t want nor even consider help from the GOP.
You own this simmering pile of sh!t.
Eat it with a fork.

HornetSting on November 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM

.
Now you KNOW that will never happen …

… force feeding is the only viable option.

PolAgnostic on November 14, 2013 at 3:19 PM

But the key point is, is that it allows us to be able to say to the folks who’ve received these notices, look, you know, I, the president of the United States, and the insurance — the insurance model of the Affordable Care Act is not going to be getting in the way of you shopping in the individual market that you used to have. Now, as I said, there are still going to be some folks who, over time, I think, are going to find that the marketplaces are better

NOT MY FAULT!!!!

Trying to put the blame on someone else, as usual.
He is such a weasel.

Barred on November 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM

The first sentence says it all.

Barred on November 14, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Just peeking in real quick while on break. So,……did I miss anything? ; )

Bmore on November 14, 2013 at 3:14 PM


In broad terms?

Nope, Obama’s still a lying sack of sh1te and the Dim’s are running around with their hair on fire.

Tick tock tick tock goes the REPEAL clock

Maybe you could make an Obamacare calendar/clock visual counting down to detonation on 1/1/14?

PolAgnostic on November 14, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Open Thread still?

I just read Alec Baldwin was caught on camera screaming “c********ing fa****ot!!!” at another pap today in NYC.
And he STILL has an MSNBC show this afternoon! Amazing what the usual media will ignore and will not ignore.

Marcus on November 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Pic of the Day: One Obama Picture Says A Thousand Words

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 3:27 PM

What an arrogant, narcissistic, repugnant little pus.

He’s looking more and more like Mad King George III every day.
http://www.original-political-cartoon.com/media/gallery/auth_1-920-600.jpg

theotherone on November 14, 2013 at 3:53 PM

He’s looking more and more like Mad King George III every day.
http://www.original-political-cartoon.com/media/gallery/auth_1-920-600.jpg

theotherone on November 14, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Whoops! That was George the IV. Well, let me change my comment to “he’s ACTING more like Mad King George III every day.”

He’s still a repugnant pus.

theotherone on November 14, 2013 at 3:55 PM

I’m not saying the GOP needs to help Dems…or asking/suggesting they do. On Health Care the GOP has been the sulking toddler who says they don’t wanna sit at the table with the family.

verbaluce on November 14, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Gnatbrain…you’re saying “You are not welcome at this table, in fact you are forbidden to even know where the table is, but then it’s your fault because you’re not at the table”.

Like I type, often, you are entertaining, no more, no less. Period.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Open Thread still?

I just read Alec Baldwin was caught on camera screaming “c********ing fa****ot!!!” at another pap today in NYC.
And he STILL has an MSNBC show this afternoon! Amazing what the usual media will ignore and will not ignore.

Marcus on November 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM

…and Capital One keeps shoveling money into his enormous maw. I don’t get those jerks.

Activists Call for Capital One to Drop Alec Baldwin Over Homophobic Tweets

slickwillie2001 on November 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Pic of the Day: One Obama Picture Says A Thousand Words

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Just peeking in real quick while on break. So,……did I miss anything? ; )

Bmore on November 14, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Capture what RWM provided, right above this, and put flies all around it, in the form of a wreath.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM

I’m not saying the GOP needs to help Dems…or asking/suggesting they do. On Health Care the GOP has been the sulking toddler who says they don’t wanna sit at the table with the family.

verbaluce on November 14, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Well I’m saying that every Dem is now acting like its 11:30 p.m. Dec. 24th and they’ve suddenly realized they’ve been a f*cking @$$hole to every living thing on the planet.-was this the reason for Obama’s war on coal?
The dim Dem meeting yesterday, was it to yell at each other for not doing… what a sulking toddler had been suggesting they do all along!?!?
I think you better pass the potatoes. (yes with an e ;)

onomo on November 14, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Please :)

onomo on November 14, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Sports Stadiums, Disney World, Chipotle: Sizing Up the Obamacare Enrollee Figure

They’re here and they’re low — real low. At just 27,000, the paltry Healthcare.gov enrollment total is even less than what some experts warned it would be earlier in the week, and way below what the White House estimated it needed for the law to be successful. In order to get a better grasp of the figure, here are eleven helpful measures to go by:

1. The enrollees could all squeeze into President Obama’s law-school alma mater’s football field, Harvard Stadium, with room to spare: 30,323 seats.

2. There are currently just about as many Jayhawks enrolled at the University of Kansas, where Kathleen Sebelius received her MBA, as have enrolled on Healthcare.gov so far: 27,784 students.

3. Fewer than one-third of the total number of employees that head in to work for Sebelius at the Department of Health and Human Services were successfully able to get through the federal website: 83,745 (2011).

4. Coincidence? Sebelius just happened to have the same number of Twitter followers as Healthcare.gov enrollees on the day of the figures’ release.

5. The one-month figure is about the same as the population of Kentucky’s capital, Frankfort. Democrats have hailed the state for its functioning exchange.

6. More Americans undergo a background check to purchase a gun each day since President Obama took office than have enrolled on Healthcare.gov: 46,455.

7. According to estimates from Chipotle Mexican Grill’s CEO, the company serves more customers per hour (roughly 31,250) than the Obama administration was able to sign up last month.

8. Mickey, Donald, and Goofy welcome nearly twice as many visitors to the Magic Kingdom every day as Obama and Sebelius have been able to enroll: 48,043 visitors.

9. The middling San Diego Padres averaged as many fans per game (26,749; 20th in Major League Baseball overall) as Healthcare.gov enrolled users last month.

10. The number of enrollees is about equal to the number of passengers who fly through Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport every two and a half hours.

11. Enrolling on Healthcare.gov is more exclusive than attending this year’s Cannes Film Festival: 29,323.

12. 106,185 people enrolled in Obamacare in all exchanges. 108,713 attended the 2010 NBA All-Star Game in Cowboys Stadium.

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 4:28 PM

The Jews did it! Them damn Jews again! My mentor the most Reverend Wright warned me about them! They run all those greedy insurance companies! I’ll get them! I’ll get them!

VorDaj on November 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Roflmao..Classic tweet..

John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz
Rick Perry did better in the oops debate than this

Dire Straits on November 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Yo, verbsoutofbalance

You and your guy Obama remind me of the need of a few loons who need to be characters in the book “Man Without a Country” all set to sail out in the Atlantic on one last long trip to no where.

Now we are down to a “carny” midway con!

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 14, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Lets all be as nice as possible to Obama and his commie Democrats who voted for this pile of dung.

Possible:

1. Boxes of dung beetles.

2. Old wood shingles to eat the sh”” off of.

3. Chocolate covered strawberries to top off the sh”” .

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 14, 2013 at 5:01 PM

If you want to laugh for 10 minutes solid read David Burge (Iowahawkblog) and Ace of Spades twitter feeds..Great stuff..:)

Dire Straits on November 14, 2013 at 5:07 PM

In response to falling poll numbers, President Obama announces several new policies in addition to you can keep your insurance plan-

All chocolate sold in the US has no calories.

All public tranportation is unicorn powered.

You may eat as much as you want and maintain a BMI under 25.

It’s easy to see how the website was such a debacle. Any bozo who thinks you can just continue your current health plan after it has been cancelled (and discontinued, and has no new rate information, approval from the state regulators, contracts with providers, etc, etc, etc) obviously has magical thinking, which is the only way one could have supported this legislation in the first place. Now we get to see if the media has woken up.

talkingpoints on November 14, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Bottom line of the presser – Obama is still shamelessly lying…

See the link for the proof from 2010 that Obama’s lie about this only impacting 5% of the population remains a base lie.

Then…

Is Obama’s action illegal, as many critics are charging? It certainly could have been done legally. The Obamacare statute just says that pre-existing plans will be grandfathered, and that the details of the grandfathering will be left to regulation. It is the regulations promulgated by Obama’s Departments of the Treasury, Health and Human Services and Labor that have caused the cancelled plans to be illegal. Those same departments presumably could revise their regulations to give individuals another year of grandfathered status regardless of the policy’s terms.

But that isn’t quite the way Obama did it. Instead, HHS announced a “transitional policy” in a letter to state insurance commissioners. The letter makes clear something that I haven’t seen in news reports, i.e., the change relates not just to individual policies but to small business group plans as well. The letter then says, “State agencies responsible for enforcing the specified market reforms are encouraged to adopt the same transitional policy with respect to this coverage.” I have no idea why this remains discretionary with the state insurance commissions. It isn’t the states whose regulations banned non-conforming individual plans, it is the federal regulations promulgated by the Obama administration that did so.

In any event, I doubt that the administration paid much attention to legal niceties. This action appears to be the result of sheer panic on the part of Democrats who are up for re-election next year and who threatened to take matters into their own hands if the administration didn’t take them off the hook.

Athos on November 14, 2013 at 5:51 PM

The 17 Lies of the President’s announcement on Obamacare today…

and still counting….

Athos on November 14, 2013 at 5:58 PM

“obama holds pressers to find out what’s going on, not to tell you” — Leno, last night

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

This has to have been suggested already, so perhaps I’m just seconding the motion …

…but when are the Dems changing their party symbol from “donkey” to “goat”?

dissent555 on November 14, 2013 at 10:46 PM

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verbaluce on November 14, 2013 at 11:22 AM

You didn’t want nor even consider help from the GOP.
You own this simmering pile of sh!t.
Eat it with a fork.

HornetSting on November 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM
e>…good…you’re back!

KOOLAID2 on November 15, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Notice that Obama didn’t really say that you could keep your plan (at the same rate). The rate is quite an important part of any plan which the voters will readily appreciate.

I don’t really want to help Democrats out of this, but one way is for them to replace the entire text of ObamaCare with Medicare so that it is an alternative name for it. At the same time, allowing all insurance companies to go back to what they were doing before (and Medicare the same).

This allows a symbolic achievement for Democrats (which, as politicians, they are OK with) and gets them back on the campaign trail, where they can change the subject to the next liberal meme.

Rejoice! How the mighty are fallen! Floored by the weight of their own prejudice, hubris and ignorance.

virgo on November 15, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Many “experts” say over and over Obama’s fix will not work: is not legal, doesn’t take into account state regulators, what will happen in 2015, etc).

Understand this: Obama does NOT want any fix to work. He has figured that this “fix” will be perfect camouflage only if it doesn’t work! Because then he’ll be able to blame everybody else for ACA’s failures.

He’ll say, “See I had it all fixed up and those nasty opponents went and screwed the situation up royally”!!

rpupton on November 15, 2013 at 1:42 PM

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