The plot thickens: ObamaCare website project manager claims he wasn’t told that security flaws posed “limitless” risk

posted at 11:11 am on November 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

It’s Henry Chao, who warned people back in March that he was “nervous” about the state of Healthcare.gov’s development and hoped that using the site wouldn’t be “a third-world experience.” Eight months later, that’s exactly what it is: The front end barely functions, the back end is a ripe target for thieves, and the people in charge are either dangerously ignorant about its operations or covering up what they knew. Money quote from CBS’s story about this:

Chao said he was unaware of a Sept. 3 government memo written by another senior official at CMS. It found two high-risk issues, which are redacted for security reasons. The memo said “the threat and risk potential (to the system) is limitless.” The memo shows CMS gave deadlines of mid-2014 and early 2015 to address them…

It was Chao who recommended it was safe to launch the website Oct. 1. When shown the security risk memo, Chao said, “I just want to say that I haven’t seen this before.”

A Republican staff lawyer asked, “Do you find it surprising that you haven’t seen this before?”

Chao replied, “Yeah … I mean, wouldn’t you be surprised if you were me?” He later added: “It is disturbing. I mean, I don’t deny that this is … a fairly nonstandard way” to proceed.

Note well: The estimated fix for the unspecified security problems was the middle of next year at the earliest. HHS says they rolled out the site on October 1 even though it wasn’t functioning because they thought they could fix it on the fly relatively quickly after launch. This memo proves that that’s a lie.

Now, the question: Did Chao lie to the committee about not having seen the Sept. 3 memo before or was there a deliberate effort within CMS to withhold the extent of the site’s problems from supervisors like him so that they’d greenlight it for launch as scheduled? If the latter, who’s responsible? As it turns out, the memo was written by — ta da — Tony Trenkle, lead tech officer for Healthcare.gov who left last week under mysteriously vague circumstances. As CBS reported, Trenkle himself never signed off on security for the site in September; it was his boss, Marilyn Tavenner, who signed the authorization, supposedly because she thought that a project this big should carry the John Hancock of the head of CMS. Is that the truth, or did Trenkle refuse to sign because he knew the site’s security was a travesty and couldn’t in good conscience authorize launching it? The fact that he wrote such a dire memo about “limitless” risk suggests that he knew the extent of the problem — and yet, if you believe Chao, that information somehow never made its way to the project manager. Why? Why are there so many unorthodox procedures related to approval of the site’s security here? Did Tavenner, at least, see Trenkle’s memo before she authorized the launch or was it withheld from her too? If she did see it, why didn’t she tell Obama and Sebelius that security was too weak to justify rolling it out now?

I assume CMS will try to pin all of this on Trenkle by claiming he didn’t do enough to warn his superiors about how bad things were. And yet the fact remains: He wrote the memo. He wanted someone to see it. The language he used was sufficiently alarming that Chao himself said it was “disturbing” that he hadn’t seen it before when it was handed to him at the hearing. It can’t be Trenkle who suppressed the bad news about security. Whodunnit?


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Does anybody in this administration know what is going on? I know nothing, I saw nothing, nobody told me…Great defense mechanism.

major dad on November 12, 2013 at 11:21 AM

The Sgt. Schultz defense.

skeneogden on November 12, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Well, it didn’t take long for the usual pattern of evasion, not knowing, and covering up to appear in the testimony over this latest Obama Administration clusterfark / debacle.

It’s as if, in testimony prep, more time is spent on how to obfuscate, deflect, and cover up than is spent on getting the right answers to Congressional questioners. Of course, if there was nothing done wrong, why is there such a challenge endemic throughout this Administration with straight answers as opposed to obfuscation and deflection?

This is one of the more exasperating aspects of the House GOP Leadership – they see this pattern in every clusterfark they investigate, yet, they still aren’t prepared to hit back at the Administration hard as they continue to play this game.

Athos on November 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM

The plot is thicker than you think.

WASHINGTON — A tech firm linked to a campaign-donor crony of President Obama not only got the job to help build the federal health-insurance Web site — but also is getting paid to fix it.

Anthony Welters, a top campaign bundler for Obama and frequent White House guest, is the executive vice president of UnitedHealth Group, which owns the software company now at the center of the ObamaCare Web-site fiasco.

UnitedHealth Group subsidiary Quality Software Services Inc. (QSSI), which built the data hub for the ObamaCare system, has been named the new general contractor in charge of repairing the glitch-plagued HealthCare.gov.

http://nypost.com/2013/11/01/obama-donors-firm-hired-to-fix-web-mess-it-helped-make/

This whole family are major, major Obama bundlers! Also, doing some research, I found something else.
Continued in next comment.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM

security flaws posed “limitless” risk

Limitless security risks? Identity theft? Who cares? In the Obama regimes, everything’s political.

Obama regime makes decisions primarily on the basis of politics, subordinating all other issues. Launch time for the website was a political decision, leaving security risks as an incidental consideration.

Obots worried that delaying the launch would advantage Repubs, so they decided to disregard the security risks, roll the dice, and go full speed ahead.

petefrt on November 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM

It just keeps getting better.

Ward Cleaver on November 12, 2013 at 12:51 PM

The Sgt. Schultz defense.

skeneogden on November 12, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Except that Sgt. Schultz was smart and just played dumb.

Schadenfreude on November 12, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Continued…

From same link above…

What’s more, UnitedHealth Group is one of the largest health-insurance companies in the country and spent millions lobbying for ObamaCare.

So, after reading this, I wondered is this part of United Health Care Company? That Company that is cancelling Health Care Policies?

The United Healthcare Health Insurance Company is a division of UnitedHealth Group, which is a major health insurance carrier in the United States. United Healthcare (UHC) is a company offering health insurance products to over 70 million Americans.

http://www.healthinsuranceproviders.com/united-healthcare-health-insurance-company-review/

I understand that I can’t read everything about this Issue, but if this was news anywhere, I certainly missed it.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 12:54 PM

I realize the subsidies provided to close to half the population are going to be like crack, it’s going to be really hard to get off of the subsidies. For these people it doesn’t matter if the quality of health care goes down the tubes and the website is a disaster and we are going to be heading toward being like Greece, these people are going to want the subsidies, no matter what, period. Like crack.

Speaking of Greece, a WaPo comment I saw in reference to single payer could even be in reference to Obamacare without single payer, because we are going to be spending such and incredible amount of money that the IPAB rationing board is going to have to severely cut the quanity of health care provided to keep the country from going bankrupt. The comment:

Single Payer works until the money runs out. Healthcare in Greece is a horror show now that the gov’t is broke. We’re 17 Tril in debt. How much Single Payer [OR Obamacare subsidies] do you think we have left on the Credit Card? [not much, rationing is in the cards!]

anotherJoe on November 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM

It’s times like this that I miss the resident lefties.

Bishop on November 12, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Well, this guy looks like a trustworthy fellow, no? Well, compared to Kim Jong Un.

drunyan8315 on November 12, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I think it would be easy to fire two-thirds of government staff and it would make no difference. But maybe it would minimize the I know nothing syndrome.

Dasher on November 12, 2013 at 1:02 PM

The plot is thicker than you think.

WASHINGTON — A tech firm linked to a campaign-donor crony of President Obama not only got the job to help build the federal health-insurance Web site — but also is getting paid to fix it.

Anthony Welters, a top campaign bundler for Obama and frequent White House guest, is the executive vice president of UnitedHealth Group, which owns the software company now at the center of the ObamaCare Web-site fiasco.

UnitedHealth Group subsidiary Quality Software Services Inc. (QSSI), which built the data hub for the ObamaCare system, has been named the new general contractor in charge of repairing the glitch-plagued HealthCare.gov.

http://nypost.com/2013/11/01/obama-donors-firm-hired-to-fix-web-mess-it-helped-make/

This whole family are major, major Obama bundlers! Also, doing some research, I found something else.
Continued in next comment.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM

The other major contractor on the website, CGI Federal also has close ties to the Obama’s.

Dasher on November 12, 2013 at 1:04 PM

This is one of the more exasperating aspects of the House GOP Leadership – they see this pattern in every clusterfark they investigate, yet, they still aren’t prepared to hit back at the Administration hard as they continue to play this game.

Athos on November 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM

They are part of the fraud & that’s why they cannot be a solution to anything. These “leaders” are joined at the hip and the only solution we have is to defeat them at the ballot box.

Cornyn out trying to convince Texas that he didn’t know anything. He’s a liar. All of the R’s knew exactly what this abomination was about and any benefit of the doubt was erased when 27 R’s did not join Senator Cruz to defund it.

They all can peddle their lies along side of Obama and his crew.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM

The other major contractor on the website, CGI Federal also has close ties to the Obama’s.

Dasher on November 12, 2013 at 1:04 PM

That the most open and transparent Administration in the history of this country is neck deep in crony capitalism shouldn’t be a surprise given their past history in other industries, like the green energy industry.

The patterns of behavior from this Administration has been constant, and they continue to demonstrate no interest, desire, and willingness to change these patterns. They are simply addicts who can’t admit they have a problem.

Athos on November 12, 2013 at 1:13 PM

anotherJoe on November 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Wait until they realize that getting Medical Care is not the same as paying for Obamacare. Quite a bit different than a free cell phone.

Rush said a few minutes ago that Medicaid is what they want everyone on & it will be the single payer. I’ve read that sometime ago. Especially after reading of the # of people signing up at the website (if they can get thru) on Medicaid. Many States have joined the Medicaid Expansion and that is where the numbers outweigh the Obamacare plans.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM

American government as a criminal conspiracy.

Mason on November 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM

They all suffer from amnesia.

Either they are all morons, or

They’re all fraudulent thugs.

Take your pick.

I miss bayam and Rywall, the ‘intelligent’ Canadians.

Schadenfreude on November 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM

If I were William Shatner or Dudley Do-Right, I’d be insulted.

itsspideyman on November 12, 2013 at 1:25 PM

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM

The other major contractor on the website, CGI Federal also has close ties to the Obama’s.

Dasher on November 12, 2013 at 1:04 PM

That wouldn’t surprise me. I’m sure UHC & this CGI had resources & Technical know how to build a website that would work! Unless so many parts were written separately and they just launched it.

Sounds like the way they wrote the Obamacare bill in the first place. Just section after section and merged them all and shazzam!

Big difference between a written doc and a website.

Too bad we don’t have a two party system anymore.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Incumbent Dem Sen. Kay Hagan’s 17-Point Lead Collapses After Obamacare Rollout Disaster…

Resist We Much on November 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Best news I heard today:-) One down and many to go!!

We all missed you, hope all is well.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 1:41 PM

If only there was someone who, like, wasn’t in political office but could read these bills and comments and memoes, like, in 2010 when it passed. Then they could use common sense to play the movie forward and prophecy the results. Once they checked the future scenarios with the politicians and bureaucrats who were going to implement the laws and regulations, then they could publish the findings and let the public know what was about to happen.
They could use the printing press and television and the internet to spread the word about what was coming. In fact, they probably should use all kinds of media to spread the word.
Now, if we could just come up with a name for this industry…

DublOh7 on November 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM

We all missed you, hope all is well.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Thank you. Everything is fine. I just took some time off to enjoy my Obamacare schadenfreude.

Resist We Much on November 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Rush said a few minutes ago that Medicaid is what they want everyone on & it will be the single payer. I’ve read that sometime ago. Especially after reading of the # of people signing up at the website (if they can get thru) on Medicaid. Many States have joined the Medicaid Expansion and that is where the numbers outweigh the Obamacare plans.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Last year, during the Euro-crisis, several of the architects of the Euro common currency admitted that they were aware that a crisis would result in the disparagy between ‘Northern Europe’ and ‘Southern Europe’ in terms of their spending, revenues, and entitlements. This was acceptable because the original primary goal was a political union, not just a financial union…and it was seen as the ‘best solution’ for the crisis was to form a political union.

Early in 2009, the farthest of the left in Congress working on ‘healthcare reform’ wanted a single payor system. One of the architects specifically wanted to use the now floundering Britain NHS as the model for US ‘reform’. However, single payor was not going to get enough support in Congress even with the super majorities. So it is clear to many that the intent behind Obamacare was to set a framework that would, like the common currency, result in a crisis a decade or two down the road, that would lead to single payor being the ‘only’ solution.

That’s why the regulations were written to make it next to impossible to have a grandfathered policy. That’s why the implementation was delayed until after the 2012 election, and so many waivers and extensions were issued into 2014-2018.

What wasn’t expected (by the progressives) was for the clusterfark to be that the minute it launched… All of the efforts to ‘fix’ this launch are premised on patching this clusterfark so that it can limp along and not implode for another decade. But it is so bad, it will implode before the 2016 election.

Athos on November 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Thank you. Everything is fine. I just took some time off to enjoy my Obamacare schadenfreude.

Resist We Much on November 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM

There is so much of it, you probably need more time off, LOL

Glad to hear all is well. We all need a break from the insanity in D.C. from time to time. I listen to music, read books and search for interesting background on old books.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Thank you. Everything is fine. I just took some time off to enjoy my Obamacare schadenfreude.

Resist We Much on November 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM

I can’t think of anyone who deserves it more than you…!

d1carter on November 12, 2013 at 1:52 PM

What wasn’t expected (by the progressives) was for the clusterfark to be that the minute it launched… All of the efforts to ‘fix’ this launch are premised on patching this clusterfark so that it can limp along and not implode for another decade. But it is so bad, it will implode before the 2016 election.

Athos on November 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM

I don’t see it even lasting until 2016. That they want a Single Payer system is understood because the objective is to destroy the Country.

The only solution I see is to repeal the entire thing. Anything short of that is worthless.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 2:12 PM

DublOh7 on November 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM

There is such a person that knows more than anyone about it. I’ll see if I can find the link for you.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 2:14 PM

DublOh7 on November 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Beating Obamacare: Your Handbook for the New Healthcare Law
by
Betsy McCaughey

http://betsymccaughey.com/

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-right/102913-677113-americans-duped-by-obamacare-promises.htm

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/authors/detail/betsy-mccaughey

She has been on Talk Radio, Fox News, Greta and many other programs.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Here is some more info about Henry Chao. Keep up the pressure. Looks like Henry Chao knows a lot more information which should be shared with his fellow Americans.

Reuters) – The government official identified as being responsible for a last-minute decision that helped jam up the Obamacare health insurance website has been a frequent presence at the White House, according to visitor logs.

Henry Chao, deputy chief information officer at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), was named Thursday in congressional testimony as the one who ordered the lead contractor to make consumers register before browsing for price information, a step avoided by popular online shopping sites such as Amazon.com.

As a result of this decision made just two weeks before the website went public on October 1, Healthcare.gov was overwhelmed with so many people trying to register at once that the site crashed, Cheryl Campbell, senior vice president of lead contractor CGI Federal, told U.S. lawmakers wanting to know why the site had so many problems.

“I believe it was Henry Chao and members of his team,” Campbell told the House of Representatives Energy and Commerce Committee.

White House visitor records show Chao visiting the White House 36 times between November 2011 and May 2013, with one visit in December 2009, to see President Barack Obama’s advisers including health care and technology officials.

Starting in May 2012 Chao began visiting often, spending time in the White House or Old Executive Office Building, where many administration offices are based, multiple times per month. He visited at least once monthly between May 2012 and May 2013.

Though he met with an array of officials, he most frequently saw White House healthcare official Jeanne Lambrew.

Two of Chao’s visits with Lambrew followed his comments at a conference on March 14, 2013, when he said he was “pretty nervous” about the roll-out of the law’s online system.

Let’s just make sure it’s not a third-world experience,” CQ reported Chao saying at the time. He then visited the White House on March 19 and March 26.

Chao also met White House Chief Technology Officer Todd Park twice – in April 2012 and January 2013 – and then-Chief Information Officer Steven VanRoekel in February 2012.

Chao was a point of contact for contractor CGI Federal as it worked to build the technology backbone of the Healthcare.gov website. CGI Federal is a unit of Canada-based CGI Group Inc.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/25/us-usa-healthcare-chao-idUSBRE99O01F20131025

wren on November 12, 2013 at 3:18 PM

They say that Satan is the father of lies.

claudius on November 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM

The reason you write a CYA memo is to CYA from superiors or inferiors not doing what you think is correct…

ergo, Trenkle sent it up the chain of command at least 1 level. If the memo is public, who is CC’d on it.

Keith_Indy on November 12, 2013 at 3:29 PM

He later added: “It is disturbing. I mean, I don’t deny that this is … a fairly nonstandard way” to proceed.

A little soft-pedaling going on?

“Disturbing”? Noooo. It’s downright reprehensible and revolting that this administration would move forward with the use of these sites knowing full well the risks involved for every citizen that attempts to use them.

A “non-standard way” to proceed? How ’bout we tell it like it like it is? These are disgustingly immoral practices that this government has decided is completely acceptable. The “little people” that are left vulnerable and exposed to every crooked hacker that exists are not their concern.

Skip the moderated language that lessens the intensity of this offense that is being committed against the People. Mild words are just another insult, as they most certainly fail in describing the indifference being shown by this administration to all Americans.

lynncgb on November 12, 2013 at 3:42 PM

wren on November 12, 2013 at 3:18 PM

I don’t know wren. When this website blew up, everyone connected with it in any way were all trying to head for the hills. It was a not me, not me.

Henry Chao was an information officer at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) He wasn’t a Technical Officer, a Website Programmer or involved with the Security aspect of the site. I think he’s a scapegoat. Remember it wasn’t he that signed off on the Security, it was Marilyn Tavenner.

The Lead Technical Officer, Tony Trenkle never signed off on Security for the site. He was the one that wrote the Sept 3rd memo
quote: said “the threat and risk potential (to the system) is limitless.” The memo shows CMS gave deadlines of mid-2014 and early 2015 to address them… Since Marilyn Tavenner was his boss, then he would have reported that info to her imo. Trenkle would not have given it to Chao, a non Technical person.

Keep in mind, the Chain of Command.

Obama has been running this show since the beginning. Imo, the chain goes like this:

Obama>Sebelius>Marilyn Tavenner>Tony Trenkle>Chao and or many others.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM

wren on November 12, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Hi Wren! Sorry I didn’t greet you. Was caught up in this article, then was cooking and then phone calls!!

Hope all is going ok with you. I think we’re all trying to keep focused since we have more enemies than we thot. Well, I guess what I mean is that they came out of that “back room”:-)

Hopefully, we can defeat many of those on both sides.

Take care!!

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Sorry, but if you are a PM and you don’t know that the multi hundred million dollar product you are responsible for is severely flawed and then it is released, you ***MUST*** be fired for being a complete dysfunctional moron! You don’t deserve to breathe the same air as people with one ounce of intelligence! YOU ARE FIRED!

But it doesn’t stop with this guy. Just like when a subordinate screws up on a Sub and as a result the sub surfaces into a surface ship, the Commanding Officer is also let go. Sorry, Sebelius and Soetro, you too are FIRED!! Worse, when the Captain blatently lies to cover his arse or to get re-elected.

I would welcome a bumbling idiot Biden to fill out Obama’s remaining term as he will be necessary to remind people of the “Lets vote for it so we can find out what’s in it” intelligence that is so rampant in the Democrat party.

stuartm80127 on November 12, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Once again, it’s not often in life that you are so completely vindicated, so soon after your declaration.

Obama the Dope is the gift that keeps on giving.

Jaibones on November 12, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Or as Dennis Green might have said — they are who we said they are.

Jaibones on November 12, 2013 at 6:19 PM

You don’t need no stinkin’ security measures.

1 If the website doesn’t work, it’[s genuine.
2 If the website work, it’s fraudulent.

MaiDee on November 12, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Keep in mind, the Chain of Command.

Obama has been running this show since the beginning. Imo, the chain goes like this:

Obama>Sebelius>Marilyn Tavenner>Tony Trenkle>Chao and or many others.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Hi Bluefox. Good to see you here, as always!

I agree with your chain of command. And if it were up to me, the entire chain would have been fired no later than October 2nd.

Having worked on several large systems projects in my past as a non-technical Business Anaylst, I have to completely agree with:

Sorry, but if you are a PM and you don’t know that the multi hundred million dollar product you are responsible for is severely flawed and then it is released, you ***MUST*** be fired for being a complete dysfunctional moron! You don’t deserve to breathe the same air as people with one ounce of intelligence! YOU ARE FIRED!

stuartm80127 on November 12, 2013 at 6:16 PM

One doesn’t need much technical expertise to understand that if you order a major change in the structure of the system in mid-September, then there isn’t going to be nearly enough time to test the system before it launches on October 1.

But being the reasonable conservative that I am, I would be willing to grant Henry Chao some form of limited immunity if he agrees to provide detailed information to Congress on who else is to blame for the epic failure of Healthcare.gov.

If Mr. Chao was high enough on the project food chain to meet with people at the White House 36+ times then he must have a lot of important information to share.

Keep the pressure on Henry Chao!

wren on November 12, 2013 at 7:41 PM

A Banana website for a Banana Regime.

I bet Venezuela could do a better job.

Sherman1864 on November 12, 2013 at 8:36 PM

7 Phases of a Project.

1.Enthusiasm

2.Planning

3.Disillusionment

4.Fear/Panic

5.Search for the Guilty

6.Punishment of the Innocent

7.Praise and Honors for the Non-Participants

I’d say that we’re in stages 4 and 5 right now.

schmuck281 on November 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM

wren on November 12, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Thanks Wren!!

I’m with you on firing the entire chain and replacing them, LOL

It’s always been protect Obama at all costs. Everyone has a place under that bus if the time comes.

This Obamacare website was so huge and so many people were involved that I find it hard to believe that one person was in charge. It was too big.

I think Chao is being given way too much importance in this.
The website was being built to sync with the DOD, Homeland Security, Medicaid and a couple of other large Government Agencies.
And Chao was head honcho over all of that??? Sorry, I don’t believe it.

But we’ll see & time will tell as more and more is being revealed:-)

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Firing squad!

But I was just there to collect my check, you know, like everyone else!

claudius on November 12, 2013 at 9:15 PM

This Obamacare website was so huge and so many people were involved that I find it hard to believe that one person was in charge. It was too big.

I think Chao is being given way too much importance in this.
The website was being built to sync with the DOD, Homeland Security, Medicaid and a couple of other large Government Agencies.
And Chao was head honcho over all of that??? Sorry, I don’t believe it.

But we’ll see & time will tell as more and more is being revealed:-)

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM

I’m sure there is plenty of blame to go around on many, many issues!

And if Henry Chao knows where the bodies are buried, I want him to keep talking.

A systems project that is this large and connected to so many different agencies must have a slew of sign-off requirements at multiple stages of development.

Every person who was on a sign-off list should receive a supoena to tell their version of the story at a Congressional Hearing.

wren on November 12, 2013 at 9:27 PM

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM

I’m sure there is plenty of blame to go around on many, many issues!

And if Henry Chao knows where the bodies are buried, I want him to keep talking.

A systems project that is this large and connected to so many different agencies must have a slew of sign-off requirements at multiple stages of development.

Every person who was on a sign-off list should receive a supoena to tell their version of the story at a Congressional Hearing.

wren on November 12, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Oh, I agree that many more need to be in front of a Hearing, one way or the other.

They didn’t get much if anything out of Sebelius and that Marilyn Tavenner. What I heard of the latter was just talking points.

Oh, I just remembered the Social Security Admin. & the IRS was the other two. Massive Project.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Oh, I just remembered the Social Security Admin. & the IRS was the other two. Massive Project.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Massive project, agreed!

And they increased the complexity when they added unnecesary functionality like Voter Registration.

There is absolutely no reason that Voter Registration should have anything at all to do with a health insurance website.

Whoever signed-off on adding Voter Registration to the healthcare.gov website has some ‘splaining to do to Congress.

This is why the government should never be given any more power than is absolutely necessary.

Get government away from my health insurance!

wren on November 12, 2013 at 10:27 PM

And they increased the complexity when they added unnecesary functionality like Voter Registration.

There is absolutely no reason that Voter Registration should have anything at all to do with a health insurance website.

Whoever signed-off on adding Voter Registration to the healthcare.gov website has some ‘splaining to do to Congress.

This is why the government should never be given any more power than is absolutely necessary.

Get government away from my health insurance!

wren on November 12, 2013 at 10:27 PM

I forgot about the Voter Registration! Egads, what a mess. I agree we need to know who added that. I recall back in 2009 during the summer up into the fall, that Sebelius was given very broad powers within Obamacare. So I’m sure she added this. Same thing when she came out with the Mandate that Contraceptives, i.e. morning after pill, etc had to be in and paid for by Catholic Universaties, Hospitals etc. She was directed to do this, like I said Obama is the head of this and everyone else takes orders.

Someone posted a link saying that Al Queda has coverage under Obamacare!!! Now I can’t find the HA site I saw it on!

Sometimes this is all too much. Going to see if I can find that link:-)

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Found it: http://pjmedia.com/blog/medicaid-for-al-qaeda-obamacare-flaw-allows-anyone-on-earth-to-fraudulently-enroll-through-healthcare-gov/

Then I found this:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/11/u-s-gives-illegal-aliens-29-mil-in-rx-meds/

Well, I think I’ll go listen to some music and read a nice book:-)

Have a good evening wren.

bluefox on November 12, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Look, anyone who knows anything about programming of personal data SHOULD know about security. I mean, how foolish are these people?

Even if the Dems thought this would lead to single payor, what makes anyone think single payor would be any better for 320,000,000 people than the current fiasco?

Security, security, security. Then again, people who know this weren’t asked to help.

Sebelius should have known – she made enough mistakes in Kansas that Republican Brownback and company had to fix.

MN J on November 13, 2013 at 12:55 AM

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