Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on November 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

In an era of wrenching economic and social change, voters bet their hopes on a little-tested leader who a) echoed their disillusionment, b) pledged to end polarization, c) defied his party’s extremists, d) embraced the task of tackling big problems, e) and seemed authentic.

And so it happened in 1992, 2000 and 2008 that Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama became president. Judging by his rhetoric after a landslide re-election Tuesday, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie hopes to package himself as the “Perfect Candidate for Troubled Times,” version 4.0.

Voters crave – and the nation needs – a transformational president to lead America into the post-industrial era, just as Theodore Roosevelt reset U.S. political and social institutions for the post-agricultural era. But after three less-than-promised presidencies, voters may not be inclined to buy the hype.

And yet, it begins. Interviewed on four Sunday news shows, Christie pushed all the familiar buttons.

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New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, fresh off a lopsided re-election victory propelling him to the front ranks of 2016 presidential contenders, has problems at home that could complicate his ambitions—the economy and the budget.

Among the headwinds for the Republican as he sets an agenda for 2014: a state unemployment rate of 8.5% in August, compared with 7.3% nationally (and among the 10 highest of all states); a slower recovery from the recession compared with the nation; and a budget with a slimmer surplus than those in most of the rest of the country…

“New Jersey is lagging. If you want to lead the country, you have to want to lead, not lag,” said former Gov. Tom Kean, about the state’s economy.

“The whole focus on New Jersey and the weak spots are going to be there,” added Mr. Kean, a Republican who is one of Mr. Christie’s close advisers. “If he neglects New Jersey at all, and things get out of hand, that’s going to be a problem.”

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If Christie is not careful, he might come across as a repeat of both Giuliani and George W. Bush. Like Bush, Christie will be running on his ballot-box and bipartisan successes, his impressive-for-a-Republican showing among minority voters, and the contrast between himself and the bickering divided government in Washington.

Bush failed to replicate much of his Texas experience nationally, a real possibility for Christie as well. It is easier to run against a polarizing incumbent governor or a sacrificial-lamb challenger abandoned by the Democrats, as they both did in state politics, than to best a fully invested national challenger.

In an effort to distinguish himself from Cruz and especially Paul, Christie has also at times sounded like Bush-Giuliani 2.0 on foreign policy and civil liberties. This is an abandonment of the more nuanced approach he took in his 2011 speech at the Reagan Library, which didn’t break with neoconservative orthodoxy in any of its particulars, but at least paid lip service to the concerns of less interventionist conservatives in the party.

If a vote for Christie is seen as a vote for bluster at home and bombing abroad, he won’t live up to his potential to grow the Republican Party as much as some of his Tea Party opponents might.

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That goes to show that the old one-two punch of people-versus-the-powerful and cultural demagoguery just does not work on certain candidates, those whose mere presence somehow reveals the entire schtick to be as vacuous as it truly is. Christie is just that sort of Republican. He is pro-life, but nobody was ever going to tag him as a dangerous Holy Roller. He went after the labor unions with vigor, but Democrats did not even try to tag him as an enemy of the common man. He has his fair share of friends at the corner of Wall and Broad Streets, but he never gives the impression that he’s in their pocket. The Democrats could have given Buono $50 million to run the Clinton playbook against Christie, and she still would have lost.

Those are the sorts of qualities the Republican nominee must have to take on Clintonism in three years’ time. But that is not to say Christie is the man for the job, at least not yet. His problem is that—so far—he looks to be a divisive figure within his own party. Many conservatives are suspicious of him. Whether their reasons are legitimate or not is beside the point. One of the (many) causes of Cuccinelli’s failure in Virginia was that his own coalition was divided between the “grassroots” (who loved him) and the “establishment” (who did not). This sort of division, if taken into 2016, will prove crippling. Alienate the grassroots, and watch the base stay home. Alienate the establishment, and watch the big-money donors withdraw. The party must find a candidate who not only is immune to Clintonism, but also does not exacerbate existing divisions within the GOP coalition. All hands will have to be on deck in 2016.

Whether Christie is that candidate is still to be seen. A lot of questions remain. Can he reassure the base? Can he appeal not simply to the Northeast, but also the Midwest, where elections are won and lost? Can he stand up to Clintonism when it is actually being administered by a Clinton and funded by half a billion dollars (or more)?

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Steve Elmendorf, who served as deputy campaign manager for then-Sen. John Kerry’s 2004 presidential bid, said Christie has “a conflict between appearing authentic and becoming unhinged.”

“People like the fact that he gets angry and yells at people sometimes. But they don’t want their next president to be unhinged.”…

“He is very loose with what he says, and he comes across as blunt and outspoken,” Paul Swibinski, a New Jersey-based Democratic strategist said. “It plays really well in New Jersey, the kinda Tony Soprano, Bill Parcells, Chris Christie thing of being big, tough, straight-talking Jersey guys. But how well it plays in the rest of the country remains to be seen.”

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In coronating the rotund governor as the next sure-fire GOP presidential nominee in 2016, none of the mainstream media pointed out his stances on issues that they no doubt hate: Mr. Christie vetoed a bill that would have legalized same-sex marriage, vetoed several “gender parity” bills and was for abortion until he was against it. Of course, the same media played up his support of gun control and a Dream Act-like immigration overhaul. And they noted repeatedly that the governor had not followed through on a threat to appeal New Jersey’s top court ruling legalizing gay marriage.

The kingmaking certainly has shades of the media love affair with Sen. John “Maverick” McCain. The MSM loved his battle with the conservative wing of the Republican Party and lauded him as a true moderate, capable of bridging partisan gaps to work for the betterment of all. Sound familiar?

Once nominated, though, that same MSM lashed Mr. McCain as nothing more than a vicious right-winger in moderate’s clothing. Sure, the Arizona senator was forced to move right to get through the party’s primaries (as Mr. Christie likely will be), but gone was the love for their “maverick.”…

[T]he media love affair will end the second Mr. Christie wins the nomination. And you always have to wonder: If the media loves him so much, just what’s wrong with him?

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Hi Scrumpy. Tomorrow night there will be mischief. From me and you.

SparkPlug on November 12, 2013 at 2:18 AM

I’m glad Scrumpy stopped smoking. She will be unstoppable now cause she can do anything. Pikers beware.

SparkPlug on November 12, 2013 at 2:20 AM

In the cold Kentucky Rain

Anti-Control on November 12, 2013 at 2:22 AM

A belated Veterans Day wish ahd hope for all who have served are serving and will serve in all Branches of the Military:

God Bless You ALL for your Dedicated Service to keep our nation free.

On a side note;

Our nation is going down the tubes, there are still approximately 22 million prior service members and about 2 million active duty, attention, WE MAY NEED YOU once again to SAVE OUR COUNTRY!!

Heard somthing on the radio as I tossed and turned earlier, we all need to quit our jobs, get off the grid, live meagerly, and stop this Police State and Govt from taking us down any further.
It will be very painful, we cannot have a battle here, it has to be done by taking away the money that supports all that is currently happening…

Scrumpy on November 12, 2013 at 2:23 AM

SparkPlug on November 12, 2013 at 2:20 AM

lol, when I put my mind to it, yes, I can be unstoppable!

Good to see you Sparky :)

Scrumpy on November 12, 2013 at 2:25 AM

One tragic shame that we can all work toward stopping is helping any and all homeless people, especially all the homeless vets out there.

Our small town took on a challenge and many people participated, we all need to be educated on what it is like to be homeless, the exercise was done in a building for one day, people were assigned as homeless with a piece of paper and various issues or illnesses etc on it, other people were assigned to positions to help and others were given notes to harrass a homeless person, and others just maybe passed a note that would say dinner or coffee, it was eye opening! A wonderful exercise in coming to terms and discovering how difficult it is to be homeless in this economy.

We also during the summer, built a cardboard ‘village’ and regular folk lived like that for 24 hrs also eye opening!

Perhaps other communities could also do somthing like this :)

Scrumpy on November 12, 2013 at 2:31 AM

I am now going to try and sleep again!

God Bless whom ever is still here and God Bless everyone who stops by later in the morning!!

Good Night peeps :)

* swoosh *

Scrumpy on November 12, 2013 at 2:34 AM

Video’s great, but…

Joe Tex – “I Gotcha”

Better audio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKNaPCe4pOc

Anti-Control on November 12, 2013 at 2:38 AM

i assume that one reason Rs chatter about who is next in line, is that they have zero clue on what to do about barry care.

the country is in a fix, and they talk trash about the TP and watch the entrails for clues about the next ‘leader’ Total BS

i don’t think the RINO party is up to the task…but at least maybe the rs could make observations about how it should have been done.

for example, leftists are constrained by their hatred of docs, and how much they make. As a result they exchanges have thinly populated doctore networks. Docs are afraid to sign up to some draconian scheme, where they are lunch.

barry is a very stupid man. The whole point of h/c is to provide docs that people like and trust…that is what you are selling. So you need to work with insurers early and often to have a full roster of happy docs waiting to serve people

it you build a good product, people will come. If you are a half-ass, trash talking revolutionary…well…maybe your approval is limited.

RINOs do not seem to understand any better than your average leftist.
i.e. we’re at war, and they don’t know what tank is

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-11/hope-is-all-obamacare-has-left.html

r keller on November 12, 2013 at 3:04 AM

In Arizona, the average monthly premium for a 27-year-old is expected to soar to $261.87 a month, up from $102.

And the same story is told in the other states. But, as the young author of the article I linked to (Katrina Trinko ) above says: “We have lower incomes.”

Plus, on top of that, the younger folk tend to be saddled with more debt, as student loans, while older people, in contrast, tend to have built up assets, like home equity. It’s amazing that the progressives all voted for this incredibly regressive form of government modulated health insurance.

anotherJoe on November 12, 2013 at 3:09 AM

Liberal Chris Christie is in favor of illegal alien amnesty.

Conservatives and anyone who cares about the country ought to work to stop this man Christie (or any pro-amnesty politician) from getting the nomination or becoming president.

bluegill on November 12, 2013 at 4:14 AM

Who was the last Next In Line Republican who actually won the WH?

GWB wasn’t the NIL, John McCain was back in 2000.

GHWB was the NIL, but lost to Reagan and had to go through 8 years as VP, win what most saw as the 3rd term of Reagan and then lost to Clinton.

Ford was President, and was nearly undone by Reagan in ’76. That ticked off enough party leaders to back GHWB.

Nixon? He came out of supposed retirement after rehabbing his image post-JFK loss. He dealt with George Romney relatively easily with an unforced Romney error, and had no real opposition after that. If he was the last recent NIL by the R’s then there is something seriously, deeply, and perhaps irrevocably wrong with the Party.

Even worse is that there are no R’s with as few scruples about dealing with any opposition as Nixon had, while Democrats seem to have gone down that road with great fervor. You either have to be deeply appealing to the American People, be seen as an alternative to the end of a Presidency that has a not so hot VP, or have the lack of scruples Nixon had.

Chris Christie isn’t going to be seeing any real Joe Biden run, so that kills that option. And he doesn’t have the Reaganesque deep appeal. He has more scruples than Nixon.

A NIL loser.

That goes for Jeb, too.

You either need someone with broad appeal way beyond politics, or someone with the scruples of Nixon. NILs are just place-holders, not candidates: they want to win the beauty pageant inside the R Party, not run for President. Good losers is what they wish to be.

Yes something deeply wrong with the party.

It needs an internal turnover to get rid of its current Elites and go back to control of its party members. Because when the top is all loser, that doesn’t help the rest at all.

ajacksonian on November 12, 2013 at 6:03 AM

Are we seriously going go get a love note on behalf of Christie every single day for the next three years? Does anybody outside the MSM really think that he is the great white whale that the GOP needs to pursue in order to regain the White House?

Speaking for myself, there is no way in hell I will vote for the escaped Macy’s Parade Balloon. He is anti-Second Amendment, pro-Amnesty, anti-abortion only when he is trying to put up a facade of being a conservative and pro-murder when dealing with the NJ Dems.

On top of that he yells at people and is a rude boor which refutes his claims of being the next Ronald Reagan. Reagan knew how to cut his adversaries down in such a polite way they didn’t realize they were bleeding until later.

Happy Nomad on November 12, 2013 at 6:38 AM

Nixon? He came out of supposed retirement after rehabbing his image post-JFK loss. He dealt with George Romney relatively easily with an unforced Romney error, and had no real opposition after that. If he was the last recent NIL by the R’s then there is something seriously, deeply, and perhaps irrevocably wrong with the Party.

And don’t forget Nelson Rockerfeller, who was the NIL in 1964 but was famously upset by Barry Goldwater (in an intraparty revolt led by WFB and Reagan). Rockerfeller refused to endorse Goldwater.

You either need someone with broad appeal way beyond politics, or someone with the scruples of Nixon. NILs are just place-holders, not candidates: they want to win the beauty pageant inside the R Party, not run for President. Good losers is what they wish to be.

Yes something deeply wrong with the party.

It needs an internal turnover to get rid of its current Elites and go back to control of its party members. Because when the top is all loser, that doesn’t help the rest at all.

ajacksonian on November 12, 2013 at 6:03 AM

The GOPe, quite frankly, has been broken since FDR demagogued it to death in the 1930s. That’s 80 FREAKING YEARS.

It may actually be more productive for conservatives to detach from the GOPe as a separate party and let the GOPe fade into political oblivion.

Myron Falwell on November 12, 2013 at 6:41 AM

BTW, Today is 11/12/13….. Bring up that fact at work and you too can be as annoying as the hump day camel.

Happy Nomad on November 12, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls. O/T:

I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me,

– President Barack Hussein Obama, November 7, 2013
My take: “Reviewing the Obamacare Roll-out Like a “Real World” Product Launch”

kingsjester on November 12, 2013 at 6:49 AM

And don’t forget Nelson Rockerfeller, who was the NIL in 1964 but was famously upset by Barry Goldwater (in an intraparty revolt led by WFB and Reagan). Rockerfeller refused to endorse Goldwater.

The circumstances surrounding Rockefeller’s death proves the fact that there is some sort of karma in the world.

Happy Nomad on November 12, 2013 at 6:51 AM

My take: “Reviewing the Obamacare Roll-out Like a “Real World” Product Launch”

kingsjester on November 12, 2013 at 6:49 AM

The product is unwanted.
The website is not operable.
The public is finding the cost of purchase is too high.

This would never be a real world product launch. It’s why the administration and Dems are forcing people into Obamacare against their will. Why? The bastards can not sell people on Obamacare based on lower costs, higher quality, or inclusion of expanded coverage that people want. It is a wealth redistribution scheme that fundamentally affects every single American in an adverse way though some of them are too damned stupid to see that when they read the administration propaganda that pushes unwanted “benefits” as comprehensive covergage. If you are young and have women parts then there is a whole swag bag of stuff included in Obamacare. Not so much if you are older or male.

Happy Nomad on November 12, 2013 at 6:57 AM

RINOs do not seem to understand any better than your average leftist.
i.e. we’re at war, and they don’t know what tank is

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-11/hope-is-all-obamacare-has-left.html

r keller on November 12, 2013 at 3:04 AM

As my favorite HotAir quote says:

“The Left is at war with the Right
and the Right thinks it’s having a political discussion.”

(Wish I could remember who said it first)

Cleombrotus on November 12, 2013 at 7:11 AM

As the GOPe realizes that they’re losing the Conservative Base with Gov. Zeppelin, look for them to push harder and harder for Amnesty.

kingsjester on November 12, 2013 at 7:22 AM

As the GOPe realizes that they’re losing the Conservative Base with Gov. Zeppelin, look for them to push harder and harder for Amnesty.

kingsjester on November 12, 2013 at 7:22 AM

To what end? The conservative base doesn’t want amnesty. Do they really think that they are that bulletproof at the ballot box?

Happy Nomad on November 12, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Happy Nomad on November 12, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Replacements. They refuse to believe that the illegals will vote Democrat.

kingsjester on November 12, 2013 at 7:27 AM

Replacements. They refuse to believe that the illegals will vote Democrat.

kingsjester on November 12, 2013 at 7:27 AM

If the surrender weasels think they can so blatantly pass amnesty that illegals are able to vote in 2014, it really would be time to consider a “third party” and let the GOP go the way of the Whigs.

Happy Nomad on November 12, 2013 at 7:45 AM

This would never be a real world product launch. It’s why the administration and Dems are forcing people into Obamacare against their will.

Why?

Happy Nomad on November 12, 2013 at 6:57 AM

Because they’re Communists at heart and that’s what Communists do.

Cleombrotus on November 12, 2013 at 7:51 AM

It’s going to be hard to beat all that money and the lsm. Gonna take someone who’s a lot smarter than Blimpie. Cruz really outsmarted the GOPe in Sept and they won’t forgive him for that. He didn’t detract from the roll out, he highlighted it and the lsm unwittingly assisted. Now the GOP party can’t be hung with this albatross and even the dicktator in chief has stopped calling it Obamacare. Hardest hit are the insurance companies who thought they were being given a whole new load of customers and would end up in premium utopia. They ended up with a load alright.

Kissmygrits on November 12, 2013 at 8:44 AM

It will be interesting watching Christie and Jeb rip the RINO guts from each other.

Mr. Arrogant on November 12, 2013 at 8:45 AM

I thought Groundhog’s Day was in February…

Fallon on November 12, 2013 at 9:24 AM

BTW, Today is 11/12/13….. Bring up that fact at work and you too can be as annoying as the hump day camel.

Happy Nomad on November 12, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Honking my own horn:

Oh, in a few minutes it will be 9:10 11-12-13 (Eastern time).

I’m going to try to hit it. Six minutes to go.

*waiting…*

Four minutes to go.

*waiting…*

Two…

And, Post!

Fallon on November 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM

There is still time for the other time zones.

Fallon on November 12, 2013 at 9:26 AM

I’m telling you RINOs this now… if Christie is the nominee, I will not be voting for him. I will vote down-ticket, or maybe an independent… but I will not fall in line this time. So don’t even try playing the “but it’s the lesser of two evils”. It won’t work. If you want my vote, nominate someone who will represent my conservative values. If you want my vote, nominate someone to attract my vote.

dominigan on November 12, 2013 at 9:54 AM

If the surrender weasels think they can so blatantly pass amnesty that illegals are able to vote in 2014, it really would be time to consider a “third party” and let the GOP go the way of the Whigs.

Happy Nomad on November 12, 2013 at 7:45 AM

Yes.

dominigan on November 12, 2013 at 9:55 AM

I’ll stay home before I’ll vote for that disgusting treasonous grotesque lard bucket.

jqc1970 on November 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM

I like the Fattie, but I can’t see him as POTUS or even the nominee.

Frankly, I don’t see much chance of avoiding Shrillery. The “it’s a gurl’s turn” press will be unstoppable. We’ve had our black POTUS and we’ll have our female next.

MJBrutus on November 12, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Never gonna happen.

Bmore on November 12, 2013 at 2:55 PM

I know a female that is actually a female. She would be 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 + times better than what we currently are enjoying. Palin.

Bmore on November 12, 2013 at 2:56 PM

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