Breaking: Fewer than 50,000 people have enrolled in health plans via ObamaCare website thus far, says WSJ

posted at 5:41 pm on November 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

Add in another 50,000 people or so who’ve signed up on the individual state exchanges and you’ve got roughly 100,000 total enrollees through all of October and 10 days of November. The program’s target for October alone was 494,620. And that figure represents what they thought would be a “slow” month, as the public gradually got up to speed on the need to sign up before December 15th. If you’re looking at the bigger picture, they’re aiming for seven million new enrollees by March 31 of next year. They’re 1.4 percent of the way there with almost 25 percent of the initial enrollment period having already elapsed.

They’re in trouble.

So far, private health plans have received enrollment data for 40,000 to 50,000 users of the federal marketplace, the people familiar with the figures said. The federal marketplace uses an industry-standard format to exchange enrollment information, known as an 834 transmission…

In some cases, insurers have reported duplicated 834s and other data-integrity problems, but the people familiar with the matter said they believed these figures reflected an accurate count of enrollments through late last week…

The initial federal numbers set for release this week are expected to show enrollment only through the end of October, so the figures are expected to be lower. Efforts to clean up the data and reduce duplications could further cull the formal count.

The administration hasn’t said whether it will release demographic data such as ages when it announces the number of enrollees.

Fearless prediction: They’re not going to release the demographic data. The only way to make these numbers look more dismal than they are is if it turns out that many, or even most, of the 100,000 who’ve enrolled are older people or people with preexisting conditions. Which, in fairness to the feds, was always likely to be the case in the first weeks after launching the exchange, even if things had gone swimmingly with the website otherwise. It stands to reason that the people most eager to get coverage are those who’ve been locked out of it or been paying higher premiums in the past. It’s one thing to make that point, though, when you’ve got 500,000 new enrollees on the books and can cite such a robust figure as proof that the “young healthies” are out there and are on their way into the risk pool. It’s another to make that point when you’ve got one-tenth that number, which means a skewed pool and circumstantial evidence that maybe the “young healthies” have now been discouraged from even trying to sign up. In fact, the Journal published a story just a week ago quoting insurers as saying the early enrollees thus far are older than they expected. If, for the reason I just gave, they were already expecting an older, sicker crop among the early enrollees, how much older and sicker must the data they’re seeing be for them to be surprised at the extent of it?

Peter Suderman says it’s time to start thinking about worst-case scenarios:

The potential problems are not confined to the near term either. Very soon, the short-term technical troubles could begin to have meaningful longer-term policy consequences. Insurers must decide what plans to offer and what rates to charge in the first half of next year. If enrollment is low, if the exchanges are still broken, and if the president and his administration are still losing credibility and popularity as a result of the rollout debacle, how will insurers react? By pulling plans from the market? By raising rates?…

This could still be turned around, perhaps even soon. But it’s time to start considering the worst-case scenarios: that the exchanges continue to malfunction, that plan cancellations go into effect, that insurers see the political winds shifting and stop playing nice with the administration, and that significant numbers of people are left stranded without coverage as a result. Rather than reforming the individual market, which was flawed but did work for some people, Obamacare will have destroyed it and left only dysfunction and chaos in its wake.

Yuval Levin said not long ago that you can’t start talking about a “death spiral” until things have actually spiraled — not just higher rates next year, in other words, but higher rates year after year as the cost of maintaining coverage becomes prohibitively expensive for more and more middle class people and they end up dropping it, leaving only older, sicker people in the pool. As Suderman notes, if low enrollment persists into the spring and the 2015 rates are set based on that data, we might have our first full downward turn in the spiral. Exit question: How long before Obama announces some sort of extension of next year’s enrollment deadline? Over/under is Friday.


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Schadenfreude, pure!!!

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Plus, Utopian do-gooderism ain’t so good.

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Socialism not such a sweet pill.

I miss the trolls.

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 5:45 PM

There were nearly twice that number of people at the last football game I attended.

rplat on November 11, 2013 at 5:45 PM

In that state number of 49,100 is Medicaid enrollments which are counted in both Hawaii and Rhode Island as they do not separate them out.

Ca97 on November 11, 2013 at 5:46 PM

They’re 1.4 percent of the way there

“That’s double than what I thought. I consider it a total success” — any leftist idiot defending it on TV

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 5:46 PM

There’s always the Saddam Option, point an AK at people and they will be more likely to do what you say.

Bishop on November 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Even if they say it’s fixed who in their right mind would trust it now?Only fools or no nothings would put their personal info on that site.

docflash on November 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Holiday news dump.

hillsoftx on November 11, 2013 at 5:51 PM

that insurers see the political winds shifting and stop playing nice with the administration,

I hope they all go under, every one who cooperated with their own demise. It w/b incredibly schadenfreudig, and they deserve it in full.

and that significant numbers of people are left stranded without coverage as a result. Rather than reforming the individual market, which was flawed but did work for some people, Obamacare will have destroyed it and left only dysfunction and chaos in its wake.

What he planned all along. He is the most transparent president in all of history. He didn’t plan on being exposed so soon, so nakedly.

May he go under with his signature destruction.

Wait until you see dead people on TV…which will be next year, which is soon.

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Obamacare will have destroyed it and left only dysfunction and chaos in its wake.

Then Obama has won – he intended to destroy the private insurance industry.

redguy on November 11, 2013 at 5:53 PM

They needed that number in the first week alone.

Johnnyreb on November 11, 2013 at 5:53 PM

That actually sounds like quite a few considering the difficulty of signing in.

astonerii on November 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM

I believe the Medicaid enrollments polluting the Hawaii and Rhode Island number may also be mixed into several other states as well, even though the article claims otherwise. In addition, of the ObamaCare enrollees I wonder how many have actually paid an invoice. In the first weeks there were plenty of stories of people being enrolled who did it want to be (they were on the exchanges investigating prices only) so I also wonder if the 100K is a reflection of buyers who really did intend to buy.

MTF on November 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM

but,but, eleventy-million-thirty one website hits!

/Lib

hillsoftx on November 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM

One big sacrificial lamb…Israel. He is now so desperate for a deal with Iran that he’ll sacrifice anyone and anything. YOU watch. The US has zero leverage and zero demands of Iran, so long as the topic diverts from this unheard-of-before-clusterfark.

obama thinks he’s smarter than all the other people in the world. This couldn’t happen to a more thuggish fraud, a charlatan, and the stupid people who brung/kept him.

He is sick in the head and the land is stuck with him for 3 more years. Pray for Biden and Boehner and God help the land.

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Dear Leader = destruction and chaos.

d1carter on November 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Until we have a record of how many enrollees actually pay for their service, the “enrollment” numbers mean even less.

Deafdog on November 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM

And each and every one of them had both A) NO PRIOR COVERAGE and B) A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION THAT COULDNT BE COVERED ANYWHERE ANYTIME EVER, right?

Would DogEater Reggie-Smoocher lie?

Jeddite on November 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

How long before Obama announces some sort of extension of next year’s enrollment deadline? Over/under is Friday.

Depends on just how accurate the WSJ numbers are.

But that really doesn’t solve the problems of people who will be without insurance come January. All extending the deadline does is make the IRS to wait to come out after those not enrolled.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Still a bogus number:
1) How many older/pre-exist
2) # deflected to medicaid
3) How many Americans who have cancel notices on their desk

Net # please….

hillsoftx on November 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Reuters says 3% of target.

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Not to worry, the rules will be changed so it is deemed a success.

albill on November 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM

How long before Obama announces some sort of extension of next year’s enrollment deadline? Over/under is Friday.

Ins cos are already balking–their premiums are estimated annually to make their balance sheets work—delaying it 6 mos, etc will prompt a readjustment UPWARD to make it worthwhile…..

100% clusterfarkdebaclenado…

hillsoftx on November 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM

All extending the deadline does is make the IRS to wait to come out after those not enrolled.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Short of them owing you a refund, and retaining the penalty, the IRS has NO legal right to come after anyone. His Highness might change that, but that’s the way it is today.

Millions don’t comply. Be one of them. He knows this too. What can he do? Take millions of producers into camps?

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Antisemitism has been climbing and escalating in Europe due largely to the influx of ‘immigrants’ from the Middle East.

Has Europe forgotten so swiftly the events leading up to WWII?

WWIII, with a nuclear Middle East, would make that look like a cake walk.

How many have read the accounts of ‘Armageddon’ in the Bible?

thatsafactjack on November 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

but,but, eleventy-million-thirty one website hits!

/Lib

hillsoftx on November 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM

They are still pushing that trash here in Kentucky. The extremely Lib Lexington Herald newspaper did yet another article on that very topic the other day. O care is a rousing success, just look at how many people are going to the website and overwhelming it, blah, blah.

What they are not reporting on is the simple fact that almost 70% of Kentucky residents who have signed up are getting pushed over to Medicaid. That is going to destroy this State in a few short years.

Johnnyreb on November 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Sorry… here’s the rest: Armageddon

1. New Testament the final battle at the end of the world between the forces of good and evil, God against the kings of the earth (Revelation 16:16)

[C19: from Late Latin Armagedōn, from Greek, from Hebrew har megiddōn, mountain district of Megiddo, in N Palestine, site of various battles in the Old Testament]

thatsafactjack on November 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM

How long before Obama announces some sort of extension of next year’s enrollment deadline?

The answer in my humble opinion is that he will announce that only if he has a sure fire way of making the whole boondoggle the Republicans fault. But with none of them having voted for it and his credibility hanging by a thread, that’s going to be a tough sell.

scalleywag on November 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM

This story is breaking news on Special Report right now. Brings up my point above that delay of enrollment does nothing to “help” those who found out that the lazy stupid bastard was lying when he said we could keep our plan PERIOD. If we liked our doctor we could keep our doctor PERIOD. Points out that the math doesn’t work to delay the mandate.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM

One big sacrificial lamb…Israel. He is now so desperate for a deal with Iran that he’ll sacrifice anyone and anything. YOU watch. The US has zero leverage and zero demands of Iran, so long as the topic diverts from this unheard-of-before-clusterfark.

Isn’t that what Jews are for?

kcewa on November 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM

thatsafactjack on November 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Howdy J. – don’t think for two seconds that obama is for Israel. Plus, Iran has him by his what-s/b-there due to petro-dollar. They threaten him to switch to something other than the US dollar to trade their oil in.

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM

So, basically, they’ve managed to rake in the sum total of the number of Amazon employees.

Impressive.

BKeyser on November 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Rather than reforming the individual market, which was flawed but did work for some people, Obamacare will have destroyed it and left only dysfunction and chaos in its wake.

Socialism , never fails…

the_nile on November 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Hahahahahahahaha!!!! So awesome.

Jack_Burton on November 11, 2013 at 6:04 PM

They are still pushing that trash here in Kentucky. The extremely Lib Lexington Herald newspaper did yet another article on that very topic the other day. O care is a rousing success, just look at how many people are going to the website and overwhelming it, blah, blah.

Same group would believe the Jenny Craig walking down the Slim Fast aisle is a rip-roaring success to their effort to lose weight…

hillsoftx on November 11, 2013 at 6:04 PM

How long before Obama announces some sort of extension of next year’s enrollment deadline? Over/under is Friday.

How long before McConnell co-sponsors the bill to delay the deadline?

kcewa on November 11, 2013 at 6:05 PM

H/t Bishop

Welcome to Hell, youngsters, population: You.

Feels pretty good to have voted for the suave black dude though, doesn’t it? Yessir, your wallet is being raped but at least all your hipster friends know you aren’t a racist.

Bishop on November 11, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Exit question: How long before Obama announces some sort of extension of next year’s enrollment deadline?

Better question: How long before we realize that we’re spending as much to insure 10% of the population as we were told that we’d spend to insure the whole population? That is, that we’ve maintained the pre-Obamacare insured levels, but at 10x the cost?

That’s my fearless prediction.

ss396 on November 11, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Heh

gophergirl on November 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Full quote from Bishop, sorry:

Welcome to Hell, youngsters, population: You.

Feels pretty good to have voted for the suave black dude though, doesn’t it? Yessir, your wallet is being raped but at least all your hipster friends know you aren’t a racist.

Bishop on November 11, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM

The problem is that a lot of the uninsured are not all old sick people, but are young people who do drugs, single mothers with lots of children, and illegal aliens. It’s not just the old and sick that this socialistic plan is intended to help. It’s the nefarious negligent hapless young! Additionally, a lot of these young indigents do not have bank accounts or credit cards with which to pay their subsidized premiums. A lot of older people who have medical problems have insurance already, until their plan is cancelled because of Obamacare. A lot people with preexisting conditions already had insurance, until they were kicked out of their high risk pools by Obamacare.

Dhuka on November 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM

What they are not reporting on is the simple fact that almost 70% of Kentucky residents who have signed up are getting pushed over to Medicaid. That is going to destroy this State in a few short years.

Johnnyreb on November 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM

But Bradky and the other HotAir11 Trolls said it was a rousing success.

oldroy on November 11, 2013 at 6:10 PM

And the leftist latrine-rats accuse the Rs, and “need your help”.

Go to Hell now.

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 6:10 PM

HANG THE WHOLE DAMNED THING AROUND THE NECK OF EVERY DEMOCRAT!

GarandFan on November 11, 2013 at 6:10 PM

And each and every one of them had both A) NO PRIOR COVERAGE and B) A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION THAT COULDNT BE COVERED ANYWHERE ANYTIME EVER, right?

Jeddite on November 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Some of them will fit those conditions. It’s incredibly hard – nearly impossible – to design and implement a 100% complete and utter failure.

They’re trying, though.

ss396 on November 11, 2013 at 6:11 PM

bayam and Rywall, where are you ‘intelligent’ Canadians?

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Millions don’t comply. Be one of them. He knows this too. What can he do? Take millions of producers into camps?

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I suspect that the desperation of Dems running in 2014 will shake things loose before the IRS really is concerned with compliance.

Completely off topic- Special Report is showing pictures of the US Marines on the scene in the Phillipines and the USS George Washington is enroute. We are a nation that can quickly render assistance to a nation halfway around the world but with three years and a half billion dollars doesn’t result in a workable website? Just how disgraceful is that and just how much is it an indictment of this administration? I guess the results would have been better if the beneficiary of HealthCare.gov was based on ability and not “merit” (defined in this case as angry racist black woman that went to school with the filthy whore who is First Lady).

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:11 PM

HANG THE WHOLE DAMNED THING AROUND THE NECK OF EVERY DEMOCRAT!

GarandFan on November 11, 2013 at 6:10 PM

I agree – but the establishment RINO’s are afraid their gravy train will end if they destroy the democrats.

redguy on November 11, 2013 at 6:12 PM

How long before Obama announces some sort of extension of next year’s enrollment deadline?

And besides, since calling for a deadline was the Republican’s idea in the first place, I don’t see the president asking for one no matter how screwed up this is. Look how long it took him to apologize for lying to people about losing their coverage…I don’t see him turning around and delaying the program so soon after being exposed as a liar.

scalleywag on November 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM

The vast majority of the uninsured who do not qualify for Medicaid expansion are not going to buy health insurance… They are just going to pay 1% of their salary which in every possible scenario will be cheaper than buying a healthcare… It is delusional to think otherwise but liberalism is based on delusions…

mnjg on November 11, 2013 at 6:15 PM

O care is a rousing success, just look at how many people are going to the website and overwhelming it, blah, blah.

Johnnyreb on November 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Sounds impressive until you realize that the number of Americans who have to log on to overwhelm the website is seven.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

OT: Finally, I agree with Chuck U on something…
Schumer: Chicken Slaughtered, Raised In China Could Pose Major Risk

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Folks should not compare filthy whores to moochelle. That’s not fair to the filthy whores.

VegasRick on November 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Perspective:
 
That’s not even the entire population of Biloxi, Mississippi.

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 6:19 PM

That’s half the population of Cambridge, MA.

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Millions don’t comply. Be one of them. He knows this too. What can he do? Take millions of producers into camps?

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Nothing will force them to buy a crappy Obamacare insurance… The vast majority of the uninsured who do not qualify for Medicaid expansion are not going to buy health insurance… They are just going to pay 1% of their salary as a penalty which in every possible scenario will be cheaper than buying a healthcare…

mnjg on November 11, 2013 at 6:19 PM

That’s less than half the population of Berkeley, CA.

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 6:20 PM

That’s not quite a quarter of the total population of Durham, NC.

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 6:20 PM

RUSH LIMBAUGH: PALIN ‘TOUR DE FORCE,’ TOOK MATT LAUER ‘TO THE CLEANERS’

(RE: Sarah’s interview with Matt Lauer on TODAY this morning)

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/11/11/Rush-Limbaugh-Palin-Tour-de-Force-Took-Matt-Lauer-to-The-Cleaners

Pork-Chop on November 11, 2013 at 6:20 PM

That’s 7% of the total population of Detroit.

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Look how long it took him to apologize for lying to people about losing their coverage…I don’t see him turning around and delaying the program so soon after being exposed as a liar.

scalleywag on November 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM

The lazy stupid coward did not, repeat DID NOT, apologize for lying to the public about losing their coverage. He apologized if people were too stupid to understand the fine print underlying. In other words, it was the individual’s fault that they find themselves in a position where their policy has been cancelled. Not his fault.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:21 PM

That’s 2% of the total population of Chicago.

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Socialism , never fails…

the_nile on November 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Socialism , never fails to fail….

mnjg on November 11, 2013 at 6:21 PM

That’s not quite 2/100ths of 1% of the total population of the US.

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Folks should not compare filthy whores to moochelle. That’s not fair to the filthy whores.

VegasRick on November 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Fair enough! ;0

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

But yeah, reap the whirlwind, suckers, you asked for it and you got it.

I’m done feeling even marginally sorry for any dolt who voted for the Dog Eater once much less twice, because only a halfwit would pull the lever for a person with such a pitiful resume. Then they did it again. If you voted for this POS and your life goes to hell because of what he’s done, well there ya go, handle it.

Bishop on November 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Obama’s solution will be to extend subsidies to MANY more people. Republicans will balk at that because we don’t have the money for it and so it will greatly increase our debt. Obama and the media will then blame the Republicans for being mean, uncaring and heartless. The Republicans will resist for a few days, then see that people are actually believing what the media is telling them and will give in to heavy subsidies for almost everyone and so the debt explodes even more. That is my prediction. We are so screwed.

mydh12 on November 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

OT: Finally, I agree with Chuck U on something…
Schumer: Chicken Slaughtered, Raised In China Could Pose Major Risk

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Why the hell are we getting chicken from China when we produce over 2 billion chickens a year and that is almost 7 chickens a year for every man, woman, and child…

mnjg on November 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Hooray for Cataclysm! Hooray!

Enjoy your program, progressives.
Make sure you keep the leg shackle tightly clamped, while ObamaCare spirals to the bottom.

orangemtl on November 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM

So with about 4 million people stripped of their insurance we are down 3.5 million in two months. Great work!

rob verdi on November 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

That only fills up half of the Big House in Ann Arbor. 50% more people saw Michigan play on Saturday than have signed up for ObamaCare.

gophergirl on November 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

If schadenfreude had calories, I’d be sitting in my bed, covered with only a bedsheet, so morbidly obese that the firefighters would have to cut me out of my bedroom through a wall.

My name is Grace, and I have a schadenfreude binge disorder.

Hey, does Obamacare cover that?

Grace_is_sufficient on November 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Millions don’t comply. Be one of them. He knows this too. What can he do? Take millions of producers into camps?

Schadenfreude on November 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

We’re all going camping? Can we have sing-a-longs? Smoors over the fire?

oldroy on November 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

OT-

As Special Report went to break, they showed the names of those killed in combat since September. Almost all of them were in their early twenties. You’ve still got a few hours left if you haven’t thanked the veterans in your life.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Schadtastic!

Hey, voters, keep voting based solely on color and perceived coolness, rather than on character and competence.

I dropped this elsewhere, but I think this sound effect works better here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNOSoZwH0OE

BuckeyeSam on November 11, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Grace_is_sufficient on November 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

l.m.a.o

bazil9 on November 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

A death spiral is a gradual, progressive spin downward.

This seems more like a death plunge. A death dive. A death missile.

KMav on November 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

We’re all going camping? Can we have sing-a-longs? Smoors over the fire?

oldroy on November 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Singing songs praising dear leader will be fine but S’mores are definitely not on the “Let’s Move” meal plan.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Why the hell are we getting chicken from China when we produce over 2 billion chickens a year and that is almost 7 chickens a year for every man, woman, and child…

mnjg on November 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

It is just ridiculous, I sure don’t want to eat their filthy poultry…

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

If the 5-10% of us who have lost the insurance plans we liked is just a “small percentage” to Obama and his minions, what is .02%? Hmmm?

LASue on November 11, 2013 at 6:32 PM

So with about 4 million people stripped of their insurance we are down 3.5 million in two months. Great work!

rob verdi on November 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

In fact we are down 3.95 millions… Only 50,000 were able to get Obamacare crappy insurance… Of course a lot went on Medicaid expansion but that is 100% covered by tax payers money…

mnjg on November 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Efforts to clean up the data and reduce duplications could further cull the formal count.…

LOL. If that estimate is anything like Barky’s assessments of tornado deaths (he claimed 10,000 had been killed when the actual number was 12) the real number of BarkyCare enrollees is likely to be around 60 people.

The dumbest, most incompetent, most unqualified half-wit to ever disgrace our political scene (which is really saying something) and people actually let this moron take control of over 1/6 of the nation’s economy and let the feral government under the retarded Sukarno clone infringe on our medical privacy. I would say it’s unbelievable but the past 5 years have shown that there is no bottom to society’s fall.

The only solution to this whole disaster is to have a national divorce. The pond scum that voted for Barky, support Barky, or just don’t fight Barky tooth and nail in the feral government cannot be lived with by any decent people. There is no fixing of this. This society is diseased beyond cure. Fatally.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Paging libby…it’s been a lot more than 10 minutes since you got your cancellation notice! Try to defend this monstrosity!

22044 on November 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

I am sincerely surprised it was this high!

bazil9 on November 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Why the hell are we getting chicken from China when we produce over 2 billion chickens a year and that is almost 7 chickens a year for every man, woman, and child…

mnjg on November 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

It is just ridiculous, I sure don’t want to eat their filthy poultry…

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Looking on the bright side, maybe there will be fewer jobs for the illegal aliens in this nation.

astonerii on November 11, 2013 at 6:35 PM

If the 5-10% of us who have lost the insurance plans we liked is just a “small percentage” to Obama and his minions, what is .02%? Hmmm?

LASue on November 11, 2013 at 6:32 PM

The lazy stupid coward, his filthy wife and brats will not be enrolling in Obamacare even though they should have been the very first enrollees if this was such a great thing.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM

They are just going to pay 1% of their salary as a penalty

mnjg on November 11, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Obama: Its a penalty, not a tax
Roberts: Its a tax, not a penalty

Stupid government.

tommer74 on November 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Paging libby…it’s been a lot more than 10 minutes since you got your cancellation notice! Try to defend this monstrosity!

22044 on November 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Libby got cancelled because of Obamacare? Or transitioned due to the ACA as the left is trying to call it now. SWEET!

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:38 PM

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Watch your catfish too..and seafood.
O/T
read this when you have time.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/06/01/govt-finally-ready-to-make-big-spending-cuts-on-catfish/

My market had shrimp from bangla-effing-desh. Eff that!

bazil9 on November 11, 2013 at 6:39 PM

One more reason the numbers are lower than presented: these are for enrollees. How many have cut that first check? How many are going to cut the seventh?

bobs1196 on November 11, 2013 at 6:39 PM

More people sat in the rain at the TCU/UT night game than have signed up for Obamacare.

LASue on November 11, 2013 at 6:40 PM

One more reason the numbers are lower than presented: these are for enrollees. How many have cut that first check? How many are going to cut the seventh?

bobs1196 on November 11, 2013 at 6:39 PM

From USA Today:

The fight over how to define the new health law’s success is coming down to one question: Who counts as an Obamacare enrollee?
Health insurance plans only count subscribers as enrolled in a health plan once they’ve submited a payment. That is when the carrier sends out a member card and begins paying doctor bills.
When the Obama administration releases health law enrollment figures later this week, though, it will use a more expansive definition. It will count people who have purchased a plan as well as those who have a plan sitting in their online shopping cart but have not yet paid.
“In the data that will be released this week, ‘enrollment’ will measure people who have filled out an application and selected a qualified health plan in the marketplace,” said an administration official, who requested anonymity to frankly describe the methodology.

kcewa on November 11, 2013 at 6:41 PM

OT: Finally, I agree with Chuck U on something…
Schumer: Chicken Slaughtered, Raised In China Could Pose Major Risk

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Why the hell are we getting chicken from China when we produce over 2 billion chickens a year and that is almost 7 chickens a year for every man, woman, and child…

mnjg on November 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Hey, chicken breasts the size of footballs, and drumsticks that look like Turkey! What could go wrong?

slickwillie2001 on November 11, 2013 at 6:42 PM

I want to see the racial demographics.

SouthernGent on November 11, 2013 at 6:42 PM

It is just ridiculous, I sure don’t want to eat their filthy poultry…

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

No one should eat anything coming from China… It is true that we use a lot of their junk and cheap products but when these products break we will not die… But with food we can simply die… In China the concepts of good quality and good hygiene do not exist and never will, it is just cultural and will remain so forever… The only food poisoning I got in my life was when I went to China on a business trip… I made the costly mistake of ordering a steak medium done the way I always eat it… It occurred on the night before my flight back to the US… I spent a painful 24 hours including 15 hours on the plane with severe food poisoning… Fortunately I had not visited this sh*thole communist country since…

mnjg on November 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM

My market had shrimp from bangla-effing-desh. Eff that!

bazil9 on November 11, 2013 at 6:39 PM

That is crazy! I don’t even want pork of beef labeled from Canada/USA/Mexico, I live in NE, and am next door to IA. I should be getting the finest beef and pork America has to offer…

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM

It is crazy!

bazil9 on November 11, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Libby got cancelled because of Obamacare? Or transitioned due to the ACA as the left is trying to call it now. SWEET!

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Honestly, I have no idea…but there was a thread a few weeks ago where he said he’d be back in 10 minutes and never returned. So I made up the reason why he didn’t. :)

22044 on November 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Honey from China is pretty good, well except for the salmonella swimming through it.

Only buy local honey, all the big name stuff is Chinese.

Bishop on November 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM

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