Jersey Dems accuse Christie of being a politician or something

posted at 5:01 pm on November 10, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Now that the smoke and dust have largely cleared from the New Jersey governor’s election, Democrats and their supporters in the media have begun the task of figuring out how to work with their newly reelected Republican chief executive over the next four years. Naw… I’m just kidding. They’re already trying to find ways to not only label his election as illegitimate, but to derail any future political ambitions Chris Christie might have. For one sterling example, we need only look across the Walt Whitman Bridge from South Jersey and read Will Bunch of the Philadelphia Daily News. He’s leading the charge with an ominously titled piece called, “The truth that should destroy Christie’s White House bid.” (Ooooo… scary.)

…I do think Christie was tough to beat — even in a pretty blue, moderate-to-liberal state, even if his opponent had been someone like Sen. Cory Booker and not the women that Jon Stewart and “The Daily Show” labeled “Some Democrat.” But the race would have been much, much closer — and Christie’s reputation as a 2016 presidential front-runner, would have been severely tarnished — if it hadn’t been for one thing: Democratic bosses (yes, they have these) tanked.

Bunch isn’t using the word “tanked” as we often think of it – as in, “doing very poorly” – but rather to say that the Democratic bosses were “in the tank” for Christie because… well, I’ll let Will say it himself.

How did Christie get such widespread support from Democratic bosses, mayors, and others? Was it his good looks and charm? Well…I’m sure that helped, but mostly Christie won bipartisan support the old-fashioned way: He bought it.

Well, that’s a fairly serious charge, isn’t it? Are we talking bribery? Kickbacks? Illegal gifts? Actually, the source Bunch is quoting is talking about assistance received by Democratic mayors and other leaders for their communities.

- Michael Blunt, the African-American mayor of Chesilhurst in Camden County… was boosted by a $200,000 special state aid package for economically distressed towns in 2011.
- Harrison Mayor Ray McDonough after the governor secured approval from the Port Authority for a $250 million PATH transit hub for the downtown.
- Christie… attracted mayors with the promise of access and assistance in the future.

Well, gee. Imagine that. Helping to channel state resources to community development programs and getting their mayors on board with him. I suppose you can call that “buying an election” if you like, but you might just as easily call it standard state politics for being a governor.

I was on a discussion panel last week where one speaker was talking about some of the pitfalls awaiting Chris Christie should he decide to get into the 2016 primary. We all agreed on one point… it’s not at all unlikely that there are some skeletons in the New Jersey Governor’s closet which Democrats may be gleefully sitting on, waiting for the 2016 general election. Let’s face it, this is still New Jersey we’re talking about here, and when somebody rises that far, that fast in the Garden State you’ve got to take a deeper look and figure out why. But this stuff that Will Bunch is talking about is standard fare in politics across all fifty states. If cutting deals with local mayors to enlist their support is what he thinks is going to destroy Christie’s White House bid, I believe somebody has been riding the drama llama a bit too far.


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But the Dems are a big fan of his total support of Rubio’s amnesty, here Ann Coulter withdraws her support of Christie because of amnesty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcTZg3_F_6s

And the Dems like his passionate support of the leftists on climate change (“Climate change is real… It’s time we defer to the experts.” -Christie) not to mention his passionate Obama hugs and support of Obama a week before the election.

anotherJoe on November 10, 2013 at 5:09 PM

O/T
http://www.foxnews.com/science/interactive/2013/11/08/track-europe-falling-2000-pound-satellite-in-real-time/?intcmp=latestnews

the GOCE satelite will be falling out of the sky in the next few hours…..i think in the next hour or so…

it will also have several passes across the US…
if it lasts that long…its dropping fast now..

going2mars on November 10, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Funny how I haven’t heard any complaints from the left with how McScumbag purchased our governorship. It’s almost like they have 2 different standards for themselves and us.

crrr6 on November 10, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Defending Christie because he bought off a bunch of politicians with taxpayer money — and that’s just…how it’s done?

I am incredibly motivated by this powerful endorsement. “Vote Christie: He’s Politics as Usual!”

Rational Thought on November 10, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Since then, the site has become one of the largest right-of-center blogs on the Internet.
http://hotair.com/about/

think its time to change that to center.

dmacleo on November 10, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Not that Republicans are particularly good at circling the wagons to defend other Republicans, but can we please just let this one play out? It’s better for our country for Christie to remain as governor of New Jersey rather than get the Republican nomination.

happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Politician?

Ewwwwww. Ick.

viking01 on November 10, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Since then, the site has become one of the largest right-of-center blogs on the Internet.
http://hotair.com/about/
think its time to change that to center.
dmacleo on November 10, 2013 at 5:13 PM

The site is tanking before our eyes.

Can someone tell me the point of the post above?

bluegill on November 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Still nothing from HotAir about the latest Pew poll showing Americans strongly against amnesty, despite the big money campaign to push amnesty.

bluegill on November 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM

So sick of all the Christie threads…

OmahaConservative on November 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM

So sick of all the Christie threads…

OmahaConservative on November 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM

But not so sick that you can’t comment upon them.

unclesmrgol on November 10, 2013 at 5:39 PM

But the Dems are a big fan of his total support of Rubio’s amnesty, here Ann Coulter withdraws her support of Christie because of amnesty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcTZg3_F_6s
And the Dems like his passionate support of the leftists on climate change (“Climate change is real… It’s time we defer to the experts.” -Christie) not to mention his passionate Obama hugs and support of Obama a week before the election.
anotherJoe on November 10, 2013 at 5:09 PM

It’s not just the Dems who are fans of pro-amnesty Christie’s liberal progressive positions. The pro-amnesty bloggers of some formerly conservative sites also can’t get enough of the man.

bluegill on November 10, 2013 at 5:40 PM

O/T
http://www.foxnews.com/science/interactive/2013/11/08/track-europe-falling-2000-pound-satellite-in-real-time/?intcmp=latestnews

the GOCE satelite will be falling out of the sky in the next few hours…..i think in the next hour or so…

it will also have several passes across the US…
if it lasts that long…its dropping fast now..

going2mars on November 10, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Thanks. Keep us posted–if it hasn’t crashed by no.

(I thought about painting a bull’s eye on my roof.)

davidk on November 10, 2013 at 5:44 PM

If cutting deals with local mayors to enlist their support is what he thinks is going to destroy Christie’s White House bid, I believe somebody has been riding the drama llama a bit too far.

Let’s see. There’s two possibilities here.
a) Christie has been bribing mayors — building them houses and giving them cars and preferential interest rates on loans and such.
b) Christie has been sending State money down to local governments, regardless of the political persuasion of the lead local office holder.

I don’t think it’s (a), and (b) is exactly the kind of local governance stuff us Republicans are for. If funds are to be spent, they should be spent by organizations as close to the taxpayer as possible — in every locale.

I’d have a great amount of disgust if a Democratic Governor deliberately withheld funds from a city whose mayor was a Republican. I’d have even more disgust if said governor were a Republican withholding funds from a city whose mayor was a Democrat.

Why? Because I have far greater expectations of fair play from a Republican than I ever will from a Democrat.

unclesmrgol on November 10, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Michael Blunt, the African-American mayor

Harrison Mayor Ray McDonough

……….

reaganaut on November 10, 2013 at 5:51 PM

The site is tanking before our eyes.
Can someone tell me the point of the post above?
bluegill on November 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM

The poster is saying HotAir should describe itself as a centrist blog, not a right of center blog.

happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 5:55 PM

davidk on November 10, 2013 at 5:44 PM
its still up in space….just barely..
altitude 137.46 km…
just north of SA..offshore for Florida …this orbit..
the next three or four orbits will have the US on target..

going2mars on November 10, 2013 at 5:59 PM

The poster is saying HotAir should describe itself as a centrist blog, not a right of center blog.
happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 5:55 PM

I agree with the commenter.

I was referring to the Jazz Shaw post.

Yes, Jazz is essentially defending Christie and saying “who cares?” that Christie bought off a few mayors. Sadly, Jazz Shaw’s analysis almost never reflects or acknowledges the conservative viewpoint.

bluegill on November 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM

OMG! How many threads can you have about Christie?

fight like a girl on November 10, 2013 at 6:05 PM

im not sure..but i believe it ‘skipped’ of the edge of space
twice in the last hour or two…
twice a sudden increase in altitude and then the repeat of it dropping…
its only 69.03 miles up now…so it wont be a long night i wouldnt think…

going2mars on November 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM

OMG! How many threads can you have about Christie?

fight like a girl on November 10, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Looks like they’re going for 1 post per pound.

Rio Linda Refugee on November 10, 2013 at 6:10 PM

I agree with the commenter.
I was referring to the Jazz Shaw post.
bluegill on November 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Oh. That makes sense. I thought it was pretty clear too, but you never know I guess!

happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 6:11 PM

I know Jazz Shaw doesn’t read the comments here when he posts, but I kind of wonder if he even reads HotAir on the weekdays.

happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Relax, Monday’s almost here, Christie won’t be so prominent, and MKH & the guest bloggers will be firing off fresh conservative red meat. :)

22044 on November 10, 2013 at 6:14 PM

I know Jazz Shaw doesn’t read the comments here when he posts, but I kind of wonder if he even reads HotAir on the weekdays.
happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 6:12 PM

I have wondered the same thing about MKH. She has made duplicate posts, posting articles already blogged about by other writers here.

There seems to be a huge disconnect between the pro-amnesty bloggers of this site and the conservative readership/commenters.

The next HotAir blogger hired better be a passionate, actual conservative in the Michelle Malkin tradition.

Anyway, you know it’s the weekend when the “Top Picks” section of the blog is two days behind the Main Blog.

bluegill on November 10, 2013 at 6:21 PM

http://www.n2yo.com/?s=34602

this site has been up/down all day…
but if your a satelite watcher…its a great
site on days when the servers arnt getting crushed..

http://www.foxnews.com/science/interactive/2013/11/08/track-europe-falling-2000-pound-satellite-in-real-time/?intcmp=latestnews

but this site references the first…
GOCE is falling almost a km a minute at times..and this pass/orbit is right up the east coast…
prepair to duck east coasters…!!

going2mars on November 10, 2013 at 6:24 PM

…but Christie agrees with New York’s Cuomo 98.9% of the time!

KOOLAID2 on November 10, 2013 at 6:25 PM

we need a HA pool..
when will GOCE impact earth…

red state blue state….?
maybe country and time..??..

going2mars on November 10, 2013 at 6:27 PM

…from the Amash thread…Jazz wrote earlier….

Amash’s local campaign office shared a building with my employer a few years ago. I’ve spent time in his office talking to him and his staff. I like him immensely, I like his deportment, and we are ideologically in sync. I’ll be working hard to get him re-elected.

Jazz on November 10, 2013 at 11:09 AM

I know Jazz Shaw doesn’t read the comments here when he posts, but I kind of wonder if he even reads HotAir on the weekdays.

happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 6:12 PM

…I guess you’re right!…is today Monday?

KOOLAID2 on November 10, 2013 at 6:34 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/19/Christie-Cuomo

Talking with union leader Larry Bulman, political director for United Association of Plumbers, Pipefitters and Steamfitters, Christie reportedly said, “I’m not much different from Andrew Cuomo. I probably agree with him on 98% of the issues.”

Christie leans liberal on a myriad of issues. While he maintains that he supports traditional marriage, that position is clearly malleable for him; he grandstands when it comes to federal disaster funding; he has ties to groups that are questionable in terms of Islamism; his anti-union rhetoric masks the fact that he gets along quite well with most of the unions in his state, including the much-maligned teachers unions; he blasts the NRA on a regular basis.

Christie is also open to amnesty.

Yet this is the politician some so-called “conservative” bloggers are promoting and are suggesting we need to accept?

bluegill on November 10, 2013 at 6:37 PM

we need a HA pool..
when will GOCE impact earth…

red state blue state….?
maybe country and time..??..

going2mars on November 10, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Would that be all 57 states having voted in the 2012 election or just the original 50?

viking01 on November 10, 2013 at 6:38 PM

“Jersey Dems accuse Christie of being a politician or something”
…they’re just pissed that rhino RINO christie is even more of d-cRAT socialist extremist than they are.

TeaPartyNation on November 10, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I agree with the commenter.

I was referring to the Jazz Shaw post.

Yes, Jazz is essentially defending Christie and saying “who cares?” that Christie bought off a few mayors. Sadly, Jazz Shaw’s analysis almost never reflects or acknowledges the conservative viewpoint.

bluegill on November 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM

I knew what you meant :)
seems to be a “large” christy push lately, sort of “crushing” other topics.
he’s a f*stick not worth a damn.

dmacleo on November 10, 2013 at 6:47 PM

viking01 on November 10, 2013 at 6:38 PM

the next pass/orbit will be close to Texas to Montana…red states..
currently it is 105.75km altitude …and climbling a tad..
another possible ‘skip’…
to answer your question..
we might have to go by country and style of government…
but yes i would think that we would have to include
all 57 states,,,just like BHO said …its fair…..

going2mars on November 10, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Christie won’t be a winner for this blog. The excitement just isn’t there. I thought after his win and the nonstop cheer leading that the Dem and RINO Pundits were cranking out was going to get the Christie ball rolling. I gave the media hacks too much credit. No one really cares – Not even the pundits now (except for the old guys on HA and Sarborogh).

I think people are done with the cult of personality for a while. Christie doesn’t stand for anything. Oh, unless “getting things done” and “reaching across the isle” sounds substantive. He’s just a personality. Obama was history. CC is just an act that some people like and some people don’t.

Like with Guiliani, it’s going to come down to the politics over the personality. And Guiliani(first in all the pols and biggest money raiser) wasn’t even competitive once teh primary began.

light weight pundits do not have the back to push CC over that hill that Guiliani couldn’t climb – and that’s after Rudy cleaned up NYC(he totally transformed it) and was stong after 911. Christie’s Sandy moment isn’t so heroic, it’s steeped in bad politics and NJ is still crap economically. Also, Rudy didn’t hug Obama.

Look, Allah and Ed and I’m guessing Jazz were like little excited school girls at a beiber concert just a few years ago. Who was it that was making them faint? Mitch Daniels! Nothing against Mitch(short bald) Daniels but you’d have to be a pundit to think he was going to be able to beat Obama. I mean, these guys are good writers but they rarely can pick them. No one is consulting Jazz or HA before they put money down.

BoxHead1 on November 10, 2013 at 6:48 PM

So sick of all the Christie threads…

OmahaConservative on November 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Check out that Incognito Dolphins bully. He looks just like Christie. I think Christie’s mama has some splainin to do.

msupertas on November 10, 2013 at 6:50 PM

trying…to derail any future political ambitions Chris Christie may have.

Now THERE’S a Dem movement I can get behind!

teacherman on November 10, 2013 at 6:53 PM

A better Christie piece…?

d1carter on November 10, 2013 at 7:05 PM

…I guess you’re right!…is today Monday?
KOOLAID2 on November 10, 2013 at 6:34 PM

He posts the third comment on his own thread, and not seemingly in response to any particular comment… I’m not sure that means he reads the comments. But, sure, lack of evidence is not proof, blah blah.

Regardless, there just seems a huge disconnect in the posts here on the weekend.

happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 7:10 PM

BoxHead1 on November 10, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Indeed.

But isn’t it quite likely that the next GOP nominee will be a politician that is thoroughly disliked by the commentators on this blog?

happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 7:25 PM

What really won over the democrat bosses was Christie prevented republicans from challenging them in races were Democrats were vulnerable. He then tried to punish republican leadership for attacking the Democrat leader.
http://www.politickernj.com/69458/senate-gop-caucus-protects-kean

With Christie, it’s all about Christie.

tbrickert on November 10, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Regardless, there just seems a huge disconnect in the posts here on the weekend.

happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 7:10 PM

…that…I agree on!

KOOLAID2 on November 10, 2013 at 7:29 PM

HOT AIR CHRISTIE!

Chris Christie 24/7

Pork-Chop on November 10, 2013 at 7:38 PM

BoxHead1 on November 10, 2013 at 6:48 PM
Indeed.

But isn’t it quite likely that the next GOP nominee will be a politician that is thoroughly disliked by the commentators on this blog?

happytobehere on November 10, 2013 at 7:25 PM

That’s true too. We suck at predictions.
Sorry for the grammar I am about to butcher.

CC can win if he forges a coalition with Hukabee. That’s the only way I can see him making a dent in the primaries. Krauthammer and the 5 can crow about CC’s regular guy appeal all they want but they are pompous stiffs surrounded by pompous stiffs .The rest of us do not need to get our “regular guy” quota from our politicians. We know enough loose loudmouths in our personal lives.

Personality is important but can’t win you a presidential election.
Reagan didn’t win because he was grandfatherly. Bush didn’t win because he was a cowboy. Obama didn’t win because he was a cool cat.

Clinton is the exception(I wasn’t around for JFK), He won his first term with less then 50% and it was because women liked his looks.

CC will need the socons(he already lost the Reaganites and libertarians) to win. This will be counter-intuitive to CK , Allah and the 5 but I think it’s his only route to victory. And a long shot. Hukabee is CC’s key, not the no nothing moderate election losers at FOX.

BoxHead1 on November 10, 2013 at 8:20 PM

He needs Huck for the primaries

BoxHead1 on November 10, 2013 at 8:27 PM

I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Cristie took Obama has his VP.

MrX on November 10, 2013 at 10:14 PM

The next HotAir blogger hired better be a passionate, actual conservative in the Michelle Malkin tradition.

bluegill on November 10, 2013 at 6:21 PM

The Chicago Cubs will win the World Series before THAT happens.

Myron Falwell on November 10, 2013 at 10:53 PM