Egypt turns to Russia

posted at 4:31 pm on November 9, 2013 by Bruce McQuain

Not only has the administration’s “reset” button failed with Russia, but now Middle Eastern countries which have been in the American sphere of influence for decades are looking for better relations with other major nations.  Saudi Arabia has said “major changes” are coming concerning their relationship with the US.  And now Egypt is turning away from the US as well:

The Russian foreign and defence ministers will travel to Egypt next week on a visit seen as signalling a growing rapprochement between the two countries as the military-backed authorities in Cairo reach out for new allies and seek to lessen dependence on Washington.

A Russian official spokesman said that Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister, and Sergei Shoigu, the defence minister, would discuss issues touching on “military and technical co-operation” – seen as a Russian euphemism for arms sales.

Cairo’s relations with Washington, its primary aid donor and military supplier for four decades, have frayed since the coup in July that ousted the Islamist Mohamed Morsi, Egypt’s first elected president.

As tensions with Washington increased over the summer, culminating in a US decision to withhold part of its annual $1.3bn in military aid, Egyptian officials started to hint that their country would seek a realignment in foreign relations.

That’s precisely what this move indicates.  The Saudis are said to be furious with the administration’s handling of Iran.  The Egyptians, on the other hand, aren’t happy with the administrations seeming support of the dangerous Muslim Brotherhood.

Though the US administration has been at pains to avoid labelling the change of leadership in Cairo a coup, criticism in Washington of the ousting of Mr Morsi unleashed in Egypt a torrent of nationalist and anti-US sentiment, amplified by a combative and partisan press. Some in the Egyptian media have gone as far as accusing President Barack Obama of close personal ties with Mr Morsi’s Muslim Brotherhood.

Of course, diplomatically, the usual denial of a major shift is to be expected and the Egyptian foreign ministry is not above indulging in that:

Amid the nationalist frenzy and talk of US conspiracies against Egypt, rumours of an imminent visit by President Vladimir Putin – cast almost as a saviour coming to Cairo’s aid – began to circulate in the press and social media soon after the ousting of Mr Morsi.

But Badr Abdel Atty, Egypt’s foreign ministry spokesman, dismissed as “nonsense” any suggestion that Cairo sought “to replace one ally with another”. The strengthening relations with Russia, he said, were an attempt “to provide Egyptian political decision makers with alternatives in the national interest”.

“As far as Russia is concerned, we have had very strong historical relations since the fifties and sixties and we fought with Russian weaponry in the 1973 war [against Israel] ,” said Mr Abdel Atty. “So there is solid ground on which we can build for the future.”

Some Egyptians this as a “back to the future” moment for Egypt when Gamal Abdel Nasser aligned Egypt with the then USSR in what some consider to be “glory days” of Egypt.

Regardless of that or any other consideration, it appears that Egypt, like Saudi Arabia, plan to “distance” themselves from the US.  And, of course this could indicate worsening relations with Israel in the future.

Part of the remarkably bad foreign policy record this administration has racked up in 5 short years.

~McQ

 


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Obama: “The Muslim Brotherhood way or the highway!”

albill on November 9, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Why not.

BigGator5 on November 9, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Change you can believe in?

Or is this the real meaning of the ‘Reset button’?

Athos on November 9, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Long past time to reset the reset.

Still, in a way, good riddance to bad rubbish.

Kraken on November 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM

I thought the reason they switched to U.S. aid was because Israelis flying American jets left the Egyptian military burning in the desert.

myiq2xu on November 9, 2013 at 4:38 PM

And on top of that:
Egyptian lawyers accuse Obama of crimes against humanity

albill on November 9, 2013 at 4:45 PM

I believe it was late summer 0f 1969. We had joined up with the rest of the air wing on the Kennedy (CVA 67) and we headed out of Norfolk for what was to be a three week carrier qualification cruise. We hadn’t been at sea for 12 hours when word came that Nasser had died. We turned to port and instead of heading for Puerto Rico for three weeks, we were suddenly headed for the eastern Med for an unknown period. Nixon was smart enough too cozy up to the new rulers in Egypt. Our current CiC is out to destroy whatever he can, particularly America.

oldleprechaun on November 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

I thought the reason they switched to U.S. aid was because Israelis flying American jets left the Egyptian military burning in the desert.

myiq2xu on November 9, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Not to mention many Russian tanks burning in the desert.

But as much of this was hardware, it was also a lot about the Soviet doctrine not working.

Sadat had a major change in viewpoint after his defeat in the October ’73 war – and was willing to agree to peace with Israel in exchange for regaining the Sinai. That combined with the $2B+ of promised US assistance each year helped complete the decision of Sadat to move under the US umbrella.

It’s ironic today, that the fecklessness of Barack Obama and his support of the Muslim Brotherhood, is the core force driving Egypt back to the Russian umbrella. Rather than embracing the pragmatic, Obama prefers to embrace the radical enemies of the US. This is what happens when one looks at the world and sees only what they want to see as opposed to seeing the world as it really is.

Athos on November 9, 2013 at 4:49 PM

As bad as this looks for the SCOAMF, maybe this is actually a positive development. We have new incentive to wean ourselves off of ME oil. We can let Europe cope with those crazies on their own, and if Russia wants to pour their Rubles down that particular drain….bonus!

ElectricPhase on November 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Barry needs to change the batteries in that peace prize.

onomo on November 9, 2013 at 4:51 PM

But wait! I thought that because of his “vast foreign policy” experience Smokin’ Joe Biden was put on the ticket as VP candi… oh, wait. Right. He made a better “life insurance” policy.

IrishEyes on November 9, 2013 at 5:03 PM

…Arab Spring!

KOOLAID2 on November 9, 2013 at 5:03 PM

And? I’m tired of redistributing the wealth from American taxpayers to foreign regimes. Screw Egypt

MoreLiberty on November 9, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Part of the remarkably bad foreign policy record this administration has racked up in 5 short years.

~McQ

I cannot think of a single think that this administration has done (with the exception of leaving Iraq on the pre-established time table, which Bush set up with the Iraqies, but Obama didn’t want to do (he tried really hard to stay, but Iraq wouldn’t let him)) which is good. Nothing. Nada.

Fast & Furious
Bengazi
Obamacare (the way it was passed, what is in the law, ignoring the people, waiving away parts of the law, etc. etc. etc.)
$1-1.5 Trillion deficits
Going after the States who defy him
Killing coal
Not allowing oil drilling or fracking
Blowing trillions on his cronies with the “stimulus” package
Having the IRS suppress freedom of speech in order to steal an election
Dodd-Frank (the negative effects of this are still coming)
The betraying of our allies to our enemies (Israel, Southern Europe, Libya, Egypt)
Spying on American citizens by the government.
Destroying friendly regimes to instill Terrorist Muslim regimes (Egypt, Libya)
Sophomoric and easily avoidable diplomacy mistakes (Russia’s Reset Button and the IPOD to the Queen of England with his speeches)
Job and economy killing regulations and rules
etc., etc., etc.

Literally, he has done _nothing_ that was good. He is the worst president ever.

Theophile on November 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM

We knife the people who support us (Mubarrak…Kadaffi); Russia sticks by its ally Assad through thick and thin. The world is taking note of whose handshake means something and whose handshake means bvllsh1t. I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel starts wooing Putin.

dhimwit on November 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM

No surprise here either. Putin knows the game, too bad our fearless leader and his minions don’t have a clue.

major dad on November 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Just another result of all that “Smart Diplomacy”, where all the world was going to love us Barack Obama.

That buffoon is in way over his head. He should have stayed in Chicago.

GarandFan on November 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Seems like kind of a weird way to show us how much they love us now that Obama’s in office.

John Deaux on November 9, 2013 at 5:28 PM

So, Europe will now be completely surrounded – just what the doctor ordered./Obama

OldEnglish on November 9, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I wonder when we get to the point of no return?

Cindy Munford on November 9, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Smart Power!

agmartin on November 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM

No surprise here either. Putin knows the game, too bad our fearless leader and his minions don’t have a clue.

major dad on November 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM

No its just another smart move. Way over my head mindja. B’s crew’s in the smart room now, oh sorry Saturday, they’re shut down.
They’re texting each other from home right now, “Is this good? We’re not liking them right, this is a good thing right? Should we talk to the boss? We can make this look like not our fault right?”
Brilliance, deniability, cadillac dental plans.

onomo on November 9, 2013 at 5:48 PM

We may have lost a few things along the way such as world power, a virile military, international respect,a good credit rating, 30 million jobs and a strong dollar but at least we have Amnesty, Obamacare and Green Energy

MaiDee on November 9, 2013 at 5:49 PM

We may have lost a few things along the way such as world power, a virile military, international respect,a good credit rating, 30 million jobs and a strong dollar but at least we have Amnesty, Obamacare and Green Energy

MaiDee on November 9, 2013 at 5:49 PM

And cell phones wooooo! Obama! Obama! Obama!Obama! Obama! Obama!…wait. I threw up a little bit…Obama! Obama! Obama!Obama! Obama!
This comment was paid for by Planned Parenthood. Now offering… diaphrams for your toddlers! Obama! Obama! Obama!

onomo on November 9, 2013 at 5:56 PM

As I have said before on here, Obama has taken Middle East relations back to 1967, and it will not end well this time.

Johnnyreb on November 9, 2013 at 6:02 PM

There seems to be a setting of a stage.

Murphy9 on November 9, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Listening to Reagan’s March 10, 1961 speech on youtube. Just audio, no vid. It’s amazing. He could be saying this today.

onomo on November 9, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Didn’t this happen before? After the US saved Egypt from Israel and the UK?

Count to 10 on November 9, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Part of the remarkably bad foreign policy record this administration has racked up in 5 short years.

This was predicted (in a general way). Neo-isolationism doesn’t work any better than isolationism did.

Count to 10 on November 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Didn’t this happen before? After the US saved Egypt from Israel and the UK?

Count to 10 on November 9, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Yes back in the late 1950s. After the British and French went in and took over the Suez canal from Egypt. The US and the UN forced them to leave and we wound up with the United Arab Republic consisting of what was Egypt and sometime after that Syria, but they soon quit. Egypt stayed as the UAR until 1970.

Johnnyreb on November 9, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Hillary really set some wonderful things in motion as SoS, eh?

dpduq on November 9, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Israel to look to Russia next

Schadenfreude on November 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM

I thought the reason they switched to U.S. aid was because Israelis flying American jets left the Egyptian military burning in the desert.

myiq2xu on November 9, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Actually, the IAF flew no U.S. jets in the 1967 War but mostly French fighters such as the Dassault Mirage.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 9, 2013 at 6:43 PM

I wonder if the Russians have backup lights for the tanks they will
sell them

conservative tarheel on November 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM

What did bin Laden say about stong horses and weak horses?

Khrushchev found Kennedy to be weak and sent missiles to Cuba.

Putin has found Øbama to be weak and is expanding his influence.

American foreign policy is entering a long, dark period.

Kafir on November 9, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Obstructionist GOP’s at fault

socalcon on November 9, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Axis of evil: Muslim Brotherhood – Iran – Obama.

albill on November 9, 2013 at 7:15 PM

We can let Europe cope with those crazies on their own, and if Russia wants to pour their Rubles down that particular drain….bonus!

ElectricPhase on November 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM

What makes you think that we won’t keep sending billions of US$$ to the Egyptians despite them getting aid from Russia?

Solaratov on November 9, 2013 at 7:49 PM

right button not woking.

Cindy:

At about 10 trillion

WryTrvllr on November 9, 2013 at 8:23 PM

The Russians supplied Egypt with a lot of goodies before and got nothing for it when the Egyptians kicked them out in favor of an American alliance.

I’m guessing Putin remembers that and won’t want to repeat it.

David Blue on November 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Thanks, President Pissypants McPeacock!

Adjoran on November 10, 2013 at 12:04 AM

It is a cold hard fact that the Obama administration has all but nullified the gains Reagan made in relegating the former Soviet Union to a third rate world power. He seems to cower under Medvedev and Obama’s handling of Syria made Putin look like the smart leader and peace broker.

The Cold War was won but this idiot is going to make it look like Putin won it. I hate to fall into conspiracy nut stuff but it looks like he’s bafooning the US on purpose. Is he really this enept?

smoothsailing on November 10, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Inept.

smoothsailing on November 10, 2013 at 2:27 AM

Watching all the pieces fall into place real-time is kind of bizarre. The world stage is being set for a major conflagration, just as it was predicted. The ten kingdoms are coming into view, Israel is being encircled, and the U.S. is nowhere to be found, just like in the Book of Revelation. Not trying to sound like a loon, just look at what’s happening. Wow.

HomeoftheBrave on November 10, 2013 at 7:25 AM

The King of the South turns to the King of the North?

This could get interesting.

Cleombrotus on November 10, 2013 at 7:55 AM

smoothsailing on November 10, 2013 at 1:50 AM

It’s difficult to go against someone with whom you share an ideology.

Cleombrotus on November 10, 2013 at 7:58 AM

Hillary Clinton, You Magnificent – - -

TimBuk3 on November 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Watching all the pieces fall into place real-time is kind of bizarre. The world stage is being set for a
major conflagration, just as it was predicted. The ten kingdoms are coming into view, Israel is being
encircled, and the U.S. is nowhere to be found, just like in the Book of Revelation. Not trying to
sound like a loon, just look at what’s happening. Wow.
HomeoftheBrave on November 10, 2013 at 7:25 AM

Time is short.

Murphy9 on November 10, 2013 at 12:17 PM