Pew poll: Disapproval of Obama’s handling of health care soars to 59% among adults

posted at 2:41 pm on November 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

The adult population’s almost always a bit more Democratic than the population of registered voters, who are themselves usually more Democratic than the people who actually show up on election day. Just a fun fact worth mentioning, in case you’re a Democratic senator from a conservative state who’s wondering how to read this poll.

Actually, does this data prove that ObamaCare’s a bust or that basically everything he touched in 2013 is a bust?

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His overall job approval is down to 41 percent, just five points higher than Bush’s approval was at this point during the famous downward spiral of his second term. Philip Klein pointed out on Twitter that, if you take those January numbers seriously, Obama has lost 20 points net on health care in the past 10 months — half of them since September, thanks to coverage of the Healthcare.gov apocalypse and the Big Lie about keeping your plan if you like it. (The January numbers are probably slightly rosier for Obama than they otherwise would have been because he was enjoying a post-election honeymoon with voters at the time.) And yet, health care isn’t his worst result here. He’s -28 on immigration, doubtless thanks to plenty of lefties being as annoyed with him that Congress hasn’t passed amnesty as righties are annoyed that Obama keeps pushing it, and he’s -34 on the economy, down 25 points net in just the past two months. What explains that? Sean Trende of RCP points to the timeline in Gallup’s tracker of economic confidence as the smoking gun:

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The light green line, representing economic confidence, creeps along until late September, when the bottom falls out. Halfway through October, it creeps back up — but not quite to the level it was at before. What we’re seeing here, obviously, is political fallout from the shutdown, the likelihood of which started to make people anxious a few weeks before the lights actually went out on October 1. The GOP’s taking a beating from it too but the GOP doesn’t have a party figurehead on whom public irritation can be concentrated. Intense disapproval of the shutdown begat intense disapproval of O’s handling of the economy, which in turn may be bleeding over into perceptions of him on other subjects like immigration and health care. The O-Care rollout only makes things worse; that may be why, although economic confidence recovered somewhat after the shutdown ended, it didn’t come all the way back. Trende is speculating on Twitter as I write this that the same thing may have happened in Virginia to explain McAuliffe’s surprisingly narrow win over Cuccinelli. The shutdown, which damaged Obama specifically and Republicans generally, put Cooch in a deep hole, and then the O-Care clusterfark *nearly* dug him out. I’d be surprised if Chris La Civita, the Cuccinelli advisor who blamed the shutdown yesterday for Cooch’s loss, doesn’t agree.


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So the population of this country is still 41% stupid….

dentarthurdent on November 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM

BISHOP!!!!!

dentarthurdent on November 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM

The trend is down for every single metric.

Hope and Change, baby. Hope and Change.

BacaDog on November 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM

you can screw over even low-information (read: stupid) people only so long before they finally notice you have them bent over and get angry about it

deepelemblues on November 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM

I hear people calling in to Hannity, Rush, saying it’s “sad” and “disappointing” that they’re losing their insurance plans.

You people need to find your spines. And your nuts.

YOU SHOULD BE FURIOUS THAT THE GOVERNMENT “OF THE PEOPLE” (HAH!) IS PASSING LAWS THAT “UN-INSURE” YOU. NOT ONE OF THE FOUNDERS WOULD HAVE EVER STOOD FOR THIS ATROCITY. EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF CONGRESS IS FORSWORN: EITHER BECAUSE HE/SHE VOTED FOR IT, OR BECAUSE HE/SHE FAILED TO STOP IT.

To repeat: do not be “disappointed.” You should be furious.

Herald of Woe on November 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Higher please.

Bmore on November 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM

The reverse Midas Touch is strong with this one!!

Deano1952 on November 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM

And just think. Only about 1/3 of the damage that will be done when the employer mandate kicks in has been done so far with the individual mandate.

oldroy on November 8, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Pew! Pew! Pew!

(for those who get HISHE – Avengers, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZkqC4Lz8dU, 50 sec. mark)

Marcola on November 8, 2013 at 2:51 PM

The adult population’s almost always a bit more Democratic than the population of registered voters, who are themselves usually more Democratic than the people who actually show up on election day. Just a fun fact worth mentioning, in case you’re a Democratic senator from a conservative state who’s wondering how to read this poll.

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In another two weeks, there will be enough votes in the Senate and the House to repeal Obamacare AND override Obama’s veto.

A deal will be struck continuing the coverage of children to age 26, renewal of ALL exising policies cancelled by Obamacare and assigning the bipartisan committee on the debt ceiling/budget with charting a bipartisan path forward on healthcare.

At this point, Democratic incumbents will agree to ANYTHING to stop the destruction that is coming their way.

PolAgnostic on November 8, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Some of that 59% voted for his sorry a$$.

Buyer’s remorse?

Bitter Clinger on November 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Disapproval of Obama’s handling of health care soars to 59% among adults

So what ? 59% is still a minority because
100% of kids ,
100& of union thugs,
100% of gang bangers and rappers support JiziahCAIR.
/Yapdogggy

burrata on November 8, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Comprehensive amnesty is the only thing that can save Democrats before the midterms. It would be a punch to the gut for the conservative base and give the far left a huge boost in enthusiasm.

Wigglesworth on November 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Define “adults”.

If this survey includes the up to age 26 “children” that can hitch up on Mom and Dad’s policy, it needs to be redone.

Joe Mama on November 8, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Look at the Real Clear Politics average of polls has Obama’s Approval at an unprecedented (for Obama) -10. In free fall: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

anotherJoe on November 8, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Lots of good news today.

change is for suckers on November 8, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Pew poll: Disapproval of Obama’s handling of health care soars to 59% among adults

Ok, but what is it among Democrats?

SouthernRoots on November 8, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Wigglesworth on November 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Riiiight. Won’t happen without a lot of bloodshed – and nobody wants that (except the communists). Might that be you?

HomeoftheBrave on November 8, 2013 at 3:05 PM

I think Obama needs to go to New Mexico for a police cavity search.

locomotivebreath1901 on November 8, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Hispanics in this poll approve of Obama 60/32. LOL.

Wigglesworth on November 8, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Imagine being the media or a leftist.

Couldn’t happen to a ‘nicer’ bunch.

obama has destroyed the D party and their Utopian pipedreams.

He doesn’t care if they go in flames next year.

When you soar with turkeys you land like they do.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM

The lies finally started directly affecting people. “No new taxes” knocked off GHWB after huge popularity.

TexAz on November 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Pew poll: Disapproval of Obama’s handling of health care soars to 59% among adults

But what are his like-ability numbers? I say that they would be high.

Rio Linda Refugee on November 8, 2013 at 3:13 PM

obama

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:13 PM

So the population of this country is still 41% stupid….

dentarthurdent on November 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM

I wouldn’t necessarily call them stupid. Some of them know that when redistribution happens that there are winners and losers and they think they are the winners.

gwelf on November 8, 2013 at 3:13 PM

“Cash for Clunkers” — Pimp in Chief

“Worse than Carter, by implication worse than “Bushchimpey”" — obama’s legacy

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM

The market for sh*t sandwiches shows continuing signs of weakness.

Cicero43 on November 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM

When you soar with turkeys you land like they do.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM

” As God is my witness I cold have sworn that they could fly”

Rio Linda Refugee on November 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM

cold s/b could

Rio Linda Refugee on November 8, 2013 at 3:15 PM

I think Obama needs to go to New Mexico for a police cavity search.

locomotivebreath1901 on November 8, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Cavity search,
or as Hussein calls it –an orgy :O

burrata on November 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Comprehensive amnesty is the only thing that can save Democrats before the midterms. It would be a punch to the gut for the conservative base and give the far left a huge boost in enthusiasm.

Wigglesworth on November 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Exactly. If somehow amnesty managed to sneak through by some trickery, then the revolt would be furious, and there would be such a huge fraction that say “I’m done with the GOP” that the left could take the House.

And come 2015 when the insurance companies are about to go belly up, the Dems put in single payer. And they gloat. And after that, of course, we got millions of eager new immigrant voters to top off the Dem margins across this land, so: Wealth Taxes, full instant citizenship to anyone from down south that wants to come here, restrictions on free (conservative) speech, cap & trade!, and I’m sure I’m not thinking of a lot of bad things the Dems will do. Oh, not just single payer, but elimination of the option of individuals to seek out free market health care, so we are all on the same waiting lists for substand rationed medical care. Wonderful. Stop Paul Ryan’s amnesty! And get the GOP unified so we concentrate on the biggest enemy (the Dems, not ourselves), and win the elections.

anotherJoe on November 8, 2013 at 3:17 PM

” As God is my witness I cold have sworn that they could fly”

Rio Linda Refugee on November 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM


Still one of the top ten funniest moments in television comedy!

PolAgnostic on November 8, 2013 at 3:17 PM

” As God is my witness I cold have sworn that they could fly”

Rio Linda Refugee on November 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Easily the funniest 30 mins of television ever broadcast.

BobMbx on November 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM

The bond market went South today and that’s just one (big) step.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Heh

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Thanks RLR

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Best schadenfreude of the day

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Here is a nice metaphor about what conservatives need to do to folks wishfully hoping for utopia.

Get up off the log and do something…nicely.

BobMbx on November 8, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Can’t wait to see President 404′s numbers in September/October of next year as the employers start notifying the masses that they’re being thrown onto the exchanges in 2015. That will make the dog eating bastard long for these current poll numbers.

TXUS on November 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM

A new Gallup poll brings more terrible news for President Obama and his signature health plan, showing that only 22% of uninsured Americans intend to buy insurance through the ObamaCare exchanges.

Superb

I will not comply because I am a free citizen of the United States, not a subject of its government. I consider non-compliance with this monstrosity and the tens of thousands of pages of regulations that are to be enforced by an unelected bureaucracy, and that have left a gigantic carbon footprint on our environment and the United States Constitution, a duty.

Non-compliance is my executive order, and that order reads in part that I do not recognize any government’s claim on my action or inaction in the marketplace, nor upon any personal information I am unwilling to divulge.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Can’t wait to see President 404′s numbers in September/October of next year as the employers start notifying the masses that they’re being thrown onto the exchanges in 2015. That will make the dog eating bastard long for these current poll numbers.

TXUS on November 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Plus, as we write the Veterans are losing their plans, in good part. Faux will be flooded with cancer and other patients without any insurance at all.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:27 PM

you can screw over even low-information (read: stupid) people only so long before they finally notice you have them bent over and get angry about it

deepelemblues on November 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM

And then there are the ones that still, after all of this, find him ‘favorable’.

Midas on November 8, 2013 at 3:31 PM

panics in this poll approve of Obama 60/32. LOL.

Wigglesworth on November 8, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Hey Mitch, Marco and John – hurry up with the amnesty, it’ll be great for the GOP!

Midas on November 8, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Could the fact that Mr. Obama is a lying sack be having some effect on his poll numbers?

Mason on November 8, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Toxic !

Sandybourne on November 8, 2013 at 3:40 PM

RCP average for the President, right now is…-10.0. All time low, -10.2.

After bouncing around -6 for most of August through October, his ratings have been in free fall since the last week in October.

Since November 1, he’s been at -8 or lower every day.

If he drops much lower and stays there, he won’t have the political clout to get a post office named after him.

Exit question: How toxic does Obamacare have to get to have a chance at being repealed over an Obama veto?? What’s the approval number that gets it there? -15? -20?

It can’t fall that low, can it?

Chris of Rights on November 8, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Now we know the exact amount who need Mental Health parity.

hillsoftx on November 8, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Wait until the X-mas shopping doesn’t go high…due to obama’care’ financial anxieties…and the jobs numbers get adjusted down “unexpectedly”.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:44 PM

I wouldn’t necessarily call them stupid. Some of them know that when redistribution happens that there are winners and losers and they think they are the winners.

gwelf on November 8, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Ummmm, no, given the results of the last 2 Presidential elections – I’m gonna stick with at least 41% being stupid….

dentarthurdent on November 8, 2013 at 3:47 PM

It can’t fall that low, can it?

Chris of Rights on November 8, 2013 at 3:41 PM

I don’t know – what does down 3000% equate to in your numbering scheme?
Seems to me that would be the political equivalent of absolute zero Kelvin…..

dentarthurdent on November 8, 2013 at 3:50 PM

That’s right, people…you’ve been screwed. He “apologized”, so get over it and go try and find some kind of affordable alternative. Just kidding. It’s not sad, it’s insanity.

scalleywag on November 8, 2013 at 3:53 PM

If the corrupt progressives at the most corrupt pollster have to admit these numbers, the situation must be dire.

slickwillie2001 on November 8, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Actually, does this data prove that ObamaCare’s a bust or that basically everything he touched in 2013 is a bust?

Yeah, yeah, I realize healthcare is part of the economy, but has Obama touched the economy since Cash for Clunkers?

Dusty on November 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM

When you soar with turkeys you land like they do.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM

” As God is my witness I cold have sworn that they could fly”

Rio Linda Refugee on November 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Actually, only “domestic” turkeys (see “Butterball”?) can’t fly.

Wild turkeys can fly, and at speeds of up to 55 miles per hour. Here in NH I’ve seen them flying up to and then roosting in tree branches 30 and even 40 feet above the ground.

Del Dolemonte on November 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM

If the corrupt progressives at the most corrupt pollster have to admit these numbers, the situation must be dire.

slickwillie2001 on November 8, 2013 at 3:53 PM

I have seen over the past decade some decent surveys by Pew, but mainly in other areas, such as international public opinion of the US, as well as their long-running series of polls showing how informed news consumers are depending on their sources of news.

This particular Pew result however is nothing but bad news for O’Liar and his ventriloquists.

Del Dolemonte on November 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Actually, only “domestic” turkeys (see “Butterball”?) can’t fly.

Wild turkeys can fly, and at speeds of up to 55 miles per hour. Here in NH I’ve seen them flying up to and then roosting in tree branches 30 and even 40 feet above the ground.

Del Dolemonte on November 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM

He’s right, I’ve got a couple “herds” of them that migrate thru my yard almost everyday. They are dumb though. Took them a long time before they figured they could fly over our new fence. I had to let the dog out to give them a heads up.

MontanaMmmm on November 8, 2013 at 4:12 PM

At this point, Democratic incumbents will agree to ANYTHING to stop the destruction that is coming their way.

PolAgnostic on November 8, 2013 at 2:51 PM

So you think they’d throw Bozo under the bus? That would be interesting.

Ladies and Gentleman, President Joseph Biden.

/Meh – anyone’s better than O

Key West Reader on November 8, 2013 at 4:12 PM

MontanaMmmm on November 8, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Way cool – I saved :)

When you soar with (domestic) turkeys you land like they do.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Fixed it for Del, gladly :)

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Del, I had the fortune to see them in the wild. It’s also amazing how quick they can elude the hunter.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 4:15 PM

When you soar with turkeys you land like they do.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM

” As God is my witness I cold have sworn that they could fly”

Rio Linda Refugee on November 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM

LMAO!!

/Visuals of Less Nester WKRP – think of Obama and Valjar and Mooch-O and Carney in that scene.

Key West Reader on November 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Let us remember that the MSM was 99.8% against GWB and 99.8% fluffing for Obama. Did I say fluffing? I meant super duper fluffing.

jukin3 on November 8, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Actually, does this data prove that ObamaCare’s a bust or that basically everything he touched in 2013 is a bust?

The really interesting thing about that article is how he basically gives the president every possible benefit of the doubt, to the point of absurdity, and still concludes that he’s accomplished nothing for the year.

I mean, he actually says, “then the president learned” about Petraeus resigning and the IRS scandal and the DOJ targeting journalists, as if the presidency was completely uninvolved in forcing Petraeus to resign, using the IRS to target his political enemies, and giving the go-ahead to target journalists. Apparently Obama is a micro-manager, except when the result is bad.

The biggest whoppers of course are the pretense that Benghazi was just a bit of inconveniently bad news, and the laughable assertion that Obama, Mr. “I will not negotiate,” had “bent over backwards to work with the Republicans.” That last is an assertion that Obama makes, rather than Fournier, but Fournier accepts it uncritically as a truth.
The conclusion? Well, a lot of it is just bad luck, you see.

There Goes the Neighborhood on November 8, 2013 at 4:45 PM

/Visuals of Less Nester WKRP – think of Obama and Valjar and Mooch-O and Carney in that scene.

Key West Reader on November 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Les Nessman. No Buckeye Newshawk Award for you!

Del Dolemonte on November 8, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I concur, where is the anger over this poser in our house. Sad and pathetic that we have become a nation of victims and not a nation of the kind of people that fought and died for our freedoms. This is traitorous when people that swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. People, get a spine. Those of you that voted for this travesty, you own it and owe the rest of us an apology. Repent and pray that God will help us considering we have turned our back on Him.

crosshugger on November 8, 2013 at 4:57 PM

This whole “likeability” business about Obama has always stumped me. I’ve been living in an alternate universe for the last 5 years. I’ve never seen this man as likeable in the least. All these Americans saw him as this great guy, very likeable, hip and cool. To me he was always the opposite of that, a master manipulator, racist, socialist, divisive, and cold not cool. Could it be that finally the blinders are coming off and others are seeing him for what he truly is? I like what Mark Steyn said about him, he used to be hip and now we are all seeing we need a hip replacement. Rush has said for years he isn’t cool, he’s cold.

neyney on November 8, 2013 at 5:03 PM

neyney on November 8, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Bingo.

dentarthurdent on November 8, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Obama wanted to gutshoot capitalism and destroy the Republican Party. Well, he’s going to accomplish the former, and destroy the Democratic Party for a generation instead.

Pretty soon they’re going to run out of non-compliant private plans to cancel. Then there will be a lull, and then the deluge. Businesses are going to start getting their plans canceled well before 2015 as insurance companies will have to do just about anything they can to stay afloat through 2014 as it’s obvious nowhere near enough people are going to sign up for their crappy government insurance plans. The economic hardship – and the deaths and suffering – this bozo has made an inevitability next year might make “the government’s gotta do something!” an attractive position, but it isn’t going to be Democrats elected to do it.

deepelemblues on November 8, 2013 at 5:38 PM

…41%

KOOLAID2 on November 8, 2013 at 8:48 PM

When O has one item on the list where he is above 41%, how can his overall approval rating be at 41%? It defies logic and clear thinking. I can only assume half of the pollee’s in the 41% are afraid to be called racists if they don’t approve overall. It is so sad.

roosterman on November 9, 2013 at 12:16 PM