Obama promised on Sept. 26 that people in individual market would keep their plans

posted at 9:21 pm on November 7, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

It was less than a week before Obamacare’s exchanges launched that President Obama gave a speech in Maryland about the benefits of the Affordable Care Act. Using a community college in a friendly county as a backdrop, Obama pushed back against Obamacare critics, charging them with “fear-mongering” and mocking them for “crazy” predictions about the law. In that speech, he repeated the promise that the law’s changes would not affect those who already had health insurance. Here’s the “if you like your plan, you can keep it” segment of the speech, which made specific reference to the individual market— the segment hit with hundreds of thousands of cancellations this month because of Obamacare.

The Affordable Care Act is here to stay. (Applause.)

And so today, I want to speak plainly, clearly, honestly, about what it means for you and for the people you care about.

Now, let’s start with the fact that even before the Affordable Care Act fully takes effect, about 85 percent of Americans already have health insurance -– either through their job, or through Medicare, or through the individual market. So if you’re one of these folks, it’s reasonable that you might worry whether health care reform is going to create changes that are a problem for you — especially when you’re bombarded with all sorts of fear-mongering.

So the first thing you need to know is this: If you already have health care, you don’t have to do anything. In fact, for the past few years, since I signed the Affordable Care Act, a lot of you have been enjoying new benefits and protections that you didn’t before even if you didn’t know they were coming from Obamacare. (Applause.)

In this speech, he claimed to speak “plainly, clearly, honestly,” unlike the fear-mongers.

He promised, explicitly, that those in the individual market are safe as Obamacare’s biggest changes kick in despite the fact that Obamacare was designed to outlaw some of the plans on the individual market. Ridding the insurance market of some of those plans— the ones the president now dismisses as “scams” from “bad apples” no matter how good they were—was the intended consequence of the law. Obama’s administration further ensured this result by writing the “grandfathering” regulations so narrowly as to spare virtually no one.

He made this promise long after it was obvious what would happen to the individual market and shortly after cancellation letters had already begun to land in people’s mailboxes.

If I had to guess at White House spin on this, it’d be that those with cancelled policies are being “transitioned” automatically into more expensive policies, so they don’t have to “do anything” unless your definition of anything includes paying hundreds and thousands of dollars more a year for plans they may not want. If they’d like to avoid paying more for those plans, they have to do plenty— sit for hours or days on HealthCare.gov, on the phone, or in a community center swimming through the sea of subsidy complexities to maybe find out what they’re eligible to maybe use to buy a new policy they may like on a website that may work before they become one of the uninsured or bankrupted the law was supposed to help. And, if they don’t manage to do those things, they’ll surely be eligible for a penalty. Oh, is that a “problem for you?” In other words, it was a lie.

He will give the same speech with the same promise for employer-based plans next October before those start biting the dust under the employer mandate. And, he’ll be lying then, too.

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There was a day when impeachment meant something…

workingclass artist on November 7, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Promised Lied

bazil9 on November 7, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Obama: The Most Dangerous of Morons: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/11/obama_the_most_dangerous_of_morons.html

anotherJoe on November 7, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Please quit showing videos of the liar in chief lying…please.

d1carter on November 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM

If you already have health care, you don’t have to do anything.

He mis-spoke. Meant to say, ” If you already have health care, you don’t have to do anything but lube up!”

socalcon on November 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM

We wuz my-zeld!

d1carter on November 7, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Please quit showing videos of the liar in chief lying…please.

d1carter on November 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM

OK – so no more videos; got it.

EA_MAN on November 7, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Obamacare created an entrenched aristocracy in DC…cause if you work for him you’re subsidized by the peasants.

workingclass artist on November 7, 2013 at 9:32 PM

We know he lied before, during and after the law was passed. He lied to get reelected. He lied this week about the big lie. He lied tonight. So now what?

d1carter on November 7, 2013 at 9:35 PM

He will give the same speech with the same promise for employer-based plans next October

Regardless of his denseness, he won’t go down that road again. They have probably gone as far as entering “you can keep” as prohibited words in the teleprompter database.

hillsoftx on November 7, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Although Kelly is a thousand times better at 9 than Hannity, she just left a Dem strategist off the hook.

Here are two questions.

First, why should a specific group of Americans be targeted to forcibly assist other Americans and in a manner that provide the “winning” Americans with the incentive to get in a position so that they’re no longer taking from other Americans?

Second, when classifying “winners,” why do Obama and Dems think that those who may have the cost of health insurance ultimately underwritten by other Americans don’t actually want to rely on subsidies from other Americans?

BuckeyeSam on November 7, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Obama lied? This is news?

The Rogue Tomato on November 7, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Really, what does anyone expect from a life-long lying, cocaine free-basing choomer who traded homo sex for the powder, and with a mother hating America while doing porn shots for his mentor, an avowed communist, who was also bi-sexual?

Yeah, I guess he’s telling the truth now. Right.

TXUS on November 7, 2013 at 9:42 PM

I’ve never believed a word he said, since 2008. I just can’t decide if he’s a compulsive liar or a pathological liar.

TarheelBen on November 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Obama: The Most Dangerous of Morons: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/11/obama_the_most_dangerous_of_morons.html

anotherJoe on November 7, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Good link. I suggest people read it. Says it all.

MichaelGabriel on November 7, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Next October? We have been informed that our employee based healthcare will no longer exist after next year! OKC Chamber Cancels Health Plans for 1,400 Businesses

fbcmusicman on November 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM

I believe the phrase is, “Oh. SNAP!” (and not the high-tech food-stamp card program either).

Steve Eggleston on November 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM

If you like the insurance you have, keep it.

VibrioCocci on November 7, 2013 at 9:50 PM

The only promise that President 404 will honor: Iran, if you like your nukes, you can keep them, period.

TXUS on November 7, 2013 at 9:56 PM

I’ve never believed a word he said, since 2008. I just can’t decide if he’s a compulsive liar or a pathological liar.

TarheelBen on November 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM

I’m kinda leaning toward compulsive liar and pathological killer.

TXUS on November 7, 2013 at 9:58 PM

BuckeyeSam on November 7, 2013 at 9:37 PM

I watched Megan tonight also and saw that interview. The liberal actually said that giving more people access to health care would drive health care costs down. Neither Megan nor David Webb challenged that statement.

esr1951 on November 7, 2013 at 9:59 PM

I’ve never believed a word he said, since 2008. I just can’t decide if he’s a compulsive liar or a pathological liar.

TarheelBen on November 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM

You have omitted the other possibility, lazy and ignorant jerk. It seems more and more likely that because President Obamacare didn’t really participate in drafting the Affordable Care Act, and has spent much of his time since its passage on the links, he wasn’t prepared at all for this outcome.

Brendon Carr on November 7, 2013 at 10:00 PM

He will give the same speech with the same promise for employer-based plans next October before those start biting the dust under the employer mandate. And, he’ll be lying then, too.

libfreeorgan…will be here in a few minutes…to counter this claim! /
(yes…I know I never use a sarc tag!)

KOOLAID2 on November 7, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Yeah, he showed up at a marginal community college in Prince George’s County and not down the road at the University of MD. He lied his ass off.

Happy Nomad on November 7, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Obama is Joe Isuzu on crack.

VorDaj on November 7, 2013 at 10:03 PM

This isn’t exactly ground-breaking.

Just sayin.

wolly4321 on November 7, 2013 at 10:04 PM

The only promise that President 404 will honor: Iran, if you like your nukes, you can keep them, period.

TXUS on November 7, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Unless you are the United States Air Force or the United States Navy.

Steve Eggleston on November 7, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Cuz I’m a liar, yeah! I like it! It feels good!

Wigglesworth on November 7, 2013 at 10:07 PM

I’ve never believed a word he said, since 2008. I just can’t decide if he’s a compulsive liar or a pathological liar.

TarheelBen on November 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM

1) Compulsive?
2) Pathological?
3) Serial?
4) Chronic?
5) Unrepentant?
6) All of the above?

VorDaj on November 7, 2013 at 10:08 PM

The only thing to do is …………….. make him keep his promise, period!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How about a march on Washington?

SC.Charlie on November 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM

You have omitted the other possibility, lazy and ignorant jerk. It seems more and more likely that because President Obamacare didn’t really participate in drafting the Affordable Care Act, and has spent much of his time since its passage on the links, he wasn’t prepared at all for this outcome.

Brendon Carr on November 7, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Personally, I believe he (and other Democrats) knew this would happen, and that this is in fact part of the plan. The destruction of the individual insurance market, followed soon by the destruction of the employer-based market. They want as many people as possible paying premiums into the Obamacare exchanges (a massive redistribution of wealth scheme) – and will eventually try to transition us to a single payer system.

TarheelBen on November 7, 2013 at 10:15 PM

He warned us when he ran in 2008. He told us to be on guard for conmen, posing as politicians, running okie-dokes on the public.

Dusty on November 7, 2013 at 10:17 PM

I’m kinda leaning toward compulsive liar and pathological killer.

TXUS on November 7, 2013 at 9:58 PM

aka Killary Syndrome

viking01 on November 7, 2013 at 10:20 PM

In this speech, he claimed to speak “plainly, clearly, honestly,” unlike the fear-mongers.

Any time King Barack claims to speak ‘clearly’, he’s lying through his teeth.

But the low-IQ, low-info voter doesn’t know that.

GarandFan on November 7, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Didn’t Henry Rollins have a song that fits this scumbag?

bbinfl on November 7, 2013 at 11:20 PM

I believe our Esteemed Leader said he was burned….urrr. The American people….by the failure of the website?

The failure is in the policy Mr. President

I give up. Shouldn’t someone link Nirvana’s No Apologies?

seesalrun2 on November 7, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Let me be clear blatantly dishonest

talkingpoints on November 7, 2013 at 11:57 PM

If you’re Jewish, you don’t have to do anything. Just show up at the town square at 9 AM.

ardenenoch on November 7, 2013 at 11:58 PM

He wasn’t lying. He was promising what he hoped would happen. You know, unicorns and rainbows, hope and change, “Yes, we can!” and all that. Everything to everybody. That’s the real motto of the Democratic Party.

He just didn’t really know how Obamacare would work and was making it up as he went along. Apparently nobody really knew what was going on when they hired cronies to deliver a cobbled together product with no clear plan.

This thing was a fraud from the start and is still one, but the media and the government won’t admit it and back off. It’s going to get worse before it gets better.

flataffect on November 8, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Evil And Stupid. Hard to beat for pure bad news. Must have be a Chicago thug thing.

pat on November 8, 2013 at 12:30 AM

…he’s lying…so what?

KOOLAID2 on November 8, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Joe Wilson was a modern day Patrick Henry.

Arnold Yabenson on November 8, 2013 at 4:07 AM

He means that insurance companies and eeeeevil corporations are to blame for screwing up yourlife, not the government.

Philly on November 8, 2013 at 7:49 AM

“He will give the same speech with the same promise for employer-based plans next October before those start biting the dust under the employer mandate. And, he’ll be lying then, too.”

And now we know the real reason he delayed the employer mandate for a year. He didn’t want all the policly cancellations his plan mandates to hit at the same time. He wanted to phase it in a little in order to better deal with the inevitable pushback. Which, again, shows this was intentionally planned into the legislation and that his “promises” were a clearly calculated lie.

tommyboy on November 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Obama pushed back against Obamacare critics, charging them with “fear-mongering” and mocking them for “crazy” predictions about the law.

Crazy
#ObamaCountrySongs

ITguy on November 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Employer plans are being cancelled RIGHT NOW. I work at a hospital. We had a terrific plan through BCBS. They announced last month that they wouldn’t be offering that plan anymore. Our deductible went up $500 and out-of-pocket went up $1700. There are far more restrictions.

Perhaps they could have waited til next year. But I have no doubt whatsoever that others will be getting the same bad news next year. My employer simply decided to use the cover of the current rollout to get rid of the plan we loved.

jeanneb on November 8, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Why can’t Ocare be used to get rid of Medicare since this plan was changed after the law was signed. It should fall under the same regulations as any other insurance plan that is being cancelled in the self insured market. We got less for probably higher premiums. They haven’t told us yet what it will cost next year. At least I got to keep my supplement cuz I like it.

Kissmygrits on November 8, 2013 at 9:10 AM

I think he suffered too much nerve and brain damage smoking pot and crack in his neurologically immature teen years. Add to that, everyone giving him a pass because they like him, he has no idea what he is doing and is shocked shocked to be getting blamed for TOTUS’ lies to the American people. He is not curious to know who put lies in his mouth, but he has “been burned,” and does not see any remedy possible except straight ahead to do as Sebelius dictates. Or else he is the dastardly mastermind behind this, who can possibly know? Which is true?

Here with the individual market you have classic progressive lack of concern for the Good Law abiding Americans, the people who were not compelled to buy individual health plans, and yet chose to take care of themselves and their families and do the responsible thing. These are the Americans who deserve a reward. Nope, give THOSE people the shaft for being responsible.

It is much the same with the Self employment tax which gives responsible law abiding resourceful people a 15% additional tax for FICA while letting the cheats and illegals collect cash under the table, mail it home to homecountry so they qualify for their government benefits. The same cheats are in line for the new Medicaid, and the subsidies as long as they can prove they have been here 5 years…how? If they claim their income, they won’t get ObamaCaid, and Obamafood, and Obamaphones? We saw yesterday that the IRS is busy enforcing the tax free status laws on Tea Partiers, with a vengence, even illegally leaking their data, but they do not put anyone in charge of fraud (4 billion in fraud, revealed just yesterday) and phony Earned Income boondoggle credits.

Where is Harry Reid on all this fraud? Living at the Ritz, happy as a clam. Very little can pass his lips to come to the floor of the Senate. He sees no evil. If no democrats are responsible for this, who is the puppet master?

Fleuries on November 8, 2013 at 9:30 AM

I’m beginning to think that Obama is truly delusional. When he gave this speech, I think he really believed what he was saying. He has absolutely no clue what the ACA really does or how it was constructed or it’s real purpose. I think he really believed (until recently) that because he said it wouldn’t affect people who had and liked their existing plans that was enough to just make it so. If he says it, it must be true. That’s really how he thinks. The problem is that he just makes up crap stuff in order to placate the public. He then believes that because he, the almighty Barack, has spoken it will be as he said.

From what I can see from his life, Obama has never faced real adversity without someone coddling him and telling him he’s okay and it isn’t his fault. He was groomed to be supremely confident in himself (arrogant, you might say) and that his “transformative” ability was virtually transcendent.

So in his mind, he didn’t lie. Someone failed to live up to his promise, not him.

BillyWilly on November 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM

During one of Obama’s speeches, he makes mention to ACME insurance. ACME of course is the company that supplies Wile E. Coyote all the devices to catch the Roadrunner. So, given the variety of products that they sell, Obama makes the reference that even a cartoon company (or any other generic company) that sells insurance will be safe. This should dispel any notion of plans being “inferior”.

djaymick on November 8, 2013 at 12:25 PM