Third gun company packs up and leaves New York

posted at 8:01 am on November 6, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Since the passage of the NY SAFE Act, which we’ve discussed here before, it’s not just Empire State gun owners who have been feeling the pressure. Gun manufacturers and distributors have been the focus of far too much state meddling, not to mention the bad PR associated with being labeled as the bad guys while they provide jobs to thousands of the state’s residents. Starting last year, some of these companies began voting with their feet, taking their operations (and jobs) and moving to more friendly climes. As my friend IrishSpy at Public Secrets notes, another company has joined their ranks.

Nearly 10 months since New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D.) signed the SAFE Act, opposition to the law continues to increase, three gun companies have announced plans to leave the state, and a key provision in the law has been quietly delayed.

American Tactical Imports is the third gun company to announce it would be leaving the state and will be investing $2.7 million in its new facility and creating 117 new jobs in South Carolina.

IrishSpy continues:

The delayed provision is the real-time background check for all ammunition purchases; no reason has been given for the hold-up. Maybe they hired the same company that designed healthcare.gov.

Read the rest for some jaw-dropping instances of people being arrested for ticky-tack violations of the state’s new ammunition limits. I swear, the best way to get people to realize how bad progressivism is as a governing philosophy is perhaps to just them have power for a while and sit back while they tick everyone off.

I know that a lot of liberals like to scoff at the idea of the invisible hand of the market, but this is yet another crystal clear example of this phenomenon in action. New York is already bleeding residents, being one of the highest taxed and least free states in the nation. But the SAFE Act has taken a toll on this particular industry, historically one of the foundation employers of the state. If Remington Arms leaves Ilion, New York, that will be pretty much the end of the industry, as well as all of the associated jobs. Less freedom, less money, less employment… less people.

There was a time when New York Republicans wondered if they could ever swing the electoral college powerhouse of NY into the red column. That answer is still clearly no. But the unfortunate consolation prize is that the Democrats may turn it into a toothless political wimp by emptying out all of the voters except for the financial district in the Big Apple.


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You know, all this will be really convenient when the successions start.

Dongemaharu on November 6, 2013 at 8:06 AM

lol, secede

Dongemaharu on November 6, 2013 at 8:07 AM

Good for the gun companies but unfortunately those fleeing New York also head down South and continue to vote liberal.

Panther on November 6, 2013 at 8:08 AM

New York State is still trying to tax itself back to prosperity. Now with a communist as mayor of NYC, things are just going to get worse. But at least you can get a 32 oz Big Gulp there

simkeith on November 6, 2013 at 8:12 AM

It is a good thing that the Washington Wizards changed their name from the Washington Bullets. In the current climate the entire team would be arrested upon crossing the NY state line.

Happy Nomad on November 6, 2013 at 8:12 AM

There was a time when New York Republicans wondered if they could ever swing the electoral college powerhouse of NY into the red column. That answer is still clearly no.

And yet Reagan won the state twice.

Ah, the good old days when CA, NY, NJ, and a host of others were still in play come election time.

Bitter Clinger on November 6, 2013 at 8:14 AM

What’s the gun in the pic? Small caliber, hi-cap mag. I’m lacking that flavor thus far.

American Tactical Imports, you would be welcomed in upstate SC. Pls call Niki – she’d love to hear from you.

Tsar of Earth on November 6, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Come on down to Az :)

cmsinaz on November 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Dongemaharu on November 6, 2013 at 8:06 AM

LOL! I was just thinking the North isn’t going to have the manufacturing base next time.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:16 AM

One of the communist running NYS must have had an epiphany, or something. He/she/it realized if the communists began running backround checks on ammunition purcahsers, not a single round would ever again be sold in NYS.

By “epiphany” I mean said communist got kicked in the face, or some other similiar illuminating moment.

JackM on November 6, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:16 AM

And it is looking more and more like there will be a next time – Not because of a bunch of tea partiers or “militias”, but because of NSA, HS, ATF, DOJ’s Constitutional violations to further the power grabbing northern librul/marxist unslakable thirst for power.

Old Country Boy on November 6, 2013 at 8:27 AM

Let’s say Remington moved to China. I wouldn’t like it, but it would be kinda funny.

JackM on November 6, 2013 at 8:28 AM

And yet Reagan won the state twice.

Ah, the good old days when CA, NY, NJ, and a host of others were still in play come election time.

Bitter Clinger on November 6, 2013 at 8:14 AM

McCain/Feingold Act effectively precludes another Reagan from arising, at least not in the way his campaigns were financed. If the provisions of that campaign financing act had been in force back then, Reagan would never have been able to win the governorship of California much less the Presidency.

The Left continues to cover as many bases as it can. We will never see another Conservative in the White House.

Cleombrotus on November 6, 2013 at 8:28 AM

I know that a lot of liberals like to scoff at the idea of the invisible hand of the market, but this is yet another crystal clear example of this phenomenon in action.

I’m not sure if this case involves the “invisible hand.”

visions on November 6, 2013 at 8:29 AM

I’ve always been a believer that all progressive laws and regs be tried out in one or two liberal enclaves. For instance, let California enact their global warming laws and make them live by them. No coal fired sources of electricity. They can run their air conditioning with wind and solar power. If it proves successful, efficient, and economical, then the rest of us can try it.

New York will be interesting to watch. With a draconian left wing mayor, it should prove very interesting when the over taxed wealthy start moving to Florida and other manufacturing companies leave for friendlier climes.

iamsaved on November 6, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Dongemaharu on November 6, 2013 at 8:06 AM

LOL! I was just thinking the North isn’t going to have the manufacturing base next time.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:16 AM

See! ‘The South‘ did win. (It just took a little while.)

Tsar of Earth on November 6, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Is there an economy left in the southern tier or upstate?

MTF on November 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

But the unfortunate consolation prize is that the Democrats may turn it into a toothless political wimp by emptying out all of the voters except for the financial district in the Big Apple.

Give Bill Di Blasio a year, and he’ll clear all the Financial District jobs out of New York, too…

But seriesly, I would consider retiring to upstate New York, where land is cheap and there is good access to urban amenities, but I would never move somewhere that was going to take away my Second Amendment rights. I guess I’ll just have to take all my money down South. Sorry New York.

Haiku Guy on November 6, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Fingers crossed that Beretta does the same thing in MD.

Gatsu on November 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Good for the gun companies but unfortunately those fleeing New York also head down South and continue to vote liberal.

Panther on November 6, 2013 at 8:08 AM

It’s been a big problem in NC. A lot of progs moved away from their failed libtard utopias and moved south to get away from themselves. They unfortunately have never heard of Einstein’s definition of insanity and many have the gosh darned nerve to come down here and try and tell us “we aren’t doing it right” and that if we would just listen to them they could “fix it”.

HotAirian on November 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM

The Financial District empties out after a few years of de Blasio’s Administration. That will make Manhattan uninhabitable. There is no immutable rule that says financial transactions must be done in New York City, any more than there is a rule that manufacturing must be done there.

Then New York has the electoral power of Missouri or maybe Minnesota.

No Truce With Kings on November 6, 2013 at 8:36 AM

iamsaved on November 6, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Side by side comparisons are not allowed in the new Utopia.

Cleombrotus on November 6, 2013 at 8:39 AM

HotAirian on November 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM

I’ve watched Maine and New Hampshire change for this exact reason over the last 25 years.

Cleombrotus on November 6, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Whatever the gun manufacturers do they shouldn’t consider Virginia a gun friendly state for long. The liberal imports are crapping in the nests they brought with them from the northeast and have turned the state blue.

iamsaved on November 6, 2013 at 8:41 AM

It’s been a big problem in NC. A lot of progs moved away from their failed libtard utopias and moved south to get away from themselves. They unfortunately have never heard of Einstein’s definition of insanity and many have the gosh darned nerve to come down here and try and tell us “we aren’t doing it right” and that if we would just listen to them they could “fix it”.

HotAirian on November 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM

I’m from NC as well. You can’t swing a dead cat around here without hitting a “displaced” New Yorker.

Panther on November 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

We need more gun manufacturers here in the South ..

You know …

Just in case … :D

HondaV65 on November 6, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Whatever the gun manufacturers do they shouldn’t consider Virginia a gun friendly state for long. The liberal imports are crapping in the nests they brought with them from the northeast and have turned the state blue.

iamsaved on November 6, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Last night as it looked certain McAuliffe was going to win, my wife asked when the next gun show was. She’s convinced things will get tight and unfriendly for gunowners in VA. She said we need more guns.

I must agree. Oh…and lots of ammo.

I told her to buy privately. Don’t do the background check thing.

freedomfirst on November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Remington, Kahr/Auto-Ordnance/IMI, ATI… the hits keep on coming to NY.

It is well deserved for voting authoritarian Progressives into office again and again.

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

And it is looking more and more like there will be a next time – Not because of a bunch of tea partiers or “militias”,

Keep telling yourself that, OCB…. just like the first time had nothing to do with the tea party’s abolitionist predecessors: People willing to fight, die, and kill for freedom.

Plantation then, collective now: it’s still the same fight against Copperhead slavemasters and their Whig enablers.

SDN on November 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Cool! A win for the anti-gun lobby. I knew if a state enacted enough laws they could drive out those evil basstard manufactures of death. Next we need more gun laws to drive out all the people that think having a gun is cool or will protect them. We all know that the only protection you will even need are the fine men and woman in blue. If this continues pretty soon NY will be a place where people can live in complete safety and without fear of being brutally murdered by some Zimmerman wannabe. Ho-ray for NY!

Dr. Frank Enstine on November 6, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:16 AM

And it is looking more and more like there will be a next time – Not because of a bunch of tea partiers or “militias”, but because of NSA, HS, ATF, DOJ’s Constitutional violations to further the power grabbing northern librul/marxist unslakable thirst for power.

Old Country Boy on November 6, 2013 at 8:27 AM

About time for this once again, do you think? sent to a different ruler but sent all the same. I’m fairly sure the list of grievances would be larger and more egregious than the first time and would sound hauntingly familiar.

“When in the course of human events”

Oldnuke on November 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM

In case you haven’t heard.

EPA Shutting Down Last-standing U.S. Primary Lead Smelter

“The second largest use of lead in the U.S., after storage batteries, is for ammunition. With ammunition already difficult to obtain and prices of ammo already skyrocketing, the Doe Run closure can only make matters worse.”

…drip… drip… drip…

Akzed on November 6, 2013 at 9:12 AM

But the unfortunate consolation prize is that the Democrats may turn it into a toothless political wimp by emptying out all of the voters except for the financial district in the Big Apple.

Don’t worry. De Blasio will take care of them too.

Nomennovum on November 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

New York will be interesting to watch. With a draconian left wing mayor, it should prove very interesting when the over taxed wealthy start moving to Florida and other manufacturing companies leave for friendlier climes.

iamsaved on November 6, 2013 at 8:29 AM

New York City (less so the state) went through a similar round of hubris back in the late 1960s and early 70s under John Lindsay and Abe Beame. The attitude then was “We’re so wonderful and have so many things to offer the executives of major companies, that none of them will ever want to leave Fun City.” The attitude was the CEOs could afford to live in New York no matter how high the corporate or personal taxes got, so who would want to live more than 20 minutes from the Times Square theaters or Lincoln Center?

It took near-bankruptcy to change that mindset for at least a while, because even when big companies like American Airlines, Mobil or J.C. Penney hightailed it elsewhere, the liberals just brushed it off as evil, greedy companies that didn’t deserve to be in New York in the first place … until the city ran out of money and the saner Democrats like Felix Rohatyn convinced them they couldn’t keep chasing off their tax base to New Jersey, Virginia or Texas and survive.

The situation now at the state level is the same as it was in the 70s — Cuomo and his backers think the gun companies are evil, so who cares if they leave the state? Meanwhile, de Blasio served under Dinkins and is too young and too ideological to either remember or care what the class warfare schtick almost did to New York 40 years ago. I suspect he’s going to find out in the next four years, though it will be interesting to see if New Yorkers, some of whom are even too young to remember the Dinkins era — are willing to submit to a return to that quality-of-life period.

jon1979 on November 6, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Dr. Frank Enstine on November 6, 2013 at 8:58 AM

That’s right, after all, why do they NEEEEEEED ten rounds to shoot a DEEEEEEERRR?

Cleombrotus on November 6, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Dr. Frank Enstine on November 6, 2013 at 8:58 AM

huh?

Based on your response to a post of mine yesterday, I expected a sarc tag at the end of the post above. Now I know more about you.

Yesterday, I was lamenting my inaction. I continue to grow more frustrated. What is the tipping point for me and like-minded Americans?

I don’t want to find out. Avoiding that fate will take a reversal of fortune. I think things will improve. If it doesn’t, you might expect some guys beyond their prime (like me) to not be inactive.

freedomfirst on November 6, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Come to Texas!

neyney on November 6, 2013 at 9:22 AM

lol, secede

Dongemaharu on November 6, 2013 at 8:07 AM

As a New Yorker, I can honestly say it cannot happen fast enough.

Maddie on November 6, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Less freedom, less money, less employment… less people.

Isn’t it “fewer people” in this context rather than “less people”?

EA_MAN on November 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM

basstard

Dr. Frank Enstine on November 6, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Is that a really idiotic fish? Or that guy who sings opera really low and votes for Obama?

GWB on November 6, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Is there an economy left in the southern tier or upstate?

MTF on November 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Nope.

magicbeans on November 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

What’s the gun in the pic? Small caliber, hi-cap mag. I’m lacking that flavor thus far.

American Tactical Imports, you would be welcomed in upstate SC. Pls call Niki – she’d love to hear from you.

Tsar of Earth on November 6, 2013 at 8:14 AM

It’s a GSG-522 – a .22 caliber copy of the HK MP5 series, which is designed around the 9mm. American Tactical imports the guns from Germany – this particular carbine runs around $400 and has tons of accessories available for it. Right now, finding affordable .22LR ammo to feed this puppy is the problem.

Hill60 on November 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Based on your response to a post of mine yesterday, I expected a sarc tag at the end of the post above.

freedomfirst on November 6, 2013 at 9:17 AM

You didn’t need a sarc tag with that, did you? Maybe if that was UE or LFoD or partisan, you might read it straight-up. But, I almost had to wipe off my screen, because the sarcasm just oozed from that one.

GWB on November 6, 2013 at 9:35 AM

And it is looking more and more like there will be a next time – Not because of a bunch of tea partiers or “militias”, but because of NSA, HS, ATF, DOJ’s Constitutional violations to further the power grabbing northern librul/marxist unslakable thirst for power.

Old Country Boy on November 6, 2013 at 8:27 AM

From your lips to God’s ears!

Maddie on November 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM

And it is looking more and more like there will be a next time…

Old Country Boy on November 6, 2013 at 8:27 AM

From your lips to God’s ears!

Maddie on November 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM

God Bless America!

(See, that wasn’t so hard.)

Tsar of Earth on November 6, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Meanwhile, de Blasio served under Dinkins and is too young and too ideological to either remember or care what the class warfare schtick almost did to New York 40 years ago. I suspect he’s going to find out in the next four years, though it will be interesting to see if New Yorkers, some of whom are even too young to remember the Dinkins era — are willing to submit to a return to that quality-of-life period.

jon1979 on November 6, 2013 at 9:15 AM

De Blasio, who hung with the Sandinistas when they ran Nicaragua, thinks class warfare is the thing. He also thinks that it failed the last time because (1) enough money wasn’t thrown at it, (2) government’s heavy hand wasn’t heavy enough, and (3) Dinkins was a wimp.

He intends to correct all three “errors” by taxing everyone to death, running NYC like Venezuela, and playing Hugo Chavez’.

It isn’t likely to work, but he’ll have lots of fun making NYC a living hell for everybody he defines as “the enemy”. Which is just about anybody not wearing a Che’! t-shirt.

And keep in mind that he considers being Mayor just a stepping stone to bigger things. Governor, Senator, maybe even POTUS.

Hey, it worked for Bill and The One, didn’t it?

clear ether

eon

eon on November 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM

TacArms to State: Drop Dead

Akzed on November 6, 2013 at 9:57 AM

eon on November 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM

It will be interesting to see how it plays out, because liberals from Lindsay to Dinkins explained rising taxes and soaring crime rates simply as the byproducts of a changing society. They told the people there was really nothing anyone on God’s green Earth could do to solve the problem — all you could do was manage the decline by paying people off with more social welfare programs funded by higher taxes on the middle class and the rich.

Giuliani and even ueber-nanny Bloomberg have blown that excuse out of the water over the past two decades. If de Blasio goes Hugo Chavez on New York, and the city starts reverting to the early 90s, all those hipsters and others who bought into gentrifying neighborhoods and who consider themselves cutting-edge young progressives are going to be the first ones hit by the quality of life declines. Then we’ll see if they’re more committed to their political ideology or their own personal lifestyles and net worth.

jon1979 on November 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM

You didn’t need a sarc tag with that, did you? Maybe if that was UE or LFoD or partisan, you might read it straight-up. But, I almost had to wipe off my screen, because the sarcasm just oozed from that one.

GWB on November 6, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Thanks, GWB.
Hope I didn’t offend, Frankie!

freedomfirst on November 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM

There was a time when New York Republicans wondered if they could ever swing the electoral college powerhouse of NY into the red column. That answer is still clearly no.

Like California and Detroit, the people who won’t leave are the ones who are addicted to all the free stuff Democrats sold them in exchange for their votes. They’ve passed the tipping point.

Socratease on November 6, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Last night as it looked certain McAuliffe was going to win, my wife asked when the next gun show was. She’s convinced things will get tight and unfriendly for gunowners in VA. She said we need more guns.
I must agree. Oh…and lots of ammo.
freedomfirst on November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

My wife did the same thing after the 2012 elections and the Dems started all their gun ban talk – especially here in Colorado.
She wanted at least one of everything the Dems want to ban.
“Twist my arm and make me go gun shopping honey….”

dentarthurdent on November 6, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Read the rest for some jaw-dropping instances of people being arrested for ticky-tack violations of the state’s new ammunition limits.

The police are now more like Hessians than neighbors in the community. They prove time and again that there is no law they will not enforce.

bbhack on November 6, 2013 at 11:38 AM

The police are now more like Hessians than neighbors in the community. They prove time and again that there is no law they will not enforce.

bbhack on November 6, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Umm…
immigration
voter fraud
voter intimidation
any law broken by Democrats in office

They are also getting more proficient at enforcing laws that don’t exist.

AesopFan on November 6, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Umm…
immigration
voter fraud
voter intimidation
any law broken by Democrats in office

They are also getting more proficient at enforcing laws that don’t exist.

AesopFan on November 6, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Those examples are in the prosecutor’s arena, not police, but point taken.

bbhack on November 6, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Last night as it looked certain McAuliffe was going to win, my wife asked when the next gun show was. She’s convinced things will get tight and unfriendly for gunowners in VA. She said we need more guns.
I must agree. Oh…and lots of ammo.

freedomfirst on November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

You chose well.

slickwillie2001 on November 6, 2013 at 12:34 PM

As strange as it might sound, Wall Street could move, too. It’s only data and the data doesn’t care about its address.

Now, there’s a Texas-size idea for you.

IndieDogg on November 6, 2013 at 12:39 PM

The situation now at the state level is the same as it was in the 70s — Cuomo and his backers think the gun companies are evil, so who cares if they leave the state? Meanwhile, de Blasio served under Dinkins and is too young and too ideological to either remember or care what the class warfare schtick almost did to New York 40 years ago. I suspect he’s going to find out in the next four years, though it will be interesting to see if New Yorkers, some of whom are even too young to remember the Dinkins era — are willing to submit to a return to that quality-of-life period.

jon1979 on November 6, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Yest another reason i’m glad the majority of my family is out of that fever swap called The 5 Boroughs.

For those old enough to remember the 1970′s during the Ford/Carter Years AND living in NYC at the time; I will repeat my well-worn mantra…I’ll be damned if i’ll willing go through that sh!t again

BlaxPac on November 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM

You chose well.

slickwillie2001 on November 6, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Yep. I agree.

freedomfirst on November 6, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Scratch a Progressive and you find a Fascist.

schmuck281 on November 7, 2013 at 12:40 AM